Re: find next?
Am 21.02.2021 um 07:12 schrieb Daniel : > > On 2021-02-21 02:12, David Pesetsky wrote: >> Perhaps there is a font size problem? This is what I see. Notice that not >> only are the "<" and ">" indicators missing, but "Case sensitive" overlaps >> the next checkbox. (Hoping this listserv doesn't strip out graphics >> attachments.) > > I see the attached with current master and macOS 10.15.7 (Catalina). There > are the arrows but the checkboxes overlap. > Yes, the presentation of the arrows is work made after alpha3 was out. Stephan -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
On 2021-02-21 02:12, David Pesetsky wrote: Perhaps there is a font size problem? This is what I see. Notice that not only are the "<" and ">" indicators missing, but "Case sensitive" overlaps the next checkbox. (Hoping this listserv doesn't strip out graphics attachments.) I see the attached with current master and macOS 10.15.7 (Catalina). There are the arrows but the checkboxes overlap. Daniel-- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
I'm not seeing "<" or ">" on the buttons. -David On Feb 20, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Kornel Benko mailto:kor...@lyx.org>> wrote: Am Sat, 20 Feb 2021 19:53:20 + schrieb David Pesetsky mailto:pese...@mit.edu>>: Trying it out on 2.4.0 Alpha 3, it seems to work very well now, thank you again. But I am seeing two "Find" and two "Replace" buttons. Not a functionality problem — they both work — but presumably some kind of error. You mean probably ' < Find ' and ' Find > ' (means find backward and find forward) Same for 'replace' -David On Feb 12, 2021, at 10:24 AM, David Pesetsky mailto:pese...@mit.edu><mailto:pese...@mit.edu>> wrote: Pleased indeed, thank you!!! On Feb 12, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller mailto:sp...@lyx.org><mailto:sp...@lyx.org>> wrote: Am Freitag, dem 12.02.2021 um 14:53 + schrieb David Pesetsky: If you click on the document window, the "find next" key (⌘-G ) will do its job and get you to the next occurrence of the search string. Without that, however, if focus remains in the Find window, nothing happens at all. That is what is non-intuitive. In most other apps, You can search for what you want with ⌘-F, and then simply pressing ⌘-G gets you the next occurrence, with no other steps necessary. You might be pleased to hear that your message inspired me to go ahead and fix that for 2.4.0 this morning. Jürgen Kornel -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org<mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users -- David Pesetsky [pese...@mit.edu<mailto:pese...@mit.edu>] Department of Linguistics and Philosophy 32-D862 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 77 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02139 USA (617) 253-0957 office (617) 253-5017 fax http://web.mit.edu/linguistics/www/pesetsky.home.html -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
Am Sat, 20 Feb 2021 19:53:20 + schrieb David Pesetsky : > Trying it out on 2.4.0 Alpha 3, it seems to work very well now, thank you > again. But I > am seeing two "Find" and two "Replace" buttons. Not a functionality problem > — they > both work — but presumably some kind of error. You mean probably ' < Find ' and ' Find > ' (means find backward and find forward) Same for 'replace' > -David > > On Feb 12, 2021, at 10:24 AM, David Pesetsky > mailto:pese...@mit.edu>> > wrote: > > Pleased indeed, thank you!!! > > On Feb 12, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller > mailto:sp...@lyx.org>> > wrote: > > Am Freitag, dem 12.02.2021 um 14:53 + schrieb David Pesetsky: > If you click on the document window, the "find next" key (⌘-G ) will > do its job and get you to the next occurrence of the search string. > Without that, however, if focus remains in the Find window, nothing > happens at all. That is what is non-intuitive. In most other apps, > You can search for what you want with ⌘-F, and then simply pressing > ⌘-G gets you the next occurrence, with no other steps necessary. > > You might be pleased to hear that your message inspired me to go ahead > and fix that for 2.4.0 this morning. > > Jürgen > Kornel pgp4dYdNbSm0y.pgp Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
Trying it out on 2.4.0 Alpha 3, it seems to work very well now, thank you again. But I am seeing two "Find" and two "Replace" buttons. Not a functionality problem — they both work — but presumably some kind of error. -David On Feb 12, 2021, at 10:24 AM, David Pesetsky mailto:pese...@mit.edu>> wrote: Pleased indeed, thank you!!! On Feb 12, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller mailto:sp...@lyx.org>> wrote: Am Freitag, dem 12.02.2021 um 14:53 + schrieb David Pesetsky: If you click on the document window, the "find next" key (⌘-G ) will do its job and get you to the next occurrence of the search string. Without that, however, if focus remains in the Find window, nothing happens at all. That is what is non-intuitive. In most other apps, You can search for what you want with ⌘-F, and then simply pressing ⌘-G gets you the next occurrence, with no other steps necessary. You might be pleased to hear that your message inspired me to go ahead and fix that for 2.4.0 this morning. Jürgen -- David Pesetsky [pese...@mit.edu<mailto:pese...@mit.edu>] Department of Linguistics and Philosophy 32-D862 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 77 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02139 USA (617) 253-0957 office (617) 253-5017 fax http://web.mit.edu/linguistics/www/pesetsky.home.html -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
As I posted, I get the same, and I most certainly did all the steps, it did find the string in thw window and with the "Find-Next" but not with CMD-G frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (1603): cmd: action: 241 [word-find] arg: 'ermany 0 0 1' x: 0 y: 0 BufferView.cpp (1261): BufferView::dispatch: cmd: action: 241 [word-find] arg: 'ermany 0 0 1' x: 0 y: 0 frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (1384): dispatch msg is frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (1603): cmd: action: 241 [word-find] arg: 'ermany 0 0 1' x: 0 y: 0 BufferView.cpp (1261): BufferView::dispatch: cmd: action: 241 [word-find] arg: 'ermany 0 0 1' x: 0 y: 0 frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (1384): dispatch msg is Cursor.cpp (293): Cursor::dispatch: cmd: action: 206 [] arg: '' x: 795 y: 320 cursor:| anchor: inset: 0x7fba9aad3bd0 idx: 0 par: 155 pos: 32 | inset: 0x7fba9aad3bd0 idx: 0 par: 155 pos: 32 selection: 1 boundary: 0 insets/InsetText.cpp (291): InsetText::doDispatch(): cmd: action: 206 [] arg: '' x: 795 y: 320 Text3.cpp (584): Text::dispatch: cmd: action: 206 [] arg: '' x: 795 y: 320 Cursor.cpp (293): Cursor::dispatch: cmd: action: 208 [] arg: '' x: 795 y: 320 cursor:| anchor: inset: 0x7fba9aad3bd0 idx: 0 par: 155 pos: 32 | inset: 0x7fba9aad3bd0 idx: 0 par: 155 pos: 32 selection: 0 boundary: 0 insets/InsetText.cpp (291): InsetText::doDispatch(): cmd: action: 208 [] arg: '' x: 795 y: 320 Text3.cpp (584): Text::dispatch: cmd: action: 208 [] arg: '' x: 795 y: 320 frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (1603): cmd: action: 169 [word-find-forward] arg: '' x: 0 y: 0 BufferView.cpp (1261): BufferView::dispatch: cmd: action: 169 [word-find-forward] arg: '' x: 0 y: 0 frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (1384): dispatch msg is frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (1603): cmd: action: 9 [lyx-quit] arg: '' x: 0 y: 0 On 2021-02-14 09:48 , Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Samstag, dem 13.02.2021 um 18:08 +0100 schrieb Daniel: >> frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (1603): cmd: action: 169 >> [word-find-forward] arg: '' x: 0 y: 0 > > This indicates that there is no search string in the cache. Did you > really do step 3 in my recipe? > > Jürgen > > -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
Statusbar shows nothing. /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx -dbg action shows frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (1603): cmd: action: 169 [word-find-forward] arg: '' x: 0 y: 0 BufferView.cpp (1261): BufferView::dispatch: cmd: action: 169 [word-find-forward] arg: '' x: 0 y: 0 frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (1384): dispatch msg is greetings, el On 2021-02-13 18:50 , Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Samstag, dem 13.02.2021 um 17:43 +0100 schrieb Daniel: >> Seems not to work here either. > > What does the statusbar show if you hit ⌘-G? Also, can you check for > "action" dbg messages? > > Jürgen > > -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
Yes hundreds of times for man years. On the Mac Ctrl-F does not work, it is CMD-F el On 2021-02-13 18:07 , Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Samstag, dem 13.02.2021 um 18:03 +0200 schrieb Dr Eberhard W Lisse: >> Makes no difference here. > > Just to be sure, did you really try this? > > 1. Ctrl-F > 2. Enter search string > 3. Hit Enter to find first occurrence > 4. Click into workarea OR close dialog > 5. Hit ⌘-G to find next occurrences > > Jürgen > > -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
Am Samstag, dem 13.02.2021 um 18:08 +0100 schrieb Daniel: > frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (1603): cmd: action: 169 > [word-find-forward] arg: '' x: 0 y: 0 This indicates that there is no search string in the cache. Did you really do step 3 in my recipe? Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 8:20 AM Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > On 2/12/21 7:43 PM, Joel Kulesza wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 8:24 AM David Pesetsky wrote: > >> Pleased indeed, thank you!!! >> >> On Feb 12, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: >> >> Am Freitag, dem 12.02.2021 um 14:53 + schrieb David Pesetsky: >> >> If you click on the document window, the "find next" key (⌘-G ) will >> do its job and get you to the next occurrence of the search string. >> Without that, however, if focus remains in the Find window, nothing >> happens at all. That is what is non-intuitive. In most other apps, >> You can search for what you want with ⌘-F, and then simply pressing >> ⌘-G gets you the next occurrence, with no other steps necessary. >> >> >> You might be pleased to hear that your message inspired me to go ahead >> and fix that for 2.4.0 this morning. >> >> Jürgen >> >> Seconding David's remarks. I'm pleased indeed and just tested with > master at 400cb1b. I look forward to a rebinding of F3 -> Cmd-G, but until > then, this is still a welcome step forward. > > It should already be like that on OSX, if you are using mac.bind. > Sorry, I thought I saw separate traffic that this was yet to come. I've never actually switched that on any OS I've used LyX on. But, yes, Cmd-G with mac.bind works as expected. Thanks, Joel -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
On 2021-02-13 17:50, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Samstag, dem 13.02.2021 um 17:43 +0100 schrieb Daniel: Seems not to work here either. What does the statusbar show if you hit ⌘-G? Also, can you check for "action" dbg messages? Jürgen No status bar message. When I select "action" in the progress dock settings, I get frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (1603): cmd: action: 169 [word-find-forward] arg: '' x: 0 y: 0 BufferView.cpp (1261): BufferView::dispatch: cmd: action: 169 [word-find-forward] arg: '' x: 0 y: 0 frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (1384): dispatch msg is Daniel -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
Am Samstag, dem 13.02.2021 um 17:43 +0100 schrieb Daniel: > Seems not to work here either. What does the statusbar show if you hit ⌘-G? Also, can you check for "action" dbg messages? Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
On 2021-02-13 17:07, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Samstag, dem 13.02.2021 um 18:03 +0200 schrieb Dr Eberhard W Lisse: Makes no difference here. Just to be sure, did you really try this? 1. Ctrl-F 2. Enter search string 3. Hit Enter to find first occurrence 4. Click into workarea OR close dialog 5. Hit ⌘-G to find next occurrences Jürgen Seems not to work here either. Daniel -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
Am Samstag, dem 13.02.2021 um 18:03 +0200 schrieb Dr Eberhard W Lisse: > Makes no difference here. Just to be sure, did you really try this? 1. Ctrl-F 2. Enter search string 3. Hit Enter to find first occurrence 4. Click into workarea OR close dialog 5. Hit ⌘-G to find next occurrences Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
Makes no difference here. Mac 11.2.1 and LyX 2.3.6.2 with mac.bind having \bind "C-g" "word-find-forward" The Preferences -> shortcut shows same bound to ⌘-G and my user.bind shows nothing. F3 and Shift-F3 (on my MacBook with Strip) shows 'Unknown Function' but no name of that unknow function. Where else can I look? On 2021-02-12 10:10 , Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Am Freitag, dem 12.02.2021 um 08:35 +0200 schrieb Dr Eberhard W Lisse: >> I can also confirm that CMD-G is bound to word-find-forward in >> 2.3.6.2 and (that non working of if) has been irritating me on >> all of my Macs for at least 5 but maybe even 10 years. >> >> Does one of the (Core-) Developers have a Mac? > > https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/11170 > > Here, F3 does work, but only if I gave the workarea focus, which is not > so apparent if you use the dialog. The working procedure is: > > 1. Ctrl-F > 2. Enter search string > 3. Hit Enter to fin first occurrence > 4. Click into workarea OR close dialog > 5. Hit F3 to find next occurrences > > I suspect 4. is the crucial missing step. > > I'll check if we can do something to avoid this unintuive extra step. > > Jürgen > > -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
On 2/12/21 7:43 PM, Joel Kulesza wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 8:24 AM David Pesetsky <mailto:pese...@mit.edu>> wrote: > > Pleased indeed, thank you!!! > >> On Feb 12, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller > <mailto:sp...@lyx.org>> wrote: >> >> Am Freitag, dem 12.02.2021 um 14:53 + schrieb David Pesetsky: >>> If you click on the document window, the "find next" key (⌘-G ) will >>> do its job and get you to the next occurrence of the search string. >>> Without that, however, if focus remains in the Find window, nothing >>> happens at all. That is what is non-intuitive. In most other apps, >>> You can search for what you want with ⌘-F, and then simply pressing >>> ⌘-G gets you the next occurrence, with no other steps necessary. >> >> You might be pleased to hear that your message inspired me to go >> ahead >> and fix that for 2.4.0 this morning. >> >> Jürgen > > Seconding David's remarks. I'm pleased indeed and just tested with > master at 400cb1b. I look forward to a rebinding of F3 -> Cmd-G, but > until then, this is still a welcome step forward. It should already be like that on OSX, if you are using mac.bind. Riki -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 8:24 AM David Pesetsky wrote: > Pleased indeed, thank you!!! > > On Feb 12, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > Am Freitag, dem 12.02.2021 um 14:53 + schrieb David Pesetsky: > > If you click on the document window, the "find next" key (⌘-G ) will > do its job and get you to the next occurrence of the search string. > Without that, however, if focus remains in the Find window, nothing > happens at all. That is what is non-intuitive. In most other apps, > You can search for what you want with ⌘-F, and then simply pressing > ⌘-G gets you the next occurrence, with no other steps necessary. > > > You might be pleased to hear that your message inspired me to go ahead > and fix that for 2.4.0 this morning. > > Jürgen > > Seconding David's remarks. I'm pleased indeed and just tested with master at 400cb1b. I look forward to a rebinding of F3 -> Cmd-G, but until then, this is still a welcome step forward. Thank you, Joel -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
Pleased indeed, thank you!!! On Feb 12, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller mailto:sp...@lyx.org>> wrote: Am Freitag, dem 12.02.2021 um 14:53 + schrieb David Pesetsky: If you click on the document window, the "find next" key (⌘-G ) will do its job and get you to the next occurrence of the search string. Without that, however, if focus remains in the Find window, nothing happens at all. That is what is non-intuitive. In most other apps, You can search for what you want with ⌘-F, and then simply pressing ⌘-G gets you the next occurrence, with no other steps necessary. You might be pleased to hear that your message inspired me to go ahead and fix that for 2.4.0 this morning. Jürgen -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
Am Freitag, dem 12.02.2021 um 14:53 + schrieb David Pesetsky: > If you click on the document window, the "find next" key (⌘-G ) will > do its job and get you to the next occurrence of the search string. > Without that, however, if focus remains in the Find window, nothing > happens at all. That is what is non-intuitive. In most other apps, > You can search for what you want with ⌘-F, and then simply pressing > ⌘-G gets you the next occurrence, with no other steps necessary. You might be pleased to hear that your message inspired me to go ahead and fix that for 2.4.0 this morning. Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
I really appreciate all the replies. Jürgen's message is exactly what I discovered with more tinkering. If you click on the document window, the "find next" key (⌘-G ) will do its job and get you to the next occurrence of the search string. Without that, however, if focus remains in the Find window, nothing happens at all. That is what is non-intuitive. In most other apps, You can search for what you want with ⌘-F, and then simply pressing ⌘-G gets you the next occurrence, with no other steps necessary. -David https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/11170 Here, F3 does work, but only if I gave the workarea focus, which is not so apparent if you use the dialog. The working procedure is: 1. Ctrl-F 2. Enter search string 3. Hit Enter to fin first occurrence 4. Click into workarea OR close dialog 5. Hit F3 to find next occurrences I suspect 4. is the crucial missing step. I'll check if we can do something to avoid this unintuive extra step. Jürgen -- David Pesetsky [pese...@mit.edu<mailto:pese...@mit.edu>] Department of Linguistics and Philosophy 32-D862 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 77 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02139 USA (617) 253-0957 office (617) 253-5017 fax http://web.mit.edu/linguistics/www/pesetsky.home.html -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
> On Feb 11, 2021, at 5:28 PM, David Pesetsky wrote: > > My Macintosh-educated fingers are used to ⌘-G for "find next" (used after > using ⌘-F for "find"). Does Lyx have a "find next" function so I can > duplicate this? > > I may be missing something in plain view, in which case, my apologies for > wasting everyone's time — but I'm not finding it. > > -David This has been a problem for many years. There is a long-standing ticket by me to bring search into Mac-compliance. For Mac fingers the LyX situation is extremely awkward. Here’s the Mac process: **First Way** open find dialog with Command-F type or paste search string close file dialog or bring focus to main window hit Command-G to search forward or Shift-Command-G to search backward. **Second Way** open find dialog with Command-F type or paste search string Hit Next or Previous button [LyX does not have Next and Previous but rather forces you to do additional clicking in the dialog to change direction.] **Third Way** [This is the “modern” way in many apps which does not raise a separate dialog box but rather opens a very small non-overlapping pane in the document window.] open find dialog with Command-F type or paste search string hit Command-G to search forward or Shift-Command-G to search backward. **Fourth Way** [This does not require you to even open a dialog box if the search string can be highlighted in the main window.] select search string in main window hit Command-E. This enters the selected text into the search buffer. hit Command-G to search forward or Shift-Command-G to search backward. Fourth Way is probably the most common. Notice that you don’t even open a search window. There are other problems in LyX searching. 1. The Find dialog box does not remember its location between uses. I’m sure this is a regression going back a number of years. 2. The “found” result can be _hidden_behind_ the Find dialog. Lots of luck finding it. 3. LyX is unaware of the system clipboard. In normal Mac apps, you can hit Command-E in one app, then switch to another app and the search string is ready to be used for finding in the second app without further user effort. This includes immediate use of Command-G and Shift-Command-G. Jerry -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
Am Freitag, dem 12.02.2021 um 08:35 +0200 schrieb Dr Eberhard W Lisse: > I can also confirm that CMD-G is bound to word-find-forward in > 2.3.6.2 and (that non working of if) has been irritating me on > all of my Macs for at least 5 but maybe even 10 years. > > Does one of the (Core-) Developers have a Mac? https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/11170 Here, F3 does work, but only if I gave the workarea focus, which is not so apparent if you use the dialog. The working procedure is: 1. Ctrl-F 2. Enter search string 3. Hit Enter to fin first occurrence 4. Click into workarea OR close dialog 5. Hit F3 to find next occurrences I suspect 4. is the crucial missing step. I'll check if we can do something to avoid this unintuive extra step. Jürgen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
I can also confirm that CMD-G is bound to word-find-forward in 2.3.6.2 and (that non working of if) has been irritating me on all of my Macs for at least 5 but maybe even 10 years. Does one of the (Core-) Developers have a Mac? el On 2021-02-12 04:39 , Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > On 2/11/21 9:38 PM, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: >> On 2/11/21 8:21 PM, Paul A. Rubin wrote: [...] >> In mac.bind, we have: >> >> # +: "Command-G" # Find the next occurrence of the >> selection >> \bind "C-g" "word-find-forward" >> >> So that should work as you expect, David. I take it that it does not work? >> >> If you open Tools> Preferences> Editing> Shortcuts and type "word-find" >> in the "show key-bindings containing" field, what do you get? > > PS On non-Mac systems, F3 is meant to do this. > > Riki > > -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
On 2/11/21 9:38 PM, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > On 2/11/21 8:21 PM, Paul A. Rubin wrote: >> On 2/11/21 7:28 PM, David Pesetsky wrote: >>> My Macintosh-educated fingers are used to ⌘-G for "find next" (used >>> after using ⌘-F for "find"). Does Lyx have a "find next" function so >>> I can duplicate this? >>> >>> I may be missing something in plain view, in which case, my apologies >>> for wasting everyone's time — but I'm not finding it. >>> >>> -David >> Cmd-F opens a dialog that stays open while you are searching. With >> open, alt+N will do "find next" (as will clicking the Find Next button >> in the dialog. >> >> If you want to repeat your last find operation after the dialog has >> been closed, there is an LFUN that will do it: word-find. It takes an >> argument (the search target), but if you omit the argument it repeats >> the last find. Assuming cmd-G is not bound to anything useful in your >> setup, you could bind it to word-find. > In mac.bind, we have: > > # +: "Command-G" # Find the next occurrence of the > selection > \bind "C-g" "word-find-forward" > > So that should work as you expect, David. I take it that it does not work? > > If you open Tools> Preferences> Editing> Shortcuts and type "word-find" > in the "show key-bindings containing" field, what do you get? PS On non-Mac systems, F3 is meant to do this. Riki -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
On 2/11/21 8:21 PM, Paul A. Rubin wrote: > On 2/11/21 7:28 PM, David Pesetsky wrote: >> My Macintosh-educated fingers are used to ⌘-G for "find next" (used >> after using ⌘-F for "find"). Does Lyx have a "find next" function so >> I can duplicate this? >> >> I may be missing something in plain view, in which case, my apologies >> for wasting everyone's time — but I'm not finding it. >> >> -David > Cmd-F opens a dialog that stays open while you are searching. With > open, alt+N will do "find next" (as will clicking the Find Next button > in the dialog. > > If you want to repeat your last find operation after the dialog has > been closed, there is an LFUN that will do it: word-find. It takes an > argument (the search target), but if you omit the argument it repeats > the last find. Assuming cmd-G is not bound to anything useful in your > setup, you could bind it to word-find. In mac.bind, we have: # +: "Command-G" # Find the next occurrence of the selection \bind "C-g" "word-find-forward" So that should work as you expect, David. I take it that it does not work? If you open Tools> Preferences> Editing> Shortcuts and type "word-find" in the "show key-bindings containing" field, what do you get? Riki -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: find next?
On 2/11/21 7:28 PM, David Pesetsky wrote: My Macintosh-educated fingers are used to ⌘-G for "find next" (used after using ⌘-F for "find"). Does Lyx have a "find next" function so I can duplicate this? I may be missing something in plain view, in which case, my apologies for wasting everyone's time — but I'm not finding it. -David Cmd-F opens a dialog that stays open while you are searching. With open, alt+N will do "find next" (as will clicking the Find Next button in the dialog. If you want to repeat your last find operation after the dialog has been closed, there is an LFUN that will do it: word-find. It takes an argument (the search target), but if you omit the argument it repeats the last find. Assuming cmd-G is not bound to anything useful in your setup, you could bind it to word-find. Paul -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
find next?
My Macintosh-educated fingers are used to ⌘-G for "find next" (used after using ⌘-F for "find"). Does Lyx have a "find next" function so I can duplicate this? I may be missing something in plain view, in which case, my apologies for wasting everyone's time — but I'm not finding it. -David -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: spellchecker keybindings {Find next, Ignore & aDd} conflict with {File, Insert & Document}
It would appear that on Sep 2, Scott Kostyshak did say: > On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 09:52:13PM -0400, Joe Philbrook wrote: > > > > Ticket #10357 (new enhancement) > > > > How did I do? > > Looks good! I removed the keywords since we use a fixed set, which is > described here: > http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/TicketKeywords > > I also categorized the bug as "dialogs". Thanks for making it more presentable... > By the way, do you have any experience programming and could perhaps > propose a patch if we decide what direction we want to go on this? Not unless bash scripting counts. > Thanks for making the ticket. It was actually much easier to do than I expected. -- Joe
Re: spellchecker keybindings {Find next, Ignore & aDd} conflict with {File, Insert & Document}
On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 09:52:13PM -0400, Joe Philbrook wrote: > > It would appear that on Aug 31, Scott Kostyshak did say: > > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 07:39:34PM -0400, Joe Philbrook wrote: > > > > > Please tell me that I'm not looking at (3 x 3 = 9) nine trac tickets > > > here... > > > > Good point. I don't have general advice on what topics should be > > grouped. If they are topics that shoudl be addressed all at once and it > > would be silly to address one and not the other, then I think such a > > group of issues should be in one ticket. Just make your best guess. > > Ticket #10357 (new enhancement) > > How did I do? Looks good! I removed the keywords since we use a fixed set, which is described here: http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki/TicketKeywords I also categorized the bug as "dialogs". By the way, do you have any experience programming and could perhaps propose a patch if we decide what direction we want to go on this? Thanks for making the ticket. Scott signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: spellchecker keybindings {Find next, Ignore & aDd} conflict with {File, Insert & Document}
It would appear that on Aug 31, Scott Kostyshak did say: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 07:39:34PM -0400, Joe Philbrook wrote: > > > Please tell me that I'm not looking at (3 x 3 = 9) nine trac tickets here... > > Good point. I don't have general advice on what topics should be > grouped. If they are topics that shoudl be addressed all at once and it > would be silly to address one and not the other, then I think such a > group of issues should be in one ticket. Just make your best guess. Ticket #10357 (new enhancement) How did I do? -- Joe
Re: spellchecker keybindings {Find next, Ignore & aDd} conflict with {File, Insert & Document}
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 07:39:34PM -0400, Joe Philbrook wrote: > Please tell me that I'm not looking at (3 x 3 = 9) nine trac tickets here... Good point. I don't have general advice on what topics should be grouped. If they are topics that shoudl be addressed all at once and it would be silly to address one and not the other, then I think such a group of issues should be in one ticket. Just make your best guess. Scott signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: spellchecker keybindings {Find next, Ignore & aDd} conflict with {File, Insert & Document}
It would appear that on Aug 31, Scott Kostyshak did say:
> Hi Joe,
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 05:22:43PM -0400, Joe Philbrook wrote:
> >
> > Hi, First let me say I'm addicted to LyX for composing almost anything I
> > care about.
> > It helps keep me from fat fingering multiple spaces between words etc...
> > And lets me set screen
> > font sizes I can see without my reading glasses even when the targeted
> > output font sizes are
> > too small for my eyes WITH the glasses... The list goes on and on... Thanks!
>
> Thanks for the kind feedback!
>
Your most welcome.
==
> > When I use the spellchecker in LyX and the word I'm looking for is in the
> > sUggestions list I'm
> > very happy cause there is no conflict for the {alt}+{u} shortcut that lets
> > me use the cursor
> > keys to select it and {Enter} to apply the spelling correction.
> >
> > But if I need to tell it to ignore an instance where a character in a story
> > is being quoted as
> > saying something not in the dictionary lists {Think Homer Simpson saying
> > "Doh"} That I may want
> > to Ignore. Or perhaps I wanted to use an unusual word such as hisself
> > instead of himself
> > because it's "In character" for the character being quoted and wish to aDd
> > it to my word list.
> > And while I never use it, the same problem exists for the "Find next"
> > button.
> > So I was hoping there was a way to selectively change the keybindings on
> > those buttons to
> > something that doesn't conflict with the menu bar bindings.
==
> If I understand correctly, there is no way to customize the buttons from
> user text files. But the changes you suggest seem useful more generally
> so perhaps we could incorporate them into LyX by default.
>
> You could make a request for us to make changes at
> http://www.lyx.org/trac
>
> If you have multiple suggestions, please make separate trac tickets
> (although feel free to reference each other).
OK, This would be worth the effort. Hopefully I can write such a request clearly
enough...
Though I'm not sure if you mean incorporate different "preset shortcuts" for
these
buttons, or to incorporate a method for the user to select the shortcuts they
prefer.
Those users who would find this most useful would be the ones who, for one
reason or
another, avoid using the mouse. They, like me, would tend to collect a lot of
personal keyboard shortcuts. And it would be nice to know that I could keep the
new ones
from conflicting with any of the "global" keybindings in my
~/.config/openbox/rc.xml...
Though admittedly, in my case, if they consist of just {alt}+{almost any single
key}
I wouldn't have such a conflict because most of my global shortcuts require at
least
two modifier keys.
It also occurs to me that there might be a way to simply cause those
spellchecker
button's keybindings to preempt the ones in the menu bar while the spellchecker
is
active. Not being a programmer {aside from bash scripts} I wouldn't know which
of
those three possible fixes is more practical to implement.
Nor am I certain that three different suggested solutions to the SAME problem
would
require three separate trac tickets??
Also I'd like to think that it would be OK to put all three of the affected
spellchecker
buttons on the same ticket??
Please tell me that I'm not looking at (3 x 3 = 9) nine trac tickets here...
--
Joe Philbrook (:-0%
Re: spellchecker keybindings {Find next, Ignore & aDd} conflict with {File, Insert & Document}
Hi Joe,
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 05:22:43PM -0400, Joe Philbrook wrote:
>
> Hi, First let me say I'm addicted to LyX for composing almost anything I care
> about.
> It helps keep me from fat fingering multiple spaces between words etc... And
> lets me set screen
> font sizes I can see without my reading glasses even when the targeted output
> font sizes are
> too small for my eyes WITH the glasses... The list goes on and on... Thanks!
Thanks for the kind feedback!
> However my problem with the spellchecker dialog's keybindings have More to do
> with my
> own dexterity issues that have always made using the mouse difficult at best.
> And with carpel
> tunnel issues that often make mouse based methods painful. {Don't know why
> I'm able to keyboard
> for hours before my hands go numb, but the mouse can do it in just a few
> minutes. But the
> result is I'm addicted to keyboard shortcuts and keyboard accessible menu
> based methods.
>
> When I use the spellchecker in LyX and the word I'm looking for is in the
> sUggestions list I'm
> very happy cause there is no conflict for the {alt}+{u} shortcut that lets me
> use the cursor
> keys to select it and {Enter} to apply the spelling correction.
>
> But if I need to tell it to ignore an instance where a character in a story
> is being quoted as
> saying something not in the dictionary lists {Think Homer Simpson saying
> "Doh"} That I may want
> to Ignore. Or perhaps I wanted to use an unusual word such as hisself instead
> of himself
> because it's "In character" for the character being quoted and wish to aDd it
> to my word list.
> And while I never use it, the same problem exists for the "Find next" button.
>
> Lately my problems with mouse operation have been getting worse:
>
> It can take me over a minute to maneuver the "dag nabbed" rodent pointing
> device over the correct
> "durned" button... And the button keybindings indicated by the underscored
> character on the
> button label (AKA: {alt}+{f}, {alt}+{i} and {alt}+{d}) instead activate the
> File, Insert or
> Document menu choices... {sigh}
>
> So I was hoping there was a way to selectively change the keybindings on
> those buttons to
> something that doesn't conflict with the menu bar bindings.
>
> I use the standard user interface with the cua bind file.
>
> I've looked in Tools > Preferences > shortcuts and the only spellchecker
> related shortcut I can
> find is the {F7} to start the spellchecking function {which I do NOT want to
> change}
>
> Even though more advanced methods {if any} of modifying LyX's keybindings are
> beyond my
> understanding, I've looked for clues in Help > LyX Functions, Help >
> Shortcuts without
> finding anything that looks like the add word or ignore word spellchecker
> button functions to me.
>
> I also did a less /usr/share/lyx/bind/cua.bind
>
> But I didn't see anything that looked like it there either.
If I understand correctly, there is no way to customize the buttons from
user text files. But the changes you suggest seem useful more generally
so perhaps we could incorporate them into LyX by default.
You could make a request for us to make changes at
http://www.lyx.org/trac
If you have multiple suggestions, please make separate trac tickets
(although feel free to reference each other).
Scott
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spellchecker keybindings {Find next, Ignore & aDd} conflict with {File, Insert & Document}
Hi, First let me say I'm addicted to LyX for composing almost anything I care
about.
It helps keep me from fat fingering multiple spaces between words etc... And
lets me set screen
font sizes I can see without my reading glasses even when the targeted output
font sizes are
too small for my eyes WITH the glasses... The list goes on and on... Thanks!
However my problem with the spellchecker dialog's keybindings have More to do
with my
own dexterity issues that have always made using the mouse difficult at best.
And with carpel
tunnel issues that often make mouse based methods painful. {Don't know why I'm
able to keyboard
for hours before my hands go numb, but the mouse can do it in just a few
minutes. But the
result is I'm addicted to keyboard shortcuts and keyboard accessible menu based
methods.
When I use the spellchecker in LyX and the word I'm looking for is in the
sUggestions list I'm
very happy cause there is no conflict for the {alt}+{u} shortcut that lets me
use the cursor
keys to select it and {Enter} to apply the spelling correction.
But if I need to tell it to ignore an instance where a character in a story is
being quoted as
saying something not in the dictionary lists {Think Homer Simpson saying "Doh"}
That I may want
to Ignore. Or perhaps I wanted to use an unusual word such as hisself instead
of himself
because it's "In character" for the character being quoted and wish to aDd it
to my word list.
And while I never use it, the same problem exists for the "Find next" button.
Lately my problems with mouse operation have been getting worse:
It can take me over a minute to maneuver the "dag nabbed" rodent pointing
device over the correct
"durned" button... And the button keybindings indicated by the underscored
character on the
button label (AKA: {alt}+{f}, {alt}+{i} and {alt}+{d}) instead activate the
File, Insert or
Document menu choices... {sigh}
So I was hoping there was a way to selectively change the keybindings on those
buttons to
something that doesn't conflict with the menu bar bindings.
I use the standard user interface with the cua bind file.
I've looked in Tools > Preferences > shortcuts and the only spellchecker
related shortcut I can
find is the {F7} to start the spellchecking function {which I do NOT want to
change}
Even though more advanced methods {if any} of modifying LyX's keybindings are
beyond my
understanding, I've looked for clues in Help > LyX Functions, Help > Shortcuts
without
finding anything that looks like the add word or ignore word spellchecker
button functions to me.
I also did a less /usr/share/lyx/bind/cua.bind
But I didn't see anything that looked like it there either.
I probably should mention that I multi-boot three different Linux distros that
share the
same data partition with whichever version of LyX is in their repos. Only one
of them
is bleeding edge enough to have lyx 2.2.x The other 2 have LyX 2.1.x. And since
one of
the reasons I multi-boot is I've been known to to bork an installed Linux so
bad that it can
take me weeks to get X running again and it's such a pain to remember to
lyx2lyx the updated
*.lyx back to lyxformat 474 {while hoping I didn't accidentally use some new
feature that
doesn't convert back cleanly} THEN until either Mageia or Opensuse add LyX
2.2.x to their repos
I'll avoid using LyX in my rolling release antiX installation in favor of the
LyX 2.1.x
installed to my Mageia Linux or my Opensuse Leap Linux installations.
Usually Opensuse Leap where it's currently LyX 2.1.5...
Is there a reliable way to "push" those buttons with the
keyboard
I don't know if it matters but a LONG time ago I selected to run the
spellchecker in the
{docked?} sidebar instead of free floating because I need to actually see the
context to for
example notice if it's Homer saying "Doh" or an actual typo, and using the
mouse to move the
floating spellchecker dialog out of the way is even more difficult than getting
the {expletive
deleted} rodent to point at the button long enough for my hands to click on
it...
Thanks
--
Joe Philbrook <jtw...@gmx.com> (:-0%
