Re: lyx2.2.0rc1 and lyx2.2.0 identical?

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Geord, Scott and Kornel,
thanks for the infos re uninstall!
Wolfgang

On 31.05.2016 23:05, Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Dienstag, 31. Mai 2016 um 16:09:26, schrieb Scott Kostyshak 


On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 09:38:17PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote:

Scott Kostyshak wrote:


On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 09:10:17AM +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

How do I effectively remove the rc1 lyx. I have it and 2.2.0 (myx lyx22)
side by side

You're on Linux right? I'm not sure of the best way to remove it. We
don't have an uninstall target (i.e. you can't do "make uninstall").

We do (at least with autotools). Simply call

make uninstall

from the rc1 build directory. If installation needed root privileges, then
this needs root privileges as well.

Good to know. Sorry for the misinformation, Wolfgang. I based my answer
on the targets created by cmake.

But with cmake we can use packages. Uninstalling is just as easy as using 'dpkg 
--purge' or 'rpm -e'.



Scott



Georg

Kornel

Re: lyx2.2.0rc1 and lyx2.2.0 identical?

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:05:59PM +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 31. Mai 2016 um 16:09:26, schrieb Scott Kostyshak 
> 
> > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 09:38:17PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote:
> > > Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 09:10:17AM +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > > >> 
> > > >> How do I effectively remove the rc1 lyx. I have it and 2.2.0 (myx 
> > > >> lyx22)
> > > >> side by side
> > > > 
> > > > You're on Linux right? I'm not sure of the best way to remove it. We
> > > > don't have an uninstall target (i.e. you can't do "make uninstall").
> > > 
> > > We do (at least with autotools). Simply call
> > > 
> > > make uninstall
> > > 
> > > from the rc1 build directory. If installation needed root privileges, 
> > > then 
> > > this needs root privileges as well.
> > 
> > Good to know. Sorry for the misinformation, Wolfgang. I based my answer
> > on the targets created by cmake.
> 
> But with cmake we can use packages. Uninstalling is just as easy as using 
> 'dpkg --purge' or 'rpm -e'.

That is indeed good to know.

I was blaming myself, not cmake.

Scott


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Re: lyx2.2.0rc1 and lyx2.2.0 identical?

[Kornel Benko]

Am Dienstag, 31. Mai 2016 um 16:09:26, schrieb Scott Kostyshak 

> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 09:38:17PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote:
> > Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 09:10:17AM +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> How do I effectively remove the rc1 lyx. I have it and 2.2.0 (myx lyx22)
> > >> side by side
> > > 
> > > You're on Linux right? I'm not sure of the best way to remove it. We
> > > don't have an uninstall target (i.e. you can't do "make uninstall").
> > 
> > We do (at least with autotools). Simply call
> > 
> > make uninstall
> > 
> > from the rc1 build directory. If installation needed root privileges, then 
> > this needs root privileges as well.
> 
> Good to know. Sorry for the misinformation, Wolfgang. I based my answer
> on the targets created by cmake.

But with cmake we can use packages. Uninstalling is just as easy as using 'dpkg 
--purge' or 'rpm -e'.


> Scott
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Georg

Kornel

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Re: lyx2.2.0rc1 and lyx2.2.0 identical?

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 09:38:17PM +0200, Georg Baum wrote:
> Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 09:10:17AM +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> >> 
> >> How do I effectively remove the rc1 lyx. I have it and 2.2.0 (myx lyx22)
> >> side by side
> > 
> > You're on Linux right? I'm not sure of the best way to remove it. We
> > don't have an uninstall target (i.e. you can't do "make uninstall").
> 
> We do (at least with autotools). Simply call
> 
> make uninstall
> 
> from the rc1 build directory. If installation needed root privileges, then 
> this needs root privileges as well.

Good to know. Sorry for the misinformation, Wolfgang. I based my answer
on the targets created by cmake.

Scott

> 
> 
> Georg
> 


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Re: lyx2.2.0rc1 and lyx2.2.0 identical?

[Georg Baum]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:

> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 09:10:17AM +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
>> 
>> How do I effectively remove the rc1 lyx. I have it and 2.2.0 (myx lyx22)
>> side by side
> 
> You're on Linux right? I'm not sure of the best way to remove it. We
> don't have an uninstall target (i.e. you can't do "make uninstall").

We do (at least with autotools). Simply call

make uninstall

from the rc1 build directory. If installation needed root privileges, then 
this needs root privileges as well.


Georg

Re: lyx2.2.0rc1 and lyx2.2.0 identical?

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

On 31.05.2016 11:35, Helge Hafting wrote:



Den 31. mai 2016 10:50, skrev Wolfgang Engelmann:

I used ./configure --with-version-suffix=22
and make
and #make install
so probably neither one
Wolfgang


Removing rc1 is not necessary for correct operation of lyx 2.2.0 in 
this case. The rc1 lyx you compiled is named "lyx-22", and won't 
interfere with the packaged lyx named "lyx".


You may of course still want to remove the older lyx-22 to save space 
or have a tidy filesystem. The binaries:

rm /usr/local/lyx-22*
(removes lyx-22 and lyxclient-22. You must be root or use sudo to do 
this)


Other lyx files:
rm -r /usr/local/share/lyx-22
(removes everything else, templates, scripts, document classes and so 
on. You must be root for this too.)


Check if there is anything else left:
find /usr/local/ -name "lyx-22*"
If anything is found, consider removing it. If it has "-22" in the 
name, it is only needed for lyx-22 and should be of little use for 
anything else.


Personal lyx-22 rc1 stuff:
rm -r ~/.lyx-22
(removes settings, customizations and personal templates for this 
particular lyx. If you have saved anything in here, such as your own 
templates or document classes, then you may want to copy it into the 
new .lyx/ folder first. )



The distro package system installs lyx stuff in /usr/share/lyx/, which 
is a different folder from those used by lyx-22. The distributed 
binaries should be /usr/bin/lyx and /usr/bin/lyxclient, and the 
personal folder for settings etc.  is ~/.lyx/


A lyx you install with "make install" goes in /usr/local/... so it 
won't interfere with anything from the package management system of 
the linux distribution. And when you use "--with-version-suffix=22", 
everything will be tagged with that convenient "-22". This makes 
removal easier, and allows installation of many versions of lyx 
simultaneously, which is useful for testing & development. All 
different versions should use different version-suffix.


Helge Hafting
Thanks, Helge, for explaining all this in detail which is very helpful 
for me, especially the various places for lyx.


As far as my question re ngerman is concerned, I noticed that the 
summary is also in German, which explains that it is needed.

Re: lyx2.2.0rc1 and lyx2.2.0 identical?

[Helge Hafting]

Den 31. mai 2016 10:50, skrev Wolfgang Engelmann:

I used ./configure --with-version-suffix=22
and make
and #make install
so probably neither one
Wolfgang


Removing rc1 is not necessary for correct operation of lyx 2.2.0 in this 
case. The rc1 lyx you compiled is named "lyx-22", and won't interfere 
with the packaged lyx named "lyx".


You may of course still want to remove the older lyx-22 to save space or 
have a tidy filesystem. The binaries:

rm /usr/local/lyx-22*
(removes lyx-22 and lyxclient-22. You must be root or use sudo to do this)

Other lyx files:
rm -r /usr/local/share/lyx-22
(removes everything else, templates, scripts, document classes and so 
on. You must be root for this too.)


Check if there is anything else left:
find /usr/local/ -name "lyx-22*"
If anything is found, consider removing it. If it has "-22" in the name, 
it is only needed for lyx-22 and should be of little use for anything else.


Personal lyx-22 rc1 stuff:
rm -r ~/.lyx-22
(removes settings, customizations and personal templates for this 
particular lyx. If you have saved anything in here, such as your own 
templates or document classes, then you may want to copy it into the new 
.lyx/ folder first. )



The distro package system installs lyx stuff in /usr/share/lyx/, which 
is a different folder from those used by lyx-22. The distributed 
binaries should be /usr/bin/lyx and /usr/bin/lyxclient, and the personal 
folder for settings etc.  is ~/.lyx/


A lyx you install with "make install" goes in /usr/local/... so it won't 
interfere with anything from the package management system of the linux 
distribution. And when you use "--with-version-suffix=22", everything 
will be tagged with that convenient "-22". This makes removal easier, 
and allows installation of many versions of lyx simultaneously, which is 
useful for testing & development. All different versions should use 
different version-suffix.


Helge Hafting

Re: lyx2.2.0rc1 and lyx2.2.0 identical?

[Kornel Benko]

Am Dienstag, 31. Mai 2016 um 10:50:38, schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann 

> >> I compiled it from source
> > With cmake or automake help?
> > In case you used cmake, you could create a debian package. Installing and 
> > de-installing  is easy in that case.
> >
> >   Kornel
> I used ./configure --with-version-suffix=22

This is automake.

> and make
> and #make install
> so probably neither one
> Wolfgang

Kornel

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Re: lyx2.2.0rc1 and lyx2.2.0 identical?

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

On 31.05.2016 10:27, Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Dienstag, 31. Mai 2016 um 10:15:32, schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann 


On 31.05.2016 10:11, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


On 31.05.2016 10:06, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
 wrote:

On 31.05.2016 08:58, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 08:53:06AM +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Are lyx2.2.0rc1 (11.4.16) and lyx2.2.0 (23.5.16) identical?
Wolfgang

No they're significantly different. I highly recommend you use the
final
2.2.0 over rc1.

Scott

Thanks, Scott.

How do I effectively remove the rc1 lyx. I have it and 2.2.0 (myx
lyx22)
side by side


How did you install them? What OS?


Liviu


Wolfgang



Liviu, Scott:

Kubuntu (14.04 trusty) and using Lyx2.2.0 (of 23.5.2016)

Debian (GNU/Linux 8.4 (jessie) Release: 8.4) and using Lyx2.2.0
(of 23.5.2016)

Wolfgang


ps
I compiled it from source

With cmake or automake help?
In case you used cmake, you could create a debian package. Installing and 
de-installing  is easy in that case.

Kornel

I used ./configure --with-version-suffix=22
and make
and #make install
so probably neither one
Wolfgang

Re: lyx2.2.0rc1 and lyx2.2.0 identical?

[Kornel Benko]

Am Dienstag, 31. Mai 2016 um 10:15:32, schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann 

> 
> On 31.05.2016 10:11, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 31.05.2016 10:06, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> >> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 31.05.2016 08:58, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 08:53:06AM +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Are lyx2.2.0rc1 (11.4.16) and lyx2.2.0 (23.5.16) identical?
> >>> Wolfgang
> >>>
> >>> No they're significantly different. I highly recommend you use the 
> >>> final
> >>> 2.2.0 over rc1.
> >>>
> >>> Scott
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Scott.
> >>>
> >>> How do I effectively remove the rc1 lyx. I have it and 2.2.0 (myx 
> >>> lyx22)
> >>> side by side
> >>>
> >> How did you install them? What OS?
> >>
> >>
> >> Liviu
> >>
> >>> Wolfgang
> >>
> >>
> > Liviu, Scott:
> >
> > Kubuntu (14.04 trusty) and using Lyx2.2.0 (of 23.5.2016)
> >
> > Debian (GNU/Linux 8.4 (jessie) Release: 8.4) and using Lyx2.2.0
> > (of 23.5.2016)
> >
> > Wolfgang
> >
> ps
> I compiled it from source

With cmake or automake help?
In case you used cmake, you could create a debian package. Installing and 
de-installing  is easy in that case.

Kornel

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Re: lyx2.2.0rc1 and lyx2.2.0 identical?

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

On 31.05.2016 10:11, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:



On 31.05.2016 10:06, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
 wrote:


On 31.05.2016 08:58, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 08:53:06AM +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Are lyx2.2.0rc1 (11.4.16) and lyx2.2.0 (23.5.16) identical?
Wolfgang

No they're significantly different. I highly recommend you use the 
final

2.2.0 over rc1.

Scott

Thanks, Scott.

How do I effectively remove the rc1 lyx. I have it and 2.2.0 (myx 
lyx22)

side by side


How did you install them? What OS?


Liviu


Wolfgang




Liviu, Scott:

Kubuntu (14.04 trusty) and using Lyx2.2.0 (of 23.5.2016)

Debian (GNU/Linux 8.4 (jessie) Release: 8.4) and using Lyx2.2.0
(of 23.5.2016)

Wolfgang


ps
I compiled it from source

Re: lyx2.2.0rc1 and lyx2.2.0 identical?

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

On 31.05.2016 10:06, Liviu Andronic wrote:

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
 wrote:


On 31.05.2016 08:58, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 08:53:06AM +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Are lyx2.2.0rc1 (11.4.16) and lyx2.2.0 (23.5.16) identical?
Wolfgang

No they're significantly different. I highly recommend you use the final
2.2.0 over rc1.

Scott

Thanks, Scott.

How do I effectively remove the rc1 lyx. I have it and 2.2.0 (myx lyx22)
side by side


How did you install them? What OS?


Liviu


Wolfgang




Liviu, Scott:

Kubuntu (14.04 trusty) and using Lyx2.2.0 (of 23.5.2016)

Debian (GNU/Linux 8.4 (jessie) Release: 8.4) and using Lyx2.2.0
(of 23.5.2016)

Wolfgang

Re: lyx2.2.0rc1 and lyx2.2.0 identical?

[Liviu Andronic]

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann
 wrote:
>
>
> On 31.05.2016 08:58, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 08:53:06AM +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
>
> Are lyx2.2.0rc1 (11.4.16) and lyx2.2.0 (23.5.16) identical?
> Wolfgang
>
> No they're significantly different. I highly recommend you use the final
> 2.2.0 over rc1.
>
> Scott
>
> Thanks, Scott.
>
> How do I effectively remove the rc1 lyx. I have it and 2.2.0 (myx lyx22)
> side by side
>
How did you install them? What OS?


Liviu

> Wolfgang



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Re: lyx2.2.0rc1 and lyx2.2.0 identical?

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 09:10:17AM +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> 
> 
> On 31.05.2016 08:58, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 08:53:06AM +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > > Are lyx2.2.0rc1 (11.4.16) and lyx2.2.0 (23.5.16) identical?
> > > Wolfgang
> > No they're significantly different. I highly recommend you use the final
> > 2.2.0 over rc1.
> > 
> > Scott
> 
> Thanks, Scott.
> 
> How do I effectively remove the rc1 lyx. I have it and 2.2.0 (myx lyx22)
> side by side

You're on Linux right? I'm not sure of the best way to remove it. We
don't have an uninstall target (i.e. you can't do "make uninstall").
You could use something like checkinstall.

Scott


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Re: lyx2.2.0rc1 and lyx2.2.0 identical?

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

On 31.05.2016 08:58, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 08:53:06AM +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

Are lyx2.2.0rc1 (11.4.16) and lyx2.2.0 (23.5.16) identical?
Wolfgang

No they're significantly different. I highly recommend you use the final
2.2.0 over rc1.

Scott


Thanks, Scott.

How do I effectively remove the rc1 lyx. I have it and 2.2.0 (myx lyx22) 
side by side

Wolfgang

Re: lyx2.2.0rc1 and lyx2.2.0 identical?

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 08:53:06AM +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> Are lyx2.2.0rc1 (11.4.16) and lyx2.2.0 (23.5.16) identical?
> Wolfgang

No they're significantly different. I highly recommend you use the final
2.2.0 over rc1.

Scott


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lyx2.2.0rc1 and lyx2.2.0 identical?

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Are lyx2.2.0rc1 (11.4.16) and lyx2.2.0 (23.5.16) identical?
Wolfgang