Re: graphical float placements

[James Sutherland]

Try using Inset - Formatting - Clear Page, which will dump all floats and
get LaTeX out of its confused state.

​James
​


On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:57 PM, fmsal...@virginmedia.com 
fmsal...@virginmedia.com wrote:

 Stephan Buonopane wrote:

 |  If you want full manual control of float placement, go to
 |  Edit - Float Settings - Here Definitely
 |  There are other options there as well.

  Thanks for your help but I have examined the manual and the
 experiences I am trying to discuss do not match the description there.

 I believe that the movement to the end and then after many editing
 actions, the return to the locations I had set previously, using the
 graphical interface provided,  demonstrates the problem experienced.  I had
 also tried to set the location in the manner you suggested but this had
 also failed to produce the intended effect.

 Regards
  Frank Salter

Re: graphical float placements

[James Sutherland]

Try using Inset - Formatting - Clear Page, which will dump all floats and
get LaTeX out of its confused state.

​James
​


On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:57 PM, fmsal...@virginmedia.com 
fmsal...@virginmedia.com wrote:

 Stephan Buonopane wrote:

 |  If you want full manual control of float placement, go to
 |  Edit - Float Settings - Here Definitely
 |  There are other options there as well.

  Thanks for your help but I have examined the manual and the
 experiences I am trying to discuss do not match the description there.

 I believe that the movement to the end and then after many editing
 actions, the return to the locations I had set previously, using the
 graphical interface provided,  demonstrates the problem experienced.  I had
 also tried to set the location in the manner you suggested but this had
 also failed to produce the intended effect.

 Regards
  Frank Salter

Re: graphical float placements

[James Sutherland]

Try using Inset -> Formatting -> Clear Page, which will dump all floats and
get LaTeX out of its confused state.

​James
​


On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:57 PM, fmsal...@virginmedia.com <
fmsal...@virginmedia.com> wrote:

> Stephan Buonopane wrote:
>
> |  If you want full manual control of float placement, go to
> |  Edit -> Float Settings -> Here Definitely
> |  There are other options there as well.
>
>  Thanks for your help but I have examined the manual and the
> experiences I am trying to discuss do not match the description there.
>
> I believe that the movement to the end and then after many editing
> actions, the return to the locations I had set previously, using the
> graphical interface provided,  demonstrates the problem experienced.  I had
> also tried to set the location in the manner you suggested but this had
> also failed to produce the intended effect.
>
> Regards
>  Frank Salter
>
>

graphical float placements

[fmsal...@virginmedia.com]

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as intended.  
Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of the document.  
Having accepted that I should continue preparation and leave the float 
problem to be resolved later, I continued work and left the floats 
alone. In adding more text, some before and some after the first float 
location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly reappeared at 
their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a bug 
report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

Re: graphical float placements

[Stephen Buonopane]

On Mar 25, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

 
 
 Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:
 Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and lyx.  
 TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..
 
I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of mathematics 
 using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic behaviour with the 
 placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png files.
 
At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing of the 
 plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   Also 
 apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I have not 
 been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.
 
At other times the floats are located within the text as intended.  Then 
 for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of the document.  Having 
 accepted that I should continue preparation and leave the float problem to 
 be resolved later, I continued work and left the floats alone. In adding 
 more text, some before and some after the first float location in the lyx 
 document, all the floats suddenly reappeared at their intended positions.
 
Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a bug 
 report but have no idea what to describe!
 
 Regards
 Frank Salter
 
 This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
 reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at the end 
 of the document.
 Wolfgang

If you want full manual control of float placement, go to
Edit - Float Settings - Here Definitely
There are other options there as well.

Re: graphical float placements

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as 
intended.  Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of 
the document.  Having accepted that I should continue preparation and 
leave the float problem to be resolved later, I continued work and 
left the floats alone. In adding more text, some before and some after 
the first float location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly 
reappeared at their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a 
bug report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at 
the end of the document.

Wolfgang

Re: graphical float placements

[fmsal...@virginmedia.com]

Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:
On 25/03/15 18:49, fmsal...@virginmedia.com wrote:

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as 
intended.  Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of 
the document.  Having accepted that I should continue preparation and 
leave the float problem to be resolved later, I continued work and 
left the floats alone. In adding more text, some before and some after 
the first float location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly 
reappeared at their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a 
bug report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at 
the end of the document.

Wolfgang

The above was copied from the archive page as I do not recivie emails on 
the list but monitort its content...   Indentation has disappeared!


Thanks for your suggestion but I appear not to have explained in 
sufficient detail the nature of the problem.


The text I was entering was on page 41 of 54.  The float had 
appeared in the final document towards the end even though I had tried 
to locate of the document in the region of the text discussing the content.
I work with three monitors and keep two kpdf outputs on one monitor 
and have lyx on another. Any changes are picked up automatically as I 
check the changes made.  There are 5 floats in total, four are at other 
places in the text.  All the floats had been located at the end and 
appeared to be stuck there.  The addition of further text produced the 
result that all the floats relocated with no attempt having been made to 
relocate them.  They had originally been interspersed within the text. 
They were suddenly transferred to the end and now they have returned.  
The floats are sized and dispersed in such a manner that they should be 
able to be located within a page with some text.
 This seems to exclude the possibility of their locations being 
controlled by the mechanism you have described.


Regards
Frank Salter

Re: graphical float placements

[fmsal...@virginmedia.com]

Stephan Buonopane wrote:

|  If you want full manual control of float placement, go to
|  Edit - Float Settings - Here Definitely
|  There are other options there as well.

 Thanks for your help but I have examined the manual and the 
experiences I am trying to discuss do not match the description there.


I believe that the movement to the end and then after many editing 
actions, the return to the locations I had set previously, using the 
graphical interface provided,  demonstrates the problem experienced.  I 
had also tried to set the location in the manner you suggested but this 
had also failed to produce the intended effect.


Regards
 Frank Salter

graphical float placements

[fmsal...@virginmedia.com]

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as intended.  
Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of the document.  
Having accepted that I should continue preparation and leave the float 
problem to be resolved later, I continued work and left the floats 
alone. In adding more text, some before and some after the first float 
location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly reappeared at 
their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a bug 
report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

Re: graphical float placements

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as 
intended.  Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of 
the document.  Having accepted that I should continue preparation and 
leave the float problem to be resolved later, I continued work and 
left the floats alone. In adding more text, some before and some after 
the first float location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly 
reappeared at their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a 
bug report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at 
the end of the document.

Wolfgang

Re: graphical float placements

[Stephen Buonopane]

On Mar 25, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

 
 
 Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:
 Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and lyx.  
 TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..
 
I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of mathematics 
 using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic behaviour with the 
 placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png files.
 
At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing of the 
 plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   Also 
 apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I have not 
 been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.
 
At other times the floats are located within the text as intended.  Then 
 for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of the document.  Having 
 accepted that I should continue preparation and leave the float problem to 
 be resolved later, I continued work and left the floats alone. In adding 
 more text, some before and some after the first float location in the lyx 
 document, all the floats suddenly reappeared at their intended positions.
 
Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a bug 
 report but have no idea what to describe!
 
 Regards
 Frank Salter
 
 This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
 reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at the end 
 of the document.
 Wolfgang

If you want full manual control of float placement, go to
Edit - Float Settings - Here Definitely
There are other options there as well.

Re: graphical float placements

[fmsal...@virginmedia.com]

Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:
On 25/03/15 18:49, fmsal...@virginmedia.com wrote:

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as 
intended.  Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of 
the document.  Having accepted that I should continue preparation and 
leave the float problem to be resolved later, I continued work and 
left the floats alone. In adding more text, some before and some after 
the first float location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly 
reappeared at their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a 
bug report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at 
the end of the document.

Wolfgang

The above was copied from the archive page as I do not recivie emails on 
the list but monitort its content...   Indentation has disappeared!


Thanks for your suggestion but I appear not to have explained in 
sufficient detail the nature of the problem.


The text I was entering was on page 41 of 54.  The float had 
appeared in the final document towards the end even though I had tried 
to locate of the document in the region of the text discussing the content.
I work with three monitors and keep two kpdf outputs on one monitor 
and have lyx on another. Any changes are picked up automatically as I 
check the changes made.  There are 5 floats in total, four are at other 
places in the text.  All the floats had been located at the end and 
appeared to be stuck there.  The addition of further text produced the 
result that all the floats relocated with no attempt having been made to 
relocate them.  They had originally been interspersed within the text. 
They were suddenly transferred to the end and now they have returned.  
The floats are sized and dispersed in such a manner that they should be 
able to be located within a page with some text.
 This seems to exclude the possibility of their locations being 
controlled by the mechanism you have described.


Regards
Frank Salter

Re: graphical float placements

[fmsal...@virginmedia.com]

Stephan Buonopane wrote:

|  If you want full manual control of float placement, go to
|  Edit - Float Settings - Here Definitely
|  There are other options there as well.

 Thanks for your help but I have examined the manual and the 
experiences I am trying to discuss do not match the description there.


I believe that the movement to the end and then after many editing 
actions, the return to the locations I had set previously, using the 
graphical interface provided,  demonstrates the problem experienced.  I 
had also tried to set the location in the manner you suggested but this 
had also failed to produce the intended effect.


Regards
 Frank Salter

graphical float placements

[fmsal...@virginmedia.com]

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as intended.  
Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of the document.  
Having accepted that I should continue preparation and leave the float 
problem to be resolved later, I continued work and left the floats 
alone. In adding more text, some before and some after the first float 
location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly reappeared at 
their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a bug 
report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

Re: graphical float placements

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as 
intended.  Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of 
the document.  Having accepted that I should continue preparation and 
leave the float problem to be resolved later, I continued work and 
left the floats alone. In adding more text, some before and some after 
the first float location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly 
reappeared at their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a 
bug report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at 
the end of the document.

Wolfgang

Re: graphical float placements

[Stephen Buonopane]

On Mar 25, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

> 
> 
> Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:
>> Hullo,
>>Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and lyx.  
>> TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..
>> 
>>I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of mathematics 
>> using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic behaviour with the 
>> placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png files.
>> 
>>At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing of the 
>> plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   Also 
>> apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I have not 
>> been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.
>> 
>>At other times the floats are located within the text as intended.  Then 
>> for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of the document.  Having 
>> accepted that I should continue preparation and leave the float problem to 
>> be resolved later, I continued work and left the floats alone. In adding 
>> more text, some before and some after the first float location in the lyx 
>> document, all the floats suddenly reappeared at their intended positions.
>> 
>>Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a bug 
>> report but have no idea what to describe!
>> 
>> Regards
>> Frank Salter
>> 
> This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
> reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at the end 
> of the document.
> Wolfgang

If you want full manual control of float placement, go to
Edit -> Float Settings -> Here Definitely
There are other options there as well.

Re: graphical float placements

[fmsal...@virginmedia.com]

Am 25.03.2015 um 19:49 schrieb fmsal...@virginmedia.com:
On 25/03/15 18:49, fmsal...@virginmedia.com wrote:

Hullo,
Using distribution openSUSE 13.2 but not the rpm's for tex and 
lyx.  TexLive 2014 installed and lyx 2.1.2 compiled locally..


I am writing a document of about 50 pages with many pages of 
mathematics using koma-script report.  I keep experiencing erratic 
behaviour with the placement of graphical floats. The graphics are png 
files.


At times some greying out of options for the placement and sizing 
of the plots occurs and at other times there are no problems at all.   
Also apparently an acceptable setting of alternatives are ignored!   I 
have not been able to observe any common factors in what I have done.


At other times the floats are located within the text as 
intended.  Then for no apparent reason they all appear at the end of 
the document.  Having accepted that I should continue preparation and 
leave the float problem to be resolved later, I continued work and 
left the floats alone. In adding more text, some before and some after 
the first float location in the lyx document, all the floats suddenly 
reappeared at their intended positions.


Has anyone experienced anything similar.  I feel I should add a 
bug report but have no idea what to describe!


Regards
Frank Salter

This is the result of adding more text. Latex tries to fit the floats at 
reasonable places, and if there is not enough text, it accumulates at 
the end of the document.

Wolfgang

The above was copied from the archive page as I do not recivie emails on 
the list but monitort its content...   Indentation has disappeared!


Thanks for your suggestion but I appear not to have explained in 
sufficient detail the nature of the problem.


The text I was entering was on page 41 of 54.  The float had 
appeared in the final document towards the end even though I had tried 
to locate of the document in the region of the text discussing the content.
I work with three monitors and keep two kpdf outputs on one monitor 
and have lyx on another. Any changes are picked up automatically as I 
check the changes made.  There are 5 floats in total, four are at other 
places in the text.  All the floats had been located at the end and 
appeared to be stuck there.  The addition of further text produced the 
result that all the floats relocated with no attempt having been made to 
relocate them.  They had originally been interspersed within the text. 
They were suddenly transferred to the end and now they have returned.  
The floats are sized and dispersed in such a manner that they should be 
able to be located within a page with some text.
 This seems to exclude the possibility of their locations being 
controlled by the mechanism you have described.


Regards
Frank Salter

Re: graphical float placements

[fmsal...@virginmedia.com]

Stephan Buonopane wrote:

|  If you want full manual control of float placement, go to
|  Edit -> Float Settings -> Here Definitely
|  There are other options there as well.

 Thanks for your help but I have examined the manual and the 
experiences I am trying to discuss do not match the description there.


I believe that the movement to the end and then after many editing 
actions, the return to the locations I had set previously, using the 
graphical interface provided,  demonstrates the problem experienced.  I 
had also tried to set the location in the manner you suggested but this 
had also failed to produce the intended effect.


Regards
 Frank Salter