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John -- yes, the "#" files appear to be autosaves. And thanks for the fallback DVI, etc., suggestion. After testing, I see that: "emergency" files are created if there is a crash. "~" files are "archive" backups of the last "saved" version. (These appear beginning with the second "save".) "#" are "autosave" backups; they get updated if the file changes before the backup interval (set in preferences) expires. These files are deleted by a "save" operation. So, if a "#" exists, it is more recent than a "~" file. So, the time ordering of the files would be, beginning with most recent (and assuming they exist): "emergency" files "#" files "~" files humanengr On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:11 PM, humanengr wrote: > Does anyone know what role the "#" are supposed to play? These appear to be autosaves. Also there is yet another type of file you can recover from. If you have done a view DVI etc, there is also likely to be a .tex file sitting somewhere in your tmp directory. You can then import that .tex file back into LyX. This saved me from retyping a couple of paragraphs of math once. -- John C. McCabe-Dansted PhD Student University of Western Australia
Re: file recovery
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:11 PM, humanengr wrote: > Does anyone know what role the "#" are supposed to play? These appear to be autosaves. Also there is yet another type of file you can recover from. If you have done a view DVI etc, there is also likely to be a .tex file sitting somewhere in your tmp directory. You can then import that .tex file back into LyX. This saved me from retyping a couple of paragraphs of math once. -- John C. McCabe-Dansted PhD Student University of Western Australia
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Helge, Olivier -- thanks. On my Mac (10.5.7), the backup preference doesn't seem to work. The "~" file gets created at the first "save" and gets updated at subsequent saves to reflect the prior save. The emergency file has appeared on each of the handful of crashes I've had the pleasure to witness. The "#" files (i.e., filenames of the form "#newfile1.lyx#") have appeared only a few times -- IIRC shortly after I create a new file (presumably at the first save) in lieu of the "~" file. Does anyone know what role the "#" are supposed to play? humanengr At 3:17 PM +0200 7/1/09, Helge Hafting wrote: My impression after a quick test: The "~" files are made whenever you save the document (File->Save) and is simply the previous version of the file. This has nothing to do with emergency files, it lets you recover if you make some mistake. For example, deleting some important text and then save&quit. At 3:39 PM +0200 7/1/09, Olivier Ripoll wrote: Backup (lyx~) files are the ones saved every N minutes by LyX, where N is 5 by default. You can set the backup period in the preferences. Emergency files are files saved in case of a crash. LyX will look at the file dates and can propose you to load the emergency file (or the backup file) instead, if they are more recent. If you load the emergency file, as long as you don't save it above the old one, you have not lost anything and if it's corrupted, you can then try the backup file or the original file. LyX does not touch your original file as long as you don't ask it to. I had one crash in 2000 because the X server had crashed, the emergency file had everything correct till the last key pressed before the crash. I think I've had another crash since on Windows (probably an alpha or beta of 1.6 IIRC), and I think then again, the emergency file was fine. So in fact, backups are more like to go back to an old version (well, undo can do that too). Or a second safety belt. Best regards, Olivier
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humanengr wrote: Thank you both. A follow-up: I see the User Guide indicates the "~" files are "backup". What is the relationship between those and the "emergency" and "#" files? Backup (lyx~) files are the ones saved every N minutes by LyX, where N is 5 by default. You can set the backup period in the preferences. Emergency files are files saved in case of a crash. LyX will look at the file dates and can propose you to load the emergency file (or the backup file) instead, if they are more recent. If you load the emergency file, as long as you don't save it above the old one, you have not lost anything and if it's corrupted, you can then try the backup file or the original file. LyX does not touch your original file as long as you don't ask it to. I had one crash in 2000 because the X server had crashed, the emergency file had everything correct till the last key pressed before the crash. I think I've had another crash since on Windows (probably an alpha or beta of 1.6 IIRC), and I think then again, the emergency file was fine. So in fact, backups are more like to go back to an old version (well, undo can do that too). Or a second safety belt. Best regards, Olivier At 8:54 AM +0200 6/29/09, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: I usually rename the x.lyx.emergency into eg x1.lyx and open it with lyx. Wolfgang At 2:56 AM -0400 6/29/09, Michael Joyner ?? wrote: copy xxx.lyx~ to xxx2.lyx
Re: file recovery
humanengr wrote: Thank you both. A follow-up: I see the User Guide indicates the "~" files are "backup". What is the relationship between those and the "emergency" and "#" files? My impression after a quick test: The "~" files are made whenever you save the document (File->Save) and is simply the previous version of the file. This has nothing to do with emergency files, it lets you recover if you make some mistake. For example, deleting some important text and then save&quit. Helge Hafting
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Am Monday 29 June 2009 10:40:08 schrieb humanengr: > Thank you both. A follow-up: > > I see the User Guide indicates the "~" files are "backup". What is > the relationship between those and the "emergency" and "#" files? "~" files are normal backups emergency if something went wrong with lyx: the latest automatic saving is used, AFAIK. Wolfgang
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Thank you both. A follow-up: I see the User Guide indicates the "~" files are "backup". What is the relationship between those and the "emergency" and "#" files? At 8:54 AM +0200 6/29/09, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: I usually rename the x.lyx.emergency into eg x1.lyx and open it with lyx. Wolfgang At 2:56 AM -0400 6/29/09, Michael Joyner ?? wrote: copy xxx.lyx~ to xxx2.lyx
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copy xxx.lyx~ to xxx2.lyx humanengr wrote: > How does one open a Lyx backup file? Where in the documentation is > this discussed? > > Thanks, > humanengr -- LyX: http://www.lyx.org/ OpenOffice: http://www.openoffice.org/ Inkscape: http://www.inkscape.org/ Scribus: http://www.scribus.net/ GIMP: http://www.gimp.org/ PDF: http://www.pdfforge.org/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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Am Monday 29 June 2009 05:35:12 schrieb humanengr: > How does one open a Lyx backup file? Where in the documentation is > this discussed? > > Thanks, > humanengr I usually rename the x.lyx.emergency into eg x1.lyx and open it with lyx. Wolfgang
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How does one open a Lyx backup file? Where in the documentation is this discussed? Thanks, humanengr
