Re: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 11:53:01PM +1100, Glenn Davy wrote:
 I imagine given the 'structured' nature of lyx that this isn't possible?

It's almost impossible to do with (La)TeX, so it is not exactly LyX's
fault that this is not possible.

 Correct? Is it however possible to use some LaTeX tricks to achieve this?

Not really.

 Perhaps use LaTex to 'flow' a Lyx 'article' through some equivalent?
 Another possible solution?

There is an example in Knuth's TeXbook that shows text floating around a
circle, but you have to manually compute all the line length needed and
it is a real pain to do so for more than one paragraph. It might be
possible to automate that task a bit, but this is not on LyX's radar so
far.

Andre'

Re: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Herbert Voss]

Andre Poenitz wrote:
There is an example in Knuth's TeXbook that shows text floating around a
circle, but you have to manually compute all the line length needed and
it is a real pain to do so for more than one paragraph. It might be
possible to automate that task a bit, but this is not on LyX's radar so
far.
- shapepar.sty
Herbert
--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes

RE: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Glenn Davy]

Hi Rich and group
I'm getting the idea that its not going to happen this for me.
However, as you suggest I'll state what I had in mind JIC.

In the late '80s and early '90's  I did a lot of work in, pagestream on the
Atari ST, and then pagemaker.

What I would do is edit 'stories' using styles (which I now know is analog
to class in lyx), then 'place' them on the page, often breaking the story up
and interleaving it 'zine style with other stories etc. 

So now I know that lyx has no pretentions when it comes to 'pagelayout',
however its strict use of 'classes' means that it's a model editor for
articles/stories etc. I'm hoping I can then 'import' these lyx or latex
files into another pagelayout tool, which will understand and respect the
lxy template/class system.

I'm guessing the answer is no, however will be interested to hear otherwise.
If not no worries, I'll just continue my journey into lyx,latex,tex and a
less urgent rate

 Thx
Glenn

-Original Message-
From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 20 February 2005 9:38 AM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: RE: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005, Glenn Davy wrote:

 Does anyone know of a page layout tools that an utilise content created
 with Lyx/LaTex and 'lay' it out in a manner described? Lyx seems like a
 great way to author content.

Glenn,

   It still looks like you are asking for more work than you need. From the
above I think you really want a page layout program (i.e., Scribus) for your
product and output, but you don't want to write in that environment.

   You have two options: 1) write in LyX then use File-Export-ASCII or B)
use a plain text editor (emacs, vim, joe, ...) and skip the intervening
step. I assume that page layout programs accept plain text as input.

   Perhaps you can explain what you want to accomplish. Then we can offer
more focused sugestions.

HTH,

Rich

-- 
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 11:53:01PM +1100, Glenn Davy wrote:
 I imagine given the 'structured' nature of lyx that this isn't possible?

It's almost impossible to do with (La)TeX, so it is not exactly LyX's
fault that this is not possible.

 Correct? Is it however possible to use some LaTeX tricks to achieve this?

Not really.

 Perhaps use LaTex to 'flow' a Lyx 'article' through some equivalent?
 Another possible solution?

There is an example in Knuth's TeXbook that shows text floating around a
circle, but you have to manually compute all the line length needed and
it is a real pain to do so for more than one paragraph. It might be
possible to automate that task a bit, but this is not on LyX's radar so
far.

Andre'

Re: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Herbert Voss]

Andre Poenitz wrote:
There is an example in Knuth's TeXbook that shows text floating around a
circle, but you have to manually compute all the line length needed and
it is a real pain to do so for more than one paragraph. It might be
possible to automate that task a bit, but this is not on LyX's radar so
far.
- shapepar.sty
Herbert
--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes

RE: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Glenn Davy]

Hi Rich and group
I'm getting the idea that its not going to happen this for me.
However, as you suggest I'll state what I had in mind JIC.

In the late '80s and early '90's  I did a lot of work in, pagestream on the
Atari ST, and then pagemaker.

What I would do is edit 'stories' using styles (which I now know is analog
to class in lyx), then 'place' them on the page, often breaking the story up
and interleaving it 'zine style with other stories etc. 

So now I know that lyx has no pretentions when it comes to 'pagelayout',
however its strict use of 'classes' means that it's a model editor for
articles/stories etc. I'm hoping I can then 'import' these lyx or latex
files into another pagelayout tool, which will understand and respect the
lxy template/class system.

I'm guessing the answer is no, however will be interested to hear otherwise.
If not no worries, I'll just continue my journey into lyx,latex,tex and a
less urgent rate

 Thx
Glenn

-Original Message-
From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 20 February 2005 9:38 AM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: RE: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005, Glenn Davy wrote:

 Does anyone know of a page layout tools that an utilise content created
 with Lyx/LaTex and 'lay' it out in a manner described? Lyx seems like a
 great way to author content.

Glenn,

   It still looks like you are asking for more work than you need. From the
above I think you really want a page layout program (i.e., Scribus) for your
product and output, but you don't want to write in that environment.

   You have two options: 1) write in LyX then use File-Export-ASCII or B)
use a plain text editor (emacs, vim, joe, ...) and skip the intervening
step. I assume that page layout programs accept plain text as input.

   Perhaps you can explain what you want to accomplish. Then we can offer
more focused sugestions.

HTH,

Rich

-- 
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Andre Poenitz]

On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 11:53:01PM +1100, Glenn Davy wrote:
> I imagine given the 'structured' nature of lyx that this isn't possible?

It's almost impossible to do with (La)TeX, so it is not exactly LyX's
fault that this is not possible.

> Correct? Is it however possible to use some LaTeX tricks to achieve this?

Not really.

> Perhaps use LaTex to 'flow' a Lyx 'article' through some equivalent?
> Another possible solution?

There is an example in Knuth's TeXbook that shows text floating around a
circle, but you have to manually compute all the line length needed and
it is a real pain to do so for more than one paragraph. It might be
possible to automate that task a bit, but this is not on LyX's radar so
far.

Andre'

Re: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Herbert Voss]

Andre Poenitz wrote:
There is an example in Knuth's TeXbook that shows text floating around a
circle, but you have to manually compute all the line length needed and
it is a real pain to do so for more than one paragraph. It might be
possible to automate that task a bit, but this is not on LyX's radar so
far.
-> shapepar.sty
Herbert
--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes

RE: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Glenn Davy]

Hi Rich and group
I'm getting the idea that its not going to happen this for me.
However, as you suggest I'll state what I had in mind JIC.

In the late '80s and early '90's  I did a lot of work in, pagestream on the
Atari ST, and then pagemaker.

What I would do is edit 'stories' using styles (which I now know is analog
to class in lyx), then 'place' them on the page, often breaking the story up
and interleaving it 'zine style with other stories etc. 

So now I know that lyx has no pretentions when it comes to 'pagelayout',
however its strict use of 'classes' means that it's a model editor for
articles/stories etc. I'm hoping I can then 'import' these lyx or latex
files into another pagelayout tool, which will understand and respect the
lxy template/class system.

I'm guessing the answer is no, however will be interested to hear otherwise.
If not no worries, I'll just continue my journey into lyx,latex,tex and a
less urgent rate

 Thx
Glenn

-Original Message-
From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 20 February 2005 9:38 AM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: RE: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005, Glenn Davy wrote:

> Does anyone know of a page layout tools that an utilise content created
> with Lyx/LaTex and 'lay' it out in a manner described? Lyx seems like a
> great way to author content.

Glenn,

   It still looks like you are asking for more work than you need. From the
above I think you really want a page layout program (i.e., Scribus) for your
product and output, but you don't want to write in that environment.

   You have two options: 1) write in LyX then use File->Export->ASCII or B)
use a plain text editor (emacs, vim, joe, ...) and skip the intervening
step. I assume that page layout programs accept plain text as input.

   Perhaps you can explain what you want to accomplish. Then we can offer
more focused sugestions.

HTH,

Rich

-- 
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
<http://www.appl-ecosys.com>   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

[nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Glenn Davy]

Hi again - just a newbie trying to wear out his welcome.

In programs like pagemaker, or scribus its possible to place boxes at (often
indiscriminant) places throught a document, and have a 'story' flow through
them. 

 

I imagine given the 'structured' nature of lyx that this isn't possible?
Correct? Is it however possible to use some LaTeX tricks to achieve this?
Perhaps use LaTex to 'flow' a Lyx 'article' through some equivalent? Another
possible solution?

 

At this point I'm not asking for a  detailed solution (unless you've just
got to much time on your hands), rather just to know If I'm barking up the
wrong tree completely, or is it worth investigating further (and if so a
possible starting poing ;-) )?

Re: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, Glenn Davy wrote:
In programs like pagemaker, or scribus its possible to place boxes at
(often indiscriminant) places throught a document, and have a 'story' flow
through them.
I imagine given the 'structured' nature of lyx that this isn't possible?
Correct? Is it however possible to use some LaTeX tricks to achieve this?
Perhaps use LaTex to 'flow' a Lyx 'article' through some equivalent?
Another possible solution?

At this point I'm not asking for a  detailed solution (unless you've just
got to much time on your hands), rather just to know If I'm barking up the
wrong tree completely, or is it worth investigating further (and if so a
possible starting poing ;-) )?
Glenn,
  The short answer is, no. LyX/LaTeX is not a page layout tool. It is
designed for written documents that are primarily textual, not graphic. You
mention Scribus and Framemaker, but you don't mention OpenOffice.org's
Writer or (gak!) winWord. Why? Because the page layout applications (Scribus
and Framemaker) are intended for a different purpose than is a word
processor. To understand the difference, open a book and a magazine and
compare the page layouts side-by-side.
  From your messages it appears to me that you want a page layout
application where you spend your time designing the page and moving frames,
graphics and pretty text all around. That's not the purpose of LyX/LaTeX.
The latter is designed for those who focus on content and let the underlying
TeX control the typesetting so it looks good on paper. Mathematical
equations, figures and tables are the usual additions to text. The focus of
the writer is on content, not appearance.
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

RE: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Glenn Davy]

Thanks Rich - Makes perfect sense - can I take the question one step further
- does anyone know of a page layout tools that an utilise content created
with Lyx/LaTex and 'lay' it out in a manner described? Lyx seems like a
great way to author content.

Thanks
Glenn
-Original Message-
From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 20 February 2005 1:24 AM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, Glenn Davy wrote:

 In programs like pagemaker, or scribus its possible to place boxes at
 (often indiscriminant) places throught a document, and have a 'story' flow
 through them.

 I imagine given the 'structured' nature of lyx that this isn't possible?
 Correct? Is it however possible to use some LaTeX tricks to achieve this?
 Perhaps use LaTex to 'flow' a Lyx 'article' through some equivalent?
 Another possible solution?

 At this point I'm not asking for a  detailed solution (unless you've just
 got to much time on your hands), rather just to know If I'm barking up the
 wrong tree completely, or is it worth investigating further (and if so a
 possible starting poing ;-) )?

Glenn,

   The short answer is, no. LyX/LaTeX is not a page layout tool. It is
designed for written documents that are primarily textual, not graphic. You
mention Scribus and Framemaker, but you don't mention OpenOffice.org's
Writer or (gak!) winWord. Why? Because the page layout applications (Scribus
and Framemaker) are intended for a different purpose than is a word
processor. To understand the difference, open a book and a magazine and
compare the page layouts side-by-side.

   From your messages it appears to me that you want a page layout
application where you spend your time designing the page and moving frames,
graphics and pretty text all around. That's not the purpose of LyX/LaTeX.
The latter is designed for those who focus on content and let the underlying
TeX control the typesetting so it looks good on paper. Mathematical
equations, figures and tables are the usual additions to text. The focus of
the writer is on content, not appearance.

Rich

-- 
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

RE: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005, Glenn Davy wrote:
Does anyone know of a page layout tools that an utilise content created
with Lyx/LaTex and 'lay' it out in a manner described? Lyx seems like a
great way to author content.
Glenn,
  It still looks like you are asking for more work than you need. From the
above I think you really want a page layout program (i.e., Scribus) for your
product and output, but you don't want to write in that environment.
  You have two options: 1) write in LyX then use File-Export-ASCII or B)
use a plain text editor (emacs, vim, joe, ...) and skip the intervening
step. I assume that page layout programs accept plain text as input.
  Perhaps you can explain what you want to accomplish. Then we can offer
more focused sugestions.
HTH,
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

[nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Glenn Davy]

Hi again - just a newbie trying to wear out his welcome.

In programs like pagemaker, or scribus its possible to place boxes at (often
indiscriminant) places throught a document, and have a 'story' flow through
them. 

 

I imagine given the 'structured' nature of lyx that this isn't possible?
Correct? Is it however possible to use some LaTeX tricks to achieve this?
Perhaps use LaTex to 'flow' a Lyx 'article' through some equivalent? Another
possible solution?

 

At this point I'm not asking for a  detailed solution (unless you've just
got to much time on your hands), rather just to know If I'm barking up the
wrong tree completely, or is it worth investigating further (and if so a
possible starting poing ;-) )?

Re: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, Glenn Davy wrote:
In programs like pagemaker, or scribus its possible to place boxes at
(often indiscriminant) places throught a document, and have a 'story' flow
through them.
I imagine given the 'structured' nature of lyx that this isn't possible?
Correct? Is it however possible to use some LaTeX tricks to achieve this?
Perhaps use LaTex to 'flow' a Lyx 'article' through some equivalent?
Another possible solution?

At this point I'm not asking for a  detailed solution (unless you've just
got to much time on your hands), rather just to know If I'm barking up the
wrong tree completely, or is it worth investigating further (and if so a
possible starting poing ;-) )?
Glenn,
  The short answer is, no. LyX/LaTeX is not a page layout tool. It is
designed for written documents that are primarily textual, not graphic. You
mention Scribus and Framemaker, but you don't mention OpenOffice.org's
Writer or (gak!) winWord. Why? Because the page layout applications (Scribus
and Framemaker) are intended for a different purpose than is a word
processor. To understand the difference, open a book and a magazine and
compare the page layouts side-by-side.
  From your messages it appears to me that you want a page layout
application where you spend your time designing the page and moving frames,
graphics and pretty text all around. That's not the purpose of LyX/LaTeX.
The latter is designed for those who focus on content and let the underlying
TeX control the typesetting so it looks good on paper. Mathematical
equations, figures and tables are the usual additions to text. The focus of
the writer is on content, not appearance.
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

RE: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Glenn Davy]

Thanks Rich - Makes perfect sense - can I take the question one step further
- does anyone know of a page layout tools that an utilise content created
with Lyx/LaTex and 'lay' it out in a manner described? Lyx seems like a
great way to author content.

Thanks
Glenn
-Original Message-
From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 20 February 2005 1:24 AM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, Glenn Davy wrote:

 In programs like pagemaker, or scribus its possible to place boxes at
 (often indiscriminant) places throught a document, and have a 'story' flow
 through them.

 I imagine given the 'structured' nature of lyx that this isn't possible?
 Correct? Is it however possible to use some LaTeX tricks to achieve this?
 Perhaps use LaTex to 'flow' a Lyx 'article' through some equivalent?
 Another possible solution?

 At this point I'm not asking for a  detailed solution (unless you've just
 got to much time on your hands), rather just to know If I'm barking up the
 wrong tree completely, or is it worth investigating further (and if so a
 possible starting poing ;-) )?

Glenn,

   The short answer is, no. LyX/LaTeX is not a page layout tool. It is
designed for written documents that are primarily textual, not graphic. You
mention Scribus and Framemaker, but you don't mention OpenOffice.org's
Writer or (gak!) winWord. Why? Because the page layout applications (Scribus
and Framemaker) are intended for a different purpose than is a word
processor. To understand the difference, open a book and a magazine and
compare the page layouts side-by-side.

   From your messages it appears to me that you want a page layout
application where you spend your time designing the page and moving frames,
graphics and pretty text all around. That's not the purpose of LyX/LaTeX.
The latter is designed for those who focus on content and let the underlying
TeX control the typesetting so it looks good on paper. Mathematical
equations, figures and tables are the usual additions to text. The focus of
the writer is on content, not appearance.

Rich

-- 
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

RE: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005, Glenn Davy wrote:
Does anyone know of a page layout tools that an utilise content created
with Lyx/LaTex and 'lay' it out in a manner described? Lyx seems like a
great way to author content.
Glenn,
  It still looks like you are asking for more work than you need. From the
above I think you really want a page layout program (i.e., Scribus) for your
product and output, but you don't want to write in that environment.
  You have two options: 1) write in LyX then use File-Export-ASCII or B)
use a plain text editor (emacs, vim, joe, ...) and skip the intervening
step. I assume that page layout programs accept plain text as input.
  Perhaps you can explain what you want to accomplish. Then we can offer
more focused sugestions.
HTH,
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

[nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Glenn Davy]

Hi again - just a newbie trying to wear out his welcome.

In programs like pagemaker, or scribus its possible to place boxes at (often
indiscriminant) places throught a document, and have a 'story' flow through
them. 

 

I imagine given the 'structured' nature of lyx that this isn't possible?
Correct? Is it however possible to use some LaTeX tricks to achieve this?
Perhaps use LaTex to 'flow' a Lyx 'article' through some equivalent? Another
possible solution?

 

At this point I'm not asking for a  detailed solution (unless you've just
got to much time on your hands), rather just to know If I'm barking up the
wrong tree completely, or is it worth investigating further (and if so a
possible starting poing ;-) )?

Re: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, Glenn Davy wrote:
In programs like pagemaker, or scribus its possible to place boxes at
(often indiscriminant) places throught a document, and have a 'story' flow
through them.
I imagine given the 'structured' nature of lyx that this isn't possible?
Correct? Is it however possible to use some LaTeX tricks to achieve this?
Perhaps use LaTex to 'flow' a Lyx 'article' through some equivalent?
Another possible solution?

At this point I'm not asking for a  detailed solution (unless you've just
got to much time on your hands), rather just to know If I'm barking up the
wrong tree completely, or is it worth investigating further (and if so a
possible starting poing ;-) )?
Glenn,
  The short answer is, "no". LyX/LaTeX is not a page layout tool. It is
designed for written documents that are primarily textual, not graphic. You
mention Scribus and Framemaker, but you don't mention OpenOffice.org's
Writer or (gak!) winWord. Why? Because the page layout applications (Scribus
and Framemaker) are intended for a different purpose than is a word
processor. To understand the difference, open a book and a magazine and
compare the page layouts side-by-side.
  From your messages it appears to me that you want a page layout
application where you spend your time designing the page and moving frames,
graphics and pretty text all around. That's not the purpose of LyX/LaTeX.
The latter is designed for those who focus on content and let the underlying
TeX control the typesetting so it looks good on paper. Mathematical
equations, figures and tables are the usual additions to text. The focus of
the writer is on content, not appearance.
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

RE: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Glenn Davy]

Thanks Rich - Makes perfect sense - can I take the question one step further
- does anyone know of a page layout tools that an utilise content created
with Lyx/LaTex and 'lay' it out in a manner described? Lyx seems like a
great way to author content.

Thanks
Glenn
-Original Message-
From: Rich Shepard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 20 February 2005 1:24 AM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, Glenn Davy wrote:

> In programs like pagemaker, or scribus its possible to place boxes at
> (often indiscriminant) places throught a document, and have a 'story' flow
> through them.
>
> I imagine given the 'structured' nature of lyx that this isn't possible?
> Correct? Is it however possible to use some LaTeX tricks to achieve this?
> Perhaps use LaTex to 'flow' a Lyx 'article' through some equivalent?
> Another possible solution?

> At this point I'm not asking for a  detailed solution (unless you've just
> got to much time on your hands), rather just to know If I'm barking up the
> wrong tree completely, or is it worth investigating further (and if so a
> possible starting poing ;-) )?

Glenn,

   The short answer is, "no". LyX/LaTeX is not a page layout tool. It is
designed for written documents that are primarily textual, not graphic. You
mention Scribus and Framemaker, but you don't mention OpenOffice.org's
Writer or (gak!) winWord. Why? Because the page layout applications (Scribus
and Framemaker) are intended for a different purpose than is a word
processor. To understand the difference, open a book and a magazine and
compare the page layouts side-by-side.

   From your messages it appears to me that you want a page layout
application where you spend your time designing the page and moving frames,
graphics and pretty text all around. That's not the purpose of LyX/LaTeX.
The latter is designed for those who focus on content and let the underlying
TeX control the typesetting so it looks good on paper. Mathematical
equations, figures and tables are the usual additions to text. The focus of
the writer is on content, not appearance.

Rich

-- 
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
<http://www.appl-ecosys.com>   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

RE: [nooby q] 'linked' text flow

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005, Glenn Davy wrote:
Does anyone know of a page layout tools that an utilise content created
with Lyx/LaTex and 'lay' it out in a manner described? Lyx seems like a
great way to author content.
Glenn,
  It still looks like you are asking for more work than you need. From the
above I think you really want a page layout program (i.e., Scribus) for your
product and output, but you don't want to write in that environment.
  You have two options: 1) write in LyX then use File->Export->ASCII or B)
use a plain text editor (emacs, vim, joe, ...) and skip the intervening
step. I assume that page layout programs accept plain text as input.
  Perhaps you can explain what you want to accomplish. Then we can offer
more focused sugestions.
HTH,
Rich
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