A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Murat Yildizoglu 
Hi,
I use Lyx under OSX Mavericks.
I have discovered a small problem in beta2 yesterday: \Omega is invisible
in a math inset (but becomes visible when the cursor leaves it).
I have consequently installed the RC1 to check if this problem has been
solved. It seems that it is replaced by a smaller one: \Omega is replaced
by W in the math inset (but appears as \Omega out of it. \VarOmega has also
a problem by the way.

I attach a small lyx file in which you could check the problem (maybe it is
OSX only, I cannot check it).
Can you confirm it on OSX or other OS?

I have also observed another point that bugs me a little bit (maybe I am
missing the rationale of this): When I am typing math and try to insert a
superscript or an exponent to an expression using ^ Lyx uses instead an
accented letter if this letter accepts an accent (like i, j, e, etc.). One
than gets x\hat{\imath}  instead of x^{i} . It would be nice to neutralize
in math insets this default behavior that is perfectly reasonable in a word
in rm.

Do you think at it would be a good idea to change the default behavior (if
this is possible and easy of course)?

Best regards,

Murat


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Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Guenter Milde 
On 2014-04-07, Murat Yildizoglu wrote:

 I use Lyx under OSX Mavericks.
 I have discovered a small problem in beta2 yesterday: \Omega is invisible
 in a math inset (but becomes visible when the cursor leaves it).
 I have consequently installed the RC1 to check if this problem has been
 solved. It seems that it is replaced by a smaller one: \Omega is replaced
 by W in the math inset (but appears as \Omega out of it. \VarOmega has also
 a problem by the way.

I suppose, this is a problem of the installed screen-font.
I also suppose, you use the instant-preview, that replaces the math inset
with a LaTeX rendering when not editing it.

Are the \Omegas the only affected letters or does this affect all the Greek
symbols?

Are you able to see Greek letters in other editors?

 I attach a small lyx file in which you could check the problem (maybe it is
 OSX only, I cannot check it).
 Can you confirm it on OSX or other OS?

 I have also observed another point that bugs me a little bit (maybe I am
 missing the rationale of this): When I am typing math and try to insert a
 superscript or an exponent to an expression using ^ Lyx uses instead an
 accented letter if this letter accepts an accent (like i, j, e, etc.). One
 than gets x\hat{\imath}  instead of x^{i} . It would be nice to neutralize
 in math insets this default behavior that is perfectly reasonable in a word
 in rm.

It seems you use a keymap with dead keys. This is usually not a
LyX-specific, but a system wide setting. 

If you like it (generally), you may just keep it and remember to press the
accents *twice* for literal insertion or passing on to the math-editor:

   press   x ^ ^ i  
   to get  x^{i}
   
If you don't like it, use a different keymap, either globally or for LyX
(unfortunately, I don't know how to select the keymap under OSX).

Günter

 Do you think at it would be a good idea to change the default behavior (if
 this is possible and easy of course)?

 Best regards,

 Murat

Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
2014-04-07 10:23 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu:

 Hi,
 I use Lyx under OSX Mavericks.
 I have discovered a small problem in beta2 yesterday: \Omega is invisible
 in a math inset (but becomes visible when the cursor leaves it).
 I have consequently installed the RC1 to check if this problem has been
 solved. It seems that it is replaced by a smaller one: \Omega is replaced
 by W in the math inset (but appears as \Omega out of it. \VarOmega has also
 a problem by the way.

 I attach a small lyx file in which you could check the problem (maybe it
 is OSX only, I cannot check it).
 Can you confirm it on OSX or other OS?


This is a known problem which should be solved (in terms of worked
around) in 2.1.0 final. See
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7954

The workaround currently is to display \Omega instead of the glyph on
MacOSX. To really solve the problem, some more work is needed, which might
only go to LyX 2.2.

Jürgen

Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn 
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:
 2014-04-07 10:23 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu:

 Hi,
 I use Lyx under OSX Mavericks.
 I have discovered a small problem in beta2 yesterday: \Omega is invisible
 in a math inset (but becomes visible when the cursor leaves it).
 I have consequently installed the RC1 to check if this problem has been
 solved. It seems that it is replaced by a smaller one: \Omega is replaced by
 W in the math inset (but appears as \Omega out of it. \VarOmega has also a
 problem by the way.

 I attach a small lyx file in which you could check the problem (maybe it
 is OSX only, I cannot check it).
 Can you confirm it on OSX or other OS?


 This is a known problem which should be solved (in terms of worked around)
 in 2.1.0 final. See
 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7954

 The workaround currently is to display \Omega instead of the glyph on
 MacOSX. To really solve the problem, some more work is needed, which might
 only go to LyX 2.2.

 Jürgen

To slightly detail the response. The work-around is already in rc1 and
that's probably the small w that is observed. There will be no change
between 2.1.0 final and rc1.

Vincent

Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Murat Yildizoglu 
Hi,
Thanks to all for your help. In the test file I have sent, I see with RC1
uppercase W instead of \Omega, and that is definitely better than an empty
space that I get with beta2 indeed. I could live with it, even if it may
perturb new users.

My example contains all uppercase Greek letters and only \Omega and
\VarOmega seem to have this problem in my case.

Concerning the accents, the trick of typing twice would be a solution
indeed, I was not aware of it.

But it does not works in my case, I get a^{î}, instead of a^{i}.

Best regards,

Murat

FYI : OSX Mavericks and Lyx 2.1RC1


2014-04-07 11:37 GMT+02:00 Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org:

 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:
  2014-04-07 10:23 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu:
 
  Hi,
  I use Lyx under OSX Mavericks.
  I have discovered a small problem in beta2 yesterday: \Omega is
 invisible
  in a math inset (but becomes visible when the cursor leaves it).
  I have consequently installed the RC1 to check if this problem has been
  solved. It seems that it is replaced by a smaller one: \Omega is
 replaced by
  W in the math inset (but appears as \Omega out of it. \VarOmega has
 also a
  problem by the way.
 
  I attach a small lyx file in which you could check the problem (maybe it
  is OSX only, I cannot check it).
  Can you confirm it on OSX or other OS?
 
 
  This is a known problem which should be solved (in terms of worked
 around)
  in 2.1.0 final. See
  http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7954
 
  The workaround currently is to display \Omega instead of the glyph on
  MacOSX. To really solve the problem, some more work is needed, which
 might
  only go to LyX 2.2.
 
  Jürgen

 To slightly detail the response. The work-around is already in rc1 and
 that's probably the small w that is observed. There will be no change
 between 2.1.0 final and rc1.

 Vincent




-- 


*Prof. Murat Yildizoglu*

Note: Please use the following address as such

UNIVERSITE DE BORDEAUX
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
MURAT YILDIZOGLU
16 AVENUE LEON DUGUIT
CS 50057
33608 PESSAC CEDEX
FRANCE

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn 
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Murat Yildizoglu 
murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:


 Concerning the accents, the trick of typing twice would be a solution
 indeed, I was not aware of it.

 But it does not works in my case, I get a^{î}, instead of a^{i}.


I'm not sure where this comes from. It is quite normal behaviour if I use a
Dutch keyboard layout in text for example. What I usually do then is to
press '^' and space.

Vincent

Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Murat Yildizoglu 
Yes Vincent, ^+space is what I use, but since I do not need space for many
letters, I have a tendency to get lazy and drop the space and get caught by
the i, a, e of course ;-)
In a math inset, do we really need ^interpreted as a accent, since it's
mainly used as the subscript operator in LaTeX?

Best regards,

Murat


2014-04-07 12:33 GMT+02:00 Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org:



 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:


 Concerning the accents, the trick of typing twice would be a solution
 indeed, I was not aware of it.

 But it does not works in my case, I get a^{î}, instead of a^{i}.


 I'm not sure where this comes from. It is quite normal behaviour if I use
 a Dutch keyboard layout in text for example. What I usually do then is to
 press '^' and space.

 Vincent




-- 


*Prof. Murat Yildizoglu*

Note: Please use the following address as such

UNIVERSITE DE BORDEAUX
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
MURAT YILDIZOGLU
16 AVENUE LEON DUGUIT
CS 50057
33608 PESSAC CEDEX
FRANCE

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
2014-04-07 11:37 GMT+02:00 Vincent van Ravesteijn:

 To slightly detail the response. The work-around is already in rc1 and
 that's probably the small w that is observed. There will be no change
 between 2.1.0 final and rc1.


Hm, I thought Georg fixed the small w thing at [23752e611/lyxgit]. But
apparently that was not sufficient, since this fix predates rc1.

Jürgen


  Vincent

A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Murat Yildizoglu 
Hi,
I use Lyx under OSX Mavericks.
I have discovered a small problem in beta2 yesterday: \Omega is invisible
in a math inset (but becomes visible when the cursor leaves it).
I have consequently installed the RC1 to check if this problem has been
solved. It seems that it is replaced by a smaller one: \Omega is replaced
by W in the math inset (but appears as \Omega out of it. \VarOmega has also
a problem by the way.

I attach a small lyx file in which you could check the problem (maybe it is
OSX only, I cannot check it).
Can you confirm it on OSX or other OS?

I have also observed another point that bugs me a little bit (maybe I am
missing the rationale of this): When I am typing math and try to insert a
superscript or an exponent to an expression using ^ Lyx uses instead an
accented letter if this letter accepts an accent (like i, j, e, etc.). One
than gets x\hat{\imath}  instead of x^{i} . It would be nice to neutralize
in math insets this default behavior that is perfectly reasonable in a word
in rm.

Do you think at it would be a good idea to change the default behavior (if
this is possible and easy of course)?

Best regards,

Murat


-- 


*Prof. Murat Yildizoglu*

Note: Please use the following address as such

UNIVERSITE DE BORDEAUX
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
MURAT YILDIZOGLU
16 AVENUE LEON DUGUIT
CS 50057
33608 PESSAC CEDEX
FRANCE

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info


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Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Guenter Milde 
On 2014-04-07, Murat Yildizoglu wrote:

 I use Lyx under OSX Mavericks.
 I have discovered a small problem in beta2 yesterday: \Omega is invisible
 in a math inset (but becomes visible when the cursor leaves it).
 I have consequently installed the RC1 to check if this problem has been
 solved. It seems that it is replaced by a smaller one: \Omega is replaced
 by W in the math inset (but appears as \Omega out of it. \VarOmega has also
 a problem by the way.

I suppose, this is a problem of the installed screen-font.
I also suppose, you use the instant-preview, that replaces the math inset
with a LaTeX rendering when not editing it.

Are the \Omegas the only affected letters or does this affect all the Greek
symbols?

Are you able to see Greek letters in other editors?

 I attach a small lyx file in which you could check the problem (maybe it is
 OSX only, I cannot check it).
 Can you confirm it on OSX or other OS?

 I have also observed another point that bugs me a little bit (maybe I am
 missing the rationale of this): When I am typing math and try to insert a
 superscript or an exponent to an expression using ^ Lyx uses instead an
 accented letter if this letter accepts an accent (like i, j, e, etc.). One
 than gets x\hat{\imath}  instead of x^{i} . It would be nice to neutralize
 in math insets this default behavior that is perfectly reasonable in a word
 in rm.

It seems you use a keymap with dead keys. This is usually not a
LyX-specific, but a system wide setting. 

If you like it (generally), you may just keep it and remember to press the
accents *twice* for literal insertion or passing on to the math-editor:

   press   x ^ ^ i  
   to get  x^{i}
   
If you don't like it, use a different keymap, either globally or for LyX
(unfortunately, I don't know how to select the keymap under OSX).

Günter

 Do you think at it would be a good idea to change the default behavior (if
 this is possible and easy of course)?

 Best regards,

 Murat

Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
2014-04-07 10:23 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu:

 Hi,
 I use Lyx under OSX Mavericks.
 I have discovered a small problem in beta2 yesterday: \Omega is invisible
 in a math inset (but becomes visible when the cursor leaves it).
 I have consequently installed the RC1 to check if this problem has been
 solved. It seems that it is replaced by a smaller one: \Omega is replaced
 by W in the math inset (but appears as \Omega out of it. \VarOmega has also
 a problem by the way.

 I attach a small lyx file in which you could check the problem (maybe it
 is OSX only, I cannot check it).
 Can you confirm it on OSX or other OS?


This is a known problem which should be solved (in terms of worked
around) in 2.1.0 final. See
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7954

The workaround currently is to display \Omega instead of the glyph on
MacOSX. To really solve the problem, some more work is needed, which might
only go to LyX 2.2.

Jürgen

Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn 
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:
 2014-04-07 10:23 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu:

 Hi,
 I use Lyx under OSX Mavericks.
 I have discovered a small problem in beta2 yesterday: \Omega is invisible
 in a math inset (but becomes visible when the cursor leaves it).
 I have consequently installed the RC1 to check if this problem has been
 solved. It seems that it is replaced by a smaller one: \Omega is replaced by
 W in the math inset (but appears as \Omega out of it. \VarOmega has also a
 problem by the way.

 I attach a small lyx file in which you could check the problem (maybe it
 is OSX only, I cannot check it).
 Can you confirm it on OSX or other OS?


 This is a known problem which should be solved (in terms of worked around)
 in 2.1.0 final. See
 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7954

 The workaround currently is to display \Omega instead of the glyph on
 MacOSX. To really solve the problem, some more work is needed, which might
 only go to LyX 2.2.

 Jürgen

To slightly detail the response. The work-around is already in rc1 and
that's probably the small w that is observed. There will be no change
between 2.1.0 final and rc1.

Vincent

Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Murat Yildizoglu 
Hi,
Thanks to all for your help. In the test file I have sent, I see with RC1
uppercase W instead of \Omega, and that is definitely better than an empty
space that I get with beta2 indeed. I could live with it, even if it may
perturb new users.

My example contains all uppercase Greek letters and only \Omega and
\VarOmega seem to have this problem in my case.

Concerning the accents, the trick of typing twice would be a solution
indeed, I was not aware of it.

But it does not works in my case, I get a^{î}, instead of a^{i}.

Best regards,

Murat

FYI : OSX Mavericks and Lyx 2.1RC1


2014-04-07 11:37 GMT+02:00 Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org:

 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:
  2014-04-07 10:23 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu:
 
  Hi,
  I use Lyx under OSX Mavericks.
  I have discovered a small problem in beta2 yesterday: \Omega is
 invisible
  in a math inset (but becomes visible when the cursor leaves it).
  I have consequently installed the RC1 to check if this problem has been
  solved. It seems that it is replaced by a smaller one: \Omega is
 replaced by
  W in the math inset (but appears as \Omega out of it. \VarOmega has
 also a
  problem by the way.
 
  I attach a small lyx file in which you could check the problem (maybe it
  is OSX only, I cannot check it).
  Can you confirm it on OSX or other OS?
 
 
  This is a known problem which should be solved (in terms of worked
 around)
  in 2.1.0 final. See
  http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7954
 
  The workaround currently is to display \Omega instead of the glyph on
  MacOSX. To really solve the problem, some more work is needed, which
 might
  only go to LyX 2.2.
 
  Jürgen

 To slightly detail the response. The work-around is already in rc1 and
 that's probably the small w that is observed. There will be no change
 between 2.1.0 final and rc1.

 Vincent




-- 


*Prof. Murat Yildizoglu*

Note: Please use the following address as such

UNIVERSITE DE BORDEAUX
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
MURAT YILDIZOGLU
16 AVENUE LEON DUGUIT
CS 50057
33608 PESSAC CEDEX
FRANCE

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn 
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Murat Yildizoglu 
murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:


 Concerning the accents, the trick of typing twice would be a solution
 indeed, I was not aware of it.

 But it does not works in my case, I get a^{î}, instead of a^{i}.


I'm not sure where this comes from. It is quite normal behaviour if I use a
Dutch keyboard layout in text for example. What I usually do then is to
press '^' and space.

Vincent

Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Murat Yildizoglu 
Yes Vincent, ^+space is what I use, but since I do not need space for many
letters, I have a tendency to get lazy and drop the space and get caught by
the i, a, e of course ;-)
In a math inset, do we really need ^interpreted as a accent, since it's
mainly used as the subscript operator in LaTeX?

Best regards,

Murat


2014-04-07 12:33 GMT+02:00 Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org:



 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr wrote:


 Concerning the accents, the trick of typing twice would be a solution
 indeed, I was not aware of it.

 But it does not works in my case, I get a^{î}, instead of a^{i}.


 I'm not sure where this comes from. It is quite normal behaviour if I use
 a Dutch keyboard layout in text for example. What I usually do then is to
 press '^' and space.

 Vincent




-- 


*Prof. Murat Yildizoglu*

Note: Please use the following address as such

UNIVERSITE DE BORDEAUX
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
MURAT YILDIZOGLU
16 AVENUE LEON DUGUIT
CS 50057
33608 PESSAC CEDEX
FRANCE

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info

Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
2014-04-07 11:37 GMT+02:00 Vincent van Ravesteijn:

 To slightly detail the response. The work-around is already in rc1 and
 that's probably the small w that is observed. There will be no change
 between 2.1.0 final and rc1.


Hm, I thought Georg fixed the small w thing at [23752e611/lyxgit]. But
apparently that was not sufficient, since this fix predates rc1.

Jürgen


  Vincent

A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Murat Yildizoglu 
Hi,
I use Lyx under OSX Mavericks.
I have discovered a small problem in beta2 yesterday: \Omega is invisible
in a math inset (but becomes visible when the cursor leaves it).
I have consequently installed the RC1 to check if this problem has been
solved. It seems that it is replaced by a smaller one: \Omega is replaced
by W in the math inset (but appears as \Omega out of it. \VarOmega has also
a problem by the way.

I attach a small lyx file in which you could check the problem (maybe it is
OSX only, I cannot check it).
Can you confirm it on OSX or other OS?

I have also observed another point that bugs me a little bit (maybe I am
missing the rationale of this): When I am typing math and try to insert a
superscript or an exponent to an expression using ^ Lyx uses instead an
accented letter if this letter accepts an accent (like i, j, e, etc.). One
than gets x\hat{\imath}  instead of x^{i} . It would be nice to neutralize
in math insets this default behavior that is perfectly reasonable in a word
in rm.

Do you think at it would be a good idea to change the default behavior (if
this is possible and easy of course)?

Best regards,

Murat


-- 


*Prof. Murat Yildizoglu*

Note: Please use the following address as such

UNIVERSITE DE BORDEAUX
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
MURAT YILDIZOGLU
16 AVENUE LEON DUGUIT
CS 50057
33608 PESSAC CEDEX
FRANCE

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info


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Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Guenter Milde 
On 2014-04-07, Murat Yildizoglu wrote:

> I use Lyx under OSX Mavericks.
> I have discovered a small problem in beta2 yesterday: \Omega is invisible
> in a math inset (but becomes visible when the cursor leaves it).
> I have consequently installed the RC1 to check if this problem has been
> solved. It seems that it is replaced by a smaller one: \Omega is replaced
> by W in the math inset (but appears as \Omega out of it. \VarOmega has also
> a problem by the way.

I suppose, this is a problem of the installed screen-font.
I also suppose, you use the "instant-preview", that replaces the math inset
with a LaTeX rendering when not editing it.

Are the \Omegas the only affected letters or does this affect all the Greek
symbols?

Are you able to see Greek letters in other editors?

> I attach a small lyx file in which you could check the problem (maybe it is
> OSX only, I cannot check it).
> Can you confirm it on OSX or other OS?

> I have also observed another point that bugs me a little bit (maybe I am
> missing the rationale of this): When I am typing math and try to insert a
> superscript or an exponent to an expression using ^ Lyx uses instead an
> accented letter if this letter accepts an accent (like i, j, e, etc.). One
> than gets x\hat{\imath}  instead of x^{i} . It would be nice to neutralize
> in math insets this default behavior that is perfectly reasonable in a word
> in rm.

It seems you use a keymap with "dead keys". This is usually not a
LyX-specific, but a system wide setting. 

If you like it (generally), you may just keep it and remember to press the
accents *twice* for literal insertion or passing on to the math-editor:

   press   x ^ ^ i  
   to get  x^{i}
   
If you don't like it, use a different keymap, either globally or for LyX
(unfortunately, I don't know how to select the keymap under OSX).

Günter

> Do you think at it would be a good idea to change the default behavior (if
> this is possible and easy of course)?

> Best regards,

> Murat

Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
2014-04-07 10:23 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu:

> Hi,
> I use Lyx under OSX Mavericks.
> I have discovered a small problem in beta2 yesterday: \Omega is invisible
> in a math inset (but becomes visible when the cursor leaves it).
> I have consequently installed the RC1 to check if this problem has been
> solved. It seems that it is replaced by a smaller one: \Omega is replaced
> by W in the math inset (but appears as \Omega out of it. \VarOmega has also
> a problem by the way.
>
> I attach a small lyx file in which you could check the problem (maybe it
> is OSX only, I cannot check it).
> Can you confirm it on OSX or other OS?
>

This is a known problem which should be solved (in terms of "worked
around") in 2.1.0 final. See
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7954

The workaround currently is to display "\Omega" instead of the glyph on
MacOSX. To really solve the problem, some more work is needed, which might
only go to LyX 2.2.

Jürgen

Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn 
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:
> 2014-04-07 10:23 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu:
>
>> Hi,
>> I use Lyx under OSX Mavericks.
>> I have discovered a small problem in beta2 yesterday: \Omega is invisible
>> in a math inset (but becomes visible when the cursor leaves it).
>> I have consequently installed the RC1 to check if this problem has been
>> solved. It seems that it is replaced by a smaller one: \Omega is replaced by
>> W in the math inset (but appears as \Omega out of it. \VarOmega has also a
>> problem by the way.
>>
>> I attach a small lyx file in which you could check the problem (maybe it
>> is OSX only, I cannot check it).
>> Can you confirm it on OSX or other OS?
>
>
> This is a known problem which should be solved (in terms of "worked around")
> in 2.1.0 final. See
> http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7954
>
> The workaround currently is to display "\Omega" instead of the glyph on
> MacOSX. To really solve the problem, some more work is needed, which might
> only go to LyX 2.2.
>
> Jürgen

To slightly detail the response. The work-around is already in rc1 and
that's probably the small w that is observed. There will be no change
between 2.1.0 final and rc1.

Vincent

Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Murat Yildizoglu 
Hi,
Thanks to all for your help. In the test file I have sent, I see with RC1
uppercase W instead of \Omega, and that is definitely better than an empty
space that I get with beta2 indeed. I could live with it, even if it may
perturb new users.

My example contains all uppercase Greek letters and only \Omega and
\VarOmega seem to have this problem in my case.

Concerning the accents, the trick of typing twice would be a solution
indeed, I was not aware of it.

But it does not works in my case, I get a^{î}, instead of a^{i}.

Best regards,

Murat

FYI : OSX Mavericks and Lyx 2.1RC1


2014-04-07 11:37 GMT+02:00 Vincent van Ravesteijn :

> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:
> > 2014-04-07 10:23 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> I use Lyx under OSX Mavericks.
> >> I have discovered a small problem in beta2 yesterday: \Omega is
> invisible
> >> in a math inset (but becomes visible when the cursor leaves it).
> >> I have consequently installed the RC1 to check if this problem has been
> >> solved. It seems that it is replaced by a smaller one: \Omega is
> replaced by
> >> W in the math inset (but appears as \Omega out of it. \VarOmega has
> also a
> >> problem by the way.
> >>
> >> I attach a small lyx file in which you could check the problem (maybe it
> >> is OSX only, I cannot check it).
> >> Can you confirm it on OSX or other OS?
> >
> >
> > This is a known problem which should be solved (in terms of "worked
> around")
> > in 2.1.0 final. See
> > http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7954
> >
> > The workaround currently is to display "\Omega" instead of the glyph on
> > MacOSX. To really solve the problem, some more work is needed, which
> might
> > only go to LyX 2.2.
> >
> > Jürgen
>
> To slightly detail the response. The work-around is already in rc1 and
> that's probably the small w that is observed. There will be no change
> between 2.1.0 final and rc1.
>
> Vincent
>



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Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn 
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Murat Yildizoglu <
murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr> wrote:

>
> Concerning the accents, the trick of typing twice would be a solution
> indeed, I was not aware of it.
>
> But it does not works in my case, I get a^{î}, instead of a^{i}.
>
>
I'm not sure where this comes from. It is quite normal behaviour if I use a
Dutch keyboard layout in text for example. What I usually do then is to
press '^' and .

Vincent

Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Murat Yildizoglu 
Yes Vincent, ^+space is what I use, but since I do not need space for many
letters, I have a tendency to get lazy and drop the space and get caught by
the i, a, e of course ;-)
In a math inset, do we really need ^interpreted as a accent, since it's
mainly used as the subscript operator in LaTeX?

Best regards,

Murat


2014-04-07 12:33 GMT+02:00 Vincent van Ravesteijn :

>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Murat Yildizoglu <
> murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr> wrote:
>
>>
>> Concerning the accents, the trick of typing twice would be a solution
>> indeed, I was not aware of it.
>>
>> But it does not works in my case, I get a^{î}, instead of a^{i}.
>>
>>
> I'm not sure where this comes from. It is quite normal behaviour if I use
> a Dutch keyboard layout in text for example. What I usually do then is to
> press '^' and .
>
> Vincent
>



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UNIVERSITE DE BORDEAUX
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
MURAT YILDIZOGLU
16 AVENUE LEON DUGUIT
CS 50057
33608 PESSAC CEDEX
FRANCE

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mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

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Re: A small bug maybe and a small request

2014-04-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller 
2014-04-07 11:37 GMT+02:00 Vincent van Ravesteijn:

> To slightly detail the response. The work-around is already in rc1 and
> that's probably the small w that is observed. There will be no change
> between 2.1.0 final and rc1.
>

Hm, I thought Georg fixed the small w thing at [23752e611/lyxgit]. But
apparently that was not sufficient, since this fix predates rc1.

Jürgen


>  Vincent
>