Re: \reversemarginpar places notes too far out - SOLVED

2013-09-10 Thread Anthony Campbell 
On 09 Sep 2013, Les Denham wrote:
 On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:46:05 +0100
 Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote:
 
  As far as I can see this makes marginal notes unusable for the book
  class. Unless I'm wrong, perhaps it should be documented in the help
  files?
 
 Anthony,
 
 If you're using the book class, by default you are assumed to have
 chapters.
 
 If two-sided page layout is selected, a Chapter environment will
 automatically start on a right hand (odd numbered) page, inserting a
 blank page where necessary. So starting the text body with a chapter
 heading will solve the problem.
 
 Is there any special reason why you are not using the Title, Author,
 etc., environments for the title page?
 
 Personally, I prefer to use the book(KOMA-script) class (a lot more
 options, but defaults work well) or memoir class (an infinite number of
 options, a lot of them different from anything else in LaTeX, and an
 excellent manual, but a very steep learning curve), but the book class
 should work for what you're doing. Attached is a sample file to show
 what can be done.
 
 Les
 

I've already produced four books with this class so I'm fairly well used
to it. I tried Koma when I first began making books but didn't get on
with it, though I can't remember why.

Anyway, my probem is with the marginal note option. But I've now found a
workaround: the latex command \marginnote gives the marginal notes on
the right side of the page with double-sided printing. And inserting
blank pages doesn't upset things.




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Re: \reversemarginpar places notes too far out - SOLVED

2013-09-10 Thread Anthony Campbell 
On 09 Sep 2013, Les Denham wrote:
 On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:46:05 +0100
 Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote:
 
  As far as I can see this makes marginal notes unusable for the book
  class. Unless I'm wrong, perhaps it should be documented in the help
  files?
 
 Anthony,
 
 If you're using the book class, by default you are assumed to have
 chapters.
 
 If two-sided page layout is selected, a Chapter environment will
 automatically start on a right hand (odd numbered) page, inserting a
 blank page where necessary. So starting the text body with a chapter
 heading will solve the problem.
 
 Is there any special reason why you are not using the Title, Author,
 etc., environments for the title page?
 
 Personally, I prefer to use the book(KOMA-script) class (a lot more
 options, but defaults work well) or memoir class (an infinite number of
 options, a lot of them different from anything else in LaTeX, and an
 excellent manual, but a very steep learning curve), but the book class
 should work for what you're doing. Attached is a sample file to show
 what can be done.
 
 Les
 

I've already produced four books with this class so I'm fairly well used
to it. I tried Koma when I first began making books but didn't get on
with it, though I can't remember why.

Anyway, my probem is with the marginal note option. But I've now found a
workaround: the latex command \marginnote gives the marginal notes on
the right side of the page with double-sided printing. And inserting
blank pages doesn't upset things.




-- 
Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk 
http://www.acupuncturecourse.org.uk 
http://www.smashwords.com/profile.view/acampbell
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/artist/anthony-campbell/id73235412

Re: \reversemarginpar places notes too far out - SOLVED

2013-09-10 Thread Anthony Campbell 
On 09 Sep 2013, Les Denham wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:46:05 +0100
> Anthony Campbell  wrote:
> 
> > As far as I can see this makes marginal notes unusable for the book
> > class. Unless I'm wrong, perhaps it should be documented in the help
> > files?
> 
> Anthony,
> 
> If you're using the book class, by default you are assumed to have
> chapters.
> 
> If two-sided page layout is selected, a Chapter environment will
> automatically start on a right hand (odd numbered) page, inserting a
> blank page where necessary. So starting the text body with a chapter
> heading will solve the problem.
> 
> Is there any special reason why you are not using the Title, Author,
> etc., environments for the title page?
> 
> Personally, I prefer to use the book(KOMA-script) class (a lot more
> options, but defaults work well) or memoir class (an infinite number of
> options, a lot of them different from anything else in LaTeX, and an
> excellent manual, but a very steep learning curve), but the book class
> should work for what you're doing. Attached is a sample file to show
> what can be done.
> 
> Les
> 

I've already produced four books with this class so I'm fairly well used
to it. I tried Koma when I first began making books but didn't get on
with it, though I can't remember why.

Anyway, my probem is with the marginal note option. But I've now found a
workaround: the latex command \marginnote gives the marginal notes on
the right side of the page with double-sided printing. And inserting
blank pages doesn't upset things.




-- 
Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk 
http://www.acupuncturecourse.org.uk 
http://www.smashwords.com/profile.view/acampbell
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/artist/anthony-campbell/id73235412

Re: \reversemarginpar places notes too far out - update

2013-09-09 Thread Anthony Campbell 
On 02 Sep 2013, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 I'm writing a book (book class) in which I want to have marginal notes
 containing symbols, rather like the Dummies series. As it's a book I'm
 using the two-sided layout.
 
 This works OK using the marginal note command, but after I put a blank
 page at the beginning (needed to make the title page etc. appear on the
 correct side), the marginal notes come out on the wrong sides of the
 pages in the body of the text. 
 
 I found the command \reversemarginpar, which corrects the error except
 that the notes are now too far away from the text, right at the edge of
 the page. 
 
 Any way to fix this? I tried adding width arguments, e.g. [width=12pt]
 and [width=0.5in] without effect.
 

Since no one has answered this I have dug further and come up with this
bug report from 1999, saying that it is due to a deep problem in the
Latex engine:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg05248.html

The only workaround suggested is to put \clearpage or \eject above the
section header, but of course this introduces an unwanted page break. 

As far as I can see this makes marginal notes unusuable for the book
class. Unless I'm wrong, perhaps it should be documented in the help
files?

Anthony

-- 
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http://www.acupuncturecourse.org.uk 
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Re: \reversemarginpar places notes too far out - update

2013-09-09 Thread Les Denham 
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:46:05 +0100
Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote:

 As far as I can see this makes marginal notes unusuable for the book
 class. Unless I'm wrong, perhaps it should be documented in the help
 files?

Anthony,

If you're using the book class, by default you are assumed to have
chapters.

If two-sided page layout is selected, a Chapter environment will
automatically start on a right hand (odd numbered) page, inserting a
blank page where necessary. So starting the text body with a chapter
heading will solve the problem.

Is there any special reason why you are not using the Title, Author,
etc., environments for the title page?

Personally, I prefer to use the book(KOMA-script) class (a lot more
options, but defaults work well) or memoir class (an infinite number of
options, a lot of them different from anything else in LaTeX, and an
excellent manual, but a very steep learning curve), but the book class
should work for what you're doing. Attached is a sample file to show
what can be done.

Les

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http://lrdenham.wordpress.com/
Escaping Texas -- from danger to disaster?
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MarginNoteTest.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: \reversemarginpar places notes too far out - update

2013-09-09 Thread Anthony Campbell 
On 02 Sep 2013, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 I'm writing a book (book class) in which I want to have marginal notes
 containing symbols, rather like the Dummies series. As it's a book I'm
 using the two-sided layout.
 
 This works OK using the marginal note command, but after I put a blank
 page at the beginning (needed to make the title page etc. appear on the
 correct side), the marginal notes come out on the wrong sides of the
 pages in the body of the text. 
 
 I found the command \reversemarginpar, which corrects the error except
 that the notes are now too far away from the text, right at the edge of
 the page. 
 
 Any way to fix this? I tried adding width arguments, e.g. [width=12pt]
 and [width=0.5in] without effect.
 

Since no one has answered this I have dug further and come up with this
bug report from 1999, saying that it is due to a deep problem in the
Latex engine:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg05248.html

The only workaround suggested is to put \clearpage or \eject above the
section header, but of course this introduces an unwanted page break. 

As far as I can see this makes marginal notes unusuable for the book
class. Unless I'm wrong, perhaps it should be documented in the help
files?

Anthony

-- 
Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk 
http://www.acupuncturecourse.org.uk 
http://www.smashwords.com/profile.view/acampbell
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/artist/anthony-campbell/id73235412

Re: \reversemarginpar places notes too far out - update

2013-09-09 Thread Les Denham 
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:46:05 +0100
Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote:

 As far as I can see this makes marginal notes unusuable for the book
 class. Unless I'm wrong, perhaps it should be documented in the help
 files?

Anthony,

If you're using the book class, by default you are assumed to have
chapters.

If two-sided page layout is selected, a Chapter environment will
automatically start on a right hand (odd numbered) page, inserting a
blank page where necessary. So starting the text body with a chapter
heading will solve the problem.

Is there any special reason why you are not using the Title, Author,
etc., environments for the title page?

Personally, I prefer to use the book(KOMA-script) class (a lot more
options, but defaults work well) or memoir class (an infinite number of
options, a lot of them different from anything else in LaTeX, and an
excellent manual, but a very steep learning curve), but the book class
should work for what you're doing. Attached is a sample file to show
what can be done.

Les

-- 
L. R. Denham
http://lrdenham.wordpress.com/
Escaping Texas -- from danger to disaster?
http://www.amazon.com/Escaping-Texas-ebook/dp/B00ECHNF72/
http://www.lulu.com/shop/l-r-denham/escaping-texas/ebook/product-21002003.html


MarginNoteTest.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: \reversemarginpar places notes too far out - update

2013-09-09 Thread Anthony Campbell 
On 02 Sep 2013, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> I'm writing a book (book class) in which I want to have marginal notes
> containing symbols, rather like the Dummies series. As it's a book I'm
> using the two-sided layout.
> 
> This works OK using the marginal note command, but after I put a blank
> page at the beginning (needed to make the title page etc. appear on the
> correct side), the marginal notes come out on the wrong sides of the
> pages in the body of the text. 
> 
> I found the command \reversemarginpar, which corrects the error except
> that the notes are now too far away from the text, right at the edge of
> the page. 
> 
> Any way to fix this? I tried adding width arguments, e.g. [width=12pt]
> and [width=0.5in] without effect.
> 

Since no one has answered this I have dug further and come up with this
bug report from 1999, saying that it is due to a deep problem in the
Latex engine:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg05248.html

The only workaround suggested is to put \clearpage or \eject above the
section header, but of course this introduces an unwanted page break. 

As far as I can see this makes marginal notes unusuable for the book
class. Unless I'm wrong, perhaps it should be documented in the help
files?

Anthony

-- 
Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk 
http://www.acupuncturecourse.org.uk 
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https://itunes.apple.com/ca/artist/anthony-campbell/id73235412

Re: \reversemarginpar places notes too far out - update

2013-09-09 Thread Les Denham 
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:46:05 +0100
Anthony Campbell  wrote:

> As far as I can see this makes marginal notes unusuable for the book
> class. Unless I'm wrong, perhaps it should be documented in the help
> files?

Anthony,

If you're using the book class, by default you are assumed to have
chapters.

If two-sided page layout is selected, a Chapter environment will
automatically start on a right hand (odd numbered) page, inserting a
blank page where necessary. So starting the text body with a chapter
heading will solve the problem.

Is there any special reason why you are not using the Title, Author,
etc., environments for the title page?

Personally, I prefer to use the book(KOMA-script) class (a lot more
options, but defaults work well) or memoir class (an infinite number of
options, a lot of them different from anything else in LaTeX, and an
excellent manual, but a very steep learning curve), but the book class
should work for what you're doing. Attached is a sample file to show
what can be done.

Les

-- 
L. R. Denham
http://lrdenham.wordpress.com/
"Escaping Texas" -- from danger to disaster?
http://www.amazon.com/Escaping-Texas-ebook/dp/B00ECHNF72/
http://www.lulu.com/shop/l-r-denham/escaping-texas/ebook/product-21002003.html


MarginNoteTest.lyx
Description: application/lyx

\reversemarginpar places notes too far out

2013-09-02 Thread Anthony Campbell 
I'm writing a book (book class) in which I want to have marginal notes
containing symbols, rather like the Dummies series. As it's a book I'm
using the two-sided layout.

This works OK using the marginal note command, but after I put a blank
page at the beginning (needed to make the title page etc. appear on the
correct side), the marginal notes come out on the wrong sides of the
pages in the body of the text. 

I found the command \reversemarginpar, which corrects the error except
that the notes are now too far away from the text, right at the edge of
the page. 

Any way to fix this? I tried adding width arguments, e.g. [width=12pt]
and [width=0.5in] without effect.

Anthony

-- 
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http://www.acupuncturecourse.org.uk 
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\reversemarginpar places notes too far out

2013-09-02 Thread Anthony Campbell 
I'm writing a book (book class) in which I want to have marginal notes
containing symbols, rather like the Dummies series. As it's a book I'm
using the two-sided layout.

This works OK using the marginal note command, but after I put a blank
page at the beginning (needed to make the title page etc. appear on the
correct side), the marginal notes come out on the wrong sides of the
pages in the body of the text. 

I found the command \reversemarginpar, which corrects the error except
that the notes are now too far away from the text, right at the edge of
the page. 

Any way to fix this? I tried adding width arguments, e.g. [width=12pt]
and [width=0.5in] without effect.

Anthony

-- 
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http://www.acupuncturecourse.org.uk 
http://www.smashwords.com/profile.view/acampbell
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/artist/anthony-campbell/id73235412

\reversemarginpar places notes too far out

2013-09-02 Thread Anthony Campbell 
I'm writing a book (book class) in which I want to have marginal notes
containing symbols, rather like the Dummies series. As it's a book I'm
using the two-sided layout.

This works OK using the marginal note command, but after I put a blank
page at the beginning (needed to make the title page etc. appear on the
correct side), the marginal notes come out on the wrong sides of the
pages in the body of the text. 

I found the command \reversemarginpar, which corrects the error except
that the notes are now too far away from the text, right at the edge of
the page. 

Any way to fix this? I tried adding width arguments, e.g. [width=12pt]
and [width=0.5in] without effect.

Anthony

-- 
Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk 
http://www.acupuncturecourse.org.uk 
http://www.smashwords.com/profile.view/acampbell
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/artist/anthony-campbell/id73235412