Re: LyX key bindings

[mike]

On 15/03/2018 14:12, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

2018-03-15 13:43 GMT+01:00 mike:

I have to do something slightly different namely

    Tools > Preferences > Editing > Shortcuts > Cursor, Mouse and
Editing Functions > ipa-insert > Modify

I'd rather do:

* Tools > Preferences > Editing > Shortcuts > New ...

* Enter "command-alternatives in-ipa ; ipa-insert" (without the 
quotes) to Function


* Move the Cursor to the shortcut Area (the grey field)

* Perform the actual keyboard shortcut (e.g., Alt+I)

* Apply and Save

The bind file is shown as cua in which there is no binding for
ipa-insert.  (Someone please tell me if I'm wrong)

Right.

so after I click on Modify I have to select New and then enter the
binding.  So I enter C-x i and ipa-insert and it does indeed
"stick" in the sense I described before.

Ctrl-X is not a good idea. This is the default binding for "cut" (and 
Alt-X ist the default binding for the minibuffer).


I can close LyX and restart it and look at cua.bind and it's still
there.  (I do that in Emacs in case you're wondering.  The path on
my machine is Program Files (x86) > LyX 2.2 > Resources > bind >
cua.bind.)

However cua.bind cannot possibly be the default bind file because
if I am in LyX and type C-x it says "command disabled" so I can't
even do "cut".  I think I can figure out how to load the cua
bindings but my concern is that it will reset some of the default
bindings.  I also use LyX for math and logic and I don't want to
lose those shortcuts.

The user-defined shortcuts are not saved in cua.bind, but in 
user.bind, which is in your personal LyX directory, in the bind subfolder.


You can even directly copy the following to this file (and restart LyX):

\bind "M-I" "command-alternatives in-ipa ; ipa-insert"

HTH
Jürgen

Please compare to
https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/KeyboardShortcuts#StandardKeybindings

where it says "You can use the script LyxBindings
 to generate your own
documentats describing for your configuration of keyboard
shortcuts. Some users experience the complete loss of every
bindings after changes. In that case, a .bind file needs to be
reselected in the menu
(Tools/Preferences/Editing/Shortcuts/Browse). /The cua.bind file
is the basic one./"

Any further help would be greatly appreciated.

Best

Mike

-- 


I *AM* a unique and special snowflake


Wow!  Jurgen comes to the rescue once again.  Jurgen you are indeed a 
genius.  Everything now works flawlessly.  With your permission Jurgen I 
will write this all up and put it on the wiki unless you don't want me 
to.  I will give you full credit for everything in the first line.


Jurgen I can't thank you enough.  I can die happy now.  It's time for me 
to get to work and use this wonderful creation of yours.


Best

Mike

--
I *AM* a unique and special snowflake

Re: LyX key bindings

[mike]

On 15/03/2018 14:56, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 03/15/2018 10:50 AM, mike wrote:

On 15/03/2018 14:39, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2018-03-15 15:36 GMT+01:00 mike >:


I don't seem to have a personal bind subfolder or a personal LyX
directory either.


You do. Have a look at Tools > About LyX. It's the "User Directory" 
listed in that dialog.


Jürgen


Mike

-- 
I *AM* a unique and special snowflake



Ok I am sure I'm just being thick and missing something but I can't 
see Tools > About Lyx and Help > About Lyx has nothing like User 
Directory.  What am I missing please?


Aren't you getting frustrated yet?  You must be a very patient man.

Best

Mike

--
I *AM* a unique and special snowflake

He is. :-)

Click Help > About LyX and make sure you are on the first tab (if 
there are tabs -- I don't recall your saying which version of LyX you 
are using). User directory should be listed there.


Paul



2.2.3

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Re: LyX key bindings

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2018-03-15 15:50 GMT+01:00 mike :

> Ok I am sure I'm just being thick and missing something but I can't see
> Tools > About Lyx and Help > About Lyx has nothing like User Directory.
> What am I missing please?
>
Help > About LyX, sorry. And then, under "Version", there is a bunch of
information, the "User Directory" amonst it.

In my case, it looks like this:

LyX Version 2.2.4dev

(Monday, May 15, 2017)

Built from git commit hash 4db40b11

Library directory: ~/lyx/lyx-22/lib/

User directory: ~/.lyx-22/

Qt Version (run-time): 5.10.0

Qt Version (compile-time): 5.9.1


User directory is ~/.lyx-22/ in that case.

Aren't you getting frustrated yet?
>
No.


> You must be a very patient man.
>
I wish I was more patient sometimes.

Jürgen


> Best
>
> Mike
>
> --
> I *AM* a unique and special snowflake
>
>

Re: LyX key bindings

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 03/15/2018 10:50 AM, mike wrote:

On 15/03/2018 14:39, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2018-03-15 15:36 GMT+01:00 mike >:


I don't seem to have a personal bind subfolder or a personal LyX
directory either.


You do. Have a look at Tools > About LyX. It's the "User Directory" 
listed in that dialog.


Jürgen


Mike

-- 
I *AM* a unique and special snowflake



Ok I am sure I'm just being thick and missing something but I can't 
see Tools > About Lyx and Help > About Lyx has nothing like User 
Directory.  What am I missing please?


Aren't you getting frustrated yet?  You must be a very patient man.

Best

Mike

--
I *AM* a unique and special snowflake

He is. :-)

Click Help > About LyX and make sure you are on the first tab (if there 
are tabs -- I don't recall your saying which version of LyX you are 
using). User directory should be listed there.


Paul

Re: LyX key bindings

[mike]

On 15/03/2018 14:50, mike wrote:

On 15/03/2018 14:39, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2018-03-15 15:36 GMT+01:00 mike >:


I don't seem to have a personal bind subfolder or a personal LyX
directory either.


You do. Have a look at Tools > About LyX. It's the "User Directory" 
listed in that dialog.


Jürgen


Mike

-- 
I *AM* a unique and special snowflake



Ok I am sure I'm just being thick and missing something but I can't 
see Tools > About Lyx and Help > About Lyx has nothing like User 
Directory.  What am I missing please?


Aren't you getting frustrated yet?  You must be a very patient man.

Best

Mike

--
I *AM* a unique and special snowflake


I am definitely going to write all this up on the wiki something like 
"Ultimate IPA from scratch"


--
I *AM* a unique and special snowflake

Re: LyX key bindings

[mike]

On 15/03/2018 14:39, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2018-03-15 15:36 GMT+01:00 mike >:


I don't seem to have a personal bind subfolder or a personal LyX
directory either.


You do. Have a look at Tools > About LyX. It's the "User Directory" 
listed in that dialog.


Jürgen


Mike

-- 
I *AM* a unique and special snowflake



Ok I am sure I'm just being thick and missing something but I can't see 
Tools > About Lyx and Help > About Lyx has nothing like User Directory.  
What am I missing please?


Aren't you getting frustrated yet?  You must be a very patient man.

Best

Mike

--
I *AM* a unique and special snowflake

Re: LyX key bindings

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2018-03-15 15:36 GMT+01:00 mike :

> I don't seem to have a personal bind subfolder or a personal LyX directory
> either.
>

You do. Have a look at Tools > About LyX. It's the "User Directory" listed
in that dialog.

Jürgen


>
> Mike
>
> --
> I *AM* a unique and special snowflake
>
>

Re: LyX key bindings

[mike]

On 15/03/2018 14:16, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 03/15/2018 09:25 AM, mike wrote:


So to summarize:

1.

Is cua.bind really the default?

2.

Why does C-x give "command disabled"?

3.

Will loading cua.bind blow away any pre-existing default LyX
shortcuts?

--
I *AM* a unique and special snowflake

1. Yes.
2. It shows that if you have no text selected (so that there is 
nothing to cut). If you select text and then hit Ctrl+x, it should cut 
the text.
3. I don't think you'll lose any commonly used shortcuts. I don't know 
if there are any obscure shortcuts defined in one bind file but not 
another. That said, if LyX is currently showing cua as the bind file, 
you won't lose any shortcuts you are currently using because you won't 
actually be changing anything.


Paul


Thanks very much for your answers

Best

Mike

--
I *AM* a unique and special snowflake

Re: LyX key bindings

[mike]

On 15/03/2018 14:12, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

2018-03-15 13:43 GMT+01:00 mike:

I have to do something slightly different namely

    Tools > Preferences > Editing > Shortcuts > Cursor, Mouse and
Editing Functions > ipa-insert > Modify

I'd rather do:

* Tools > Preferences > Editing > Shortcuts > New ...

* Enter "command-alternatives in-ipa ; ipa-insert" (without the 
quotes) to Function


* Move the Cursor to the shortcut Area (the grey field)

* Perform the actual keyboard shortcut (e.g., Alt+I)

* Apply and Save

The bind file is shown as cua in which there is no binding for
ipa-insert.  (Someone please tell me if I'm wrong)

Right.

so after I click on Modify I have to select New and then enter the
binding.  So I enter C-x i and ipa-insert and it does indeed
"stick" in the sense I described before.

Ctrl-X is not a good idea. This is the default binding for "cut" (and 
Alt-X ist the default binding for the minibuffer).


I can close LyX and restart it and look at cua.bind and it's still
there.  (I do that in Emacs in case you're wondering.  The path on
my machine is Program Files (x86) > LyX 2.2 > Resources > bind >
cua.bind.)

However cua.bind cannot possibly be the default bind file because
if I am in LyX and type C-x it says "command disabled" so I can't
even do "cut".  I think I can figure out how to load the cua
bindings but my concern is that it will reset some of the default
bindings.  I also use LyX for math and logic and I don't want to
lose those shortcuts.

The user-defined shortcuts are not saved in cua.bind, but in 
user.bind, which is in your personal LyX directory, in the bind subfolder.


You can even directly copy the following to this file (and restart LyX):

\bind "M-I" "command-alternatives in-ipa ; ipa-insert"

HTH
Jürgen



Hi Jurgen

I don't seem to have a personal bind subfolder or a personal LyX 
directory either.  (I used Search in the Start Menu and looked in the 
obvious places using Emacs.)  Do I need to create it myself and copy 
cua.bind to it and make the alterations you suggest?


Mike

--
I *AM* a unique and special snowflake

Re: LyX key bindings

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 03/15/2018 09:25 AM, mike wrote:


So to summarize:

1.

Is cua.bind really the default?

2.

Why does C-x give "command disabled"?

3.

Will loading cua.bind blow away any pre-existing default LyX
shortcuts?

--
I *AM* a unique and special snowflake

1. Yes.
2. It shows that if you have no text selected (so that there is nothing 
to cut). If you select text and then hit Ctrl+x, it should cut the text.
3. I don't think you'll lose any commonly used shortcuts. I don't know 
if there are any obscure shortcuts defined in one bind file but not 
another. That said, if LyX is currently showing cua as the bind file, 
you won't lose any shortcuts you are currently using because you won't 
actually be changing anything.


Paul

Re: LyX key bindings

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2018-03-15 15:11 GMT+01:00 mike :

> But how can I have messed up when cua.bind only shows C-x and no other C-x
> plus something bindings?
>
Open user.bind and delete this binding (or delete it from the prefs dialog).

Jürgen

Re: LyX key bindings

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2018-03-15 13:43 GMT+01:00 mike:

> I have to do something slightly different namely
>
> Tools > Preferences > Editing > Shortcuts > Cursor, Mouse and Editing
> Functions > ipa-insert > Modify
>
I'd rather do:

* Tools > Preferences > Editing > Shortcuts > New ...

* Enter "command-alternatives in-ipa ; ipa-insert" (without the quotes) to
Function

* Move the Cursor to the shortcut Area (the grey field)

* Perform the actual keyboard shortcut (e.g., Alt+I)

* Apply and Save


> The bind file is shown as cua in which there is no binding for
> ipa-insert.  (Someone please tell me if I'm wrong)
>
Right.

> so after I click on Modify I have to select New and then enter the
> binding.  So I enter C-x i and ipa-insert and it does indeed "stick" in the
> sense I described before.
>
Ctrl-X is not a good idea. This is the default binding for "cut" (and Alt-X
ist the default binding for the minibuffer).

> I can close LyX and restart it and look at cua.bind and it's still there.
> (I do that in Emacs in case you're wondering.  The path on my machine is
> Program Files (x86) > LyX 2.2 > Resources > bind > cua.bind.)
>
> However cua.bind cannot possibly be the default bind file because if I am
> in LyX and type C-x it says "command disabled" so I can't even do "cut".  I
> think I can figure out how to load the cua bindings but my concern is that
> it will reset some of the default bindings.  I also use LyX for math and
> logic and I don't want to lose those shortcuts.
>
The user-defined shortcuts are not saved in cua.bind, but in user.bind,
which is in your personal LyX directory, in the bind subfolder.

You can even directly copy the following to this file (and restart LyX):

\bind "M-I" "command-alternatives in-ipa ; ipa-insert"

HTH
Jürgen

> Please compare to https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/KeyboardShortcuts#
> StandardKeybindings where it says "You can use the script LyxBindings
>  to generate your own documentats
> describing for your configuration of keyboard shortcuts. Some users
> experience the complete loss of every bindings after changes. In that case,
> a .bind file needs to be reselected in the menu 
> (Tools/Preferences/Editing/Shortcuts/Browse).
> *The cua.bind file is the basic one.*"
>
> Any further help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Best
>
> Mike
> --
>
> I *AM* a unique and special snowflake
>
>

Re: LyX key bindings

[mike]

On 15/03/2018 13:25, mike wrote:

On 15/03/2018 12:43, mike wrote:

On 15/03/2018 10:09, Ricardo Berlasso wrote:



2018-03-15 9:46 GMT+01:00 mike >:


On 15/03/2018 08:42, mike wrote:

Hello

Can someone help me please?  I would like to bind a key
combination to "command-alternatives in-ipa ; ipa-insert". 
For the moment at least I want to stick to the default key
bindings plus this one additional binding.  Again for the
moment anyway how do I find out what the default key
bindings are so that I don't reset a key binding that
already exists?  Is there a way to do this in LyX itself
rather than having to mess around with bind files?  I did
try to work this out myself but couldn't figure it out.  FWI
I use LyX on Win 7 Pro with 32 bit MiKTeX.


Keep in mind that I'm translating from Spanish and that I'm using a 
Linux system, so check everything!


On Tools → Settings → Edition → Keyboard shortcuts type "ipa" on the 
filter box and you'll find the ipa-insert command listed below: 
select it and click on Modify to assign a keyboard shortcut to it.


Regards,
Ricardo




Thanks very much in advance for any help

Mike

Sorry I forgot to mention that if I can do it in LyX itself I'd
like it to "stick" in the sense that if I close LyX and start it
again I don't have to manually set the key binding.


Mike



Hi Ricardo

Thanks very much for your reply.  BTW I'm running LyX 2.2.3. Here's 
what I've come up with.


I have to do something slightly different namely

    Tools > Preferences > Editing > Shortcuts > Cursor, Mouse and 
Editing Functions > ipa-insert > Modify


The bind file is shown as cua in which there is no binding for 
ipa-insert.  (Someone please tell me if I'm wrong) so after I click 
on Modify I have to select New and then enter the binding.  So I 
enter C-x i and ipa-insert and it does indeed "stick" in the sense I 
described before.  I can close LyX and restart it and look at 
cua.bind and it's still there. (I do that in Emacs in case you're 
wondering.  The path on my machine is Program Files (x86) > LyX 2.2 > 
Resources > bind > cua.bind.)


However cua.bind cannot possibly be the default bind file because if 
I am in LyX and type C-x it says "command disabled" so I can't even 
do "cut".  I think I can figure out how to load the cua bindings but 
my concern is that it will reset some of the default bindings.  I 
also use LyX for math and logic and I don't want to lose those shortcuts.


Please compare to 
https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/KeyboardShortcuts#StandardKeybindings where 
it says "You can use the script LyxBindings 
 to generate your own 
documentats describing for your configuration of keyboard shortcuts. 
Some users experience the complete loss of every bindings after 
changes. In that case, a .bind file needs to be reselected in the 
menu (Tools/Preferences/Editing/Shortcuts/Browse). /The cua.bind file 
is the basic one./"


Any further help would be greatly appreciated.

Best

Mike



So to summarize:

1.

Is cua.bind really the default?

2.

Why does C-x give "command disabled"?

3.

Will loading cua.bind blow away any pre-existing default LyX
shortcuts?



Ok now I'm really confused.  LyX shows the C-x i binding but cua.bind 
doesn't.  But as least C-c works.  Have I messed up by defining C-x i 
when C-x means "cut".  In that case what prefix can I use (in Emacs 
terms) to define my own extended shortcuts?  But how can I have messed 
up when cua.bind only shows C-x and no other C-x plus something 
bindings?  At least there's a problem here between what LyX thinks the 
cua shortcuts are and what is actually in cua.bind.


Mike

--
I *AM* a unique and special snowflake

Re: LyX key bindings

[mike]

On 15/03/2018 12:43, mike wrote:

On 15/03/2018 10:09, Ricardo Berlasso wrote:



2018-03-15 9:46 GMT+01:00 mike >:


On 15/03/2018 08:42, mike wrote:

Hello

Can someone help me please?  I would like to bind a key
combination to "command-alternatives in-ipa ; ipa-insert". 
For the moment at least I want to stick to the default key
bindings plus this one additional binding.  Again for the
moment anyway how do I find out what the default key bindings
are so that I don't reset a key binding that already exists? 
Is there a way to do this in LyX itself rather than having to
mess around with bind files? I did try to work this out
myself but couldn't figure it out.  FWI I use LyX on Win 7
Pro with 32 bit MiKTeX.


Keep in mind that I'm translating from Spanish and that I'm using a 
Linux system, so check everything!


On Tools → Settings → Edition → Keyboard shortcuts type "ipa" on the 
filter box and you'll find the ipa-insert command listed below: 
select it and click on Modify to assign a keyboard shortcut to it.


Regards,
Ricardo




Thanks very much in advance for any help

Mike

Sorry I forgot to mention that if I can do it in LyX itself I'd
like it to "stick" in the sense that if I close LyX and start it
again I don't have to manually set the key binding.


Mike



Hi Ricardo

Thanks very much for your reply.  BTW I'm running LyX 2.2.3. Here's 
what I've come up with.


I have to do something slightly different namely

    Tools > Preferences > Editing > Shortcuts > Cursor, Mouse and 
Editing Functions > ipa-insert > Modify


The bind file is shown as cua in which there is no binding for 
ipa-insert.  (Someone please tell me if I'm wrong) so after I click on 
Modify I have to select New and then enter the binding.  So I enter 
C-x i and ipa-insert and it does indeed "stick" in the sense I 
described before.  I can close LyX and restart it and look at cua.bind 
and it's still there.  (I do that in Emacs in case you're wondering.  
The path on my machine is Program Files (x86) > LyX 2.2 > Resources > 
bind > cua.bind.)


However cua.bind cannot possibly be the default bind file because if I 
am in LyX and type C-x it says "command disabled" so I can't even do 
"cut".  I think I can figure out how to load the cua bindings but my 
concern is that it will reset some of the default bindings.  I also 
use LyX for math and logic and I don't want to lose those shortcuts.


Please compare to 
https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/KeyboardShortcuts#StandardKeybindings where 
it says "You can use the script LyxBindings 
 to generate your own 
documentats describing for your configuration of keyboard shortcuts. 
Some users experience the complete loss of every bindings after 
changes. In that case, a .bind file needs to be reselected in the menu 
(Tools/Preferences/Editing/Shortcuts/Browse). /The cua.bind file is 
the basic one./"


Any further help would be greatly appreciated.

Best

Mike



So to summarize:

1.

   Is cua.bind really the default?

2.

   Why does C-x give "command disabled"?

3.

   Will loading cua.bind blow away any pre-existing default LyX shortcuts?

--
I *AM* a unique and special snowflake

Re: LyX key bindings

[mike]

On 15/03/2018 10:09, Ricardo Berlasso wrote:



2018-03-15 9:46 GMT+01:00 mike >:


On 15/03/2018 08:42, mike wrote:

Hello

Can someone help me please?  I would like to bind a key
combination to "command-alternatives in-ipa ; ipa-insert". 
For the moment at least I want to stick to the default key
bindings plus this one additional binding.  Again for the
moment anyway how do I find out what the default key bindings
are so that I don't reset a key binding that already exists? 
Is there a way to do this in LyX itself rather than having to
mess around with bind files?  I did try to work this out
myself but couldn't figure it out.  FWI I use LyX on Win 7 Pro
with 32 bit MiKTeX.


Keep in mind that I'm translating from Spanish and that I'm using a 
Linux system, so check everything!


On Tools → Settings → Edition → Keyboard shortcuts type "ipa" on the 
filter box and you'll find the ipa-insert command listed below: select 
it and click on Modify to assign a keyboard shortcut to it.


Regards,
Ricardo




Thanks very much in advance for any help

Mike

Sorry I forgot to mention that if I can do it in LyX itself I'd
like it to "stick" in the sense that if I close LyX and start it
again I don't have to manually set the key binding.


Mike



Hi Ricardo

Thanks very much for your reply.  BTW I'm running LyX 2.2.3.  Here's 
what I've come up with.


I have to do something slightly different namely

    Tools > Preferences > Editing > Shortcuts > Cursor, Mouse and 
Editing Functions > ipa-insert > Modify


The bind file is shown as cua in which there is no binding for 
ipa-insert.  (Someone please tell me if I'm wrong) so after I click on 
Modify I have to select New and then enter the binding. So I enter C-x i 
and ipa-insert and it does indeed "stick" in the sense I described 
before.  I can close LyX and restart it and look at cua.bind and it's 
still there.  (I do that in Emacs in case you're wondering.  The path on 
my machine is Program Files (x86) > LyX 2.2 > Resources > bind > cua.bind.)


However cua.bind cannot possibly be the default bind file because if I 
am in LyX and type C-x it says "command disabled" so I can't even do 
"cut".  I think I can figure out how to load the cua bindings but my 
concern is that it will reset some of the default bindings.  I also use 
LyX for math and logic and I don't want to lose those shortcuts.


Please compare to 
https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/KeyboardShortcuts#StandardKeybindings where it 
says "You can use the script LyxBindings 
 to generate your own 
documentats describing for your configuration of keyboard shortcuts. 
Some users experience the complete loss of every bindings after changes. 
In that case, a .bind file needs to be reselected in the menu 
(Tools/Preferences/Editing/Shortcuts/Browse). /The cua.bind file is the 
basic one./"


Any further help would be greatly appreciated.

Best

Mike

--

I *AM* a unique and special snowflake

Re: LyX key bindings

[Ricardo Berlasso]

2018-03-15 9:46 GMT+01:00 mike :

> On 15/03/2018 08:42, mike wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> Can someone help me please?  I would like to bind a key combination to
>> "command-alternatives in-ipa ; ipa-insert".  For the moment at least I want
>> to stick to the default key bindings plus this one additional binding.
>> Again for the moment anyway how do I find out what the default key bindings
>> are so that I don't reset a key binding that already exists?  Is there a
>> way to do this in LyX itself rather than having to mess around with bind
>> files?  I did try to work this out myself but couldn't figure it out.  FWI
>> I use LyX on Win 7 Pro with 32 bit MiKTeX.
>>
>
Keep in mind that I'm translating from Spanish and that I'm using a Linux
system, so check everything!

On Tools → Settings → Edition → Keyboard shortcuts type "ipa" on the filter
box and you'll find the ipa-insert command listed below: select it and
click on Modify to assign a keyboard shortcut to it.

Regards,
Ricardo





>
>> Thanks very much in advance for any help
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Sorry I forgot to mention that if I can do it in LyX itself I'd like it
> to "stick" in the sense that if I close LyX and start it again I don't have
> to manually set the key binding.
>
>
> Mike
>
> --
> I *AM* a unique and special snowflake
>
>

Re: LyX key bindings

[mike]

On 15/03/2018 08:42, mike wrote:

Hello

Can someone help me please?  I would like to bind a key combination to 
"command-alternatives in-ipa ; ipa-insert".  For the moment at least I 
want to stick to the default key bindings plus this one additional 
binding.  Again for the moment anyway how do I find out what the 
default key bindings are so that I don't reset a key binding that 
already exists?  Is there a way to do this in LyX itself rather than 
having to mess around with bind files?  I did try to work this out 
myself but couldn't figure it out.  FWI I use LyX on Win 7 Pro with 32 
bit MiKTeX.


Thanks very much in advance for any help

Mike

Sorry I forgot to mention that if I can do it in LyX itself I'd like it 
to "stick" in the sense that if I close LyX and start it again I don't 
have to manually set the key binding.


Mike

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