Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
Unfortunately, today one of our users reported that lyx-qt (installed from debian binary package 1.3.4-2) crashes every other minute for him, until restarted with LC_ALL=C. Ok, we found it. It crashes on each autosave, because of error in ru.po, which causes exception from boost. And really, this does not happen if not running in russian locale. In debian version, this should be applied: --- ru.po.orig 2004-02-19 13:18:47.0 +0300 +++ ru.po 2004-10-05 16:55:47.0 +0400 @@ -11642,7 +11642,7 @@ #: src/lyx_cb.C:273 #, c-format msgid Auto-saving %1$s -msgstr %1$1 +msgstr %1$s #: src/lyx_cb.C:275 msgid Auto-saving In current CVS, this is (probably) needed: --- ru.po.cvs.orig 2004-10-05 16:57:46.0 +0400 +++ ru.po.cvs 2004-10-05 16:58:20.0 +0400 @@ -13723,7 +13723,7 @@ #: src/lyx_cb.C:245 #, fuzzy, c-format msgid Auto-saving %1$s -msgstr +msgstr %1$s #: src/lyx_cb.C:284 msgid Autosave failed!
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately, today one of our users reported that lyx-qt (installed from debian binary package 1.3.4-2) crashes every other minute for him, until restarted with LC_ALL=C. | Ok, we found it. It crashes on each autosave, because of error in ru.po, | which causes exception from boost. And really, this does not happen if not | running in russian locale. A validate of the po file should have caught this. -- Lgb
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
Nikita == Nikita V Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately, today one of our users reported that lyx-qt (installed from debian binary package 1.3.4-2) crashes every other minute for him, until restarted with LC_ALL=C. Nikita Ok, we found it. It crashes on each autosave, because of error Nikita in ru.po, which causes exception from boost. And really, this Nikita does not happen if not running in russian locale. Thanks a lot. I applied your fix to both 1.3.5cvs and 1.4.0cvs. JMarc
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
Unfortunately, today one of our users reported that lyx-qt (installed from debian binary package 1.3.4-2) crashes every other minute for him, until restarted with LC_ALL=C. Ok, we found it. It crashes on each autosave, because of error in ru.po, which causes exception from boost. And really, this does not happen if not running in russian locale. In debian version, this should be applied: --- ru.po.orig 2004-02-19 13:18:47.0 +0300 +++ ru.po 2004-10-05 16:55:47.0 +0400 @@ -11642,7 +11642,7 @@ #: src/lyx_cb.C:273 #, c-format msgid Auto-saving %1$s -msgstr %1$1 +msgstr %1$s #: src/lyx_cb.C:275 msgid Auto-saving In current CVS, this is (probably) needed: --- ru.po.cvs.orig 2004-10-05 16:57:46.0 +0400 +++ ru.po.cvs 2004-10-05 16:58:20.0 +0400 @@ -13723,7 +13723,7 @@ #: src/lyx_cb.C:245 #, fuzzy, c-format msgid Auto-saving %1$s -msgstr +msgstr %1$s #: src/lyx_cb.C:284 msgid Autosave failed!
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately, today one of our users reported that lyx-qt (installed from debian binary package 1.3.4-2) crashes every other minute for him, until restarted with LC_ALL=C. | Ok, we found it. It crashes on each autosave, because of error in ru.po, | which causes exception from boost. And really, this does not happen if not | running in russian locale. A validate of the po file should have caught this. -- Lgb
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
Nikita == Nikita V Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately, today one of our users reported that lyx-qt (installed from debian binary package 1.3.4-2) crashes every other minute for him, until restarted with LC_ALL=C. Nikita Ok, we found it. It crashes on each autosave, because of error Nikita in ru.po, which causes exception from boost. And really, this Nikita does not happen if not running in russian locale. Thanks a lot. I applied your fix to both 1.3.5cvs and 1.4.0cvs. JMarc
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
> Unfortunately, today one of our users reported that lyx-qt (installed > from debian binary package 1.3.4-2) crashes every other minute for him, > until restarted with LC_ALL=C. Ok, we found it. It crashes on each autosave, because of error in ru.po, which causes exception from boost. And really, this does not happen if not running in russian locale. In debian version, this should be applied: --- ru.po.orig 2004-02-19 13:18:47.0 +0300 +++ ru.po 2004-10-05 16:55:47.0 +0400 @@ -11642,7 +11642,7 @@ #: src/lyx_cb.C:273 #, c-format msgid "Auto-saving %1$s" -msgstr "Автоматическое сохранение %1$1" +msgstr "Автоматическое сохранение %1$s" #: src/lyx_cb.C:275 msgid "Auto-saving " In current CVS, this is (probably) needed: --- ru.po.cvs.orig 2004-10-05 16:57:46.0 +0400 +++ ru.po.cvs 2004-10-05 16:58:20.0 +0400 @@ -13723,7 +13723,7 @@ #: src/lyx_cb.C:245 #, fuzzy, c-format msgid "Auto-saving %1$s" -msgstr "Автосохранение" +msgstr "Автосохранение %1$s" #: src/lyx_cb.C:284 msgid "Autosave failed!"
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
"Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Unfortunately, today one of our users reported that lyx-qt (installed >> from debian binary package 1.3.4-2) crashes every other minute for him, >> until restarted with LC_ALL=C. > | Ok, we found it. It crashes on each autosave, because of error in ru.po, | which causes exception from boost. And really, this does not happen if not | running in russian locale. A validate of the po file should have caught this. -- Lgb
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
> "Nikita" == Nikita V Youshchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Unfortunately, today one of our users reported that lyx-qt >> (installed from debian binary package 1.3.4-2) crashes every other >> minute for him, until restarted with LC_ALL=C. Nikita> Ok, we found it. It crashes on each autosave, because of error Nikita> in ru.po, which causes exception from boost. And really, this Nikita> does not happen if not running in russian locale. Thanks a lot. I applied your fix to both 1.3.5cvs and 1.4.0cvs. JMarc
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
--- Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. The known problem with lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display (that causes no math symbols to be displayed if Qt uses fontconfig) may be workarounded by starting lyx-qt as LC_TIME=C lyx-qt = ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
--- Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. The known problem with lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display (that causes no math symbols to be displayed if Qt uses fontconfig) may be workarounded by starting lyx-qt as LC_TIME=C lyx-qt To fix the problem install the latex-xft-fonts ( same problem for the english version) best regards bela = __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
--- Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. The known problem with lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display (that causes no math symbols to be displayed if Qt uses fontconfig) may be workarounded by starting lyx-qt as LC_TIME=C lyx-qt The problem is not only for the russian, it is for english too, to solve the problem install latex-xft-fonts No, the problem is in latex-xft-fonts and Qt. When running in russian locale, Qt refuses to load fonts from latex-xft-fonts, due to a strange way Qt uses to detect which fornts should be available for application. As documented in README in latex-xft-fonts, it is a known problem that trooltech refuses to fix.
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
Nikita == Nikita V Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nikita Hello. The known problem with lyx-qt + russian locale + math Nikita symbols display (that causes no math symbols to be displayed Nikita if Qt uses fontconfig) may be workarounded by starting lyx-qt Nikita as Nikita LC_TIME=C lyx-qt I have to admit that I thought at first that LC_TIME was a typo and that I went to check the sources :) I can see now that QFont::initialize() in qfont_x11.cpp does use the LC_TIME locale to determine some locale characteristics. Do you understand what this code does? Should LyX set LC_TIME to C unconditionally, or would that disable some interesting feature? That's very weird. JMarc
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
Nikita LC_TIME=C lyx-qt I have to admit that I thought at first that LC_TIME was a typo and that I went to check the sources :) I can see now that QFont::initialize() in qfont_x11.cpp does use the LC_TIME locale to determine some locale characteristics. Do you understand what this code does? Should LyX set LC_TIME to C unconditionally, or would that disable some interesting feature? That's very weird. One day (several months ago) I was tired with lyx-qt math editor being unusable in russian locale, and tried to dig into. I wrote to latex-xft-fonts package creators, asking for details. I got the following reply: Hello. From README of latex-xft-fonts tarball: If you're using a locale such as LANG=ru_RU, and some others, these fonts will not load in Qt. This is a Qt bug that Troll Tech refuse to fix. Could you please provide more information on this, or point me to such information if it is available? Troll Tech assigned it a number of N19481, said they'd fixed it, and when they hadn't, stated they would not. Basically, the XFT fonts have a particular encoding, and it does not match that requested by Qt when it's looking for a font suitable for Cyrillic (even though there is no Cyrillic glyph used for the math symbols). It might be possible to produce a set of math XFT fonts with a matching encoding, but my attempts using pfaedit have so far failed. regards john Then I looked at qt sources, and found all that things in qfont_x11.cpp I failed to understand why the do so, and decided to give up (noting in my todo that one day I should think more). Yesterday I found that todo, and realized that I may fool Qt by resetting LC_TIME. Not much things actually use LC_TIME, so I hope it should not break anything. I tried it, and it worked. So I wrote to several lists about it, and enabled workaround on systems that I administer (our users use lyx sometimes; until now they had to use either xforms version or qt version without russian locale). Unfortunately, today one of our users reported that lyx-qt (installed from debian binary package 1.3.4-2) crashes every other minute for him, until restarted with LC_ALL=C. I was not able to reproduce crashes (however, I can't say I tried very hard). I don't know if it related to running lyx-qt in a mixed locale, or just to running it in russian locale, or completely unrelated (e.g. it crashes on user's particular document). Currently I'm rebuilding the package with debugging symbols enabled; I'll ask the user to try this version and try to get a coredump of the crash. I'll report the results.
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
--- Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. The known problem with lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display (that causes no math symbols to be displayed if Qt uses fontconfig) may be workarounded by starting lyx-qt as LC_TIME=C lyx-qt = ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
--- Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. The known problem with lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display (that causes no math symbols to be displayed if Qt uses fontconfig) may be workarounded by starting lyx-qt as LC_TIME=C lyx-qt To fix the problem install the latex-xft-fonts ( same problem for the english version) best regards bela = __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
--- Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. The known problem with lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display (that causes no math symbols to be displayed if Qt uses fontconfig) may be workarounded by starting lyx-qt as LC_TIME=C lyx-qt The problem is not only for the russian, it is for english too, to solve the problem install latex-xft-fonts No, the problem is in latex-xft-fonts and Qt. When running in russian locale, Qt refuses to load fonts from latex-xft-fonts, due to a strange way Qt uses to detect which fornts should be available for application. As documented in README in latex-xft-fonts, it is a known problem that trooltech refuses to fix.
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
Nikita == Nikita V Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nikita Hello. The known problem with lyx-qt + russian locale + math Nikita symbols display (that causes no math symbols to be displayed Nikita if Qt uses fontconfig) may be workarounded by starting lyx-qt Nikita as Nikita LC_TIME=C lyx-qt I have to admit that I thought at first that LC_TIME was a typo and that I went to check the sources :) I can see now that QFont::initialize() in qfont_x11.cpp does use the LC_TIME locale to determine some locale characteristics. Do you understand what this code does? Should LyX set LC_TIME to C unconditionally, or would that disable some interesting feature? That's very weird. JMarc
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
Nikita LC_TIME=C lyx-qt I have to admit that I thought at first that LC_TIME was a typo and that I went to check the sources :) I can see now that QFont::initialize() in qfont_x11.cpp does use the LC_TIME locale to determine some locale characteristics. Do you understand what this code does? Should LyX set LC_TIME to C unconditionally, or would that disable some interesting feature? That's very weird. One day (several months ago) I was tired with lyx-qt math editor being unusable in russian locale, and tried to dig into. I wrote to latex-xft-fonts package creators, asking for details. I got the following reply: Hello. From README of latex-xft-fonts tarball: If you're using a locale such as LANG=ru_RU, and some others, these fonts will not load in Qt. This is a Qt bug that Troll Tech refuse to fix. Could you please provide more information on this, or point me to such information if it is available? Troll Tech assigned it a number of N19481, said they'd fixed it, and when they hadn't, stated they would not. Basically, the XFT fonts have a particular encoding, and it does not match that requested by Qt when it's looking for a font suitable for Cyrillic (even though there is no Cyrillic glyph used for the math symbols). It might be possible to produce a set of math XFT fonts with a matching encoding, but my attempts using pfaedit have so far failed. regards john Then I looked at qt sources, and found all that things in qfont_x11.cpp I failed to understand why the do so, and decided to give up (noting in my todo that one day I should think more). Yesterday I found that todo, and realized that I may fool Qt by resetting LC_TIME. Not much things actually use LC_TIME, so I hope it should not break anything. I tried it, and it worked. So I wrote to several lists about it, and enabled workaround on systems that I administer (our users use lyx sometimes; until now they had to use either xforms version or qt version without russian locale). Unfortunately, today one of our users reported that lyx-qt (installed from debian binary package 1.3.4-2) crashes every other minute for him, until restarted with LC_ALL=C. I was not able to reproduce crashes (however, I can't say I tried very hard). I don't know if it related to running lyx-qt in a mixed locale, or just to running it in russian locale, or completely unrelated (e.g. it crashes on user's particular document). Currently I'm rebuilding the package with debugging symbols enabled; I'll ask the user to try this version and try to get a coredump of the crash. I'll report the results.
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
--- "Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello. > > The known problem with lyx-qt + russian locale + > math symbols display (that > causes no math symbols to be displayed if Qt uses > fontconfig) may be > workarounded by starting lyx-qt as > > LC_TIME=C lyx-qt > > = ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
--- "Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello. > > The known problem with lyx-qt + russian locale + > math symbols display (that > causes no math symbols to be displayed if Qt uses > fontconfig) may be > workarounded by starting lyx-qt as > > LC_TIME=C lyx-qt > > To fix the problem install the latex-xft-fonts ( same problem for the english version) best regards bela = __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
> --- "Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello. > > > > The known problem with lyx-qt + russian locale + > > math symbols display (that > > causes no math symbols to be displayed if Qt uses > > fontconfig) may be > > workarounded by starting lyx-qt as > > > > LC_TIME=C lyx-qt > > The problem is not only for the russian, it is for > english too, to solve the problem install > latex-xft-fonts No, the problem is in latex-xft-fonts and Qt. When running in russian locale, Qt refuses to load fonts from latex-xft-fonts, due to a strange way Qt uses to detect which fornts should be available for application. As documented in README in latex-xft-fonts, it is a known problem that trooltech refuses to fix.
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
> "Nikita" == Nikita V Youshchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Nikita> Hello. The known problem with lyx-qt + russian locale + math Nikita> symbols display (that causes no math symbols to be displayed Nikita> if Qt uses fontconfig) may be workarounded by starting lyx-qt Nikita> as Nikita> LC_TIME=C lyx-qt I have to admit that I thought at first that LC_TIME was a typo and that I went to check the sources :) I can see now that QFont::initialize() in qfont_x11.cpp does use the LC_TIME locale to determine some locale characteristics. Do you understand what this code does? Should LyX set LC_TIME to C unconditionally, or would that disable some interesting feature? That's very weird. JMarc
Re: lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
> Nikita> LC_TIME=C lyx-qt > > I have to admit that I thought at first that LC_TIME was a typo and > that I went to check the sources :) I can see now that > QFont::initialize() in qfont_x11.cpp does use the LC_TIME locale to > determine some locale characteristics. > > Do you understand what this code does? Should LyX set LC_TIME to C > unconditionally, or would that disable some interesting feature? > > That's very weird. One day (several months ago) I was tired with lyx-qt math editor being unusable in russian locale, and tried to dig into. I wrote to latex-xft-fonts package creators, asking for details. I got the following reply: > > Hello. > > > > From README of latex-xft-fonts tarball: > > > If you're using a locale such as LANG=ru_RU, and some others, > > > these fonts will not load in Qt. This is a Qt bug that Troll > > > Tech refuse to fix. > > > > Could you please provide more information on this, or point me to such > > information if it is available? > > Troll Tech assigned it a number of N19481, said they'd fixed it, and > when they hadn't, stated they would not. > > Basically, the XFT fonts have a particular encoding, and it does not > match that requested by Qt when it's looking for a font suitable for > Cyrillic (even though there is no Cyrillic glyph used for the math > symbols). > > It might be possible to produce a set of math XFT fonts with a matching > encoding, but my attempts using pfaedit have so far failed. > > regards > john Then I looked at qt sources, and found all that things in qfont_x11.cpp I failed to understand why the do so, and decided to give up (noting in my todo that one day I should think more). Yesterday I found that todo, and realized that I may fool Qt by resetting LC_TIME. Not much things actually use LC_TIME, so I hope it should not break anything. I tried it, and it worked. So I wrote to several lists about it, and enabled workaround on systems that I administer (our users use lyx sometimes; until now they had to use either xforms version or qt version without russian locale). Unfortunately, today one of our users reported that lyx-qt (installed from debian binary package 1.3.4-2) crashes every other minute for him, until restarted with LC_ALL=C. I was not able to reproduce crashes (however, I can't say I tried very hard). I don't know if it related to running lyx-qt in a "mixed" locale, or just to running it in russian locale, or completely unrelated (e.g. it crashes on user's particular document). Currently I'm rebuilding the package with debugging symbols enabled; I'll ask the user to try this version and try to get a coredump of the crash. I'll report the results.
lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
Hello. The known problem with lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display (that causes no math symbols to be displayed if Qt uses fontconfig) may be workarounded by starting lyx-qt as LC_TIME=C lyx-qt
lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
Hello. The known problem with lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display (that causes no math symbols to be displayed if Qt uses fontconfig) may be workarounded by starting lyx-qt as LC_TIME=C lyx-qt
lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display
Hello. The known problem with lyx-qt + russian locale + math symbols display (that causes no math symbols to be displayed if Qt uses fontconfig) may be workarounded by starting lyx-qt as LC_TIME=C lyx-qt
