Re: [noob q] Recursive sections?

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 19 February 2005 12:41, Glenn Davy wrote:
 Is there a template or layout readily available for lyx that will provide
 that type of functionality? Alternatively what are my other options for
 deeper nesting of subsections?

  No. At this time the only option is use the traditional scheme. I am sure 
that we will support that in later versions, but we are not there yet.

 Thanks

 Glenn

-- 
Jos Ablio

Re: [noob q] Recursive sections?

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Glenn Davy wrote:
 Is there a template or layout readily available for lyx that will provide
 that type of functionality? 

If you need a way to switch easily between article kind of classes (where 
section is the uppermost level) and book (which has chapter one level 
higher), then you might try the memoir class, which is a book kind of class, 
but provides an article emulation.

There's also the LaTeX package outliner, which lets you use \Level 1, \Level 
2 etc. instead of the section stuff.
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/outliner
These macros aren't supported by LyX natively. You either have to write a 
layout file or use ERT.

 Alternatively what are my other options for
 deeper nesting of subsections?

You can use subsubsections, paragraphs and subparagraphs. In 
Layout-Document-Numbering, you can change the numbering depth to get the 
subsubsections and paragraphs numbered, or even create subsubsubsections, as 
described here:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=subsubsub

However, at least in German typography, sectioning level higher than 3 digits 
(e.g. 1.3.2.2) is considered bad style and a symptom that the author hasn't 
thought about his document structure well enough.

HTH,
Jürgen

Re: [noob q] Recursive sections?

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 19 February 2005 12:41, Glenn Davy wrote:
 Is there a template or layout readily available for lyx that will provide
 that type of functionality? Alternatively what are my other options for
 deeper nesting of subsections?

  No. At this time the only option is use the traditional scheme. I am sure 
that we will support that in later versions, but we are not there yet.

 Thanks

 Glenn

-- 
Jos Ablio

Re: [noob q] Recursive sections?

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Glenn Davy wrote:
 Is there a template or layout readily available for lyx that will provide
 that type of functionality? 

If you need a way to switch easily between article kind of classes (where 
section is the uppermost level) and book (which has chapter one level 
higher), then you might try the memoir class, which is a book kind of class, 
but provides an article emulation.

There's also the LaTeX package outliner, which lets you use \Level 1, \Level 
2 etc. instead of the section stuff.
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/outliner
These macros aren't supported by LyX natively. You either have to write a 
layout file or use ERT.

 Alternatively what are my other options for
 deeper nesting of subsections?

You can use subsubsections, paragraphs and subparagraphs. In 
Layout-Document-Numbering, you can change the numbering depth to get the 
subsubsections and paragraphs numbered, or even create subsubsubsections, as 
described here:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=subsubsub

However, at least in German typography, sectioning level higher than 3 digits 
(e.g. 1.3.2.2) is considered bad style and a symptom that the author hasn't 
thought about his document structure well enough.

HTH,
Jürgen

Re: [noob q] Recursive sections?

[Jose' Matos]

On Saturday 19 February 2005 12:41, Glenn Davy wrote:
> Is there a template or layout readily available for lyx that will provide
> that type of functionality? Alternatively what are my other options for
> deeper nesting of subsections?

  No. At this time the only option is use the traditional scheme. I am sure 
that we will support that in later versions, but we are not there yet.

> Thanks
>
> Glenn

-- 
Josà AbÃlio

Re: [noob q] Recursive sections?

[Juergen Spitzmueller]

Glenn Davy wrote:
> Is there a template or layout readily available for lyx that will provide
> that type of functionality? 

If you need a way to switch easily between article kind of classes (where 
section is the uppermost level) and book (which has chapter one level 
higher), then you might try the memoir class, which is a book kind of class, 
but provides an article emulation.

There's also the LaTeX package "outliner", which lets you use \Level 1, \Level 
2 etc. instead of the section stuff.
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/outliner
These macros aren't supported by LyX natively. You either have to write a 
layout file or use ERT.

> Alternatively what are my other options for
> deeper nesting of subsections?

You can use subsubsections, paragraphs and subparagraphs. In 
Layout->Document->Numbering, you can change the numbering depth to get the 
subsubsections and paragraphs numbered, or even create subsubsubsections, as 
described here:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=subsubsub

However, at least in German typography, sectioning level higher than 3 digits 
(e.g. 1.3.2.2) is considered bad style and a symptom that the author hasn't 
thought about his document structure well enough.

HTH,
Jürgen

[noob q] Recursive sections?

[Glenn Davy]

Hi 

I'm completely new to lyx, latex and tex (I've successfully avoided them for
years - all looked too intimidating). I've done the very easy lyx intro and
tutorial. I'm liking lyx (no pun) and tried using it today to do some 'real'
work.

 

I'm using using the default set of styles (is styles the correct word) with
section, subsection etc - but am running out of nested 'sections'. Docbook
SGML in its DTD has two  type of 'section'  tags the SECT[12345]  set and
also the SECTION tag, which allows you in theory to keep nesting SECTION
tags. I've never pushed it though, to see what the standard style sheets
will deal with in practice however.

 

Is there a template or layout readily available for lyx that will provide
that type of functionality? Alternatively what are my other options for
deeper nesting of subsections?

 

Thanks

Glenn

Re: [noob q] Recursive sections?

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, Glenn Davy wrote:
I'm using using the default set of styles (is styles the correct word)
with section, subsection etc - but am running out of nested 'sections'.
Docbook SGML in its DTD has two type of 'section' tags the SECT[12345] 
set and also the SECTION tag, which allows you in theory to keep nesting
SECTION tags. I've never pushed it though, to see what the standard
style sheets will deal with in practice however.
Is there a template or layout readily available for lyx that will provide
that type of functionality? Alternatively what are my other options for
deeper nesting of subsections?
Glenn,
  Let's use the same terms to avoid confusion.
  In LyX/LaTeX every document belongs to a class: book, report, article or
letter. Styles, represented by files with an extension of .sty, are
packages that add functionality not found in the original LaTeX. So, first
you need to decide what sort of document you are writing. You'll find this
in Layout-Document.
  The type of document determines the overall structure of sections. For
example, an article can have sections and subsections (nesting levels -- up
to 5 -- are also selected from that same dialog box). Reports and books can
also have chapters and books can have parts.
  After you select the document class you will be able to choose the
category of heading from the drop-down widget on the left, just above the
writing area. If you are writing a report, for example, you can mark a
heading (and its associated text) as chapter, section, subsesction,
sub-subsection, and paragraph.
  How many would you like? What, more precisely, is your concern? What is
your intended use/audience for your document? The experts have set default
values within LyX and LaTeX that make good sense. If you can use them, do
so.
HTH,
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

[noob q] Recursive sections?

[Glenn Davy]

Hi 

I'm completely new to lyx, latex and tex (I've successfully avoided them for
years - all looked too intimidating). I've done the very easy lyx intro and
tutorial. I'm liking lyx (no pun) and tried using it today to do some 'real'
work.

 

I'm using using the default set of styles (is styles the correct word) with
section, subsection etc - but am running out of nested 'sections'. Docbook
SGML in its DTD has two  type of 'section'  tags the SECT[12345]  set and
also the SECTION tag, which allows you in theory to keep nesting SECTION
tags. I've never pushed it though, to see what the standard style sheets
will deal with in practice however.

 

Is there a template or layout readily available for lyx that will provide
that type of functionality? Alternatively what are my other options for
deeper nesting of subsections?

 

Thanks

Glenn

Re: [noob q] Recursive sections?

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, Glenn Davy wrote:
I'm using using the default set of styles (is styles the correct word)
with section, subsection etc - but am running out of nested 'sections'.
Docbook SGML in its DTD has two type of 'section' tags the SECT[12345] 
set and also the SECTION tag, which allows you in theory to keep nesting
SECTION tags. I've never pushed it though, to see what the standard
style sheets will deal with in practice however.
Is there a template or layout readily available for lyx that will provide
that type of functionality? Alternatively what are my other options for
deeper nesting of subsections?
Glenn,
  Let's use the same terms to avoid confusion.
  In LyX/LaTeX every document belongs to a class: book, report, article or
letter. Styles, represented by files with an extension of .sty, are
packages that add functionality not found in the original LaTeX. So, first
you need to decide what sort of document you are writing. You'll find this
in Layout-Document.
  The type of document determines the overall structure of sections. For
example, an article can have sections and subsections (nesting levels -- up
to 5 -- are also selected from that same dialog box). Reports and books can
also have chapters and books can have parts.
  After you select the document class you will be able to choose the
category of heading from the drop-down widget on the left, just above the
writing area. If you are writing a report, for example, you can mark a
heading (and its associated text) as chapter, section, subsesction,
sub-subsection, and paragraph.
  How many would you like? What, more precisely, is your concern? What is
your intended use/audience for your document? The experts have set default
values within LyX and LaTeX that make good sense. If you can use them, do
so.
HTH,
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

[noob q] Recursive sections?

[Glenn Davy]

Hi 

I'm completely new to lyx, latex and tex (I've successfully avoided them for
years - all looked too intimidating). I've done the very easy lyx intro and
tutorial. I'm liking lyx (no pun) and tried using it today to do some 'real'
work.

 

I'm using using the default set of styles (is styles the correct word) with
section, subsection etc - but am running out of nested 'sections'. Docbook
SGML in its DTD has two  type of 'section'  tags the  set and
also the  tag, which allows you in theory to keep nesting 
tags. I've never pushed it though, to see what the standard style sheets
will deal with in practice however.

 

Is there a template or layout readily available for lyx that will provide
that type of functionality? Alternatively what are my other options for
deeper nesting of subsections?

 

Thanks

Glenn

Re: [noob q] Recursive sections?

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, Glenn Davy wrote:
I'm using using the default set of styles (is styles the correct word)
with section, subsection etc - but am running out of nested 'sections'.
Docbook SGML in its DTD has two type of 'section' tags the 
set and also the  tag, which allows you in theory to keep nesting
 tags. I've never pushed it though, to see what the standard
style sheets will deal with in practice however.
Is there a template or layout readily available for lyx that will provide
that type of functionality? Alternatively what are my other options for
deeper nesting of subsections?
Glenn,
  Let's use the same terms to avoid confusion.
  In LyX/LaTeX every document belongs to a class: book, report, article or
letter. "Styles", represented by files with an extension of .sty, are
packages that add functionality not found in the original LaTeX. So, first
you need to decide what sort of document you are writing. You'll find this
in Layout->Document.
  The type of document determines the overall structure of sections. For
example, an article can have sections and subsections (nesting levels -- up
to 5 -- are also selected from that same dialog box). Reports and books can
also have chapters and books can have parts.
  After you select the document class you will be able to choose the
category of heading from the drop-down widget on the left, just above the
writing area. If you are writing a report, for example, you can mark a
heading (and its associated text) as chapter, section, subsesction,
sub-subsection, and paragraph.
  How many would you like? What, more precisely, is your concern? What is
your intended use/audience for your document? The experts have set default
values within LyX and LaTeX that make good sense. If you can use them, do
so.
HTH,
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863