Re: correct spacing in e.g. of a document
Am Samstag, dem 27.08.2022 um 10:48 -0600 schrieb Joel Kulesza: > As a counterpoint, the Chicago Manual of Style (my preferred > reference for style alongside Strunk and White) seems to suggest not. > > https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/Abbreviations/faq0047.html Sure. I think these academic stylesheets (probably rightly) have users in mind who either use full or no space, not thin space (and who do not even know this exists). Bringhurst addresses typographers. -- Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: correct spacing in e.g. of a document
On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 6:02 AM Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Samstag, dem 27.08.2022 um 13:08 +0200 schrieb Herbert Voss: > > yes, german users often used it :-) but it is not common for > > english texts written by native people, as far as I know. > > Bringhurst suggests to do it. > As a counterpoint, the Chicago Manual of Style (my preferred reference for style alongside Strunk and White) seems to suggest not. https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/Abbreviations/faq0047.html - Joel -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: correct spacing in e.g. of a document
Am 27.08.22 um 16:15 schrieb Daniel: On 2022-08-27 14:02, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Samstag, dem 27.08.2022 um 13:08 +0200 schrieb Herbert Voss: yes, german users often used it :-) but it is not common for english texts written by native people, as far as I know. Bringhurst suggests to do it. Or if you want to go wilder: just "eg" (no dots at all). As used in the Oxford style guide. Well, at least it solves the spacing problem. :) Daniel another idea, would be applicable to etc too, I guess. Wolfgang -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: correct spacing in e.g. of a document
Am 27.08.22 um 15:58 schrieb Daniel: On 2022-08-27 13:26, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 27 août 2022 11:39:38 GMT+02:00, Wolfgang Engelmann a écrit : What is the correct spacing in e.g. of a lyx document Try "e.g.\ ". We have a space for that, I never remember which one. JMarc It's called "Interword Space" in LyX 2.3 and because it is a little hard to remember what that entails it will be just called "Normal Space" in 2.4. Daniel Thanks, Herbert and Daniel. Got it. Wolfgang -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: correct spacing in e.g. of a document
On 2022-08-27 14:02, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Samstag, dem 27.08.2022 um 13:08 +0200 schrieb Herbert Voss: yes, german users often used it :-) but it is not common for english texts written by native people, as far as I know. Bringhurst suggests to do it. Or if you want to go wilder: just "eg" (no dots at all). As used in the Oxford style guide. Well, at least it solves the spacing problem. :) Daniel -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: correct spacing in e.g. of a document
On 2022-08-27 13:26, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 27 août 2022 11:39:38 GMT+02:00, Wolfgang Engelmann a écrit : What is the correct spacing in e.g. of a lyx document Try "e.g.\ ". We have a space for that, I never remember which one. JMarc It's called "Interword Space" in LyX 2.3 and because it is a little hard to remember what that entails it will be just called "Normal Space" in 2.4. Daniel -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: correct spacing in e.g. of a document
Am 27.08.22 um 13:47 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: x e.g.\ y this is the correct one, because the dot is not the end of a sentence. See https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/2229/is-a-period-after-an-abbreviation-the-same-as-an-end-of-sentence-period sometimes also written with a space between: x e.\ g.\ y See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases_(E)#exempli_gratia I use: \def\eg{e.g.\ } would this be in the preamble? x \eg y and this in the text? yes Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: correct spacing in e.g. of a document
Am Samstag, dem 27.08.2022 um 13:08 +0200 schrieb Herbert Voss: > yes, german users often used it :-) but it is not common for > english texts written by native people, as far as I know. Bringhurst suggests to do it. -- Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: correct spacing in e.g. of a document
Am 27.08.22 um 11:59 schrieb Herbert Voss: Am 27.08.22 um 11:39 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: What is the correct spacing in e.g. of a lyx document (debian bullseye, lyx version 2.4.0dev (noch nicht veröffentlicht) Erstellt aus Git-Revision 53ed3dc0 Qt-Version (Laufzeit): 5.15.2 (Plattform: xcb) Qt-Version (bei Erstellung): 5.15.2 Python-Aufruf: python3 -tt? Using chktex in tool tells me: Interword spacing (`\ ') should perhaps be used. so I tried these variations: x e.g. y x \e.g. y x e.\g. y x e.g.\ y this is the correct one, because the dot is not the end of a sentence. See https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/2229/is-a-period-after-an-abbreviation-the-same-as-an-end-of-sentence-period sometimes also written with a space between: x e.\ g.\ y See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases_(E)#exempli_gratia I use: \def\eg{e.g.\ } would this be in the preamble? x \eg y and this in the text? Herbert Wolfgang -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: correct spacing in e.g. of a document
Le 27 août 2022 11:39:38 GMT+02:00, Wolfgang Engelmann a écrit : >What is the correct spacing in e.g. of a lyx document Try "e.g.\ ". We have a space for that, I never remember which one. JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: correct spacing in e.g. of a document
Am 27.08.22 um 12:50 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller: Am Samstag, dem 27.08.2022 um 11:59 +0200 schrieb Herbert Voss: this is the correct one, because the dot is not the end of a sentence. See https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/2229/is-a-period-after-an-abbreviation-the-same-as-an-end-of-sentence-period sometimes also written with a space between: x e.\ g.\ y See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases_(E)#exempli_gratia I'd use thinspace inbetween: e.\,g.\ y yes, german users often used it :-) but it is not common for english texts written by native people, as far as I know. Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: correct spacing in e.g. of a document
Am Samstag, dem 27.08.2022 um 11:59 +0200 schrieb Herbert Voss: > this is the correct one, because the dot is not the end of a > sentence. > See > https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/2229/is-a-period-after-an-abbreviation-the-same-as-an-end-of-sentence-period > > sometimes also written with a space between: x e.\ g.\ y > See > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases_(E)#exempli_gratia I'd use thinspace inbetween: e.\,g.\ y -- Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: correct spacing in e.g. of a document
Am 27.08.22 um 11:39 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann: What is the correct spacing in e.g. of a lyx document (debian bullseye, lyx version 2.4.0dev (noch nicht veröffentlicht) Erstellt aus Git-Revision 53ed3dc0 Qt-Version (Laufzeit): 5.15.2 (Plattform: xcb) Qt-Version (bei Erstellung): 5.15.2 Python-Aufruf: python3 -tt? Using chktex in tool tells me: Interword spacing (`\ ') should perhaps be used. so I tried these variations: x e.g. y x \e.g. y x e.\g. y x e.g.\ y this is the correct one, because the dot is not the end of a sentence. See https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/2229/is-a-period-after-an-abbreviation-the-same-as-an-end-of-sentence-period sometimes also written with a space between: x e.\ g.\ y See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases_(E)#exempli_gratia I use: \def\eg{e.g.\ } x \eg y Herbert -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users