Re: Lyx on Chromebook - Yes it works!

2021-05-03 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 11:28:04AM -0400, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> > lean and mean ? I did not have high expectation of getting it working
> > well on a Chromebook, but I was wrong!
> >
> It would be great to set up a web page on the wiki with this
> information, and more. Step by step instructions if possible. How does
> one access the VM?

It would be also nice if anyone running recent-enough Android could test
whether "Debian noroot" app allows flawless install of LyX (basically
run "apt-get install lyx" as a root from its terminal).

Last time I tried similar thing with UserLand on older Android tablet
the app permission were not enough to finish full install.

Pavel
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Re: Lyx on Chromebook - Yes it works!

2021-04-16 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 4/16/21 9:41 AM, Dr Paul Verschueren wrote:
>
> I assumed that the relative silence indicated I’m on my own, so I
> thought I would make an initial investigation this lunchtime.
>
> Great news - it turns out to be relatively trivial to get Lyx working
> under Chrome OS, and there is no need to compile a native app.
>
>  
>
> Chrome OS sets up a small VM with a copy of Debian 10, and Lyx 2.3.2
> installs cleanly via apt(?) - even for a Windows die-hard like myself
> with no previous Linux exposure.
>
> Performance does not seem an issue – there is a slight slow-down
> noticeable compiling a complex 40 page math paper, but it is perfectly
> acceptable (to me at least).
>
> I now have several Word docs open, about 20 Chrome browser tabs, some
> pdfs, Debian and Lyx all running happily in 4Gb RAM and with a 32Gb
> disk – amazing!
>
>  
>
> The more challenging steps now will be replicating my custom Lyx
> environment under Linux (all those weird path names!), and gaining
> access to all my OneDrive disks (I’ve found a Linux utility called
> rclone, but it doesn’t seem to like my multiple OneDrive setup). Again
> any previous experience/hints/tips would be most welcome.
>
>  
>
> My congratulations to all the team who have obviously kept the product
> lean and mean – I did not have high expectation of getting it working
> well on a Chromebook, but I was wrong!
>
It would be great to set up a web page on the wiki with this
information, and more. Step by step instructions if possible. How does
one access the VM?

I've created a page here: https://wiki.lyx.org/Chrome/Chrome. You can
use the password "LyX" to edit it. Or I can do it later. Once we have
it, I will create a link from the Download page, crediting you with this
discovery, and send an announcement to our various lists.

It is pretty amazing what little tiny computers will do these days. I
had my wife using a Raspberry Pi until we learned that Zoom won't run on it.

Riki


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Re: Lyx on Chromebook - Yes it works!

2021-04-16 Thread Doug Martin
Paul,

That is really great to see, close to home.  My wife uses Chromebook, and I
have often been
frustrated as a Windows user not being able to help her with some things.
Also, I have the
impression that more and more students use the affordable Chromebook, and
many of them
could make good use of LYX.

Doug

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 7:42 AM Dr Paul Verschueren 
wrote:

> I assumed that the relative silence indicated I’m on my own, so I thought
> I would make an initial investigation this lunchtime.
>
> Great news - it turns out to be relatively trivial to get Lyx working
> under Chrome OS, and there is no need to compile a native app.
>
>
>
> Chrome OS sets up a small VM with a copy of Debian 10, and Lyx 2.3.2
> installs cleanly via apt(?) - even for a Windows die-hard like myself with
> no previous Linux exposure.
>
> Performance does not seem an issue – there is a slight slow-down
> noticeable compiling a complex 40 page math paper, but it is perfectly
> acceptable (to me at least).
>
> I now have several Word docs open, about 20 Chrome browser tabs, some
> pdfs, Debian and Lyx all running happily in 4Gb RAM and with a 32Gb disk –
> amazing!
>
>
>
> The more challenging steps now will be replicating my custom Lyx
> environment under Linux (all those weird path names!), and gaining access
> to all my OneDrive disks (I’ve found a Linux utility called rclone, but it
> doesn’t seem to like my multiple OneDrive setup). Again any previous
> experience/hints/tips would be most welcome.
>
>
>
> My congratulations to all the team who have obviously kept the product
> lean and mean – I did not have high expectation of getting it working well
> on a Chromebook, but I was wrong!
>
> Best wishes
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> *From:* Richard Kimberly Heck 
> *Sent:* 15 April 2021 22:26
> *To:* Dr Paul Verschueren ; LyX Users <
> lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Lyx on Chromebook
>
>
>
> On 4/15/21 1:01 PM, Dr Paul Verschueren wrote:
>
> I’m just evaluating a friend’s Chromebook – and I’m very impressed. It
> seems to do everything I want, at a fraction of the weight and cost of my
> old dying laptop … with one exception – Lyx!
>
> This link: https://www.bestchromebookapps.com/lyx-for-chromebook/
> promises Lyx is available as an app. This is presumably just nonsense?
>
> Yes, garbage. there's no LyX app.
>
> Qt does exist for Android, so it might be possible to compile LyX for
> Android. It would probably take some adjustments here and there. There's
> some info here:
>
>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/35231168/how-to-build-an-executable-for-android-shell/35275134#35275134
>
> http://nickdesaulniers.github.io/blog/2016/07/01/android-cli/
>
> but it may be a bit out of date.
>
> Riki
>
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RE: Lyx on Chromebook - Yes it works!

2021-04-16 Thread Dr Paul Verschueren
I assumed that the relative silence indicated I'm on my own, so I thought I 
would make an initial investigation this lunchtime.
Great news - it turns out to be relatively trivial to get Lyx working under 
Chrome OS, and there is no need to compile a native app.

Chrome OS sets up a small VM with a copy of Debian 10, and Lyx 2.3.2 installs 
cleanly via apt(?) - even for a Windows die-hard like myself with no previous 
Linux exposure.
Performance does not seem an issue - there is a slight slow-down noticeable 
compiling a complex 40 page math paper, but it is perfectly acceptable (to me 
at least).
I now have several Word docs open, about 20 Chrome browser tabs, some pdfs, 
Debian and Lyx all running happily in 4Gb RAM and with a 32Gb disk - amazing!

The more challenging steps now will be replicating my custom Lyx environment 
under Linux (all those weird path names!), and gaining access to all my 
OneDrive disks (I've found a Linux utility called rclone, but it doesn't seem 
to like my multiple OneDrive setup). Again any previous experience/hints/tips 
would be most welcome.

My congratulations to all the team who have obviously kept the product lean and 
mean - I did not have high expectation of getting it working well on a 
Chromebook, but I was wrong!
Best wishes
Paul

From: Richard Kimberly Heck 
Sent: 15 April 2021 22:26
To: Dr Paul Verschueren ; LyX Users 

Subject: Re: Lyx on Chromebook

On 4/15/21 1:01 PM, Dr Paul Verschueren wrote:
I'm just evaluating a friend's Chromebook - and I'm very impressed. It seems to 
do everything I want, at a fraction of the weight and cost of my old dying 
laptop ... with one exception - Lyx!
This link: https://www.bestchromebookapps.com/lyx-for-chromebook/  promises Lyx 
is available as an app. This is presumably just nonsense?

Yes, garbage. there's no LyX app.

Qt does exist for Android, so it might be possible to compile LyX for Android. 
It would probably take some adjustments here and there. There's some info here:


https://stackoverflow.com/questions/35231168/how-to-build-an-executable-for-android-shell/35275134#35275134

http://nickdesaulniers.github.io/blog/2016/07/01/android-cli/

but it may be a bit out of date.

Riki

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