Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[Helge Hafting]

icebna wrote:

What distribution you have ?


I use debian. Not the simplest to install, and not the prettiest.
But one of the easiest to keep going for a decade without reinstalling,
and one of the biggest collections of installable software.

Helge Hafting

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[Helge Hafting]

icebna wrote:

What distribution you have ?


I use debian. Not the simplest to install, and not the prettiest.
But one of the easiest to keep going for a decade without reinstalling,
and one of the biggest collections of installable software.

Helge Hafting

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[Helge Hafting]

icebna wrote:

What distribution you have ?


I use debian. Not the simplest to install, and not the prettiest.
But one of the easiest to keep going for a decade without reinstalling,
and one of the biggest collections of installable software.

Helge Hafting

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[icebna]

What distribution you have ?

Miguel


Helge Hafting escribió:

m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:

It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux...


If you _download_ LyX for linux from the lyx website, then you get
source code that you can compile. Doing that is complicated indeed,
and not recommended for a beginner.

There are _many_ different linux distributions. Making a lyx installer
for each is a lot of work, so it is not done by lyx developers.

Instead, linux distribution developers put lyx in their
distributions. So, the correct way to install lyx is
to use your linux distribution's way of installing software.

With debian, I use this command:
$ apt-get install lyx

That's all. I didn't even have to download anything. With this command,
debian will download and install lyx and all other software that
is needed to make lyx work.

If you have ubuntu, the command is similiar. Other linux distributions
are different, and you may have to download a package first. But you
download the lyx package from your linux distributor, not
from the lyx website.


Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?
Is it true taht that words Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories. mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?


If the notebook comes with a _major_ linux distribution installed,
then it may or may not have LyX already. Installing LyX using
the standard way of installing lyx on that linux distribution
should be easy enough though. If you need help, ask here or
in the linux distributors forum.

Note that some notebooks comes with not so major linux distributions,
which may not have lyx at all. In that case, consider switching to
a better distribution.

Helge Hafting

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[icebna]

What distribution you have ?

Miguel


Helge Hafting escribió:

m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:

It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux...


If you _download_ LyX for linux from the lyx website, then you get
source code that you can compile. Doing that is complicated indeed,
and not recommended for a beginner.

There are _many_ different linux distributions. Making a lyx installer
for each is a lot of work, so it is not done by lyx developers.

Instead, linux distribution developers put lyx in their
distributions. So, the correct way to install lyx is
to use your linux distribution's way of installing software.

With debian, I use this command:
$ apt-get install lyx

That's all. I didn't even have to download anything. With this command,
debian will download and install lyx and all other software that
is needed to make lyx work.

If you have ubuntu, the command is similiar. Other linux distributions
are different, and you may have to download a package first. But you
download the lyx package from your linux distributor, not
from the lyx website.


Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?
Is it true taht that words Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories. mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?


If the notebook comes with a _major_ linux distribution installed,
then it may or may not have LyX already. Installing LyX using
the standard way of installing lyx on that linux distribution
should be easy enough though. If you need help, ask here or
in the linux distributors forum.

Note that some notebooks comes with not so major linux distributions,
which may not have lyx at all. In that case, consider switching to
a better distribution.

Helge Hafting

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[icebna]

What distribution you have ?

Miguel


Helge Hafting escribió:

m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:

It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux...


If you _download_ LyX for linux from the lyx website, then you get
source code that you can compile. Doing that is complicated indeed,
and not recommended for a beginner.

There are _many_ different linux distributions. Making a lyx installer
for each is a lot of work, so it is not done by lyx developers.

Instead, linux distribution developers put lyx in their
distributions. So, the correct way to install lyx is
to use your linux distribution's way of installing software.

With debian, I use this command:
$ apt-get install lyx

That's all. I didn't even have to download anything. With this command,
debian will download and install lyx and all other software that
is needed to make lyx work.

If you have ubuntu, the command is similiar. Other linux distributions
are different, and you may have to download a package first. But you
download the lyx package from your linux distributor, not
from the lyx website.


Why there is hard to find "install. exe" file for LyX at lyx.org?
Is it true taht that words "Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories." mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?


If the notebook comes with a _major_ linux distribution installed,
then it may or may not have LyX already. Installing LyX using
the standard way of installing lyx on that linux distribution
should be easy enough though. If you need help, ask here or
in the linux distributors forum.

Note that some notebooks comes with not so "major" linux distributions,
which may not have lyx at all. In that case, consider switching to
a better distribution.

Helge Hafting

how to install LyX in Linux?

[M . Kocinski]

It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux...
Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?
Is it true taht that words Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories. mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?

Thanks in advance for the answer!

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:


It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux... Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?


  Because it's not needed. Copy the executable to /usr/bin or
/usr/local/bin, change the permissions to 555 and you're good to go.


Is it true taht that words Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories. mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?


  No. But, most distributions now have their own package management systems.
For Red Hat and its derivatives they are the .rpm files with YUM (or
something else) as the manager; for Debian and its derivatives they are the
.deb files and apt as the manager; for Slackware and its derivatives they
are .tgz files and slaptget (which I don't use anyway).

  In linux _you_ control your system. So, you place files where you want
them to be located (sticking with the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard is
always a good idea), turn on the executable flag in the permissions and
use. It's a completely different world from Microsoft.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.   |  IntegrityCredibility
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.|Innovation
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:23 AM, m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:
 It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
 much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
 Linux...
 Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?

In Linux it is traditional to install software via your package
manager rather than via dodgy third party websites (like lyx.org :P).
This is in part to avoid viruses, and in part to avoid DLL hell (or
so hell as it would be more accurately described for Linux operating
systems). Personally I also find it more convenient, as I once set my
mirror to be my ISP (System-Administration-Software Sources in
Ubuntu), and then all the software I install comes from my FreeZone
(and not from my 4GB cap). This is especially handy since the LaTeX
install alone is quite big.

In Ubuntu Linux you go Applications-Add/Remove, type in lyx, click
the check box besides lyx, and press Apply Changes.

Other operating systems built on top of Linux, such as Fedora Core,
have similar ways of adding software.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

how to install LyX in Linux?

[M . Kocinski]

It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux...
Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?
Is it true taht that words Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories. mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?

Thanks in advance for the answer!

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:


It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux... Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?


  Because it's not needed. Copy the executable to /usr/bin or
/usr/local/bin, change the permissions to 555 and you're good to go.


Is it true taht that words Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories. mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?


  No. But, most distributions now have their own package management systems.
For Red Hat and its derivatives they are the .rpm files with YUM (or
something else) as the manager; for Debian and its derivatives they are the
.deb files and apt as the manager; for Slackware and its derivatives they
are .tgz files and slaptget (which I don't use anyway).

  In linux _you_ control your system. So, you place files where you want
them to be located (sticking with the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard is
always a good idea), turn on the executable flag in the permissions and
use. It's a completely different world from Microsoft.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.   |  IntegrityCredibility
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.|Innovation
http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:23 AM, m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:
 It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
 much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
 Linux...
 Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?

In Linux it is traditional to install software via your package
manager rather than via dodgy third party websites (like lyx.org :P).
This is in part to avoid viruses, and in part to avoid DLL hell (or
so hell as it would be more accurately described for Linux operating
systems). Personally I also find it more convenient, as I once set my
mirror to be my ISP (System-Administration-Software Sources in
Ubuntu), and then all the software I install comes from my FreeZone
(and not from my 4GB cap). This is especially handy since the LaTeX
install alone is quite big.

In Ubuntu Linux you go Applications-Add/Remove, type in lyx, click
the check box besides lyx, and press Apply Changes.

Other operating systems built on top of Linux, such as Fedora Core,
have similar ways of adding software.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

how to install LyX in Linux?

[M . Kocinski]

It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux...
Why there is hard to find "install. exe" file for LyX at lyx.org?
Is it true taht that words "Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories." mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?

Thanks in advance for the answer!

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:


It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
Linux... Why there is hard to find "install. exe" file for LyX at lyx.org?


  Because it's not needed. Copy the executable to /usr/bin or
/usr/local/bin, change the permissions to 555 and you're good to go.


Is it true taht that words "Major Linux distributions take care of LyX
binaries themselves and you will find LyX in their repositories." mean
when I buy a new notebok with Linux installed then there will also LyX
there?


  No. But, most distributions now have their own package management systems.
For Red Hat and its derivatives they are the .rpm files with YUM (or
something else) as the manager; for Debian and its derivatives they are the
.deb files and apt as the manager; for Slackware and its derivatives they
are .tgz files and slaptget (which I don't use anyway).

  In linux _you_ control your system. So, you place files where you want
them to be located (sticking with the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard is
always a good idea), turn on the executable flag in the permissions and
use. It's a completely different world from Microsoft.

Rich

--
Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D.   |  IntegrityCredibility
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc.|Innovation
 Voice: 503-667-4517  Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:23 AM,  wrote:
> It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
> much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
> Linux...
> Why there is hard to find "install. exe" file for LyX at lyx.org?

In Linux it is traditional to install software via your package
manager rather than via dodgy third party websites (like lyx.org :P).
This is in part to avoid viruses, and in part to avoid DLL hell (or
"so" hell as it would be more accurately described for Linux operating
systems). Personally I also find it more convenient, as I once set my
mirror to be my ISP (System->Administration->Software Sources in
Ubuntu), and then all the software I install comes from my FreeZone
(and not from my 4GB cap). This is especially handy since the LaTeX
install alone is quite big.

In Ubuntu Linux you go "Applications->Add/Remove", type in lyx, click
the check box besides lyx, and press Apply Changes.

Other operating systems built on top of Linux, such as Fedora Core,
have similar ways of adding software.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia