Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 4:54 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas: You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the reference for the Frame environment. If I am in a, for example, Problem environment and I want to get out of it into the standard environment, all I have to do is issue a couple of returns.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread aparsloe
On 8/05/2014 6:25 p.m., Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2014-05-08 4:54 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas: You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the reference for the Frame environment. If I am in a, for example, Problem environment and I want to get out of it into the standard

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 9:26 GMT+02:00 aparsloe: Environments like LyX-Code, Quotation, Quote, Verse and the four list environments all resolve to Standard on two returns. (But Verbatim doesn't. Perhaps it should?) Oh, I see. This behavior obviously depends on whether KeepEmpty is true or not. Frame

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Hi to all, I have already signaled, some time ago I think, that this behaviour is somewhat cumbersome, and that the students (doctoral and post-doctoral students) to whom I was teaching LyX as a general front end to everything (R, PDF, etc.) were somewhat baffled by the operations necessary

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 12:37 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu: We had in the recent past some abusive criticisms in the list, but that should not make us immediately adopt a defensive discourse when a new criticism appears, especially if it is constructive and detailed as here. Let me stress, in case it has

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Let me just rephrase that we cannot go back to the 2.0 UI (for the technical reasons I have explained in previous posts) and Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still want to go that way)? Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster for experienced users, though.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Julio Rojas wrote: Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster for experienced users, though. No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes the document more fragile and more cumbersome in 90% of cases. Fragile because it's

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/08/2014 02:51 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: Julio Rojas wrote: Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster for experienced users, though. No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes the document more fragile and more

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my academic life in which everything is on the production branch, so testing of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk loosing time. So, sad as it seems, I only noticed these changes after Ubuntu asked me if

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my academic life in which everything is on the production branch, so testing of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk loosing time.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread David L. Johnson
On 05/08/2014 09:52 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, now I understand what Jurgen meant by no need to indent the paragraph after a frame title for the text to remain within the Frame. I thought that by saying it was a Frame

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
Nah, Liviu, thanks for the suggestion but downgrading is never a good solution. I have been working this whole week with Beamer on 2.1 and let's say that the new UI is the least of my concerns. ;) - Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com On Thu, May 8,

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 4:54 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas: You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the reference for the Frame environment. If I am in a, for example, Problem environment and I want to get out of it into the standard environment, all I have to do is issue a couple of returns.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread aparsloe
On 8/05/2014 6:25 p.m., Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2014-05-08 4:54 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas: You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the reference for the Frame environment. If I am in a, for example, Problem environment and I want to get out of it into the standard

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 9:26 GMT+02:00 aparsloe: Environments like LyX-Code, Quotation, Quote, Verse and the four list environments all resolve to Standard on two returns. (But Verbatim doesn't. Perhaps it should?) Oh, I see. This behavior obviously depends on whether KeepEmpty is true or not. Frame

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Hi to all, I have already signaled, some time ago I think, that this behaviour is somewhat cumbersome, and that the students (doctoral and post-doctoral students) to whom I was teaching LyX as a general front end to everything (R, PDF, etc.) were somewhat baffled by the operations necessary

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 12:37 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu: We had in the recent past some abusive criticisms in the list, but that should not make us immediately adopt a defensive discourse when a new criticism appears, especially if it is constructive and detailed as here. Let me stress, in case it has

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Let me just rephrase that we cannot go back to the 2.0 UI (for the technical reasons I have explained in previous posts) and Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still want to go that way)? Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster for experienced users, though.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Julio Rojas wrote: Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster for experienced users, though. No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes the document more fragile and more cumbersome in 90% of cases. Fragile because it's

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/08/2014 02:51 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: Julio Rojas wrote: Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster for experienced users, though. No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes the document more fragile and more

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my academic life in which everything is on the production branch, so testing of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk loosing time. So, sad as it seems, I only noticed these changes after Ubuntu asked me if

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my academic life in which everything is on the production branch, so testing of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk loosing time.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread David L. Johnson
On 05/08/2014 09:52 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, now I understand what Jurgen meant by no need to indent the paragraph after a frame title for the text to remain within the Frame. I thought that by saying it was a Frame

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
Nah, Liviu, thanks for the suggestion but downgrading is never a good solution. I have been working this whole week with Beamer on 2.1 and let's say that the new UI is the least of my concerns. ;) - Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com On Thu, May 8,

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 4:54 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas: > You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the reference for > the "Frame" environment. If I am in a, for example, "Problem" environment > and I want to get out of it into the standard environment, all I have to do > is issue a couple of

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread aparsloe
On 8/05/2014 6:25 p.m., Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2014-05-08 4:54 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas: You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the reference for the "Frame" environment. If I am in a, for example, "Problem" environment and I want to get out of it into the

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 9:26 GMT+02:00 aparsloe: > Environments like LyX-Code, Quotation, Quote, Verse and the four list > environments all resolve to Standard on two returns. (But Verbatim > doesn't. Perhaps it should?) > Oh, I see. This behavior obviously depends on whether KeepEmpty is true or not.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Hi to all, I have already signaled, some time ago I think, that this behaviour is somewhat cumbersome, and that the students (doctoral and post-doctoral students) to whom I was teaching LyX as a general front end to everything (R, PDF, etc.) were somewhat baffled by the operations necessary

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-08 12:37 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu: > We had in the recent past some abusive criticisms in the list, but that > should not make us immediately adopt a defensive discourse when a new > criticism appears, especially if it is constructive and detailed as here. > Let me stress, in case it

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Let me just rephrase that we cannot go back to the > 2.0 UI (for the technical reasons I have explained in previous posts) and Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
> > Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the > previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still want to > go that way)? Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster for experienced users, though.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Julio Rojas wrote: > Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster > for experienced users, though. No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes the document more fragile and more cumbersome in 90% of cases. Fragile because it's

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/08/2014 02:51 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: Julio Rojas wrote: Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster for experienced users, though. No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes the document more fragile and more

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my academic life in which everything is on the "production" branch, so testing of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk loosing time. So, sad as it seems, I only noticed these changes after Ubuntu asked me

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas wrote: > I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my > academic life in which everything is on the "production" branch, so testing > of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread David L. Johnson
On 05/08/2014 09:52 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas wrote: BTW, now I understand what Jurgen meant by "no need" to indent the paragraph after a frame title for the text to remain within the "Frame". I thought that by saying it was a

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-08 Thread Julio Rojas
Nah, Liviu, thanks for the suggestion but downgrading is never a good solution. I have been working this whole week with Beamer on 2.1 and let's say that the new UI is the least of my concerns. ;) - Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com On Thu, May 8,

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Neal Becker
Julio Rojas wrote: Thanks Scott, This shortcut is quite useful in getting me over the old Frame environment hangover. Nevertheless, while trying both methods another problem appeared: To get out of the title of a Frame pressing return is not enough. One has to use the arrows to get out of

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/07/2014 08:07 AM, Neal Becker wrote: Julio Rojas wrote: Thanks Scott, This shortcut is quite useful in getting me over the old Frame environment hangover. Nevertheless, while trying both methods another problem appeared: To get out of the title of a Frame pressing return is not enough.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-07 17:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Heck: One idea I had was to implement something corresponding to the Next Style option in LibreOffice styles. So, e.g., if you are in a Frame environment and you hit Return, then LyX would know NOT to make the next line also a Frame, but instead to revert to

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Neal Becker
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2014-05-07 17:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Heck: One idea I had was to implement something corresponding to the Next Style option in LibreOffice styles. So, e.g., if you are in a Frame environment and you hit Return, then LyX would know NOT to make the next line also a

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-07 17:14 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker: OK, I'm confused here. Let's consider workflow to make a bullet chart. I was talking about the Standard paragraph, not Itemize. Insert sep. Hit return. Select Frame Fill in Title oops - return in title does nothing, navigate past title (right

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Neal Becker
After arrow right, return. I can type some text. Looks nice. Oh, it's not nested in the frame. Hit tab. Now you have Frame inside Frame. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote: 2014-05-07 17:14 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker: OK, I'm confused here. Let's

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Neal Becker
Which brings up another question. Alt-A return? How could I have discovered this? If I look at Help/Shortcuts, I don't see it (or am I blind?) I wish lyx had a way to discover things like emacs does. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: After arrow right,

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-07 17:38 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker: After arrow right, return. I can type some text. Looks nice. Oh, it's not nested in the frame. Hit tab. Well, you know that you only need to nest paragraphs of a different layout. This is the case for _any_ LyX paragraph layout. So why would you

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-07 17:41 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: Which brings up another question. Alt-A return? How could I have discovered this? Reading the beamer manual perhaps? Also, the shortcut is displayed in the respective menu (Edit). And it is also documented generally in the LyX

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Julio Rojas
Dear Jürgen, there is no need for irony on your comments. Everybody is doing an honest effort to work with the new Beamer environment. You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the reference for the Frame environment. If I am in a, for example, Problem environment and I want to get

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Neal Becker
Julio Rojas wrote: Thanks Scott, This shortcut is quite useful in getting me over the old Frame environment hangover. Nevertheless, while trying both methods another problem appeared: To get out of the title of a Frame pressing return is not enough. One has to use the arrows to get out of

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/07/2014 08:07 AM, Neal Becker wrote: Julio Rojas wrote: Thanks Scott, This shortcut is quite useful in getting me over the old Frame environment hangover. Nevertheless, while trying both methods another problem appeared: To get out of the title of a Frame pressing return is not enough.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-07 17:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Heck: One idea I had was to implement something corresponding to the Next Style option in LibreOffice styles. So, e.g., if you are in a Frame environment and you hit Return, then LyX would know NOT to make the next line also a Frame, but instead to revert to

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Neal Becker
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2014-05-07 17:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Heck: One idea I had was to implement something corresponding to the Next Style option in LibreOffice styles. So, e.g., if you are in a Frame environment and you hit Return, then LyX would know NOT to make the next line also a

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-07 17:14 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker: OK, I'm confused here. Let's consider workflow to make a bullet chart. I was talking about the Standard paragraph, not Itemize. Insert sep. Hit return. Select Frame Fill in Title oops - return in title does nothing, navigate past title (right

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Neal Becker
After arrow right, return. I can type some text. Looks nice. Oh, it's not nested in the frame. Hit tab. Now you have Frame inside Frame. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote: 2014-05-07 17:14 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker: OK, I'm confused here. Let's

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Neal Becker
Which brings up another question. Alt-A return? How could I have discovered this? If I look at Help/Shortcuts, I don't see it (or am I blind?) I wish lyx had a way to discover things like emacs does. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: After arrow right,

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-07 17:38 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker: After arrow right, return. I can type some text. Looks nice. Oh, it's not nested in the frame. Hit tab. Well, you know that you only need to nest paragraphs of a different layout. This is the case for _any_ LyX paragraph layout. So why would you

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-07 17:41 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: Which brings up another question. Alt-A return? How could I have discovered this? Reading the beamer manual perhaps? Also, the shortcut is displayed in the respective menu (Edit). And it is also documented generally in the LyX

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Julio Rojas
Dear Jürgen, there is no need for irony on your comments. Everybody is doing an honest effort to work with the new Beamer environment. You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the reference for the Frame environment. If I am in a, for example, Problem environment and I want to get

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Neal Becker
Julio Rojas wrote: > Thanks Scott, > > This shortcut is quite useful in getting me over the old "Frame" > environment hangover. Nevertheless, while trying both methods another > "problem" appeared: To get out of the title of a "Frame" pressing return is > not enough. One has to use the arrows to

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Richard Heck
On 05/07/2014 08:07 AM, Neal Becker wrote: Julio Rojas wrote: Thanks Scott, This shortcut is quite useful in getting me over the old "Frame" environment hangover. Nevertheless, while trying both methods another "problem" appeared: To get out of the title of a "Frame" pressing return is not

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-07 17:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Heck: > One idea I had was to implement something corresponding to the "Next > Style" option in LibreOffice styles. So, e.g., if you are in a Frame > environment and you hit , then LyX would know NOT to make the next > line also a Frame, but instead to revert to

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Neal Becker
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > 2014-05-07 17:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Heck: > >> One idea I had was to implement something corresponding to the "Next >> Style" option in LibreOffice styles. So, e.g., if you are in a Frame >> environment and you hit , then LyX would know NOT to make the next >> line

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-07 17:14 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker: > OK, I'm confused here. Let's consider workflow to make a bullet chart. > I was talking about the Standard paragraph, not Itemize. > Insert sep. Hit return. > Select Frame > Fill in Title > oops - return in title does nothing, navigate past title

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Neal Becker
After arrow right, return. I can type some text. Looks nice. Oh, it's not nested in the frame. Hit tab. Now you have Frame inside Frame. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > 2014-05-07 17:14 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker: > >> OK, I'm confused here. Let's

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Neal Becker
Which brings up another question. Alt-A return? How could I have discovered this? If I look at Help/Shortcuts, I don't see it (or am I blind?) I wish lyx had a way to discover things like emacs does. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > After arrow

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-07 17:38 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker: > After arrow right, return. > I can type some text. Looks nice. Oh, it's not nested in the frame. Hit > tab. > Well, you know that you only need to nest paragraphs of a different layout. This is the case for _any_ LyX paragraph layout. So why would you

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-07 17:41 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker : > Which brings up another question. Alt-A return? How could I have > discovered this? > Reading the beamer manual perhaps? Also, the shortcut is displayed in the respective menu (Edit). And it is also documented generally in the LyX

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-07 Thread Julio Rojas
Dear Jürgen, there is no need for irony on your comments. Everybody is doing an honest effort to work with the "new" Beamer environment. You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the reference for the "Frame" environment. If I am in a, for example, "Problem" environment and I want to

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Read the last answer in this mail: http://marc.info/?l=lyx-usersm=139595652821799w=2 It may be worth to copy paste this email to note into beamer manual as a note, it would help frustrated users to get through the first shock what improved beamer support means ;)

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-06 Thread Julio Rojas
Thanks Scott, This shortcut is quite useful in getting me over the old Frame environment hangover. Nevertheless, while trying both methods another problem appeared: To get out of the title of a Frame pressing return is not enough. One has to use the arrows to get out of the Frame title box and

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Read the last answer in this mail: http://marc.info/?l=lyx-usersm=139595652821799w=2 It may be worth to copy paste this email to note into beamer manual as a note, it would help frustrated users to get through the first shock what improved beamer support means ;)

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-06 Thread Julio Rojas
Thanks Scott, This shortcut is quite useful in getting me over the old Frame environment hangover. Nevertheless, while trying both methods another problem appeared: To get out of the title of a Frame pressing return is not enough. One has to use the arrows to get out of the Frame title box and

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Read the last answer in this mail: > http://marc.info/?l=lyx-users=139595652821799=2 It may be worth to copy paste this email to note into beamer manual as a note, it would help frustrated users to get through the first shock what improved beamer support means ;)

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-06 Thread Julio Rojas
Thanks Scott, This shortcut is quite useful in getting me over the old "Frame" environment hangover. Nevertheless, while trying both methods another "problem" appeared: To get out of the title of a "Frame" pressing return is not enough. One has to use the arrows to get out of the "Frame title"

Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Julio Rojas
Dear developers, Why was it decided to force users to indent content inside a Frame environment in Lyx 2.1.0, instead of leaving the default behavior in Lyx 2.0.x which automatically set your content between Frames as part of the one on top? Was it to standardize it with all other environments in

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-05 18:46 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com: Dear developers, Why was it decided to force users to indent content inside a Frame environment in Lyx 2.1.0, instead of leaving the default behavior in Lyx 2.0.x which automatically set your content between Frames as part of the

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Julio Rojas
Dear Jürgen Thanks for your answer. I suspected all the time that the reasons were the ones explained in that email. Now, I will go back to get used to the new/improved/simpler/optimized/standardized way with the slides for my courses. ;) Regards.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-05 19:14 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas: Thanks for your answer. I suspected all the time that the reasons were the ones explained in that email. Now, I will go back to get used to the new/improved/simpler/optimized/standardized way with the slides for my courses. ;) And please report back.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Julio Rojas
Actually is the separator what annoys me the most. Is there any way in which it is automatically inserted by the UI? I find myself doing copy-paste all the tame from the previous slide in order to add a CR, a separator, a new title and an indented line. Without the separator I would be doing a

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:58 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: Actually is the separator what annoys me the most. Is there any way in which it is automatically inserted by the UI? I find myself doing copy-paste all the tame from the previous slide in order to add a CR, a separator, a

Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Julio Rojas
Dear developers, Why was it decided to force users to indent content inside a Frame environment in Lyx 2.1.0, instead of leaving the default behavior in Lyx 2.0.x which automatically set your content between Frames as part of the one on top? Was it to standardize it with all other environments in

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-05 18:46 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com: Dear developers, Why was it decided to force users to indent content inside a Frame environment in Lyx 2.1.0, instead of leaving the default behavior in Lyx 2.0.x which automatically set your content between Frames as part of the

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Julio Rojas
Dear Jürgen Thanks for your answer. I suspected all the time that the reasons were the ones explained in that email. Now, I will go back to get used to the new/improved/simpler/optimized/standardized way with the slides for my courses. ;) Regards.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-05 19:14 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas: Thanks for your answer. I suspected all the time that the reasons were the ones explained in that email. Now, I will go back to get used to the new/improved/simpler/optimized/standardized way with the slides for my courses. ;) And please report back.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Julio Rojas
Actually is the separator what annoys me the most. Is there any way in which it is automatically inserted by the UI? I find myself doing copy-paste all the tame from the previous slide in order to add a CR, a separator, a new title and an indented line. Without the separator I would be doing a

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:58 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote: Actually is the separator what annoys me the most. Is there any way in which it is automatically inserted by the UI? I find myself doing copy-paste all the tame from the previous slide in order to add a CR, a separator, a

Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Julio Rojas
Dear developers, Why was it decided to force users to "indent" content inside a "Frame" environment in Lyx 2.1.0, instead of leaving the default behavior in Lyx 2.0.x which "automatically" set your content between "Frames" as part of the one on top? Was it to standardize it with all other

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-05 18:46 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas : > Dear developers, > > Why was it decided to force users to "indent" content inside a "Frame" > environment in Lyx 2.1.0, instead of leaving the default behavior in Lyx > 2.0.x which "automatically" set your content between "Frames"

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Julio Rojas
Dear Jürgen Thanks for your answer. I suspected all the time that the reasons were the ones explained in that email. Now, I will go back to get used to the new/improved/simpler/optimized/standardized way with the slides for my courses. ;) Regards.

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
2014-05-05 19:14 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas: > Thanks for your answer. I suspected all the time that the reasons were the > ones explained in that email. Now, I will go back to get used to the > new/improved/simpler/optimized/standardized way with the slides for my > courses. ;) > And please report

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Julio Rojas
Actually is the "separator" what annoys me the most. Is there any way in which it is "automatically" inserted by the UI? I find myself doing copy-paste all the tame from the previous slide in order to add a CR, a separator, a new title and an indented line. Without the separator I would be doing a

Re: Beamer in Lyx 2.1.0

2014-05-05 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:58 PM, Julio Rojas wrote: > Actually is the "separator" what annoys me the most. Is there any way in > which it is "automatically" inserted by the UI? I find myself doing > copy-paste all the tame from the previous slide in order to add a CR, a >