Re: Conversion to OpenOffice error

2007-12-20 Thread Hellmut Weber

Hi Les,

Les Denham schrieb:

On Wednesday 19 December 2007, Hellmut Weber wrote:

Hi,
as far as I know are ligatures (ff, ft, ...) special glyphs, i.e. the
two letters are represented by ONE symbol which (surprise?) is not
recognized by text processing software.
... and maybe cannot be recognized when working with copy + paste.

IMHO to recognize them should be a feature of programs like acroread
when marking and exportiung a region.

Is there any program known to offer a feature of this kind?

This raises a question: oolatex operates on the LaTeX output from LyX, and I 
would have assumed that the conversion of ASCII text to ligatures (where 
applicable) would normally take place when the LaTeX file is processed, not 
when it is generated by LyX. Does LyX introduce ligatures in the LaTeX file?  
I think it is as you describe it. Ligatures are created by tex, latex 
when processing the ascii text file.
LyX as far as I know has nothing to do with them. (Although this could 
be a feature of high quality rendering, but I wouldn't care much for that.)


If it doesn't, the problem is with oolatex or tex4ht (which is called by 
oolatex).


I haven't been able to find any reference to a problem like this.  Many people 
Don't wonder, the Art of Typography has been damaged greatly by the 
WYSIWYG ideology and the influence of the monopolist.


have trouble with oolatex -- but usually it either produces no output, or it 
generates a .sxw file which OOo cannot open.




Best regards

Hellmut

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Re: Conversion to OpenOffice error

2007-12-20 Thread Hellmut Weber

Hi Les,

Les Denham schrieb:

On Wednesday 19 December 2007, Hellmut Weber wrote:

Hi,
as far as I know are ligatures (ff, ft, ...) special glyphs, i.e. the
two letters are represented by ONE symbol which (surprise?) is not
recognized by text processing software.
... and maybe cannot be recognized when working with copy + paste.

IMHO to recognize them should be a feature of programs like acroread
when marking and exportiung a region.

Is there any program known to offer a feature of this kind?

This raises a question: oolatex operates on the LaTeX output from LyX, and I 
would have assumed that the conversion of ASCII text to ligatures (where 
applicable) would normally take place when the LaTeX file is processed, not 
when it is generated by LyX. Does LyX introduce ligatures in the LaTeX file?  
I think it is as you describe it. Ligatures are created by tex, latex 
when processing the ascii text file.
LyX as far as I know has nothing to do with them. (Although this could 
be a feature of high quality rendering, but I wouldn't care much for that.)


If it doesn't, the problem is with oolatex or tex4ht (which is called by 
oolatex).


I haven't been able to find any reference to a problem like this.  Many people 
Don't wonder, the Art of Typography has been damaged greatly by the 
WYSIWYG ideology and the influence of the monopolist.


have trouble with oolatex -- but usually it either produces no output, or it 
generates a .sxw file which OOo cannot open.




Best regards

Hellmut

--
Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Degenfeldstraße 2 tel   +49-89-3081172
D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321
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Re: Conversion to OpenOffice error

2007-12-20 Thread Hellmut Weber

Hi Les,

Les Denham schrieb:

On Wednesday 19 December 2007, Hellmut Weber wrote:

Hi,
as far as I know are ligatures (ff, ft, ...) special glyphs, i.e. the
two letters are represented by ONE symbol which (surprise?) is not
recognized by text processing software.
... and maybe cannot be recognized when working with copy + paste.

IMHO to recognize them should be a feature of programs like acroread
when marking and exportiung a region.

Is there any program known to offer a feature of this kind?

This raises a question: oolatex operates on the LaTeX output from LyX, and I 
would have assumed that the conversion of ASCII text to ligatures (where 
applicable) would normally take place when the LaTeX file is processed, not 
when it is generated by LyX. Does LyX introduce ligatures in the LaTeX file?  
I think it is as you describe it. Ligatures are created by tex, latex 
when processing the ascii text file.
LyX as far as I know has nothing to do with them. (Although this could 
be a feature of high quality rendering, but I wouldn't care much for that.)


If it doesn't, the problem is with oolatex or tex4ht (which is called by 
oolatex).


I haven't been able to find any reference to a problem like this.  Many people 
Don't wonder, the Art of Typography has been damaged greatly by the 
WYSIWYG ideology and the influence of the monopolist.


have trouble with oolatex -- but usually it either produces no output, or it 
generates a .sxw file which OOo cannot open.




Best regards

Hellmut

--
Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Degenfeldstraße 2 tel   +49-89-3081172
D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321
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Re: Conversion to OpenOffice error

2007-12-19 Thread Hellmut Weber

Hi,
as far as I know are ligatures (ff, ft, ...) special glyphs, i.e. the 
two letters are represented by ONE symbol which (surprise?) is not 
recognized by text processing software.

... and maybe cannot be recognized when working with copy + paste.

IMHO to recognize them should be a feature of programs like acroread 
when marking and exportiung a region.


Is there any program known to offer a feature of this kind?

Cheers

Hellmut

Les Denham schrieb:

On Tuesday 18 December 2007, Jia 'Colin' Zheng wrote:

How did you convert it, by copy and paste or export to plain text?
I've no clue how ligature affects the conversion, unless it was converted
from dvi or ps or pdf format.


I did the conversion using the File-Export-OpenOffice.org Writer function in 
LyX, which uses oolatex.  I too have no clue as to how the ligature (which 
appears to be the problem) affects the conversion.  But the error is quite 
repeatable.




--
Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Degenfeldstraße 2 tel   +49-89-3081172
D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321
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Re: Conversion to OpenOffice error

2007-12-19 Thread Hellmut Weber

Hi,
as far as I know are ligatures (ff, ft, ...) special glyphs, i.e. the 
two letters are represented by ONE symbol which (surprise?) is not 
recognized by text processing software.

... and maybe cannot be recognized when working with copy + paste.

IMHO to recognize them should be a feature of programs like acroread 
when marking and exportiung a region.


Is there any program known to offer a feature of this kind?

Cheers

Hellmut

Les Denham schrieb:

On Tuesday 18 December 2007, Jia 'Colin' Zheng wrote:

How did you convert it, by copy and paste or export to plain text?
I've no clue how ligature affects the conversion, unless it was converted
from dvi or ps or pdf format.


I did the conversion using the File-Export-OpenOffice.org Writer function in 
LyX, which uses oolatex.  I too have no clue as to how the ligature (which 
appears to be the problem) affects the conversion.  But the error is quite 
repeatable.




--
Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Degenfeldstraße 2 tel   +49-89-3081172
D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321
please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq



Re: Conversion to OpenOffice error

2007-12-19 Thread Hellmut Weber

Hi,
as far as I know are ligatures (ff, ft, ...) special glyphs, i.e. the 
two letters are represented by ONE symbol which (surprise?) is not 
recognized by text processing software.

... and maybe cannot be recognized when working with copy + paste.

IMHO to recognize them should be a feature of programs like acroread 
when marking and exportiung a region.


Is there any program known to offer a feature of this kind?

Cheers

Hellmut

Les Denham schrieb:

On Tuesday 18 December 2007, Jia 'Colin' Zheng wrote:

How did you convert it, by copy and paste or export to plain text?
I've no clue how ligature affects the conversion, unless it was converted
from dvi or ps or pdf format.


I did the conversion using the File->Export->OpenOffice.org Writer function in 
LyX, which uses oolatex.  I too have no clue as to how the ligature (which 
appears to be the problem) affects the conversion.  But the error is quite 
repeatable.




--
Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Degenfeldstraße 2 tel   +49-89-3081172
D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321
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Re: Conversion to OpenOffice error

2007-12-18 Thread Jia 'Colin' Zheng
How did you convert it, by copy and paste or export to plain text?
I've no clue how ligature affects the conversion, unless it was converted
from dvi or ps or pdf format.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 05:33:25PM -0600, Les Denham wrote:
 When I convert from LyX to OpenOffice.org writer, I get the following type of 
 error:
 
 LyX (1.4.2 on Linux):
  1. The benefits of this document offer a few problems.
 
 OpenOffice.org (2.1 on Linux):
  The beneøts of this document ooeer a few problems.
 
 My LyX document uses Article(koma-script) and Font newcent.
 
 Has anyone else run across this kind of problem?  I suspect it is a problem 
 with fonts -- the errors occur with fi, ff and a few other uncommon 
 letter combinations.
 -- 
 Les
 
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Re: Conversion to OpenOffice error

2007-12-18 Thread Les Denham
On Tuesday 18 December 2007, Jia 'Colin' Zheng wrote:
 How did you convert it, by copy and paste or export to plain text?
 I've no clue how ligature affects the conversion, unless it was converted
 from dvi or ps or pdf format.

I did the conversion using the File-Export-OpenOffice.org Writer function in 
LyX, which uses oolatex.  I too have no clue as to how the ligature (which 
appears to be the problem) affects the conversion.  But the error is quite 
repeatable.

-- 
Les

~~
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Re: Conversion to OpenOffice error

2007-12-18 Thread Jia 'Colin' Zheng
How did you convert it, by copy and paste or export to plain text?
I've no clue how ligature affects the conversion, unless it was converted
from dvi or ps or pdf format.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 05:33:25PM -0600, Les Denham wrote:
 When I convert from LyX to OpenOffice.org writer, I get the following type of 
 error:
 
 LyX (1.4.2 on Linux):
  1. The benefits of this document offer a few problems.
 
 OpenOffice.org (2.1 on Linux):
  The beneøts of this document ooeer a few problems.
 
 My LyX document uses Article(koma-script) and Font newcent.
 
 Has anyone else run across this kind of problem?  I suspect it is a problem 
 with fonts -- the errors occur with fi, ff and a few other uncommon 
 letter combinations.
 -- 
 Les
 
 ~~
 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
 See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
 



Re: Conversion to OpenOffice error

2007-12-18 Thread Les Denham
On Tuesday 18 December 2007, Jia 'Colin' Zheng wrote:
 How did you convert it, by copy and paste or export to plain text?
 I've no clue how ligature affects the conversion, unless it was converted
 from dvi or ps or pdf format.

I did the conversion using the File-Export-OpenOffice.org Writer function in 
LyX, which uses oolatex.  I too have no clue as to how the ligature (which 
appears to be the problem) affects the conversion.  But the error is quite 
repeatable.

-- 
Les

~~
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html


Re: Conversion to OpenOffice error

2007-12-18 Thread Jia 'Colin' Zheng
How did you convert it, by copy and paste or export to plain text?
I've no clue how ligature affects the conversion, unless it was converted
from dvi or ps or pdf format.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 05:33:25PM -0600, Les Denham wrote:
> When I convert from LyX to OpenOffice.org writer, I get the following type of 
> error:
> 
> LyX (1.4.2 on Linux):
>  1. The benefits of this document offer a few problems.
> 
> OpenOffice.org (2.1 on Linux):
>  The beneøts of this document ooeer a few problems.
> 
> My LyX document uses Article(koma-script) and Font newcent.
> 
> Has anyone else run across this kind of problem?  I suspect it is a problem 
> with fonts -- the errors occur with "fi", "ff" and a few other uncommon 
> letter combinations.
> -- 
> Les
> 
> ~~
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> 



Re: Conversion to OpenOffice error

2007-12-18 Thread Les Denham
On Tuesday 18 December 2007, Jia 'Colin' Zheng wrote:
> How did you convert it, by copy and paste or export to plain text?
> I've no clue how ligature affects the conversion, unless it was converted
> from dvi or ps or pdf format.

I did the conversion using the File->Export->OpenOffice.org Writer function in 
LyX, which uses oolatex.  I too have no clue as to how the ligature (which 
appears to be the problem) affects the conversion.  But the error is quite 
repeatable.

-- 
Les

~~
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Conversion to OpenOffice error

2007-12-17 Thread Les Denham
When I convert from LyX to OpenOffice.org writer, I get the following type of 
error:

LyX (1.4.2 on Linux):
 1. The benefits of this document offer a few problems.

OpenOffice.org (2.1 on Linux):
 The beneøts of this document ooeer a few problems.

My LyX document uses Article(koma-script) and Font newcent.

Has anyone else run across this kind of problem?  I suspect it is a problem 
with fonts -- the errors occur with fi, ff and a few other uncommon 
letter combinations.
-- 
Les

~~
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html


Conversion to OpenOffice error

2007-12-17 Thread Les Denham
When I convert from LyX to OpenOffice.org writer, I get the following type of 
error:

LyX (1.4.2 on Linux):
 1. The benefits of this document offer a few problems.

OpenOffice.org (2.1 on Linux):
 The beneøts of this document ooeer a few problems.

My LyX document uses Article(koma-script) and Font newcent.

Has anyone else run across this kind of problem?  I suspect it is a problem 
with fonts -- the errors occur with fi, ff and a few other uncommon 
letter combinations.
-- 
Les

~~
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html


Conversion to OpenOffice error

2007-12-17 Thread Les Denham
When I convert from LyX to OpenOffice.org writer, I get the following type of 
error:

LyX (1.4.2 on Linux):
 1. The benefits of this document offer a few problems.

OpenOffice.org (2.1 on Linux):
 The beneøts of this document ooeer a few problems.

My LyX document uses Article(koma-script) and Font newcent.

Has anyone else run across this kind of problem?  I suspect it is a problem 
with fonts -- the errors occur with "fi", "ff" and a few other uncommon 
letter combinations.
-- 
Les

~~
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html