Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-24 Thread Ignacio García
Rudi Gaelzer rgaelzer at gmail.com writes:

 
 Ignacio, the best solution is to define a math macro: go to the beginning of 
 your text and click on  
 Insert - Math - Macro
 An ERT box will appear, where you can (re)define your macro.  In place of 
 \newmacroname type \sen.  In the TeX box type:
 \mathop \mathrm{sen}\nolimits
 In the LyX box simply type:
 \mathrm{sen}
 
 That's all, you'll be able to see the coveted sen symbol in instant preview 
 and the output (dvi, eps, pdf) will also be correctly rendered.
 
 I do that all the time with my texts in Portuguese for mathematical symbols 
 such as sen, senh, sech, cosech, cotan, cosec, etc.

Well, that's right, BUT _if the document language is Spanish_ none of that is
needed, since babel-spanish does it automatically for you.
You writes simply \sen (or senh, \tg...) inside the ecuation. That's all
you have to do. (The set of math predefined functions in Spanish is available in
the Spanish version of the manual Math, sec. 15.1) 
Thanks for your input

Ignacio



Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-24 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2012-05-24, Ignacio García wrote:
 Rudi Gaelzer rgaelzer at gmail.com writes:

 Ignacio, the best solution is to define a math macro:
...

 Well, that's right, BUT _if the document language is Spanish_ none of
 that is needed, since babel-spanish does it automatically for you. You
 writes simply \sen (or senh, \tg...) inside the ecuation. That's
 all you have to do. (The set of math predefined functions in Spanish is
 available in the Spanish version of the manual Math, sec. 15.1) 

However, if you want \sen to look like \sin in the LyX math box (without
instant preview), a dummy math-macro (i.e. in a comment, note or branch)
is your friend.

Günter



Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-24 Thread Ignacio García
Rudi Gaelzer rgaelzer at gmail.com writes:

 
 Ignacio, the best solution is to define a math macro: go to the beginning of 
 your text and click on  
 Insert - Math - Macro
 An ERT box will appear, where you can (re)define your macro.  In place of 
 \newmacroname type \sen.  In the TeX box type:
 \mathop \mathrm{sen}\nolimits
 In the LyX box simply type:
 \mathrm{sen}
 
 That's all, you'll be able to see the coveted sen symbol in instant preview 
 and the output (dvi, eps, pdf) will also be correctly rendered.
 
 I do that all the time with my texts in Portuguese for mathematical symbols 
 such as sen, senh, sech, cosech, cotan, cosec, etc.

Well, that's right, BUT _if the document language is Spanish_ none of that is
needed, since babel-spanish does it automatically for you.
You writes simply \sen (or senh, \tg...) inside the ecuation. That's all
you have to do. (The set of math predefined functions in Spanish is available in
the Spanish version of the manual Math, sec. 15.1) 
Thanks for your input

Ignacio



Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-24 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2012-05-24, Ignacio García wrote:
 Rudi Gaelzer rgaelzer at gmail.com writes:

 Ignacio, the best solution is to define a math macro:
...

 Well, that's right, BUT _if the document language is Spanish_ none of
 that is needed, since babel-spanish does it automatically for you. You
 writes simply \sen (or senh, \tg...) inside the ecuation. That's
 all you have to do. (The set of math predefined functions in Spanish is
 available in the Spanish version of the manual Math, sec. 15.1) 

However, if you want \sen to look like \sin in the LyX math box (without
instant preview), a dummy math-macro (i.e. in a comment, note or branch)
is your friend.

Günter



Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-24 Thread Ignacio García
Rudi Gaelzer  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> Ignacio, the best solution is to define a math macro: go to the beginning of 
> your text and click on  
> Insert -> Math -> Macro
> An ERT box will appear, where you can (re)define your macro.  In place of 
> \newmacroname type \sen.  In the TeX box type:
> \mathop \mathrm{sen}\nolimits
> In the LyX box simply type:
> \mathrm{sen}
> 
> That's all, you'll be able to see the coveted "sen" symbol in instant preview 
> and the output (dvi, eps, pdf) will also be correctly rendered.
> 
> I do that all the time with my texts in Portuguese for mathematical symbols 
> such as sen, senh, sech, cosech, cotan, cosec, etc.

Well, that's right, BUT _if the document language is Spanish_ none of that is
needed, since babel-spanish does it automatically for you.
You writes simply "\sen" (or "senh", "\tg"...) inside the ecuation. That's all
you have to do. (The set of math predefined functions in Spanish is available in
the Spanish version of the manual "Math", sec. 15.1) 
Thanks for your input

Ignacio



Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-24 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2012-05-24, Ignacio García wrote:
> Rudi Gaelzer  gmail.com> writes:

>> Ignacio, the best solution is to define a math macro:
...

> Well, that's right, BUT _if the document language is Spanish_ none of
> that is needed, since babel-spanish does it automatically for you. You
> writes simply "\sen" (or "senh", "\tg"...) inside the ecuation. That's
> all you have to do. (The set of math predefined functions in Spanish is
> available in the Spanish version of the manual "Math", sec. 15.1) 

However, if you want \sen to look like \sin in the LyX math box (without
instant preview), a "dummy" math-macro (i.e. in a comment, note or branch)
is your friend.

Günter



Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-23 Thread Rudi Gaelzer
Ignacio, the best solution is to define a math macro: go to the beginning of 
your text and click on  
Insert - Math - Macro
An ERT box will appear, where you can (re)define your macro.  In place of 
\newmacroname type \sen.  In the TeX box type:
\mathop \mathrm{sen}\nolimits
In the LyX box simply type:
\mathrm{sen}

That's all, you'll be able to see the coveted sen symbol in instant preview 
and the output (dvi, eps, pdf) will also be correctly rendered.

I do that all the time with my texts in Portuguese for mathematical symbols 
such as sen, senh, sech, cosech, cotan, cosec, etc.

If you want to use the macros in other docs, save them in, say, 
Spanish-macros.lyx and then simply do Insert - File - Child Document... to 
input (not include) the macros in any other doc.

On Saturday 19 May 2012 09:45:31 Julio Rojas wrote:
 What a bummer...
 
 One question. Shouldn't it be better that Lyx recognizes localization
 and instead of using \sin uses \sen? Is it even possible or
 desirably?
 
 The really good question is why, oh why, LaTeX doesn't do it
 automatically so Lyx has to do it only on-screen.
 
 Regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com
 
 
 On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Ignacio García
 
 ignacio.gmora...@gmail.com wrote:
  On fry 8 May 2012 Kenedy Torcatt wrote
  
  Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
  like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
  spanish, I mean sen.
  How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.
  
  Thankyou in advance.
  
  P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
  
  (in spanish).
  
  The function 'sen' is predefined in the latex package babel-spanish,
  so you write in math mode the command \sen and you get sen, that's all
  E.g., in math mode insert
  \sen space a
  
  
  and the output is
  sen a
  This command are not available in the math panels
  
  There is info about the functions predefined in Spanish (sen, arcsen,
  tg,...)
  in the section 15.1 of the spanish version manual 'Math' (Ecuaciones)
  
  
  
  I.G.
-- 
Rudi Gaelzer
Department of Physics
Institute of Physics and Mathematics
Federal University of Pelotas
BRAZIL
Registered linux user # 153741


Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-23 Thread Rudi Gaelzer
Ignacio, the best solution is to define a math macro: go to the beginning of 
your text and click on  
Insert - Math - Macro
An ERT box will appear, where you can (re)define your macro.  In place of 
\newmacroname type \sen.  In the TeX box type:
\mathop \mathrm{sen}\nolimits
In the LyX box simply type:
\mathrm{sen}

That's all, you'll be able to see the coveted sen symbol in instant preview 
and the output (dvi, eps, pdf) will also be correctly rendered.

I do that all the time with my texts in Portuguese for mathematical symbols 
such as sen, senh, sech, cosech, cotan, cosec, etc.

If you want to use the macros in other docs, save them in, say, 
Spanish-macros.lyx and then simply do Insert - File - Child Document... to 
input (not include) the macros in any other doc.

On Saturday 19 May 2012 09:45:31 Julio Rojas wrote:
 What a bummer...
 
 One question. Shouldn't it be better that Lyx recognizes localization
 and instead of using \sin uses \sen? Is it even possible or
 desirably?
 
 The really good question is why, oh why, LaTeX doesn't do it
 automatically so Lyx has to do it only on-screen.
 
 Regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com
 
 
 On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Ignacio García
 
 ignacio.gmora...@gmail.com wrote:
  On fry 8 May 2012 Kenedy Torcatt wrote
  
  Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
  like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
  spanish, I mean sen.
  How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.
  
  Thankyou in advance.
  
  P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
  
  (in spanish).
  
  The function 'sen' is predefined in the latex package babel-spanish,
  so you write in math mode the command \sen and you get sen, that's all
  E.g., in math mode insert
  \sen space a
  
  
  and the output is
  sen a
  This command are not available in the math panels
  
  There is info about the functions predefined in Spanish (sen, arcsen,
  tg,...)
  in the section 15.1 of the spanish version manual 'Math' (Ecuaciones)
  
  
  
  I.G.
-- 
Rudi Gaelzer
Department of Physics
Institute of Physics and Mathematics
Federal University of Pelotas
BRAZIL
Registered linux user # 153741


Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-23 Thread Rudi Gaelzer
Ignacio, the best solution is to define a math macro: go to the beginning of 
your text and click on  
Insert -> Math -> Macro
An ERT box will appear, where you can (re)define your macro.  In place of 
\newmacroname type \sen.  In the TeX box type:
\mathop \mathrm{sen}\nolimits
In the LyX box simply type:
\mathrm{sen}

That's all, you'll be able to see the coveted "sen" symbol in instant preview 
and the output (dvi, eps, pdf) will also be correctly rendered.

I do that all the time with my texts in Portuguese for mathematical symbols 
such as sen, senh, sech, cosech, cotan, cosec, etc.

If you want to use the macros in other docs, save them in, say, 
Spanish-macros.lyx and then simply do Insert -> File -> Child Document... to 
input (not include) the macros in any other doc.

On Saturday 19 May 2012 09:45:31 Julio Rojas wrote:
> What a bummer...
> 
> One question. Shouldn't it be better that Lyx recognizes localization
> and instead of using "\sin" uses "\sen"? Is it even possible or
> desirably?
> 
> The really good question is why, oh why, LaTeX doesn't do it
> automatically so Lyx has to do it only on-screen.
> 
> Regards.
> -
> Julio Rojas
> jcredbe...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Ignacio García
> 
>  wrote:
> > On fry 8 May 2012 Kenedy Torcatt wrote
> > 
> >> Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
> >> like sin are showing in english "sin". I need this math operators in
> >> spanish, I mean "sen".
> >> How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.
> >> 
> >> Thankyou in advance.
> >> 
> >> P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
> > 
> > (in spanish).
> > 
> > The function 'sen' is predefined in the latex package babel-spanish,
> > so you write in math mode the command \sen and you get sen, that's all
> > E.g., in math mode insert
> > \sen space a
> > 
> > 
> > and the output is
> > sen a
> > This command are not available in the math panels
> > 
> > There is info about the functions predefined in Spanish (sen, arcsen,
> > tg,...)
> > in the section 15.1 of the spanish version manual 'Math' (Ecuaciones)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I.G.
-- 
Rudi Gaelzer
Department of Physics
Institute of Physics and Mathematics
Federal University of Pelotas
BRAZIL
Registered linux user # 153741


Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-21 Thread Julio Rojas
Well Ignacio, If I create an Spanish document, and use \sin x, Lyx
(on screen) renders it as sin x. If I use \sen x, Lyx will render
it (again, on screen) as \sen x. What I would like is that by using
localization (Spanish), Lyx recognizes that \sin x should be
rendered as sen x. The thing is that I don't know if this a
desirable behavior.

Again, should LaTeX do it automatically? Meaning, in the PDF.

Regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com


On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Ignacio García
ignacio.gmora...@gmail.com wrote:


 2012/5/19 Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com

 What a bummer...

 One question. Shouldn't it be better that Lyx recognizes localization
 and instead of using \sin uses \sen? Is it even possible or
 desirably?


 The really good question is why, oh why, LaTeX doesn't do it
 automatically so Lyx has to do it only on-screen.

 Regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas


 Sorry, I do not understand... What do you mean?
 LyX doesn't show the function name sen in the math toolbar button,
 but otherwise, if the document language is Spanish you can use the latex
 command \sen right away, and then spanish-babel-latex makes the thing
 automatically: in the LyX window the sen is shown (if Instant Previw is
 on)
 and also in PDF output

 Ignacio García



 On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Ignacio García
 ignacio.gmora...@gmail.com wrote:
  On fry 8 May 2012 Kenedy Torcatt wrote
 
  Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
  like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
  spanish, I mean sen.
  How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.
 
  Thankyou in advance.
 
  P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
  (in spanish).
 
  The function 'sen' is predefined in the latex package babel-spanish,
  so you write in math mode the command \sen and you get sen, that's all
  E.g., in math mode insert
  \sen space a
 
 
  and the output is
  sen a
  This command are not available in the math panels
 
  There is info about the functions predefined in Spanish (sen, arcsen,
  tg,...)
  in the section 15.1 of the spanish version manual 'Math' (Ecuaciones)
 
 
 
  I.G.




Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-21 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2012-05-21, Julio Rojas wrote:
 Well Ignacio, If I create an Spanish document, and use \sin x, Lyx
 (on screen) renders it as sin x. If I use \sen x, Lyx will render
 it (again, on screen) as \sen x. What I would like is that by using
 localization (Spanish), Lyx recognizes that \sin x should be
 rendered as sen x. The thing is that I don't know if this a
 desirable behavior.

 Again, should LaTeX do it automatically? Meaning, in the PDF.

This depends.

If you have formulas that you use in both, English (or German) and
Spanish documents (vie file inclusion or drag and drop) and want the
localized function names in Spanish, it makes sense to re-define \sin
to be rendered as sen in the Spanish document.

If you only write in Spanish, it is a matter of personal taste whether to
write \sin or \sen in the source.

You can re-define \sin in the preamble:

  \renewcommand{\sin}{\sen}

With LyX, you can use math-macros to define Spanish function names that
render as sen (etc) in LyX also without instant preview.

Günter



Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-21 Thread Julio Rojas
Well Ignacio, If I create an Spanish document, and use \sin x, Lyx
(on screen) renders it as sin x. If I use \sen x, Lyx will render
it (again, on screen) as \sen x. What I would like is that by using
localization (Spanish), Lyx recognizes that \sin x should be
rendered as sen x. The thing is that I don't know if this a
desirable behavior.

Again, should LaTeX do it automatically? Meaning, in the PDF.

Regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com


On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Ignacio García
ignacio.gmora...@gmail.com wrote:


 2012/5/19 Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com

 What a bummer...

 One question. Shouldn't it be better that Lyx recognizes localization
 and instead of using \sin uses \sen? Is it even possible or
 desirably?


 The really good question is why, oh why, LaTeX doesn't do it
 automatically so Lyx has to do it only on-screen.

 Regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas


 Sorry, I do not understand... What do you mean?
 LyX doesn't show the function name sen in the math toolbar button,
 but otherwise, if the document language is Spanish you can use the latex
 command \sen right away, and then spanish-babel-latex makes the thing
 automatically: in the LyX window the sen is shown (if Instant Previw is
 on)
 and also in PDF output

 Ignacio García



 On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Ignacio García
 ignacio.gmora...@gmail.com wrote:
  On fry 8 May 2012 Kenedy Torcatt wrote
 
  Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
  like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
  spanish, I mean sen.
  How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.
 
  Thankyou in advance.
 
  P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
  (in spanish).
 
  The function 'sen' is predefined in the latex package babel-spanish,
  so you write in math mode the command \sen and you get sen, that's all
  E.g., in math mode insert
  \sen space a
 
 
  and the output is
  sen a
  This command are not available in the math panels
 
  There is info about the functions predefined in Spanish (sen, arcsen,
  tg,...)
  in the section 15.1 of the spanish version manual 'Math' (Ecuaciones)
 
 
 
  I.G.




Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-21 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2012-05-21, Julio Rojas wrote:
 Well Ignacio, If I create an Spanish document, and use \sin x, Lyx
 (on screen) renders it as sin x. If I use \sen x, Lyx will render
 it (again, on screen) as \sen x. What I would like is that by using
 localization (Spanish), Lyx recognizes that \sin x should be
 rendered as sen x. The thing is that I don't know if this a
 desirable behavior.

 Again, should LaTeX do it automatically? Meaning, in the PDF.

This depends.

If you have formulas that you use in both, English (or German) and
Spanish documents (vie file inclusion or drag and drop) and want the
localized function names in Spanish, it makes sense to re-define \sin
to be rendered as sen in the Spanish document.

If you only write in Spanish, it is a matter of personal taste whether to
write \sin or \sen in the source.

You can re-define \sin in the preamble:

  \renewcommand{\sin}{\sen}

With LyX, you can use math-macros to define Spanish function names that
render as sen (etc) in LyX also without instant preview.

Günter



Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-21 Thread Julio Rojas
Well Ignacio, If I create an Spanish document, and use "\sin x", Lyx
(on screen) renders it as "sin x". If I use "\sen x", Lyx will render
it (again, on screen) as "\sen x". What I would like is that by using
localization (Spanish), Lyx recognizes that "\sin x" should be
rendered as "sen x". The thing is that I don't know if this a
desirable behavior.

Again, should LaTeX do it automatically? Meaning, in the PDF.

Regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com


On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Ignacio García
 wrote:
>
>
> 2012/5/19 Julio Rojas 
>>
>> What a bummer...
>>
>> One question. Shouldn't it be better that Lyx recognizes localization
>> and instead of using "\sin" uses "\sen"? Is it even possible or
>> desirably?
>>
>>
>> The really good question is why, oh why, LaTeX doesn't do it
>> automatically so Lyx has to do it only on-screen.
>>
>> Regards.
>> -
>> Julio Rojas
>
>
> Sorry, I do not understand... What do you mean?
> LyX doesn't show the function name "sen" in the math toolbar button,
> but otherwise, if the document language is Spanish you can use the latex
> command "\sen" right away, and then spanish-babel-latex makes the thing
> automatically: in the LyX window the "sen" is shown (if Instant Previw is
> on)
> and also in PDF output
>
> Ignacio García
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Ignacio García
>>  wrote:
>> > On fry 8 May 2012 Kenedy Torcatt wrote
>> >
>> >> Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
>> >> like sin are showing in english "sin". I need this math operators in
>> >> spanish, I mean "sen".
>> >> How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.
>> >
>> >> Thankyou in advance.
>> >
>> >> P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
>> > (in spanish).
>> >
>> > The function 'sen' is predefined in the latex package babel-spanish,
>> > so you write in math mode the command \sen and you get sen, that's all
>> > E.g., in math mode insert
>> > \sen space a
>> >
>> >
>> > and the output is
>> > sen a
>> > This command are not available in the math panels
>> >
>> > There is info about the functions predefined in Spanish (sen, arcsen,
>> > tg,...)
>> > in the section 15.1 of the spanish version manual 'Math' (Ecuaciones)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I.G.
>
>


Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-21 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2012-05-21, Julio Rojas wrote:
> Well Ignacio, If I create an Spanish document, and use "\sin x", Lyx
> (on screen) renders it as "sin x". If I use "\sen x", Lyx will render
> it (again, on screen) as "\sen x". What I would like is that by using
> localization (Spanish), Lyx recognizes that "\sin x" should be
> rendered as "sen x". The thing is that I don't know if this a
> desirable behavior.

> Again, should LaTeX do it automatically? Meaning, in the PDF.

This depends.

If you have formulas that you use in both, English (or German) and
Spanish documents (vie file inclusion or drag and drop) and want the
"localized" function names in Spanish, it makes sense to re-define \sin
to be rendered as "sen" in the Spanish document.

If you only write in Spanish, it is a matter of personal taste whether to
write \sin or \sen in the source.

You can re-define \sin in the preamble:

  \renewcommand{\sin}{\sen}

With LyX, you can use math-macros to define Spanish function names that
render as sen (etc) in LyX also without instant preview.

Günter



Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-19 Thread Ignacio García
On fry 8 May 2012 Kenedy Torcatt wrote
 Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
 like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
 spanish, I mean sen.
 How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.

 Thankyou in advance.

 P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
(in spanish).

The function 'sen' is predefined in the latex package babel-spanish,
so you write in math mode the command \sen and you get sen, that's all
E.g., in math mode insert
\sen space a

and the output is
sen a
This command are not available in the math panels

There is info about the functions predefined in Spanish (sen, arcsen, tg,...)
in the section 15.1 of the spanish version manual 'Math' (Ecuaciones)

I.G.


Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-19 Thread Julio Rojas
What a bummer...

One question. Shouldn't it be better that Lyx recognizes localization
and instead of using \sin uses \sen? Is it even possible or
desirably?

The really good question is why, oh why, LaTeX doesn't do it
automatically so Lyx has to do it only on-screen.

Regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com


On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Ignacio García
ignacio.gmora...@gmail.com wrote:
 On fry 8 May 2012 Kenedy Torcatt wrote

 Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
 like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
 spanish, I mean sen.
 How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.

 Thankyou in advance.

 P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
 (in spanish).

 The function 'sen' is predefined in the latex package babel-spanish,
 so you write in math mode the command \sen and you get sen, that's all
 E.g., in math mode insert
 \sen space a


 and the output is
 sen a
 This command are not available in the math panels

 There is info about the functions predefined in Spanish (sen, arcsen,
 tg,...)
 in the section 15.1 of the spanish version manual 'Math' (Ecuaciones)



 I.G.


Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-19 Thread Ignacio García
2012/5/19 Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com

 What a bummer...

 One question. Shouldn't it be better that Lyx recognizes localization
 and instead of using \sin uses \sen? Is it even possible or
 desirably?


 The really good question is why, oh why, LaTeX doesn't do it
 automatically so Lyx has to do it only on-screen.

 Regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas


Sorry, I do not understand... What do you mean?
LyX doesn't show the function name sen in the math toolbar button,
but otherwise, if the document language is Spanish you can use the latex
command \sen right away, and then spanish-babel-latex makes the thing
automatically: in the LyX window the sen is shown (if Instant Previw is
on)
and also in PDF output

Ignacio García



 On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Ignacio García
 ignacio.gmora...@gmail.com wrote:
  On fry 8 May 2012 Kenedy Torcatt wrote
 
  Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
  like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
  spanish, I mean sen.
  How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.
 
  Thankyou in advance.
 
  P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
  (in spanish).
 
  The function 'sen' is predefined in the latex package babel-spanish,
  so you write in math mode the command \sen and you get sen, that's all
  E.g., in math mode insert
  \sen space a
 
 
  and the output is
  sen a
  This command are not available in the math panels
 
  There is info about the functions predefined in Spanish (sen, arcsen,
  tg,...)
  in the section 15.1 of the spanish version manual 'Math' (Ecuaciones)
 
 
 
  I.G.



Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-19 Thread Ignacio García
On fry 8 May 2012 Kenedy Torcatt wrote
 Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
 like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
 spanish, I mean sen.
 How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.

 Thankyou in advance.

 P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
(in spanish).

The function 'sen' is predefined in the latex package babel-spanish,
so you write in math mode the command \sen and you get sen, that's all
E.g., in math mode insert
\sen space a

and the output is
sen a
This command are not available in the math panels

There is info about the functions predefined in Spanish (sen, arcsen, tg,...)
in the section 15.1 of the spanish version manual 'Math' (Ecuaciones)

I.G.


Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-19 Thread Julio Rojas
What a bummer...

One question. Shouldn't it be better that Lyx recognizes localization
and instead of using \sin uses \sen? Is it even possible or
desirably?

The really good question is why, oh why, LaTeX doesn't do it
automatically so Lyx has to do it only on-screen.

Regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com


On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Ignacio García
ignacio.gmora...@gmail.com wrote:
 On fry 8 May 2012 Kenedy Torcatt wrote

 Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
 like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
 spanish, I mean sen.
 How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.

 Thankyou in advance.

 P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
 (in spanish).

 The function 'sen' is predefined in the latex package babel-spanish,
 so you write in math mode the command \sen and you get sen, that's all
 E.g., in math mode insert
 \sen space a


 and the output is
 sen a
 This command are not available in the math panels

 There is info about the functions predefined in Spanish (sen, arcsen,
 tg,...)
 in the section 15.1 of the spanish version manual 'Math' (Ecuaciones)



 I.G.


Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-19 Thread Ignacio García
2012/5/19 Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com

 What a bummer...

 One question. Shouldn't it be better that Lyx recognizes localization
 and instead of using \sin uses \sen? Is it even possible or
 desirably?


 The really good question is why, oh why, LaTeX doesn't do it
 automatically so Lyx has to do it only on-screen.

 Regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas


Sorry, I do not understand... What do you mean?
LyX doesn't show the function name sen in the math toolbar button,
but otherwise, if the document language is Spanish you can use the latex
command \sen right away, and then spanish-babel-latex makes the thing
automatically: in the LyX window the sen is shown (if Instant Previw is
on)
and also in PDF output

Ignacio García



 On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Ignacio García
 ignacio.gmora...@gmail.com wrote:
  On fry 8 May 2012 Kenedy Torcatt wrote
 
  Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
  like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
  spanish, I mean sen.
  How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.
 
  Thankyou in advance.
 
  P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
  (in spanish).
 
  The function 'sen' is predefined in the latex package babel-spanish,
  so you write in math mode the command \sen and you get sen, that's all
  E.g., in math mode insert
  \sen space a
 
 
  and the output is
  sen a
  This command are not available in the math panels
 
  There is info about the functions predefined in Spanish (sen, arcsen,
  tg,...)
  in the section 15.1 of the spanish version manual 'Math' (Ecuaciones)
 
 
 
  I.G.



Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-19 Thread Ignacio García
On fry 8 May 2012 Kenedy Torcatt wrote
> Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
> like sin are showing in english "sin". I need this math operators in
> spanish, I mean "sen".
> How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.

> Thankyou in advance.

> P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
(in spanish).

The function 'sen' is predefined in the latex package babel-spanish,
so you write in math mode the command \sen and you get sen, that's all
E.g., in math mode insert
\sen space a

and the output is
sen a
This command are not available in the math panels

There is info about the functions predefined in Spanish (sen, arcsen, tg,...)
in the section 15.1 of the spanish version manual 'Math' (Ecuaciones)

I.G.


Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-19 Thread Julio Rojas
What a bummer...

One question. Shouldn't it be better that Lyx recognizes localization
and instead of using "\sin" uses "\sen"? Is it even possible or
desirably?

The really good question is why, oh why, LaTeX doesn't do it
automatically so Lyx has to do it only on-screen.

Regards.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com


On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Ignacio García
 wrote:
> On fry 8 May 2012 Kenedy Torcatt wrote
>
>> Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
>> like sin are showing in english "sin". I need this math operators in
>> spanish, I mean "sen".
>> How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.
>
>> Thankyou in advance.
>
>> P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
> (in spanish).
>
> The function 'sen' is predefined in the latex package babel-spanish,
> so you write in math mode the command \sen and you get sen, that's all
> E.g., in math mode insert
> \sen space a
>
>
> and the output is
> sen a
> This command are not available in the math panels
>
> There is info about the functions predefined in Spanish (sen, arcsen,
> tg,...)
> in the section 15.1 of the spanish version manual 'Math' (Ecuaciones)
>
>
>
> I.G.


Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-19 Thread Ignacio García
2012/5/19 Julio Rojas 

> What a bummer...
>
> One question. Shouldn't it be better that Lyx recognizes localization
> and instead of using "\sin" uses "\sen"? Is it even possible or
> desirably?
>

> The really good question is why, oh why, LaTeX doesn't do it
> automatically so Lyx has to do it only on-screen.
>
> Regards.
> -
> Julio Rojas
>

Sorry, I do not understand... What do you mean?
LyX doesn't show the function name "sen" in the math toolbar button,
but otherwise, if the document language is Spanish you can use the latex
command "\sen" right away, and then spanish-babel-latex makes the thing
automatically: in the LyX window the "sen" is shown (if Instant Previw is
on)
and also in PDF output

Ignacio García


>
> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Ignacio García
>  wrote:
> > On fry 8 May 2012 Kenedy Torcatt wrote
> >
> >> Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
> >> like sin are showing in english "sin". I need this math operators in
> >> spanish, I mean "sen".
> >> How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.
> >
> >> Thankyou in advance.
> >
> >> P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
> > (in spanish).
> >
> > The function 'sen' is predefined in the latex package babel-spanish,
> > so you write in math mode the command \sen and you get sen, that's all
> > E.g., in math mode insert
> > \sen space a
> >
> >
> > and the output is
> > sen a
> > This command are not available in the math panels
> >
> > There is info about the functions predefined in Spanish (sen, arcsen,
> > tg,...)
> > in the section 15.1 of the spanish version manual 'Math' (Ecuaciones)
> >
> >
> >
> > I.G.
>


Change math Language - critical

2012-05-18 Thread Kenedy Torcatt
Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
spanish, I mean sen.
How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.

Thankyou in advance.

P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
(in spanish).

--
Kenedy Torcatt


RE: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-18 Thread Scott Kostyshak
From: Kenedy Torcatt [yde...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 3:30 AM

Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
spanish, I mean sen.
How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.

Put this in your preamble:

\DeclareMathOperator*{\espsin}{sen}

(also make sure that you are using the amsmath package)
Then when you want to input sen in your math inset just put \espsin. Note 
that you can choose the name espsin.

Scott

Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-18 Thread David L. Johnson

On 05/18/2012 03:30 AM, Kenedy Torcatt wrote:

Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
spanish, I mean sen.


Hmm.  TeX itself does not seem to recognize $\sen(x)$ -- at least mine 
doesn't.  I've read some Spanish math papers, and have not seen that 
name for that function.  You could define a macro giving an (upright)  
sen(x) which would function as well as $\sin(x)$.  How many different 
names are involved?  What do you call $\log(x)$ in Spanish?


--

David L. Johnson

If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a
conclusion.
-- George Bernard Shaw



Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-18 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2012-05-18, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 From: Kenedy Torcatt [yde...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 3:30 AM

Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
spanish, I mean sen.
How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.

 Put this in your preamble:

 \DeclareMathOperator*{\espsin}{sen}

 (also make sure that you are using the amsmath package) Then when you
 want to input sen in your math inset just put \espsin. Note that you
 can choose the name espsin.

E.g. I would use the name \sen for the macro: in the preamble

  \DeclareMathOperator*{\sen}{sen}
  
and in LyX  f(x) = \sen(x).

If you do not like the red \sen in the math box, you can also define a 
dummy math macro (in an inactive branch or a comment).

Günter



Change math Language - critical

2012-05-18 Thread Kenedy Torcatt
Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
spanish, I mean sen.
How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.

Thankyou in advance.

P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
(in spanish).

--
Kenedy Torcatt


RE: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-18 Thread Scott Kostyshak
From: Kenedy Torcatt [yde...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 3:30 AM

Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
spanish, I mean sen.
How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.

Put this in your preamble:

\DeclareMathOperator*{\espsin}{sen}

(also make sure that you are using the amsmath package)
Then when you want to input sen in your math inset just put \espsin. Note 
that you can choose the name espsin.

Scott

Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-18 Thread David L. Johnson

On 05/18/2012 03:30 AM, Kenedy Torcatt wrote:

Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
spanish, I mean sen.


Hmm.  TeX itself does not seem to recognize $\sen(x)$ -- at least mine 
doesn't.  I've read some Spanish math papers, and have not seen that 
name for that function.  You could define a macro giving an (upright)  
sen(x) which would function as well as $\sin(x)$.  How many different 
names are involved?  What do you call $\log(x)$ in Spanish?


--

David L. Johnson

If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a
conclusion.
-- George Bernard Shaw



Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-18 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2012-05-18, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
 From: Kenedy Torcatt [yde...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 3:30 AM

Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
like sin are showing in english sin. I need this math operators in
spanish, I mean sen.
How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.

 Put this in your preamble:

 \DeclareMathOperator*{\espsin}{sen}

 (also make sure that you are using the amsmath package) Then when you
 want to input sen in your math inset just put \espsin. Note that you
 can choose the name espsin.

E.g. I would use the name \sen for the macro: in the preamble

  \DeclareMathOperator*{\sen}{sen}
  
and in LyX  f(x) = \sen(x).

If you do not like the red \sen in the math box, you can also define a 
dummy math macro (in an inactive branch or a comment).

Günter



Change math Language - critical

2012-05-18 Thread Kenedy Torcatt
Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
like sin are showing in english "sin". I need this math operators in
spanish, I mean "sen".
How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.

Thankyou in advance.

P.S: I already set the language in spanish, everything else is fine
(in spanish).

--
Kenedy Torcatt


RE: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-18 Thread Scott Kostyshak
From: Kenedy Torcatt [yde...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 3:30 AM

>Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
>like sin are showing in english "sin". I need this math operators in
>spanish, I mean "sen".
>How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.

Put this in your preamble:

\DeclareMathOperator*{\espsin}{sen}

(also make sure that you are using the amsmath package)
Then when you want to input "sen" in your math inset just put \espsin. Note 
that you can choose the name "espsin".

Scott

Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-18 Thread David L. Johnson

On 05/18/2012 03:30 AM, Kenedy Torcatt wrote:

Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
like sin are showing in english "sin". I need this math operators in
spanish, I mean "sen".


Hmm.  TeX itself does not seem to recognize $\sen(x)$ -- at least mine 
doesn't.  I've read some Spanish math papers, and have not seen that 
name for that function.  You could define a macro giving an (upright)  
sen(x) which would function as well as $\sin(x)$.  How many different 
names are involved?  What do you call $\log(x)$ in Spanish?


--

David L. Johnson

If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a
conclusion.
-- George Bernard Shaw



Re: Change math Language - critical

2012-05-18 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2012-05-18, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> From: Kenedy Torcatt [yde...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 3:30 AM

>>Hey guys... I'm working with lyx in spanish, The mathematical operator
>>like sin are showing in english "sin". I need this math operators in
>>spanish, I mean "sen".
>>How can I do this with lyx? I'm using latest version 2.0.3.

> Put this in your preamble:

> \DeclareMathOperator*{\espsin}{sen}

> (also make sure that you are using the amsmath package) Then when you
> want to input "sen" in your math inset just put \espsin. Note that you
> can choose the name "espsin".

E.g. I would use the name \sen for the macro: in the preamble

  \DeclareMathOperator*{\sen}{sen}
  
and in LyX  f(x) = \sen(x).

If you do not like the red \sen in the math box, you can also define a 
dummy math macro (in an inactive branch or a comment).

Günter