Convert Mac Word and Thesis to LyX

[Brian Kneller via lyx-users]

Hi, 

I hope I am in the correct space. — I have prepared a thesis for a PhD  (75K 
words)and approx 80 figures, the text in Mac-word and the figures are in Adobe 
Illustrator so I have some flexibility in Format. Also there are many 
references. I hold all my references and comments on them in Bookends. I regret 
not looking at lyx/latex and using them much earlier so I am looking for an 
easy way to migrate this info into Lyx and I am also looking for a Thesis  
template. I have dowloaded and installed Lyx on my Macbook Pro (Mavericks) and 
been thro the intro etc. I am trying to minimise the effort in migration to Lyx 
so any comments and advice is most welcome.

Thanks in anticipation

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LyX v2.4.0 RC4 -> Table styles??

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

I've read large portions of the documentation, and am eager to try the Table 
style facility of LyX v2.4.0. I'm on Windows 11, and play with RC4.



When I do Insert/Table…, this is what I get.

[cid:image001.png@01DA9106.80E67870]



In the Style menu, “Default” is the only possible option. If I click on the 
[cid:image002.png@01DA9106.80E67870]  icon, the only possibility is to choose 
the table size.



If I insert the table and right-click on it, everything related to other styles 
than the default is grayed out:

[cid:image003.png@01DA9106.B1A0AEE0]



  *   I’m confused. What is it that I do that is incorrect?
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RE: LyX v2.4.0 RC4 -> Unicode in Program Listing (again...)

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

I'm not using gnuplot at all. But I assume you mean that as long as I have 
produced the input (e.g., Unicode files, plots, etc.), there should be no 
problem. 

-Original Message-
From: José Matos  
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 6:52 PM
To: Bernt Lie ; lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org; lyx-users 

Subject: Re: LyX v2.4.0 RC4 -> Unicode in Program Listing (again...)

On Wed, 2024-04-17 at 13:17 +, Bernt Lie wrote:
> Question 1:
>  * Dangerous, because LyX is more likely to *crash*, or
>  * Dangerous, because it opens up my computer to hacking??

The script that you call can run any code using the gnuplot "system"
call. That is the same as having access to a shell...

If the gnuplot files that you use are your own, or from one that you trust, 
then there is no risk... or actually the same risk that you had if you run the 
script outside of LyX.
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Re: LyX v2.4.0 RC4 -> Unicode in Program Listing (again...)

[José Matos]

On Wed, 2024-04-17 at 13:17 +, Bernt Lie wrote:
> Question 1:
>  * Dangerous, because LyX is more likely to *crash*, or
>  * Dangerous, because it opens up my computer to hacking??

The script that you call can run any code using the gnuplot "system"
call. That is the same as having access to a shell...

If the gnuplot files that you use are your own, or from one that you
trust, then there is no risk... or actually the same risk that you had
if you run the script outside of LyX.
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Re: Not able to spellcheck in RC4 under Linux

[Eckhard Höffner]

Maybe you need enchant (default on debian), it uses different spell 
checkers.


Am 17.04.24 um 5:41 PM schrieb Christopher Menzel:

I have compiled LyX 2.4-RC4 under Kali Linux and it works great but I am
  unable to spellcheck. Tools → Spellchecker is greyed out and LyX sees
no spellchecker engine under Preferences → Spellchecker. Hunspell and
the English dictionary are of course installed. I found an old thread
saying that Hunspell support had to be explicitly included at configure
time, but I believe Hunspell is now built in. At any rate, the old
“—use-hunspell” option is not recognized. Spellchecking via Hunspell
works fine in the MacOS version of RC4.
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Not able to spellcheck in RC4 under Linux

[Christopher Menzel]

Gentle LyX folk:

I have compiled LyX 2.4-RC4 under Kali Linux and it works great but I am unable 
to spellcheck. Tools → Spellchecker is greyed out and LyX sees no spellchecker 
engine under Preferences → Spellchecker. Hunspell and the English dictionary 
are of course installed. I found an old thread saying that Hunspell support had 
to be explicitly included at configure time, but I believe Hunspell is now 
built in. At any rate, the old “—use-hunspell” option is not recognized. 
Spellchecking via Hunspell works fine in the MacOS version of RC4.

Help/explanations much appreciated! Apologies if I’ve missed a relevant 
discussion.

Chris Menzel

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LyX v2.4 RC4 - keyboard shortcut

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

I just discovered the “character” shortcuts Alt + C…, e.g., Alt + C R for 
mathroman in math.



  *   I’m a touch typist, so I prefer to use keyboard shortcuts over menus
  *   I’m not a pianist, so I don’t have extremely independent movement of 
fingers
  *   Because the “Alt” key is on the lefthand side of the keyboard and the “C” 
 key also is on the lefthand side, this makes it very awkward to hold down the 
Alt key and at the same time hold down the C key.
  *   This difficulty is increased by that the Alt key should be hit with the 
*middle finger* (which must be bent in an awkward way to hit the Alt key). The 
problem is much less pronounced with the Ctrl key, which is hit with the pinkie.



Probably not a popular suggestion, but it would be much simpler to use Alt with 
a key on the righthand side of the keyboard, e.g., replacing Alt+C with Alt+K.






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RE: LyX v2.4.0 RC4 -> Unicode in Program Listing (again...)

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

OK… I just found I had put the “-shell-escape” string in the wrong cell…

I have now changed the preferences, and inserted this string in both of the 
XeTeX and LuaTeX converters from LaTeX to PDF.

Now, I get the (expected) warning that using the “-shell-escape” string is 
*dangerous*.

Question 1:

  *   Dangerous, because LyX is more likely to *crash*, or
  *   Dangerous, because it opens up my computer to hacking??

Experience – here is some listing in LyX:
[cid:image003.png@01DA90D8.A23B6C70]
This expression is taken from a Jupyter Notebook running in VSCode (language: 
Julia), where the symbols are created by “\frakm + TAB \dot + TAB = m\dot + TAB 
v”
…and here is what it looks like when I use XeTeX/LuaTeX:

[cid:image004.png@01DA90D8.F0F27C50]

Questions 2:

  *   Could I expect a better response if I install a font that supports 
Unicode, and specifies this font in the fonts scheme of Listings?
  *   If I install such a font with Unicode support (e.g., JuliaMono), would 
that rule out using XeTeX so that I should use LuaTeX?

Question 3:

  *   If I should use LuaTeX, how can I change LyX so that issuing command 
Ctrl+r produces the PDF using LuaTeX?

-B

From: Bernt Lie 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2024 7:22 PM
To: Bernt Lie ; lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org; lyx-users 

Subject: LyX v2.4.0 RC4 -> Unicode in Program Listing (again...)


OK -- this is the status on my on-going experimentation on Windows 11... (I 
hope I'm almost there):



1. I experiment with KOMA script Book

2. I have:

* Upgraded all packages in MikTeX

* Installed Pygments ("pip install Pygments" in Windows Prompt)

* Figured out where the "pygmetize" script is located on my computer,

  and added location to PATH.

* In the LyX document, Documents/Settings/Fonts, checked "use non-TeX fonts

* In the Documents/Settings/Listings, changed "Syntax Highlighting Package" 
to "minted"

  [This didn't work until I set the PATH to "pygmetize"]

* In Tools/Preferences/File Handling/Converters, added "-shell-escape" at 
the end

  of the Converter line:

[cid:image001.png@01DA90D8.479231F0]

  [This line is slightly different from the Embedded document, 
since that assumed pdflatex as converter).



3. STATUS:

[cid:image002.png@01DA90D8.479231F0]



QUESTION 1: What is wrong? I *did* envoke the “-shell-escape” flag, didn’t I?



QUESTION 2: By default, Ctrl+R is keyboard shortcut for generating PDF via 
pdflatex. After I chose “use non-TeX fonts”, Ctrl+R implies generating PDF via 
XeTeX. How can I change the set-up so that Ctrl+R implies using luatex?


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LyX v2.4.0 RC4 -> Unicode in Program Listing (again...)

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

OK -- this is the status on my on-going experimentation on Windows 11... (I 
hope I'm almost there):



1. I experiment with KOMA script Book

2. I have:

* Upgraded all packages in MikTeX

* Installed Pygments ("pip install Pygments" in Windows Prompt)

* Figured out where the "pygmetize" script is located on my computer,

  and added location to PATH.

* In the LyX document, Documents/Settings/Fonts, checked "use non-TeX fonts

* In the Documents/Settings/Listings, changed "Syntax Highlighting Package" 
to "minted"

  [This didn't work until I set the PATH to "pygmetize"]

* In Tools/Preferences/File Handling/Converters, added "-shell-escape" at 
the end

  of the Converter line:

[cid:image001.png@01DA9032.84834190]

  [This line is slightly different from the Embedded document, 
since that assumed pdflatex as converter).



3. STATUS:

[cid:image002.png@01DA9032.E4467C00]



QUESTION 1: What is wrong? I *did* envoke the “-shell-escape” flag, didn’t I?



QUESTION 2: By default, Ctrl+R is keyboard shortcut for generating PDF via 
pdflatex. After I chose “use non-TeX fonts”, Ctrl+R implies generating PDF via 
XeTeX. How can I change the set-up so that Ctrl+R implies using luatex?


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RE: color names make trouble

[Kees Zeelenberg]

On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 8:33 AM Andreas Plihal via lyx-users < 
 lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> wrote:

 

I have largely isolated the error (I am attaching the associated file). Now I'm 
faced with the fact that the error is apparently caused by the color names 
(RubineRed, Gray etc.) that I've been using without any problems for over a 
year! What is suddenly going on in the LYX/LATEX world?

 

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Andreas,

 

I'm not sure what's happening from your side, but if I disable the fonts you 
have and change "Gray" to "gray", then the line renders for me.

 

Thanks,

Joel 

 

In xcolor, Gray (with first letter in uppercase) is a color model, not a color. 
This can be changed by the option “svgnames” or by the option “dvipsnames”. 
Since here xolor is called by tikz, it is best to give this as an option to the 
documentclass. This worked for me, with pdflatex.

 

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Re: color names make trouble

[Joel Kulesza]

On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 8:33 AM Andreas Plihal via lyx-users <
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm working on a KOMA script book. It contains over a hundred graphics. One
> graphic is particularly complex and I've been working on it for several
> weeks. I drew about 50 curves in it, all of which are made point by point
> according to a complicated scheme:
>
>\draw [color=Gray] (0,1) -- (1,2) -- (2,3) -- (3,4);
>
> This has always worked very well so far. But a few days ago I suddenly
> got an error message.
>
>Package tikz Error: Giving up on this path. Did you forget a semicolon?
>
> I have largely isolated the error (I am attaching the associated file). Now
> I'm faced with the fact that the error is apparently caused by the color
> names (RubineRed, Gray etc.) that I've been using without any problems for
> over a year! What is suddenly going on in the LYX/LATEX world?
>
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Andreas,

I'm not sure what's happening from your side, but if I disable the fonts
you have and change "Gray" to "gray", then the line renders for me.

Thanks,
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color names make trouble

[Andreas Plihal via lyx-users]

Hi,

 

I'm working on a KOMA script book. It contains over a hundred graphics. One graphic is particularly complex and I've been working on it for several weeks. I drew about 50 curves in it, all of which are made point by point according to a complicated scheme: 

 

   \draw [color=Gray] (0,1) -- (1,2) -- (2,3) -- (3,4); 

 

This has always worked very well so far. But a few days ago I suddenly got an error message. 

 

   Package tikz Error: Giving up on this path. Did you forget a semicolon?

 

I have largely isolated the error (I am attaching the associated file). Now I'm faced with the fact that the error is apparently caused by the color names (RubineRed, Gray etc.) that I've been using without any problems for over a year! What is suddenly going on in the LYX/LATEX world?

 

Andreas

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Re: Index is not displayed

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 4/13/24 12:31, Andreas Plihal via lyx-users wrote:

Dear Herbert,
I think you are responding to an email from me that is already out of 
date.
Meanwhile I sent another file WME_Index.lyx, which uses the text 
processor texindy. Jürgen recommended it to me. Unfortunately that 
didn't work either.
I can't find the xindex processor you mentioned in my selection list. 
Instead I find xindy. Did you perhaps mean that? It doesn't work with 
xindy either.
Even if, as you suggested, I use makeindex as the processor and enter 
the option "-s german.ist" (Jürgen commented that he cannot find 
german.ist on his computer), the index is not displayed.


I have sometimes had trouble with the index not displaying the first 
time I export a file. If I change something trivial (add a space at the 
end of a paragraph, say) and re-export, then it appears.


One way to try to debug this would be to export the file to LaTeX and 
run everything manually. Or just launch LyX from a terminal, and watch 
the output when you export. Either should give you more information.


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Index is not displayed

[Andreas Plihal via lyx-users]

Dear Herbert, 

 

I think you are responding to an email from me that is already out of date. 

 

Meanwhile I sent another file WME_Index.lyx, which uses the text processor texindy. Jürgen recommended it to me. Unfortunately that didn't work either.

 

I can't find the xindex processor you mentioned in my selection list. Instead I find xindy. Did you perhaps mean that? It doesn't work with xindy either.

 

Even if, as you suggested, I use makeindex as the processor and enter the option "-s german.ist" (Jürgen commented that he cannot find german.ist on his computer), the index is not displayed.

 

I am very grateful for your other suggestions! I will be happy to implement them in time. But they probably have nothing to do with the index, which is my primary concern. So I can do that at a later time, right?

 

Andreas

 
 

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Am 13.04.24 um 10:17 schrieb Andreas Plihal via lyx-users:
> Sorry - I included the wrong file. The file that I am now attaching
> also matches the text that I wrote in my first email. In this version
> the index does not work.

In your preamble you have
- \emergencystretch 1.5em

This is _not_ a good idea. Should only be used in _rare cases_ if TeX is not
able to justify a paragraph. Then you can use instead

\begin{sloppypar}
text...
\end{sloppypar}

With a global setting of emergencystretch you get Word-like documents ...

- \setlength{\parskip}{\medskipamount}

\setlength{\parindent}{0pt}

This is nonsense for KOMAScript documents. Use the optional class setting

parskip=half-



- You are using the font LinixLibertine which is for ages
obsolet. Use
Libertinus Serif and Libertinus Sans instead.


- For your options of your makeindex you have:

-s german.ist -t MWE_Index.ilg -o MWE_Index.idx

That's wrong! You define -o MWE_Index.idx as output file, the reason
why you overwrite the input datafile, which is by default MWE_Index.idx.
Use only

-s german.ist

oder simply xindex as Indexprocessor with optional argument

-l de


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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing + bits and pieces

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 4/13/24 03:00, Bernt Lie wrote:

So far,...
* I greatly appreciate that you have not changed the main parts of the user 
interface. I hate it when developers come out with a new version of a tool, and 
the user doesn't recognize where the menus are, etc.


I think it's fair to say that we do, too. It's our policy to change such 
things only when there is a clear reason to do so, and consensus among 
the developers, at least.



* These are the main things I have had time to notice in some 3 days, while 
converting a large portion of my key documents from v. 2.3.x to v. 2.4
--

As a person who combines text with loads of math and computer code...
* The Program Listing settings ---
--> Do I set them individually every time I insert a program listing?
--> Or are they document settings, so that if I change one setting (e.g., font 
setting), then this takes precedence for the entire document?


You can make global settings in Document> Settings> Listings.


Also, I'm using a couple of computer languages that are not supported by 
Program Listing...
* Modelica (for specifying mathematical models)
* Julia

Is there an ASCII file where it is possible to add specifications for more 
computer languages so that they show up in the Program Listing settings?


Unfortunately, that is hard-coded. It would make a lot of sense for it 
not to be, but be configurable, but that would take some doing (though I 
doubt it would be hard to do). But it would be a format change, so not 
doable until 2.5. But please do file an enhancement request if you wish.


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Re: Index is not displayed

[Herbert Voss]

Am 13.04.24 um 10:17 schrieb Andreas Plihal via lyx-users:
Sorry - I included the wrong file. The file that I am now attaching 
also matches the text that I wrote in my first email. In this version 
the index does not work.


In your preamble you have
- \emergencystretch 1.5em

This is _not_ a good idea. Should only be used in _rare cases_ if TeX is not
able to justify a paragraph. Then you can use instead

\begin{sloppypar}
text...
\end{sloppypar}

With a global setting of emergencystretch you get Word-like documents ...

- \setlength{\parskip}{\medskipamount}

\setlength{\parindent}{0pt}

This is nonsense for KOMAScript documents. Use the optional class setting

parskip=half-



- You are using the font LinixLibertine which is for ages 
obsolet. Use

Libertinus Serif and Libertinus Sans instead.


- For your options of your makeindex you have:

-s german.ist -t MWE_Index.ilg -o MWE_Index.idx

That's wrong! You define -o MWE_Index.idx as output file, the reason
why you overwrite the input datafile, which is by default MWE_Index.idx.
Use only

-s german.ist

oder simply xindex as Indexprocessor with optional argument

-l de


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Index is not displayed

[Andreas Plihal via lyx-users]

Sorry - I included the wrong file. The file that I am now attaching also matches the text that I wrote in my first email. In this version the index does not work.

 

So that we talk about the same thing :) 

 

Andreas

 

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Am Dienstag, dem 02.04.2024 um 14:54 +0200 schrieb Andreas Plihal via
lyx-users:
> I'm working on a book (KOMA-Script). Three years ago, a similar LYX
> document worked without any problems.
> But now the index is no longer displayed to me.
> ?
> Based on advice from the community (J?rgen) at the time, I chose
> texindy as the index generator.

But in the file, you have makeindex, not texindy.

> So far I have entered the following options in the settings:
> -L german-duden -C utf8 --module "C:\Program Files\MiKTeX
> 2.9\xindy\modules\base\numalpha"

I see this in your settings:

-s german.ist -t MWE_Index.ilg -o MWE_Index.idx


of these, german.ist does not exist at least on my system, and "-o
MWE_Index.idx" looks superfluous.

Removing these two arguments, i.e. reducing it all to
-t MWE_Index.ilg

gives me the index in output.

HTH,
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Hi all,

I recently downloaded LyX for documents in math classes in University. I
work with a mac, and the program is terrific so far in English.

How do I download/add another language to LyX (on a Mac) in order to create
documents in a different language other than English?

Thanks,

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Am Thu, 4 Apr 2024 09:06:34 +0300
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> Hi all,
>
> I recently downloaded LyX for documents in math classes in University. I
> work with a mac, and the program is terrific so far in English.
>
> How do I download/add another language to LyX (on a Mac) in order to create
> documents in a different language other than English?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ami

You can change the document language. See the panell
Document->Settings...->Language
and select from the drop-down languages.

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RE: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing + bits and pieces

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

A difference - perhaps -- between a missing Abstract label and the Chapter 
label in *LyX* is that sections headings are quite big compared to the standard 
text, so it is easy to see the difference. While the abstract text font is only 
marginally smaller than the standard text font, so it is more difficult to see 
what it is.

*If* one sets "abstract=on" to enforce "Abstract" to be printed in the PDF 
file, it would perhaps be natural if this text also shows up in LyX.
--
Anyways, this is not a major problem -- I can always switch to the standard 
article style.
--
Thanks a lot for your great job with creating v. 2.4. I really appreciate all 
the work you have put into it, and look forward to start reading the manuals. 
Although I've used LyX for some 10 years or so, I think it will be useful to 
re-read the documentation to better familiarize myself with what is new.

So far,...
* I greatly appreciate that you have not changed the main parts of the user 
interface. I hate it when developers come out with a new version of a tool, and 
the user doesn't recognize where the menus are, etc.

* I have already used the improved system for finding missing citations and 
broken references.

* The search system looks improved.

* These are the main things I have had time to notice in some 3 days, while 
converting a large portion of my key documents from v. 2.3.x to v. 2.4
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As a person who combines text with loads of math and computer code...
* The Program Listing settings ---
--> Do I set them individually every time I insert a program listing?
--> Or are they document settings, so that if I change one setting (e.g., font 
setting), then this takes precedence for the entire document?
--> The above question is related to how to keep consistency in listings...

Also, I'm using a couple of computer languages that are not supported by 
Program Listing...
* Modelica (for specifying mathematical models)
* Julia

Is there an ASCII file where it is possible to add specifications for more 
computer languages so that they show up in the Program Listing settings?



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From: lyx-users  On Behalf Of Richard Kimberly 
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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 10:02 PM
To: Herbert Voss ; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

On 4/12/24 12:42, Herbert Voss wrote:
> Am 12.04.24 um 13:41 schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-users:
>> Aha! It only adds "Abstract" to the PDF file when using KOMA-script, 
>> not in the LyX editor itself!
>>
>> For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX 
>> editor by default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if 
>> the same happened when using KOMA-script.
>
> It is easy to add the abstract part into the LyX layout file of the 
> scrartcl class or creating an own layout file.

For some reason, scrclass.inc explicitly removes the heading:

Input stdstruct.inc

Style Abstract
     LabelType No_Label
End

If we're agreed that's wrong, it's easy enough to fix.

Riki


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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag, dem 12.04.2024 um 16:02 -0400 schrieb Richard Kimberly
Heck:
> For some reason, scrclass.inc explicitly removes the heading:

The reason is to indicate on the output. That's intentional. For the
same reason, we remove the chapter labels in KOMA layouts.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 4/12/24 12:42, Herbert Voss wrote:

Am 12.04.24 um 13:41 schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-users:
Aha! It only adds "Abstract" to the PDF file when using KOMA-script, 
not in the LyX editor itself!


For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX 
editor by default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if 
the same happened when using KOMA-script.


It is easy to add the abstract part into the LyX layout file of the 
scrartcl class

or creating an own layout file.


For some reason, scrclass.inc explicitly removes the heading:

Input stdstruct.inc

Style Abstract
    LabelType No_Label
End

If we're agreed that's wrong, it's easy enough to fix.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

[Herbert Voss]

Am 12.04.24 um 13:41 schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-users:

Aha! It only adds "Abstract" to the PDF file when using KOMA-script, not in the 
LyX editor itself!

For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX editor by 
default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if the same happened when using 
KOMA-script.



It is easy to add the abstract part into the LyX layout file of the 
scrartcl class

or creating an own layout file.

Herbert




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Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 09:57 +, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote:

Thanks.
  
I have tried with inserting the text “abstract=on” (with and withough

prepending/appending it with “), but this has no effect.

Note that the abstract=on option only changes the (pdf) output, it does not 
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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 12 Apr 2024, José Matos wrote:


So the question is if the label should be there for consistency. I am
inclined to say yes but I have no strong feelings about this. :-)


On 2.3.7.1 The word "Abstract" appears on the LyX screen when the document
is scrreport (KOMA-Script Report) and on the PDF (pdflatex) but only in the
body text font and left-aligned. It used to be in a section font and
centered.

HTH,

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag, dem 12.04.2024 um 12:27 + schrieb Bernt Lie:
> As far as I know, KOMA is independent of LyX. So I don't understand
> why inserting the label "Abstract" in the LyX *editor* can be seen as
> overriding KOMA's default settings. 

Well, it indicates what people can expect in the output (at least by
default)

> At least not if the user inserts the command "abstract=on" in the
> settings.

That's not possible.

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RE: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

As far as I know, KOMA is independent of LyX. So I don't understand why 
inserting the label "Abstract" in the LyX *editor* can be seen as overriding 
KOMA's default settings. 

At least not if the user inserts the command "abstract=on" in the settings.


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From: lyx-users  On Behalf Of Jürgen 
Spitzmüller
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 1:52 PM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

Am Freitag, dem 12.04.2024 um 11:41 + schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-
users:
> For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX 
> editor by default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if the 
> same happened when using KOMA-script.

No, we don't want to override KOMA's default settings, which are well 
rationalized in the manual.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag, dem 12.04.2024 um 11:41 + schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-
users:
> For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX
> editor by default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if
> the same happened when using KOMA-script.

No, we don't want to override KOMA's default settings, which are well
rationalized in the manual.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag, dem 12.04.2024 um 09:41 + schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-
users:
> When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the
> headline "Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous
> versions, I think??

No, it has been the case for KOMA since a long time (always?)

> Is this a bug?

No. See KOMA script manual, sec. 3.8 and the abstract={on,off} KOMA
script option.

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RE: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

Aha! It only adds "Abstract" to the PDF file when using KOMA-script, not in the 
LyX editor itself!

For the Standard Article style, "Abstract" is inserted into the LyX editor by 
default. I find that clarifying, and it would be nice if the same happened when 
using KOMA-script.

-Original Message-
From: lyx-users  On Behalf Of José Matos
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 1:02 PM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 09:57 +, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
>  
> I have tried with inserting the text “abstract=on” (with and withough 
> prepending/appending it with “), but this has no effect.

Note that the abstract=on option only changes the (pdf) output, it does not 
change how the document looks in lyx.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

[José Matos]

On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 09:57 +, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
>  
> I have tried with inserting the text “abstract=on” (with and withough
> prepending/appending it with “), but this has no effect.

Note that the abstract=on option only changes the (pdf) output, it does
not change how the document looks in lyx.

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

[Herbert Voss]

Am 12.04.24 um 11:57 schrieb Bernt Lie:


Thanks.

I have tried with inserting the text “abstract=on” (with and withough 
prepending/appending it with “), but this has no effect.




no problem here ... Used File->new, then Document->Settings abd abstract=on.
I have nothing in the added into the preamble.

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RE: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

OK -- in 2.3.7, I did not use KOMA script article, but standard LaTeX article. 
And there the label shows up in my installation. 

The "problem" to me is that it is not just that the "label" is missing in the 
LyX editor, but the word "Abstract" does not show up in the pdf file either. 

-Original Message-
From: José Matos  
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 11:55 AM
To: Bernt Lie ; lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org; lyx-users 

Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 09:41 +, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote:
> When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the 
> headline "Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous 
> versions, I think??
> 
> Is this a bug?

I tested in 2.3.x and it does not show there as well.
So at least the change is not specific to lyx 2.4.

If you change to the standard class then the label is there both for
2.3 and 2.4.

So the question is if the label should be there for consistency.
I am inclined to say yes but I have no strong feelings about this. :-)

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RE: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

Thanks.



I have tried with inserting the text "abstract=on" (with and withough 
prepending/appending it with "), but this has no effect.

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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 11:50 AM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
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Am 12.04.24 um 11:41 schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-users:

> When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the 
> headline "Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous 
> versions, I think??

>

> Is this a bug?



Use documentclass option "abstract=on"



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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

[José Matos]

On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 09:41 +, Bernt Lie via lyx-users wrote:
> When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the
> headline "Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous
> versions, I think??
> 
> Is this a bug?

I tested in 2.3.x and it does not show there as well.
So at least the change is not specific to lyx 2.4.

If you change to the standard class then the label is there both for
2.3 and 2.4.

So the question is if the label should be there for consistency.
I am inclined to say yes but I have no strong feelings about this. :-)

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Re: Lyx error

[Herbert Voss]

Am 12.04.24 um 11:32 schrieb Eckhard Höffner:

Tobias is right.xelatex useS  truetype or open type fonts.


XeLaTeX can also use old Type1 fonts.

Herbert




Am 12.04.24 um 10:10 AM schrieb Tobias Hilbricht:

Am Donnerstag, dem 11.04.2024 um 18:19 -0400 schrieb Steve Litt:

If you use non-TeX fonts, you must compile with luatex and lualatex
instead of xelatex. Check your LyX preferences for compiling.


Here I can compile the OPs LyX-file mb.lyx using non-TeX fonts with
xelatex (converter LaTeX -> XeTeX: xelatex $$i), so perhaps xelatex is
not installed?

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

[Herbert Voss]

Am 12.04.24 um 11:41 schrieb Bernt Lie via lyx-users:

When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the headline 
"Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous versions, I think??

Is this a bug?


Use documentclass option "abstract=on"

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LyX 2.4.0 RC4 - bug? Abstract headline is missing

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

When I use KOMA script and Article style, and insert an Abstract, the headline 
"Abstract" is not inserted. This is different from previous versions, I think??

Is this a bug?
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Re: Lyx error

[Eckhard Höffner]

Tobias is right.xelatex useS  truetype or open type fonts.

Am 12.04.24 um 10:10 AM schrieb Tobias Hilbricht:

Am Donnerstag, dem 11.04.2024 um 18:19 -0400 schrieb Steve Litt:

If you use non-TeX fonts, you must compile with luatex and lualatex
instead of xelatex. Check your LyX preferences for compiling.


Here I can compile the OPs LyX-file mb.lyx using non-TeX fonts with
xelatex (converter LaTeX -> XeTeX: xelatex $$i), so perhaps xelatex is
not installed?

Tobias


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Re: Lyx error

[Tobias Hilbricht]

Am Donnerstag, dem 11.04.2024 um 18:19 -0400 schrieb Steve Litt:
> 
> If you use non-TeX fonts, you must compile with luatex and lualatex
> instead of xelatex. Check your LyX preferences for compiling.
> 

Here I can compile the OPs LyX-file mb.lyx using non-TeX fonts with
xelatex (converter LaTeX -> XeTeX: xelatex $$i), so perhaps xelatex is
not installed?

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trac accounts

[Pavel Sanda]

Hi all,

we tried to open our trac for registration again and got thousands of new
accounts during last weeks. Tonight those accounts started creating bug 
reports which were essentially ads.

I banned the registration (again) and made big cleanup. trac interface
is unfortunately such that large part had to be done manually and thus
error-prone. I probably removed few real accounts. If you can't login, 
it's probably my mistake and let me know to re-create it.

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Re: Lyx error

[Steve Litt]

Paolo M said on Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:21:34 +0200

>Your lyx file raises the same error.
>The option 'Use non-TeX fonts' cannot be selected, although the
>required fontspec package is installed.
>As i try to view the pdf rendering i get:
>
>"The external program
>
>xelatex
 ^^^

If you use non-TeX fonts, you must compile with luatex and lualatex
instead of xelatex. Check your LyX preferences for compiling.


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Re: Lyx error

[Paolo M]

Erratum: my lyx is on opensuse tumbleweed, not leap 15.



Paolo M Pumilia, t. +39 347 231 54 96

Il gio 11 apr 2024, 09:21 Paolo M  ha
scritto:

> Your lyx file raises the same error.
> The option 'Use non-TeX fonts' cannot be selected, although the required
> fontspec package is installed.
> As i try to view the pdf rendering i get:
>
> "The external program
>
> xelatex
>
> finished with an error. It is recommended you fix the cause of the
> external program's error (check the logs). "
>
>
> What is xelatex?
> I suspect my texlive installation cannot accept spaces in file names and
> directories any more.
>
> thank you
> p.
>
>
> Il giorno gio 11 apr 2024 alle ore 00:41 Steve Litt <
> sl...@troubleshooters.com> ha scritto:
>
>> Paolo M said on Wed, 10 Apr 2024 22:22:31 +0200
>>
>> >On opensuse 15, i have just installed the noto font, but probably lyx
>> >has also been upgrated to 2.4.0-RC4.  Now lyx doe not work eny more.
>> >Opening a file, see the enclosed one as an example, i get the error
>> >below p.
>>
>> Just so we're all on the same page, you know your attachment contains
>> no string "noto", right?
>>
>> Not only that, but on my computer using LyX 2.3.6.1 on an up-to-date
>> Void Linux, your document works perfectly. But you knew that already.
>>
>> In order to use Noto fonts, I took your document in LyX and did the
>> following:
>>
>> 1) On Document>Settings>Fonts I checked "Use non-TeX fonts.
>>
>> 2) Document>Settings>Fonts>Roman I chose Noto Serif [GOOG]
>>
>> 3) Document>Settings>Fonts>Sans Serif I chose Noto Sans [GOOG]
>>
>> 4) Document>Settings>Fonts>Typewriter I chose Noto Sans Mono [GOOG]
>>
>> 5) Document>View [PDF (LuaTeX)] to compile and view the result.
>>
>> I've attached my doc with Noto fonts.
>>
>> Maybe you'll get lucky and my file will compile. Try it.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> SteveT
>>
>> Steve Litt
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Re: Lyx error

[Paolo M]

Your lyx file raises the same error.
The option 'Use non-TeX fonts' cannot be selected, although the required
fontspec package is installed.
As i try to view the pdf rendering i get:

"The external program

xelatex

finished with an error. It is recommended you fix the cause of the external
program's error (check the logs). "


What is xelatex?
I suspect my texlive installation cannot accept spaces in file names and
directories any more.

thank you
p.


Il giorno gio 11 apr 2024 alle ore 00:41 Steve Litt <
sl...@troubleshooters.com> ha scritto:

> Paolo M said on Wed, 10 Apr 2024 22:22:31 +0200
>
> >On opensuse 15, i have just installed the noto font, but probably lyx
> >has also been upgrated to 2.4.0-RC4.  Now lyx doe not work eny more.
> >Opening a file, see the enclosed one as an example, i get the error
> >below p.
>
> Just so we're all on the same page, you know your attachment contains
> no string "noto", right?
>
> Not only that, but on my computer using LyX 2.3.6.1 on an up-to-date
> Void Linux, your document works perfectly. But you knew that already.
>
> In order to use Noto fonts, I took your document in LyX and did the
> following:
>
> 1) On Document>Settings>Fonts I checked "Use non-TeX fonts.
>
> 2) Document>Settings>Fonts>Roman I chose Noto Serif [GOOG]
>
> 3) Document>Settings>Fonts>Sans Serif I chose Noto Sans [GOOG]
>
> 4) Document>Settings>Fonts>Typewriter I chose Noto Sans Mono [GOOG]
>
> 5) Document>View [PDF (LuaTeX)] to compile and view the result.
>
> I've attached my doc with Noto fonts.
>
> Maybe you'll get lucky and my file will compile. Try it.
>
> HTH,
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
>
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> http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21
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Re: Insert cross-reference shortcut

[Joel Kulesza]

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 10:16 AM Folsk Pratima 
wrote:

> You can make a shortcut for inserting a label, but I did not find a way
> to do it for inserting a cross-reference, so every time I have to use
> mouse to click on the toolbar.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> LyX 2.3.7 (2023-01-01)
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Folsk,

To find the command needed, use View -> Messages Pane, and then insert the
cross-reference label manually.  You should see `dialog-show-new-inset ref`
appear in the Messages pane.  This is the command that you need to add to
the shortcut's Function specification when you go to Preferences -> Editing
-> Shortcuts -> New.

Hope this helps,
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Re: Lyx error

[Steve Litt]

Paolo M said on Wed, 10 Apr 2024 22:22:31 +0200

>On opensuse 15, i have just installed the noto font, but probably lyx
>has also been upgrated to 2.4.0-RC4.  Now lyx doe not work eny more.
>Opening a file, see the enclosed one as an example, i get the error
>below p.

Just so we're all on the same page, you know your attachment contains
no string "noto", right?

Not only that, but on my computer using LyX 2.3.6.1 on an up-to-date
Void Linux, your document works perfectly. But you knew that already.

In order to use Noto fonts, I took your document in LyX and did the
following:

1) On Document>Settings>Fonts I checked "Use non-TeX fonts.

2) Document>Settings>Fonts>Roman I chose Noto Serif [GOOG]

3) Document>Settings>Fonts>Sans Serif I chose Noto Sans [GOOG]

4) Document>Settings>Fonts>Typewriter I chose Noto Sans Mono [GOOG]

5) Document>View [PDF (LuaTeX)] to compile and view the result.

I've attached my doc with Noto fonts.

Maybe you'll get lucky and my file will compile. Try it.

HTH,

SteveT

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Lyx error

[Paolo M]

On opensuse 15, i have just installed the noto font, but probably lyx has
also been upgrated to 2.4.0-RC4.  Now lyx doe not work eny more.
Opening a file, see the enclosed one as an example, i get the error below
p.

 Moreover, the pdf rendering cannot be viewenc. my error message

The selected document class
Article (Standard Class)
requires external files that are not available.
The document class can still be used, but the
document cannot be compiled until the following
prerequisites are installed:
article.cls
See section 3.1.2.2 (Class Availability) of the
User's Guide for more information.



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Insert cross-reference shortcut

[Folsk Pratima]

You can make a shortcut for inserting a label, but I did not find a way
to do it for inserting a cross-reference, so every time I have to use
mouse to click on the toolbar.

Any suggestions?

LyX 2.3.7 (2023-01-01)
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LyX 2.4.0, Listing, and computer language?

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

How can I add another computer language to the Program Listing Settings?



  *   Is there a file where I can add reserved words, etc.?
  *   ...and then have it show up in the Program Listing Settings language 
choice?



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RE: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

Experimenting with LyX 2.4 RC4... Specifically, I'm testing whether there is 
Unicode support.



  *   I have successfully pasted in a Unicode character from VSCode into a LyX 
2.4 RC4 document, so this seems to work:

[cid:image001.png@01DA8B60.FFE8A950]

Here, the first symbol is produced in VSCode using "\frakm + TAB", and then 
pasted into a LyX text line.  The second occurrence (slightly different in 
form) is produced as in-line math "\mathfrak{m}".



I can also decorate this symbol with a dot on top, "\frakm + TAB \dot + TAB" in 
VSCode. When I paste this symbol into LyX, the dot on top of "\frakm + TAB" is 
somewhat skewed to the right.



OK - so Unicode in LyX seems to work. It also works if I preview the document 
as a PDF file.

--

Next, I try to use Unicode in listings. That does not work at the moment... 
Here is what I do:

  *   Insert/Program Listing
  *   I paste the "\frakm + TAB" symbol from VSCode into this box.
  *   This gives a paste error message:

[cid:image003.png@01DA8B61.C58642D0]



  *   I then go to Document/Settings/Listings, and change Syntax Highlighting 
Package to *minted*, which provides a message:

[cid:image004.png@01DA8B62.5053B550]



I don't understand this message...

  *   I'm on Windows, and the documentation says that Pygments driver is 
installed by default (??). Anyways, reading this warning...
  *   Where am I supposed to place command "\AtBeginDocument{...}"?? Are we 
talking about putting this command in the Document/Settings/LaTeX Preamble 
window??? Or should I open the LyX document in an ASCII editor and add the 
line... somewhere?
  *   What is the "driver command", i.e., the string I'm supposed to insert 
instead of `driver`? Is it simply `pygmentize`??

  *   Anyways, for now I just neglect this command, and go to 
Tools/Preferences/File Handling/Converters, and scroll down to

[cid:image002.png@01DA8B63.945591F0]

Here I have changed Converter from `pdflatex $$i` to what is shown above.



When I go back to the document and insert a listing, and then paste the Unicode 
symbol into the listing, I get the same error message with paste error as shown 
at the top of this e-mail.



--

So - I'm stuck. The only possible reason for the problem now are:

  *   I need to find the correct place to insert the string 
"\AtBeginDocument..." string with the correct `driver` (whatever that is), and 
live with the warning of mint & `-shell-escape` causing a security risk. 
Perhaps this will solve the problem.
  *   Or: it is not possible to use Unicode characters in LyX 2.4 listings.



Any suggestions?



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RE: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

Ah. OK.

-Original Message-
From: lyx-users  On Behalf Of Pavel Sanda
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 2:51 PM
To: lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org; lyx-users 
Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 12:11:08PM +, Bernt Lie wrote:
> > knitr integration...
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> I don't use R, so I guess knitr is not useful to me.

I did not mean that you will use R, but that you can check how knitr scripts 
establish two-way communication street and reuse it for jupyter instead of R

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks

[Pavel Sanda]

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 12:11:08PM +, Bernt Lie wrote:
> > knitr integration...
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> I don't use R, so I guess knitr is not useful to me.

I did not mean that you will use R, but that you can check how knitr scripts
establish two-way communication street and reuse it for jupyter instead of R

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RE: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

> knitr integration...

Thanks.

I don't use R, so I guess knitr is not useful to me. [In in the JU corner of 
Jupyter...] There is also Quarto which is developed in the R community, 
although it can also be used with other languages. Don't know how Quarto scales 
to large documents, though... My experience is that Jupyter Notebooks start to 
become slow with documents in the order of some 30 pages (i.e., with plenty of 
plots), while LyX is still quick with documents in the order of 1000 pages.

-B

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From: lyx-users  On Behalf Of Pavel Sanda
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 11:05 AM
To: lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org; lyx-users 
Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks

On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 11:37:48AM -0400, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> On 4/9/24 08:48, Bernt Lie wrote:
> >Is there a way to import Jupyter Notebooks into LyX 2.4.0 (when v. 2.4.0 is 
> >released)?
> >
> >I'm particularly interested in the possibility to...
> >
> >* link the notebooks into LyX so that I always get the latest 
> >version/computations in the notebook, i.e., preferably not a static 
> >import
> >
> >* inclusion of mark-up text with headlines, math, etc.
> >
> >* inclusion of input and output cells, with figures, etc.
> >
> >* linked-in notebooks would be multipage. Perhaps it should be possible to 
> >embed the notebooks in some theorem-like environment.
> >
> >OK -- don't know if this is possible, but it would go a long way towards 
> >getting a literal programming environment.
> 
> The most plausible way to do this would be to use an external inset. 
> That's the way that Lilypond files (music) are included, for example. 
> Such insets are user definable. Basically, you tell LyX how to convert 
> the file to something LaTeX can process. This is discussed in section 
> 7.1 of the Embedded Objects manual. You can use the existing xtemplate 
> files as a starting point, too.

You might also want to check how knitr integrates into lyx (basically embedding 
R code into lyx).

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks

[Pavel Sanda]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 11:37:48AM -0400, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> On 4/9/24 08:48, Bernt Lie wrote:
> >Is there a way to import Jupyter Notebooks into LyX 2.4.0 (when v. 2.4.0 is 
> >released)?
> >
> >I'm particularly interested in the possibility to...
> >
> >* link the notebooks into LyX so that I always get the latest 
> >version/computations in the notebook, i.e., preferably not a static import
> >
> >* inclusion of mark-up text with headlines, math, etc.
> >
> >* inclusion of input and output cells, with figures, etc.
> >
> >* linked-in notebooks would be multipage. Perhaps it should be possible to 
> >embed the notebooks in some theorem-like environment.
> >
> >OK -- don't know if this is possible, but it would go a long way towards 
> >getting a literal programming environment.
> 
> The most plausible way to do this would be to use an external inset. That's
> the way that Lilypond files (music) are included, for example. Such insets
> are user definable. Basically, you tell LyX how to convert the file to
> something LaTeX can process. This is discussed in section 7.1 of the
> Embedded Objects manual. You can use the existing xtemplate files as a
> starting point, too.

You might also want to check how knitr integrates into lyx (basically embedding
R code into lyx).

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size of graphics with inlineimg

[camus . philippe]

Hello 
I'm trying to use inline-images in a document with base64 encoded pictures : 
\inlineimg{picture.png}{base64 code} 

It works fine with TeXstudio, but with LyX i get a "cannot determine size of 
graphics, no bounding box" error. 
I suspect it comes from the place where LyX put the temp files picture.png, but 
I don't know how to control that. 


Thanks 
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Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 4/9/24 15:59, Bernt Lie wrote:

OK -- so I could just as well start using RC4?


I have been using the master branch for regular work for well over a 
year. My recent book


    https://academic.oup.com/book/56184

was produced using it. I.e., the book was printed from a PDF I provided 
to OUP. So it's entirely usable.



I'm not super software savvy, so I have been hesitant not knowing:
* Can I install RC4 and still use LyX 2.7.1?
That may depend upon your OS, but someone else should be able to say. 
The one thing you have to do is keep the user directories separate.

* Do I have to uninstall RC4 and install the official release when it becomes 
available?

Again, that will depend upon your OS.

* With 2.7.1, I have used MikTeX. Should I still use MikTeX, or use something 
else? (Does MikTeX also come with LuaTeX, XeTeX, TeXLive, or whatever?)


The background TeX installation should not matter. They all have the 
same bits. (TeXLive, though, is an alternative to MikTeX.)


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RE: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

OK -- so I could just as well start using RC4?

I'm not super software savvy, so I have been hesitant not knowing:
* Can I install RC4 and still use LyX 2.7.1?
* Do I have to uninstall RC4 and install the official release when it becomes 
available?
* With 2.7.1, I have used MikTeX. Should I still use MikTeX, or use something 
else? (Does MikTeX also come with LuaTeX, XeTeX, TeXLive, or whatever?)

If these three bullet points do not cause any problems, I may try to download 
and use RC4.
 

-Original Message-
From: Richard Kimberly Heck  
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 9:51 PM
To: Bernt Lie ; LyX Developers ; 
lyx-users 
Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks

On 4/9/24 12:00, Bernt Lie wrote:
> Thanks. Will look at it when the new version is released.

I don't think there have been any major changes in that machinery. And there 
definitely won't be any before the final release. Changes from RC4 to the 
official release are going to be pretty minor (as one would hope).

Riki


> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Kimberly Heck 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 5:38 PM
> To: Bernt Lie ; LyX Developers 
> ; lyx-users 
> Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks
>
> On 4/9/24 08:48, Bernt Lie wrote:
>> Is there a way to import Jupyter Notebooks into LyX 2.4.0 (when v. 2.4.0 is 
>> released)?
>>
>> I'm particularly interested in the possibility to...
>>
>> * link the notebooks into LyX so that I always get the latest 
>> version/computations in the notebook, i.e., preferably not a static 
>> import
>>
>> * inclusion of mark-up text with headlines, math, etc.
>>
>> * inclusion of input and output cells, with figures, etc.
>>
>> * linked-in notebooks would be multipage. Perhaps it should be possible to 
>> embed the notebooks in some theorem-like environment.
>>
>> OK -- don't know if this is possible, but it would go a long way towards 
>> getting a literal programming environment.
> The most plausible way to do this would be to use an external inset.
> That's the way that Lilypond files (music) are included, for example.
> Such insets are user definable. Basically, you tell LyX how to convert 
> the file to something LaTeX can process. This is discussed in section
> 7.1 of the Embedded Objects manual. You can use the existing xtemplate files 
> as a starting point, too.
>
> Riki
>
>

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 4/9/24 12:00, Bernt Lie wrote:

Thanks. Will look at it when the new version is released.


I don't think there have been any major changes in that machinery. And 
there definitely won't be any before the final release. Changes from RC4 
to the official release are going to be pretty minor (as one would hope).


Riki



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From: Richard Kimberly Heck 
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 5:38 PM
To: Bernt Lie ; LyX Developers ; lyx-users 

Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks

On 4/9/24 08:48, Bernt Lie wrote:

Is there a way to import Jupyter Notebooks into LyX 2.4.0 (when v. 2.4.0 is 
released)?

I'm particularly interested in the possibility to...

* link the notebooks into LyX so that I always get the latest
version/computations in the notebook, i.e., preferably not a static
import

* inclusion of mark-up text with headlines, math, etc.

* inclusion of input and output cells, with figures, etc.

* linked-in notebooks would be multipage. Perhaps it should be possible to 
embed the notebooks in some theorem-like environment.

OK -- don't know if this is possible, but it would go a long way towards 
getting a literal programming environment.

The most plausible way to do this would be to use an external inset.
That's the way that Lilypond files (music) are included, for example.
Such insets are user definable. Basically, you tell LyX how to convert the file 
to something LaTeX can process. This is discussed in section
7.1 of the Embedded Objects manual. You can use the existing xtemplate files as 
a starting point, too.

Riki




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RE: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

Thanks. Will look at it when the new version is released.

-Original Message-
From: Richard Kimberly Heck  
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 5:38 PM
To: Bernt Lie ; LyX Developers ; 
lyx-users 
Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks

On 4/9/24 08:48, Bernt Lie wrote:
> Is there a way to import Jupyter Notebooks into LyX 2.4.0 (when v. 2.4.0 is 
> released)?
>
> I'm particularly interested in the possibility to...
>
> * link the notebooks into LyX so that I always get the latest 
> version/computations in the notebook, i.e., preferably not a static 
> import
>
> * inclusion of mark-up text with headlines, math, etc.
>
> * inclusion of input and output cells, with figures, etc.
>
> * linked-in notebooks would be multipage. Perhaps it should be possible to 
> embed the notebooks in some theorem-like environment.
>
> OK -- don't know if this is possible, but it would go a long way towards 
> getting a literal programming environment.

The most plausible way to do this would be to use an external inset. 
That's the way that Lilypond files (music) are included, for example. 
Such insets are user definable. Basically, you tell LyX how to convert the file 
to something LaTeX can process. This is discussed in section
7.1 of the Embedded Objects manual. You can use the existing xtemplate files as 
a starting point, too.

Riki


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Re: LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 4/9/24 08:48, Bernt Lie wrote:

Is there a way to import Jupyter Notebooks into LyX 2.4.0 (when v. 2.4.0 is 
released)?

I'm particularly interested in the possibility to...

* link the notebooks into LyX so that I always get the latest 
version/computations in the notebook, i.e., preferably not a static import

* inclusion of mark-up text with headlines, math, etc.

* inclusion of input and output cells, with figures, etc.

* linked-in notebooks would be multipage. Perhaps it should be possible to 
embed the notebooks in some theorem-like environment.

OK -- don't know if this is possible, but it would go a long way towards 
getting a literal programming environment.


The most plausible way to do this would be to use an external inset. 
That's the way that Lilypond files (music) are included, for example. 
Such insets are user definable. Basically, you tell LyX how to convert 
the file to something LaTeX can process. This is discussed in section 
7.1 of the Embedded Objects manual. You can use the existing xtemplate 
files as a starting point, too.


Riki


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LyX 2.4.0 & Jupyter Notebooks

[Bernt Lie via lyx-users]

Is there a way to import Jupyter Notebooks into LyX 2.4.0 (when v. 2.4.0 is 
released)? 

I'm particularly interested in the possibility to...

* link the notebooks into LyX so that I always get the latest 
version/computations in the notebook, i.e., preferably not a static import

* inclusion of mark-up text with headlines, math, etc.

* inclusion of input and output cells, with figures, etc.

* linked-in notebooks would be multipage. Perhaps it should be possible to 
embed the notebooks in some theorem-like environment.

OK -- don't know if this is possible, but it would go a long way towards 
getting a literal programming environment. 

-B

-Original Message-
From: lyx-users  On Behalf Of Rich Shepard
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2024 11:58 PM
To: LyX Developers ; lyx-users 

Subject: Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4

On Sun, 31 Mar 2024, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

> What we hope will be the final release candidate for 2.4.0 is now 
> available
> here:
> http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.4/
>
> Please report bugs to lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org.

Riki,

Just upgraded from 2.3.7.1 to 2.4.0~RC4 on Slackware64-15.0 on a ThinkPad T430; 
no bugs seen crawling around. The issues that bugged me in 2.3.6.2 and
2.3.7.1 (not finding biblatex.sty and biber, needing to use the File menu to 
export a pdflatex because c-x h wouldn't work) are gone.

I had a concern about Tools -> Preferences -> Look & Feel -> Display showed 
Default when I use emacs turned out that (at least on my system) emacs key 
chords are the default.

Congratulations and many thanks to all devs.

Best regards,

Rich

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Re: After-preamble with polyglossia

[Folsk Pratima]

On Tue, 09 Apr 2024 08:01:03 +0200
"Jürgen Spitzmüller"  wrote:

> Am Dienstag, dem 09.04.2024 um 00:17 +0300 schrieb Folsk Pratima:
> > \addto\captions{%
> >   \renewcommand{\figurename}{I LOVE LYX}%
> > }
> > 
> > does not work after \begin{document} and there is no way to put it
> > after \usepackage{polyglossia}. I am enraged!  
> 
> \AtBeginDocument{
>   \addto\captions{%
> \renewcommand{\figurename}{I LOVE LYX}%
>   }
> }
> 

To be very honest I remembered the \AtBeginDocument thing when I cooled
down a bit it the bed :P

Thank you anyway.

Maybe this will be useful for somebody in some distant future...
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Re: After-preamble with polyglossia

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Dienstag, dem 09.04.2024 um 00:17 +0300 schrieb Folsk Pratima:
> \addto\captions{%
>   \renewcommand{\figurename}{I LOVE LYX}%
> }
> 
> does not work after \begin{document} and there is no way to put it
> after \usepackage{polyglossia}. I am enraged!

\AtBeginDocument{
  \addto\captions{%
\renewcommand{\figurename}{I LOVE LYX}%
  }
}

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After-preamble with polyglossia

[Folsk Pratima]

\addto\captions{%
  \renewcommand{\figurename}{I LOVE LYX}%
}

does not work after \begin{document} and there is no way to put it
after \usepackage{polyglossia}. I am enraged!

LyX 2.3.7 (2023-01-01)

Should I compile whatever is the latest version to fix this? It feels
so dumb to handcraft a file with LyX to end up compiling it with
xelatex on command line, because LyX does not allow me to mess with
polyglossia!

Sorry if missed some info I am very angry and I want to sleep and I
still have not finished with my documents.
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Re: Adding Languages to LyX on Mac

[Kornel Benko]

Am Thu, 4 Apr 2024 09:06:34 +0300
schrieb Ami Stein :

> Hi all,
> 
> I recently downloaded LyX for documents in math classes in University. I
> work with a mac, and the program is terrific so far in English.
> 
> How do I download/add another language to LyX (on a Mac) in order to create
> documents in a different language other than English?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ami

You can change the document language. See the panell
Document->Settings...->Language
and select from the drop-down languages.

Kornel


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Adding Languages to LyX on Mac

[Ami Stein]

Hi all,

I recently downloaded LyX for documents in math classes in University. I
work with a mac, and the program is terrific so far in English.

How do I download/add another language to LyX (on a Mac) in order to create
documents in a different language other than English?

Thanks,

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Re: Index is not displayed

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Dienstag, dem 02.04.2024 um 14:54 +0200 schrieb Andreas Plihal via
lyx-users:
> I'm working on a book (KOMA-Script). Three years ago, a similar LYX
> document worked without any problems. 
> But now the index is no longer displayed to me.
>  
> Based on advice from the community (Jürgen) at the time, I chose
> texindy as the index generator.

But in the file, you have makeindex, not texindy.

> So far I have entered the following options in the settings:
> -L german-duden -C utf8 --module "C:\Program Files\MiKTeX
> 2.9\xindy\modules\base\numalpha"

I see this in your settings:

-s german.ist -t MWE_Index.ilg -o MWE_Index.idx


of these, german.ist does not exist at least on my system, and "-o
MWE_Index.idx" looks superfluous.

Removing these two arguments, i.e. reducing it all to
-t MWE_Index.ilg

gives me the index in output.

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Index is not displayed

[Andreas Plihal via lyx-users]

Hi,

 

I'm working on a book (KOMA-Script). Three years ago, a similar LYX document worked without any problems. 

But now the index is no longer displayed to me.

 

Based on advice from the community (Jürgen) at the time, I chose texindy as the index generator.

 


So far I have entered the following options in the settings:

-L german-duden -C utf8 --module "C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.9\xindy\modules\base\numalpha"


 

The generated idx file looks correct - it is stored in a temporary directory.

 

I'm working with LYX 2.3.7 on Windows 11 Home, version 23H2.

 

I am attaching a significantly reduced LYX file that focuses on creating the index.

 

Can you help me please?

 

Thanks in advance

Andreas

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Re: LyX 2.4.0 RC4

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 31 Mar 2024, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

What we hope will be the final release candidate for 2.4.0 is now available 
here:

http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.4/

Please report bugs to lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org.


Riki,

Just upgraded from 2.3.7.1 to 2.4.0~RC4 on Slackware64-15.0 on a ThinkPad
T430; no bugs seen crawling around. The issues that bugged me in 2.3.6.2 and
2.3.7.1 (not finding biblatex.sty and biber, needing to use the File menu to
export a pdflatex because c-x h wouldn't work) are gone.

I had a concern about Tools -> Preferences -> Look & Feel -> Display showed
Default when I use emacs turned out that (at least on my system) emacs key
chords are the default.

Congratulations and many thanks to all devs.

Best regards,

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LyX 2.4.0 RC4

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

What we hope will be the final release candidate for 2.4.0 is now 
available here:


http://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.4/

Please report bugs to lyx-de...@lists.lyx.org.

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Re: LyX-3.2.7.1 not finding biber

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, Paul Rubin wrote:


First, try "kpsewhich biblatex.sty" in a terminal to confirm that TeXLive
knows where to find it. If the return is empty, there's a setup problem
with TeXLive.


Paul,

Working off the mail list with Herbert I think I just found the problem, but
not yet the solution.

I used the same command, `perl ./install-tl --no-interaction --paper=letter'
on both the Slackware64-14.2 desktop and the Slackware64-15.0 laptop.

On the former, all files are in /usr/local/texlive/2024; on laptop,
some/many/most files are in /usr/share/texlive/2024. The latter is
apparently the Debian default.

Why two different installations using the same command line installed
differently might well be the reason I have the missing files errors.

Thanks,

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Re: LyX-3.2.7.1 not finding biber

[Paul Rubin]

On 3/29/24 10:21, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, Rich Shepard wrote:


Found a couple and changed them. Will check this morning if that solves
the problem.


Invoked lyx-2.3.7.1 and opened a document with bibliography. When the
document loaded a message box appeared telling me that lyx couldn't find
biblatex.sty.

However, that style file is present in:
/usr/local/texlive/2024/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex/biblatex.sty

And, in Document -> Settings -> Bibliograpy the processor still says 
`biber

(not found)'. This still needs fixing.

Where should I look to find why both biber and biblatex are not found?

TIA,

Rich

Rich,

First, try "kpsewhich biblatex.sty" in a terminal to confirm that 
TeXLive knows where to find it. If the return is empty, there's a setup 
problem with TeXLive.


Second, try "which biber" in a terminal to confirm that biber is on your 
system path. If not, you may need to modify your system path (or change 
how biber is installed).


FWIW, on my system the texlive tree is under /usr/share rather than 
/usr/local (and kpsewhich finds biblatex.sty) and biber is in /usr/bin 
(which is of course on my system path).


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Re: Builing 2.4.0~RC4

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 3/29/24 10:25, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:


Which build script?


Riki,

-
#!/bin/sh

# Slackware build script for LyX
# Written by Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér 
# Now maintained by R. S. Ananda Murthy (rsamu...@gmail.com)

PRGNAM=lyx
VERSION=${VERSION:-2.3.7.1} # change as needed


Try: ${VERSION:-2.4.0~RC4}

This is more a Slackware issue than a LyX one.

Riki


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Re: Builing 2.4.0~RC4

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, Eckhard Höffner wrote:


Did you change the Version?



Am 29.03.24 um 3:25 PM schrieb Rich Shepard:

PRGNAM=lyx
VERSION=${VERSION:-2.3.7.1} # change as needed


Eckhard,

Not for the installed version. When I tried to build lyx-2.4 I tried several
ways of presenting that RC4 but none worked.

Regards,

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Re: Builing 2.4.0~RC4

[Eckhard Höffner]

Did you change the Version?

Am 29.03.24 um 3:25 PM schrieb Rich Shepard:

PRGNAM=lyx
VERSION=${VERSION:-2.3.7.1} # change as needed 


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Re: Builing 2.4.0~RC4

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:


Which build script?


Riki,

-
#!/bin/sh

# Slackware build script for LyX
# Written by Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér 
# Now maintained by R. S. Ananda Murthy (rsamu...@gmail.com)

PRGNAM=lyx
VERSION=${VERSION:-2.3.7.1} # change as needed
BUILD=${BUILD:-1}
TAG=${TAG:-_SBo}

if [ -z "$ARCH" ]; then
  case "$( uname -m )" in
i?86) ARCH=i586 ;;
arm*) ARCH=arm ;;
   *) ARCH=$( uname -m ) ;;
  esac
fi

CWD=$(pwd)
TMP=${TMP:-/tmp/SBo}
PKG=$TMP/package-$PRGNAM
OUTPUT=${OUTPUT:-/tmp}

if [ "$ARCH" = "i586" ]; then
  SLKCFLAGS="-O2 -march=i586 -mtune=i686"
  LIBDIRSUFFIX=""
elif [ "$ARCH" = "i686" ]; then
  SLKCFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -mtune=i686"
  LIBDIRSUFFIX=""
elif [ "$ARCH" = "x86_64" ]; then
  SLKCFLAGS="-O2 -fPIC"
  LIBDIRSUFFIX="64"
else
  SLKCFLAGS="-O2"
  LIBDIRSUFFIX=""
fi

set -e

rm -rf $PKG
mkdir -p $TMP $PKG $OUTPUT
cd $TMP
rm -rf $PRGNAM-$VERSION
tar xvf $CWD/$PRGNAM-$VERSION.tar.xz
cd $PRGNAM-$VERSION
chown -R root:root .
find -L . \
 \( -perm 777 -o -perm 775 -o -perm 750 -o -perm 711 -o -perm 555 \
  -o -perm 511 \) -exec chmod 755 {} \; -o \
 \( -perm 666 -o -perm 664 -o -perm 640 -o -perm 600 -o -perm 444 \
  -o -perm 440 -o -perm 400 \) -exec chmod 644 {} \;

CFLAGS="$SLKCFLAGS" \
CXXFLAGS="$SLKCFLAGS" \
./configure \
  --prefix=/usr \
  --libdir=/usr/lib${LIBDIRSUFFIX} \
  --sysconfdir=/etc \
  --localstatedir=/var \
  --enable-qt5 \
  --mandir=/usr/man \
  --docdir=/usr/doc/$PRGNAM-$VERSION \
  --build=$ARCH-slackware-linux
make
make install DESTDIR=$PKG

find $PKG -print0 | xargs -0 file | grep -e "executable" -e "shared object" | 
grep ELF \
  | cut -f 1 -d : | xargs strip --strip-unneeded 2> /dev/null || true

find $PKG/usr/man -type f -exec gzip -9 {} \;
for i in $( find $PKG/usr/man -type l ) ; do ln -s $( readlink $i ).gz $i.gz ; 
rm $i ; done

mkdir -p $PKG/usr/doc/$PRGNAM-$VERSION
cat $CWD/$PRGNAM.SlackBuild > $PKG/usr/doc/$PRGNAM-$VERSION/$PRGNAM.SlackBuild

mkdir -p $PKG/install
cat $CWD/slack-desc > $PKG/install/slack-desc
cat $CWD/doinst.sh > $PKG/install/doinst.sh

cd $PKG
/sbin/makepkg -l y -c n 
$OUTPUT/$PRGNAM-$VERSION-$ARCH-$BUILD$TAG.${PKGTYPE:-tgz}
-

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Re: LyX-3.2.7.1 not finding biber

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, Rich Shepard wrote:


Found a couple and changed them. Will check this morning if that solves
the problem.


Invoked lyx-2.3.7.1 and opened a document with bibliography. When the
document loaded a message box appeared telling me that lyx couldn't find
biblatex.sty.

However, that style file is present in:
/usr/local/texlive/2024/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex/biblatex.sty

And, in Document -> Settings -> Bibliograpy the processor still says `biber
(not found)'. This still needs fixing.

Where should I look to find why both biber and biblatex are not found?

TIA,

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Re: LyX-3.2.7.1 not finding biber

[Rich Shepard]

On Thu, 28 Mar 2024, Rich Shepard wrote:


This is a new installation of the OS on the laptop. There is no TeXLive2023
anywhere. And the only reference to texlive is the TEXLIVEPATH in
~/.bash_profile. I've no idea where `echo $PATH' could find a texlive/2023/
directory since none exists.


Paul,

Found a couple and changed them. Will check this morning if that solves the
problem.

More later,

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Re: Builing 2.4.0~RC4

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 3/28/24 16:41, Rich Shepard wrote:
I downloaded lyx-2.4.0~RC4.tar.xz. That name is not accepted when the 
build

script wants to crate a /tmp/ directory. Changing the file name to match
what the build script says it's looking for also fails because the 
console

displaying progress shows the version as above.


Which build script?

Riki


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Re: LyX-3.2.7.1 not finding biber

[Rich Shepard]

On Thu, 28 Mar 2024, Paul Rubin wrote:


Not sure this is the problem, but you have .../texlive/202*4*/... in the
bash profile and .../texlive/202*3*/... in PATH.


Paul,

This is a new installation of the OS on the laptop. There is no TeXLive2023
anywhere. And the only reference to texlive is the TEXLIVEPATH in
~/.bash_profile. I've no idea where `echo $PATH' could find a texlive/2023/
directory since none exists.

Sigh. Thanks,

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Re: LyX-3.2.7.1 not finding biber

[Rich Shepard]

On Thu, 28 Mar 2024, Tobias Hilbricht wrote:


check if biber is found, at the command line like this:
$ which biber 
$ /home/tobias/.local/bin/biber
If it is not installed, install, e. g.
$ tlmgr install biber
If it is installed but not found you have to place it in $PATH:
$ echo $PATH
shows possible folders.


Tobias,

`which' doesn't find it, but find did, in my path:
$ echo $PATH
/home/rshepard/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/texlive/2023/bin/x86_64-linux:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/lib64/libexec/kf5:/usr/lib64/qt5/bin

It's in the third entry because in ~/.bash_profile I specified
TEXLIVEPATH=/usr/local/texlive/2024/bin/x86_64-linux:$PATH

Wonder why lyx isn't finding it.

Thanks,

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Re: LyX-3.2.7.1 not finding biber

[Tobias Hilbricht]

Rich,

check if biber is found, at the command line like this:
$ which biber 
$ /home/tobias/.local/bin/biber
If it is not installed, install, e. g.
$ tlmgr install biber
If it is installed but not found you have to place it in $PATH:
$ echo $PATH
shows possible folders.

Hope it helps
Tobias



Am Donnerstag, dem 28.03.2024 um 12:36 -0700 schrieb Rich Shepard:
> I installed LyX-2.3.7.1 and JabRef-5.12 on my laptop running
> Slackware64-15.0. When I try to compile a document using pdflatex LyX
> tells
> me that the bibliography processor (biber) is not available (see
> attached.)
> 
> How to I make biber available in 2.3.7.1?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Rich

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Builing 2.4.0~RC4

[Rich Shepard]

I downloaded lyx-2.4.0~RC4.tar.xz. That name is not accepted when the build
script wants to crate a /tmp/ directory. Changing the file name to match
what the build script says it's looking for also fails because the console
displaying progress shows the version as above.

Suggestions?

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Re: LyX-3.2.7.1 not finding biber

[Rich Shepard]

On Thu, 28 Mar 2024, Rich Shepard wrote:

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LyX-3.2.7.1 not finding biber

[Rich Shepard]

I installed LyX-2.3.7.1 and JabRef-5.12 on my laptop running
Slackware64-15.0. When I try to compile a document using pdflatex LyX tells
me that the bibliography processor (biber) is not available (see attached.)

How to I make biber available in 2.3.7.1?

TIA,

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Re: Problems in the lyx 2.4 menu (Debian testing)

[Stefano Simonucci]

With LXQt desktop lyx is fully functional.

Stefano

On 27/03/24 17:20, Stefano Simonucci wrote:

How do I learn about screen scaling. It's not in the monitor settings.

xrandr doesn't seem to work with nvidia driver while it works with 
nouveau driver.


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Re: Problems in the lyx 2.4 menu (Debian testing)

[Stefano Simonucci]

How do I learn about screen scaling. It's not in the monitor settings.

xrandr doesn't seem to work with nvidia driver while it works with 
nouveau driver.


Stefano


On 27/03/24 15:05, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Le 27/03/2024 à 14:32, Stefano Simonucci a écrit :

Mate e gnome classic.


And do you use some screen scaling (in particular fractional scaling 
like x1.25)?


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Re: Problems in the lyx 2.4 menu (Debian testing)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 27/03/2024 à 14:32, Stefano Simonucci a écrit :

Mate e gnome classic.


And do you use some screen scaling (in particular fractional scaling 
like x1.25)?


JMarc



On 27/03/24 12:46, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Le 27/03/2024 à 12:44, Stefano Simonucci a écrit :

I have added \draw_strategy backingstore but the result is the same.

I use X11 because wayland is not compatible with nvidia drivers.


In what environment? Gnome, KDE, other?

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Re: Problems in the lyx 2.4 menu (Debian testing)

[Stefano Simonucci]

Mate e gnome classic.

On 27/03/24 12:46, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Le 27/03/2024 à 12:44, Stefano Simonucci a écrit :

I have added \draw_strategy backingstore but the result is the same.

I use X11 because wayland is not compatible with nvidia drivers.


In what environment? Gnome, KDE, other?

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Re: Problems in the lyx 2.4 menu (Debian testing)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 27/03/2024 à 12:44, Stefano Simonucci a écrit :

I have added \draw_strategy backingstore but the result is the same.

I use X11 because wayland is not compatible with nvidia drivers.


In what environment? Gnome, KDE, other?

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Re: Problems in the lyx 2.4 menu (Debian testing)

[Stefano Simonucci]

I have added \draw_strategy backingstore but the result is the same.

I use X11 because wayland is not compatible with nvidia drivers.

Stefano

On 27/03/24 12:23, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Le 27/03/2024 à 12:15, Stefano Simonucci a écrit :
I add more information. The bad behavior occurs when I use a 6.6 
kernel with nvidia video driver. If I use a previous kernel 6.1 with 
nouveau video driver I have no problems.


What happens if you add
\draw_strategy backingstore
to your preference file in the user directory (usually ~/.lyx)?

Is this X11 or Wayland ? (you can see that in Help>About LyX).

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Re: Problems in the lyx 2.4 menu (Debian testing)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 27/03/2024 à 12:15, Stefano Simonucci a écrit :
I add more information. The bad behavior occurs when I use a 6.6 kernel 
with nvidia video driver. If I use a previous kernel 6.1 with nouveau 
video driver I have no problems.


What happens if you add
\draw_strategy backingstore
to your preference file in the user directory (usually ~/.lyx)?

Is this X11 or Wayland ? (you can see that in Help>About LyX).

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Re: Problems in the lyx 2.4 menu (Debian testing)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 27/03/2024 à 12:05, Stefano Simonucci a écrit :

Lyx screenshot
On 27/03/24 11:18, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Le 27/03/2024 à 10:56, Stefano Simonucci a écrit :
After the last upgrade from lyx 2.3 to lyx 2.4 I started to observe 
display problems in the menu and in the main window.


Some time ago I thought I had seen problems of this type online (I 
don't remember if it was a Qt problem), but with Google I wasn't able 
to see anything that suited my needs.


Hello,

What version of 2.4 is this? Could you send a screenshot of what you 
observe ?




Thanks for the screenshot. Do you use some screen scaling?

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Re: Problems in the lyx 2.4 menu (Debian testing)

[Stefano Simonucci]

I add more information. The bad behavior occurs when I use a 6.6 kernel 
with nvidia video driver. If I use a previous kernel 6.1 with nouveau 
video driver I have no problems.


Stefano

On 27/03/24 12:05, Stefano Simonucci wrote:
What version of 2.4 is this? Could you send a screenshot of what you 
observe ?


JMarc




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Re: Problems in the lyx 2.4 menu (Debian testing)

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 27/03/2024 à 10:56, Stefano Simonucci a écrit :
After the last upgrade from lyx 2.3 to lyx 2.4 I started to observe 
display problems in the menu and in the main window.


Some time ago I thought I had seen problems of this type online (I don't 
remember if it was a Qt problem), but with Google I wasn't able to see 
anything that suited my needs.


Hello,

What version of 2.4 is this? Could you send a screenshot of what you 
observe ?


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Problems in the lyx 2.4 menu (Debian testing)

[Stefano Simonucci]

After the last upgrade from lyx 2.3 to lyx 2.4 I started to observe 
display problems in the menu and in the main window.


Some time ago I thought I had seen problems of this type online (I don't 
remember if it was a Qt problem), but with Google I wasn't able to see 
anything that suited my needs.


Best regards

Stefano

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Re: Scheduled maintenance of LyX servers (Mar 21, 2024) [done]

[Eberhard W Lisse]

Thanks, tested it just now and doesn't make much difference.

el

On 2024-03-24 00:25, Pavel Sanda wrote:
[...]
> Yes, also looking at your domain, you might get way better speed
> from our .za mirror.
[...]
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Re: Scheduled maintenance of LyX servers (Mar 21, 2024) [done]

[Pavel Sanda]

On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 02:09:47PM -0400, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> On 3/22/24 17:44, Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> >On 22/03/2024 04:46, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> >>On 3/21/24 19:46, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> >[...]
> >>>Thanks a lot to both of you! I don't imagine that was fun, but it
> >>>certainly was very important.
> >>Seconded.
> >Thirded :-)-O
> >
> >Did you move the ftp server itself? I traditionally download from
> >ftp://ftp.lyx.org (using ncftp on the command line :-)-O).
> 
> It's a different ftp server. That one has not been moved.

Yes, also looking at your domain, you might get way better speed
from our .za mirror.

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Re: Scheduled maintenance of LyX servers (Mar 21, 2024) [done]

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 3/22/24 17:44, Eberhard W Lisse wrote:

On 22/03/2024 04:46, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

On 3/21/24 19:46, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

[...]

Thanks a lot to both of you! I don't imagine that was fun, but it
certainly was very important.

Seconded.

Thirded :-)-O

Did you move the ftp server itself? I traditionally download from
ftp://ftp.lyx.org (using ncftp on the command line :-)-O).


It's a different ftp server. That one has not been moved.

Riki


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Re: Scheduled maintenance of LyX servers (Mar 21, 2024) [done]

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 3/21/24 19:46, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 11:42:13PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote:

On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 10:23:40AM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote:

we plan to do the major transition of our web infrastructure soon.

We are done with the transition.

Basic summary:

- ftp server for wiki (not the ftp.lyx.org) is deceased.
   For uploading material use wiki-uploads.git, all developers have rw access.
   We need to do proxy for users, but I haven't seen this usage in past years,
   so we are probably fine with that solution.

- svn server is deceased.
   dictionary repo moved to dictionaries.git, all devs have rw access.
   www-user repo moved to www-user.git, previous contributors have rw access.

- www.lyx.org should work very similarly as before.

- wiki.lyx.org - there will be more changes here. Many modules seen updates,
   some modules do no exist anymore/no one updated for new PHP. I tried to fix
   the most flagrant cases, but I'm sure some corners won't work.

- bug tracker (lyx.org/trac) - updated to the most recent version, some
   UI changes, but it should feel familiar. Few plugins were not ported
   to new python and do not work anymore - most notable keywords.
   We allow users to register again, let's see how that goes.
   Gmail often refuses traffic from trac, JMarc has ambition to spin full
   fledged mailing service with bells and whistles demanded by google
   at some moment.
   


I'll update relevant descriptions on our web/wiki to reflect the changes
in the coming days + smaller polishing left out.
If something does not work, please report back, we may or may not fix it ;)

This was a long ride, thanks JMarc for beating the trac dragon :)

Thanks a lot to both of you! I don't imagine that was fun, but it certainly was 
very important.


Seconded.

Riki


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Re: Scheduled maintenance of LyX servers (Mar 21, 2024) [done]

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 11:42:13PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 10:23:40AM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> > we plan to do the major transition of our web infrastructure soon.
> 
> We are done with the transition.
> 
> Basic summary:
> 
> - ftp server for wiki (not the ftp.lyx.org) is deceased.
>   For uploading material use wiki-uploads.git, all developers have rw access.
>   We need to do proxy for users, but I haven't seen this usage in past years,
>   so we are probably fine with that solution.
> 
> - svn server is deceased.
>   dictionary repo moved to dictionaries.git, all devs have rw access.
>   www-user repo moved to www-user.git, previous contributors have rw access.
> 
> - www.lyx.org should work very similarly as before.
> 
> - wiki.lyx.org - there will be more changes here. Many modules seen updates,
>   some modules do no exist anymore/no one updated for new PHP. I tried to fix
>   the most flagrant cases, but I'm sure some corners won't work. 
> 
> - bug tracker (lyx.org/trac) - updated to the most recent version, some
>   UI changes, but it should feel familiar. Few plugins were not ported
>   to new python and do not work anymore - most notable keywords.
>   We allow users to register again, let's see how that goes.
>   Gmail often refuses traffic from trac, JMarc has ambition to spin full
>   fledged mailing service with bells and whistles demanded by google
>   at some moment.
>   
> 
> I'll update relevant descriptions on our web/wiki to reflect the changes
> in the coming days + smaller polishing left out.
> If something does not work, please report back, we may or may not fix it ;)
> 
> This was a long ride, thanks JMarc for beating the trac dragon :)

Thanks a lot to both of you! I don't imagine that was fun, but it certainly was 
very important.

Scott


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Re: Scheduled maintenance of LyX servers (Mar 21, 2024) [done]

[Pavel Sanda]

On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 10:23:40AM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> we plan to do the major transition of our web infrastructure soon.

We are done with the transition.

Basic summary:

- ftp server for wiki (not the ftp.lyx.org) is deceased.
  For uploading material use wiki-uploads.git, all developers have rw access.
  We need to do proxy for users, but I haven't seen this usage in past years,
  so we are probably fine with that solution.

- svn server is deceased.
  dictionary repo moved to dictionaries.git, all devs have rw access.
  www-user repo moved to www-user.git, previous contributors have rw access.

- www.lyx.org should work very similarly as before.

- wiki.lyx.org - there will be more changes here. Many modules seen updates,
  some modules do no exist anymore/no one updated for new PHP. I tried to fix
  the most flagrant cases, but I'm sure some corners won't work. 

- bug tracker (lyx.org/trac) - updated to the most recent version, some
  UI changes, but it should feel familiar. Few plugins were not ported
  to new python and do not work anymore - most notable keywords.
  We allow users to register again, let's see how that goes.
  Gmail often refuses traffic from trac, JMarc has ambition to spin full
  fledged mailing service with bells and whistles demanded by google
  at some moment.
  

I'll update relevant descriptions on our web/wiki to reflect the changes
in the coming days + smaller polishing left out.
If something does not work, please report back, we may or may not fix it ;)

This was a long ride, thanks JMarc for beating the trac dragon :)
Pavel
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Re: Scheduled maintenance of LyX servers (Mar 21, 2024)

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 3/21/24 05:25, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Le 20/03/2024 à 10:23, Pavel Sanda a écrit :

Dear LyXers,

we plan to do the major transition of our web infrastructure soon.
Web and wiki were already moved to read-only mode, bug tracker (trac) 
will be
probably inaccesible altogether, probably from Thu morning (all times 
in CET).

The main switch is planned on Thu evening hours. The optimistic scenario
is that we will finish by midnight.


The trac bug tracker has been disabled. As indicated, it should work 
again tonight.


Good luck!

I am on spring break next week, so will have some time then if need be.

Riki


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