Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
Am Dienstag, 12. März 2013, 23:49:03 schrieb Csikos Bela: snip 2. Is there any way to use footnotes in the caption of figure floats? Lyx automatically disables the Insert-Footnote menu item in this case. I don't know about this one. in preamble: \usepackage{footnote} % Ermöglicht Fußnoten in gleitenden Umgebungen Wolfgang
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
Am Dienstag, 12. März 2013, 23:49:03 schrieb Csikos Bela: snip 2. Is there any way to use footnotes in the caption of figure floats? Lyx automatically disables the Insert-Footnote menu item in this case. I don't know about this one. in preamble: \usepackage{footnote} % Ermöglicht Fußnoten in gleitenden Umgebungen Wolfgang
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
Am Dienstag, 12. März 2013, 23:49:03 schrieb Csikos Bela: snip > >2. Is there any way to use footnotes in the caption > >of figure floats? Lyx automatically disables the Insert->Footnote menu > >>item in this case. > > I don't know about this one. in preamble: \usepackage{footnote} % Ermöglicht Fußnoten in gleitenden Umgebungen Wolfgang
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Regina Anger regina.an...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I am using lyx to write a thesis, and currently there are only two issues which cause problems: 1. Sometimes I use long non-breakable words, like long function names. In those cases lyx/latex do not attemp to break a new line, instead the long function name ignores margins and even sometimes is placed outside of the printable area. Is this a known problem? Are there workarrounds available? https://sites.google.com/site/tsewiki/resources/latex LyX_Essentials.pdf Section 5.6 Liviu 2. Is there any way to use footnotes in the caption of figure floats? Lyx automatically disables the Insert-Footnote menu item in this case. Thx -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail
RE: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
Hi Liviu, 1. Sometimes I use long non-breakable words, like long function names. In those cases lyx/latex do not attemp to break a new line, instead the long function name ignores margins and even sometimes is placed outside of the printable area. Is this a known problem? Are there workarrounds available? https://sites.google.com/site/tsewiki/resources/latex LyX_Essentials.pdf Section 5.6 Thanks for the pointer. However, for me latex does not hyphenate long function names at all, and I do not want the fuction name to be cut-off in the middle. Is there any way to specify that in case of hyphenation latex should instead put this specific word into the next line completely? Thx
RE: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Regina Anger wrote: However, for me latex does not hyphenate long function names at all, and I do not want the fuction name to be cut-off in the middle. Regina, Sometimes TeX cannot determine where a word should be hypenated so it sticks out into the right margin. We give TeX hints for hyphenating by entering the ERT \- at places where it is OK to hyphenate the word. TeX will pick one of these and use it. I do this quite frequently. The alternative is to re-order the sentence so the long string is within the line and shorter words surround it. I do this, too, on occasion. Rich
RE: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
Hi Rich, Sometimes TeX cannot determine where a word should be hypenated so it sticks out into the right margin. We give TeX hints for hyphenating by entering the ERT \- at places where it is OK to hyphenate the word. TeX will pick one of these and use it. I do this quite frequently. The alternative is to re-order the sentence so the long string is within the line and shorter words surround it. I do this, too, on occasion. So, there is no way to tell TeX to put a word on the next line completely in case it would be hyphenated? Otherwise it seems I really have to take the re-ordering approach, however if possible I would like to avoid this as it seems not very robust in regards to changes. Thx
RE: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Regina Anger wrote: So, there is no way to tell TeX to put a word on the next line completely in case it would be hyphenated? Otherwise it seems I really have to take the re-ordering approach, however if possible I would like to avoid this as it seems not very robust in regards to changes. Regina, Have you tried entering (as ERT) \n (newline) before your long function name? I've not done this but it should force a line break there. Rich
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
Try \linebreak[4]\mbox{annoyinglongunbreakableword}. You can put the whole thing in a TeX box, or put everything up to and including the first brace in a TeX box, the unbreakable mess in ordinary text, and the trailing brace in another TeX box. Footnotes in captions is an unholy mess. Try googling it and you'll see. Paul
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Paul A. Rubin wrote: Footnotes in captions is an unholy mess. Try googling it and you'll see. The LyX wiki has useful help on this ... I used it in a recent paper. You make an mbox in the float, put the graphic in one part and the caption in the other (I forget the exact process but it's all in the wiki page). Works OK. Rich
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On 03/12/2013 05:20 PM, Regina Anger wrote: Hi Liviu, 1. Sometimes I use long non-breakable words, like long function names. In those cases lyx/latex do not attemp to break a new line, instead the long function name ignores margins and even sometimes is placed outside of the printable area. Is this a known problem? Are there workarrounds available? https://sites.google.com/site/tsewiki/resources/latex LyX_Essentials.pdf Section 5.6 Thanks for the pointer. However, for me latex does not hyphenate long function names at all, and I do not want the fuction name to be cut-off in the middle. Is there any way to specify that in case of hyphenation latex should instead put this specific word into the next line completely? Thx What you are really talking about is a too-long math line. This happens all the time with long expressions, though I have never had a math function name so long that it caused trouble. You can manually break the line by using a multiline math environment. LyX will let you choose from a list in the menus. It might just be that you need to make the math line, where the function is, a displayed line rather than inline. Is the function so long that it takes more than a whole line of a page? TeX sometimes has trouble with inline equations. It will not hyphenate such a line (hyphens would be interpreted as minus signs), leaving it for you to do manually. -- David L. Johnson Let's be straight here. If we find something we can't understand we like to call it something you can't understand, or indeed even pronounce. -- Douglas Adams
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On 03/12/2013 05:24 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Regina Anger wrote: However, for me latex does not hyphenate long function names at all, and I do not want the fuction name to be cut-off in the middle. Regina, Sometimes TeX cannot determine where a word should be hypenated so it sticks out into the right margin. We give TeX hints for hyphenating by entering the ERT \- at places where it is OK to hyphenate the word. TeX will pick one of these and use it. I do this quite frequently. The alternative is to re-order the sentence so the long string is within the line and shorter words surround it. I do this, too, on occasion. Rich I think the issue is that this is happening in math mode. There, lines are up to the writer entirely. -- David L. Johnson Let's be straight here. If we find something we can't understand we like to call it something you can't understand, or indeed even pronounce. -- Douglas Adams
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
Regina Anger regina.an...@hotmail.com írta: Hi,I am using lyx to write a thesis, and currently there are only two issues which cause problems:1. Sometimes I use long non-breakable words, like long function names. In those cases lyx/latex do not attemp to break a new line, instead the long function name ignores margins and even sometimes is placed outside of the printable area.Is this a known problem? You can add the line \sloppy in document preamble (Document-settings-Latex preamble). It helps to keep margins and force line breaks. For preventing hyphenation of your long functions add this to the very beginning of your document in ERT (=insert text code): \hyphenation{longfunction1 lon-gfun-cti-on2 etc}. Staying with the above example logfunction1 will not be hyphenated at all, longfunction2 can be hyphenated at every indicated dashes. 2. Is there any way to use footnotes in the caption of figure floats? Lyx automatically disables the Insert-Footnote menu item in this case. I don't know about this one. bcsikos
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:43 PM, David L. Johnson david.john...@lehigh.edu wrote: On 03/12/2013 05:24 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Regina Anger wrote: However, for me latex does not hyphenate long function names at all, and I do not want the fuction name to be cut-off in the middle. Regina, Sometimes TeX cannot determine where a word should be hypenated so it sticks out into the right margin. We give TeX hints for hyphenating by entering the ERT \- at places where it is OK to hyphenate the word. TeX will pick one of these and use it. I do this quite frequently. The alternative is to re-order the sentence so the long string is within the line and shorter words surround it. I do this, too, on occasion. Rich I think the issue is that this is happening in math mode. There, lines are up to the writer entirely. I don't have much experience with it, but perhaps the breqn package could be useful here. Scott
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Regina Anger regina.an...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I am using lyx to write a thesis, and currently there are only two issues which cause problems: 1. Sometimes I use long non-breakable words, like long function names. In those cases lyx/latex do not attemp to break a new line, instead the long function name ignores margins and even sometimes is placed outside of the printable area. Is this a known problem? Are there workarrounds available? https://sites.google.com/site/tsewiki/resources/latex LyX_Essentials.pdf Section 5.6 Liviu 2. Is there any way to use footnotes in the caption of figure floats? Lyx automatically disables the Insert-Footnote menu item in this case. Thx -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail
RE: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
Hi Liviu, 1. Sometimes I use long non-breakable words, like long function names. In those cases lyx/latex do not attemp to break a new line, instead the long function name ignores margins and even sometimes is placed outside of the printable area. Is this a known problem? Are there workarrounds available? https://sites.google.com/site/tsewiki/resources/latex LyX_Essentials.pdf Section 5.6 Thanks for the pointer. However, for me latex does not hyphenate long function names at all, and I do not want the fuction name to be cut-off in the middle. Is there any way to specify that in case of hyphenation latex should instead put this specific word into the next line completely? Thx
RE: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Regina Anger wrote: However, for me latex does not hyphenate long function names at all, and I do not want the fuction name to be cut-off in the middle. Regina, Sometimes TeX cannot determine where a word should be hypenated so it sticks out into the right margin. We give TeX hints for hyphenating by entering the ERT \- at places where it is OK to hyphenate the word. TeX will pick one of these and use it. I do this quite frequently. The alternative is to re-order the sentence so the long string is within the line and shorter words surround it. I do this, too, on occasion. Rich
RE: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
Hi Rich, Sometimes TeX cannot determine where a word should be hypenated so it sticks out into the right margin. We give TeX hints for hyphenating by entering the ERT \- at places where it is OK to hyphenate the word. TeX will pick one of these and use it. I do this quite frequently. The alternative is to re-order the sentence so the long string is within the line and shorter words surround it. I do this, too, on occasion. So, there is no way to tell TeX to put a word on the next line completely in case it would be hyphenated? Otherwise it seems I really have to take the re-ordering approach, however if possible I would like to avoid this as it seems not very robust in regards to changes. Thx
RE: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Regina Anger wrote: So, there is no way to tell TeX to put a word on the next line completely in case it would be hyphenated? Otherwise it seems I really have to take the re-ordering approach, however if possible I would like to avoid this as it seems not very robust in regards to changes. Regina, Have you tried entering (as ERT) \n (newline) before your long function name? I've not done this but it should force a line break there. Rich
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
Try \linebreak[4]\mbox{annoyinglongunbreakableword}. You can put the whole thing in a TeX box, or put everything up to and including the first brace in a TeX box, the unbreakable mess in ordinary text, and the trailing brace in another TeX box. Footnotes in captions is an unholy mess. Try googling it and you'll see. Paul
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Paul A. Rubin wrote: Footnotes in captions is an unholy mess. Try googling it and you'll see. The LyX wiki has useful help on this ... I used it in a recent paper. You make an mbox in the float, put the graphic in one part and the caption in the other (I forget the exact process but it's all in the wiki page). Works OK. Rich
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On 03/12/2013 05:20 PM, Regina Anger wrote: Hi Liviu, 1. Sometimes I use long non-breakable words, like long function names. In those cases lyx/latex do not attemp to break a new line, instead the long function name ignores margins and even sometimes is placed outside of the printable area. Is this a known problem? Are there workarrounds available? https://sites.google.com/site/tsewiki/resources/latex LyX_Essentials.pdf Section 5.6 Thanks for the pointer. However, for me latex does not hyphenate long function names at all, and I do not want the fuction name to be cut-off in the middle. Is there any way to specify that in case of hyphenation latex should instead put this specific word into the next line completely? Thx What you are really talking about is a too-long math line. This happens all the time with long expressions, though I have never had a math function name so long that it caused trouble. You can manually break the line by using a multiline math environment. LyX will let you choose from a list in the menus. It might just be that you need to make the math line, where the function is, a displayed line rather than inline. Is the function so long that it takes more than a whole line of a page? TeX sometimes has trouble with inline equations. It will not hyphenate such a line (hyphens would be interpreted as minus signs), leaving it for you to do manually. -- David L. Johnson Let's be straight here. If we find something we can't understand we like to call it something you can't understand, or indeed even pronounce. -- Douglas Adams
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On 03/12/2013 05:24 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Regina Anger wrote: However, for me latex does not hyphenate long function names at all, and I do not want the fuction name to be cut-off in the middle. Regina, Sometimes TeX cannot determine where a word should be hypenated so it sticks out into the right margin. We give TeX hints for hyphenating by entering the ERT \- at places where it is OK to hyphenate the word. TeX will pick one of these and use it. I do this quite frequently. The alternative is to re-order the sentence so the long string is within the line and shorter words surround it. I do this, too, on occasion. Rich I think the issue is that this is happening in math mode. There, lines are up to the writer entirely. -- David L. Johnson Let's be straight here. If we find something we can't understand we like to call it something you can't understand, or indeed even pronounce. -- Douglas Adams
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
Regina Anger regina.an...@hotmail.com írta: Hi,I am using lyx to write a thesis, and currently there are only two issues which cause problems:1. Sometimes I use long non-breakable words, like long function names. In those cases lyx/latex do not attemp to break a new line, instead the long function name ignores margins and even sometimes is placed outside of the printable area.Is this a known problem? You can add the line \sloppy in document preamble (Document-settings-Latex preamble). It helps to keep margins and force line breaks. For preventing hyphenation of your long functions add this to the very beginning of your document in ERT (=insert text code): \hyphenation{longfunction1 lon-gfun-cti-on2 etc}. Staying with the above example logfunction1 will not be hyphenated at all, longfunction2 can be hyphenated at every indicated dashes. 2. Is there any way to use footnotes in the caption of figure floats? Lyx automatically disables the Insert-Footnote menu item in this case. I don't know about this one. bcsikos
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:43 PM, David L. Johnson david.john...@lehigh.edu wrote: On 03/12/2013 05:24 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Regina Anger wrote: However, for me latex does not hyphenate long function names at all, and I do not want the fuction name to be cut-off in the middle. Regina, Sometimes TeX cannot determine where a word should be hypenated so it sticks out into the right margin. We give TeX hints for hyphenating by entering the ERT \- at places where it is OK to hyphenate the word. TeX will pick one of these and use it. I do this quite frequently. The alternative is to re-order the sentence so the long string is within the line and shorter words surround it. I do this, too, on occasion. Rich I think the issue is that this is happening in math mode. There, lines are up to the writer entirely. I don't have much experience with it, but perhaps the breqn package could be useful here. Scott
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Regina Angerwrote: > Hi, > > I am using lyx to write a thesis, and currently there are only two issues > which cause problems: > > 1. Sometimes I use long non-breakable words, like long function names. In > those cases lyx/latex do not attemp to break a new line, instead the long > function name ignores margins and even sometimes is placed outside of the > printable area. > Is this a known problem? Are there workarrounds available? > https://sites.google.com/site/tsewiki/resources/latex LyX_Essentials.pdf Section 5.6 Liviu > 2. Is there any way to use footnotes in the caption of figure floats? Lyx > automatically disables the Insert->Footnote menu item in this case. > > Thx -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-dict#speed-reader Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail
RE: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
Hi Liviu, > > 1. Sometimes I use long non-breakable words, like long function names. In > > those cases lyx/latex do not attemp to break a new line, instead the long > > function name ignores margins and even sometimes is placed outside of the > > printable area. > > Is this a known problem? Are there workarrounds available? > > > https://sites.google.com/site/tsewiki/resources/latex > > LyX_Essentials.pdf > Section 5.6 Thanks for the pointer. However, for me latex does not hyphenate long function names at all, and I do not want the fuction name to be cut-off in the middle. Is there any way to specify that in case of hyphenation latex should instead put this specific word into the next line completely? Thx
RE: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Regina Anger wrote: However, for me latex does not hyphenate long function names at all, and I do not want the fuction name to be cut-off in the middle. Regina, Sometimes TeX cannot determine where a word should be hypenated so it sticks out into the right margin. We give TeX hints for hyphenating by entering the ERT \- at places where it is OK to hyphenate the word. TeX will pick one of these and use it. I do this quite frequently. The alternative is to re-order the sentence so the long string is within the line and shorter words surround it. I do this, too, on occasion. Rich
RE: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
Hi Rich, >Sometimes TeX cannot determine where a word should be hypenated so it > sticks out into the right margin. We give TeX hints for hyphenating by > entering the ERT \- at places where it is OK to hyphenate the word. TeX will > pick one of these and use it. I do this quite frequently. > >The alternative is to re-order the sentence so the long string is within > the line and shorter words surround it. I do this, too, on occasion. So, there is no way to tell TeX to put a word on the next line completely in case it would be hyphenated? Otherwise it seems I really have to take the re-ordering approach, however if possible I would like to avoid this as it seems not very robust in regards to changes. Thx
RE: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Regina Anger wrote: So, there is no way to tell TeX to put a word on the next line completely in case it would be hyphenated? Otherwise it seems I really have to take the re-ordering approach, however if possible I would like to avoid this as it seems not very robust in regards to changes. Regina, Have you tried entering (as ERT) \n (newline) before your long function name? I've not done this but it should force a line break there. Rich
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
Try \linebreak[4]\mbox{annoyinglongunbreakableword}. You can put the whole thing in a TeX box, or put everything up to and including the first brace in a TeX box, the unbreakable mess in ordinary text, and the trailing brace in another TeX box. Footnotes in captions is an unholy mess. Try googling it and you'll see. Paul
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Paul A. Rubin wrote: Footnotes in captions is an unholy mess. Try googling it and you'll see. The LyX wiki has useful help on this ... I used it in a recent paper. You make an mbox in the float, put the graphic in one part and the caption in the other (I forget the exact process but it's all in the wiki page). Works OK. Rich
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On 03/12/2013 05:20 PM, Regina Anger wrote: Hi Liviu, > > 1. Sometimes I use long non-breakable words, like long function names. In > > those cases lyx/latex do not attemp to break a new line, instead the long > > function name ignores margins and even sometimes is placed outside of the > > printable area. > > Is this a known problem? Are there workarrounds available? > > > https://sites.google.com/site/tsewiki/resources/latex > > LyX_Essentials.pdf > Section 5.6 Thanks for the pointer. However, for me latex does not hyphenate long function names at all, and I do not want the fuction name to be cut-off in the middle. Is there any way to specify that in case of hyphenation latex should instead put this specific word into the next line completely? Thx What you are really talking about is a too-long math line. This happens all the time with long expressions, though I have never had a math function name so long that it caused trouble. You can manually break the line by using a multiline math environment. LyX will let you choose from a list in the menus. It might just be that you need to make the math line, where the function is, a displayed line rather than inline. Is the function so long that it takes more than a whole line of a page? TeX sometimes has trouble with inline equations. It will not hyphenate such a line (hyphens would be interpreted as minus signs), leaving it for you to do manually. -- David L. Johnson Let's be straight here. If we find something we can't understand we like to call it something you can't understand, or indeed even pronounce. -- Douglas Adams
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On 03/12/2013 05:24 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Regina Anger wrote: However, for me latex does not hyphenate long function names at all, and I do not want the fuction name to be cut-off in the middle. Regina, Sometimes TeX cannot determine where a word should be hypenated so it sticks out into the right margin. We give TeX hints for hyphenating by entering the ERT \- at places where it is OK to hyphenate the word. TeX will pick one of these and use it. I do this quite frequently. The alternative is to re-order the sentence so the long string is within the line and shorter words surround it. I do this, too, on occasion. Rich I think the issue is that this is happening in math mode. There, lines are up to the writer entirely. -- David L. Johnson Let's be straight here. If we find something we can't understand we like to call it something you can't understand, or indeed even pronounce. -- Douglas Adams
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
Regina Angerírta: >Hi,I am using lyx to write a thesis, and currently there are only two issues >which cause problems:1. Sometimes I use long non-breakable words, like >long function names. In those cases lyx/latex do not attemp to break a new >line, instead the long function name ignores margins and even sometimes >is >placed outside of the printable area.Is this a known problem? You can add the line \sloppy in document preamble (Document->settings->Latex preamble). It helps to keep margins and force line breaks. For preventing hyphenation of your long functions add this to the very beginning of your document in ERT (=insert text code): \hyphenation{longfunction1 lon-gfun-cti-on2 etc}. Staying with the above example logfunction1 will not be hyphenated at all, longfunction2 can be hyphenated at every indicated dashes. >2. Is there any way to use footnotes in the caption >of figure floats? Lyx automatically disables the Insert->Footnote menu >item >in this case. I don't know about this one. bcsikos
Re: Two hopefully simple lyx questions
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:43 PM, David L. Johnsonwrote: > On 03/12/2013 05:24 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: >> >> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Regina Anger wrote: >> >>> However, for me latex does not hyphenate long function names at all, and >>> I >>> do not want the fuction name to be cut-off in the middle. >> >> >> Regina, >> >> Sometimes TeX cannot determine where a word should be hypenated so it >> sticks out into the right margin. We give TeX hints for hyphenating by >> entering the ERT \- at places where it is OK to hyphenate the word. TeX >> will >> pick one of these and use it. I do this quite frequently. >> >> The alternative is to re-order the sentence so the long string is within >> the line and shorter words surround it. I do this, too, on occasion. >> >> Rich > > I think the issue is that this is happening in math mode. There, lines are > up to the writer entirely. I don't have much experience with it, but perhaps the breqn package could be useful here. Scott