Re: Custom layout inset without arguments
On 21/04/2020 8:47 am, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: On 4/19/20 2:23 PM, Gaston Gloesener wrote: Riki wrote: >This is bug #4066: https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4066. There's at least some intention to try to figure it out before 2.4.0. For now, the workaround you mention is the only one available. > >Riki Thank you for this pointer. I am a bit scared by this bug report having 13 years and last update being 12 months ago, but let’s stay positive it will happen I filed the report, too, and have always meant to do something about it. Really, that bug is more general, since the idea was for it to be possible to declare various options, as well, so the command could in effect have arguments (the way the label command does, e.g.). Andrew wrote: >But you can eliminate the red box from showing by closing the inset (click on the inset label to toggle open/closed). Thanks for this workaround. I did actually notice this shortly after sending my email and must admit that it is already a big progress that I can at least get rid of the annoying red box. Would it be enough here if we could just have a "no text box" option? This would basically be a form of Decoration. Riki For appearance in LyX this would be helpful, but if the associated latex command has an empty argument attached that might be confusing, for example if using the latex command in an ert inset where you will need to remember that it is not just the command that is required but also a following empty argument (otherwise the next token in the ert inset is going to be gobbled). Andrew -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Custom layout inset without arguments
On 4/19/20 2:23 PM, Gaston Gloesener wrote: > > Riki wrote: > > >This is bug #4066: https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4066. There's at > least some intention to try to figure it out before 2.4.0. For now, > the workaround you mention is the only one available. > > > > > >Riki > > > > Thank you for this pointer. I am a bit scared by this bug report > having 13 years and last update being 12 months ago, but let’s stay > positive it will happen > I filed the report, too, and have always meant to do something about it. Really, that bug is more general, since the idea was for it to be possible to declare various options, as well, so the command could in effect have arguments (the way the label command does, e.g.). > Andrew wrote: > > > > >But you can eliminate the red box from showing by closing the inset > (click on the inset label to toggle open/closed). > > > > Thanks for this workaround. I did actually notice this shortly after > sending my email and must admit that it is already a big progress that > I can at least get rid of the annoying red box. > Would it be enough here if we could just have a "no text box" option? This would basically be a form of Decoration. Riki -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Custom layout inset without arguments
Le 19/04/2020 à 20:23, Gaston Gloesener a écrit : Riki wrote: >This is bug #4066: https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4066. There's at least some intention to try to figure it out before 2.4.0. For now, the workaround you mention is the only one available. > >Riki Thank you for this pointer. I am a bit scared by this bug report having 13 years and last update being 12 months ago, but let’s stay positive it will happen Sure, stay positive, I recently fixed this one: https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4451 More generally, 15 bugs older than yours will be fixed in 2.4.0 :) https://www.lyx.org/trac/query?status=fixed=2.4.0=fixedinmaster=0=id=summary=severity=component=keywords=id JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
RE: Custom layout inset without arguments
Riki wrote:
>This is bug #4066: https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4066. There's at least some
>intention to try to figure it out before 2.4.0. For now, the workaround you
>mention is the only one available.
>
>Riki
Thank you for this pointer. I am a bit scared by this bug report having 13
years and last update being 12 months ago, but let’s stay positive it will
happen
Andrew wrote:
>But you can eliminate the red box from showing by closing the inset (click on
>the inset label to toggle open/closed).
Thanks for this workaround. I did actually notice this shortly after sending my
email and must admit that it is already a big progress that I can at least get
rid of the annoying red box.
>Alternatively, there is a hybrid Latex/LyX solution, that avoids going to the
>menu to insert custom insets and uses keyboard shortcuts instead.
>1. Ensure instant preview is On (Tools > Preferences > Look & Feel >
>Display)
>2. Assign a keyboard shortcut to preview-insert (Tools > Preferences > Editing
>> Shortcuts > Cursor, Mouse and Editing Functions). Now that printing directly
>from LyX is no longer supported the shortcut Ctrl+P is available.
>3. Enter in the preamble (Document > Settings > Latex Preamble)
> \newcommand*{\projectName}{ My Project Name }
> and click OK.
>
>To enter the project name in the document,
>4. insert a preview inset (Ctrl+P)
>5. insert an ert inset (Ctrl+L) inside the preview inset. On a QWERTY
>keyboard, the P and L? keys are diagonal neighbours so steps 4 & 5 involve
>holding the ctrl key down and tapping P and L in quick succession.
>6. enter \projectName in the ert inset
>7. move the cursor outside the insets. The preview does its magic and the
>project name is shown.
Thanks for this workaround. I will give it a try but I fear that keyboard
shortcuts will not be an option in my case because I will risk to have quite a
number of such “name” macros.
Thanks to both of you, very much appreciated!
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I am looking for an archaic Greek font. (Not sure it is the right forum...)
I downloaded one from MiKTeX (https://ctan.org/pkg/greek6cbc) and the whole
archaic bundle, but I cannot get it to work -- maybe incompatible with Unicode?
Any alternative suggestions are welcome!
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Re: Custom layout inset without arguments
On 19/04/2020 6:36 am, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
On 4/18/20 9:49 AM, Gaston Gloesener wrote:
InsetLayout "Flex:projectNameInset"
LabelString “My Project Name"
LatexType Command
LaTexName projectName
LyxType "custom"
Decoration Classic
Preamble
\newcommand*{\projectName}{ My Project Name }
EndPreamble
End
The problem with this InsetLayout is that LyX always displays a red
parameter input box after the insert of the inset and this is quite
annoying in this use case as such insets will be quite common in the
document. Is there any method for removing this as this macro does
not require any arguments. I tried to set LatexType to None with no
success and did not identify any other potential solution. Also
google did not show me any potential solutions for this.
After some research and looking up in files provided with LyX I seem
to understand that basically insets are always expected to have some
type of conments and the use I make of it here is more a work-a-round
than a solution. At least I was unable to locate an inset where no
content was excpected.
So the question remains:
* Is there a way to prevent LyX from asking for some content (red box)
* If not, is there another solutioin than the one used here to
achieve the same goals and avoid that input box ?
* would it be possible to add an attribute to InsetLayout to
disable the contents box in the doc text in a future version ?
(like NoContent)
This is bug #4066: https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4066. There's at
least some intention to try to figure it out before 2.4.0. For now,
the workaround you mention is the only one available.
Riki
But you can eliminate the red box from showing by closing the inset
(click on the inset label to toggle open/closed).
Alternatively, there is a hybrid Latex/LyX solution, that avoids going
to the menu to insert custom insets and uses keyboard shortcuts instead.
1. Ensure instant preview is On (Tools > Preferences > Look & Feel >
Display)
2. Assign a keyboard shortcut to preview-insert (Tools > Preferences >
Editing > Shortcuts > Cursor, Mouse and Editing Functions). Now that
printing directly from LyX is no longer supported the shortcut Ctrl+P is
available.
3. Enter in the preamble (Document > Settings > Latex Preamble)
\newcommand*{\projectName}{ My Project Name }
and click OK.
To enter the project name in the document,
4. insert a preview inset (Ctrl+P)
5. insert an ert inset (Ctrl+L) inside the preview inset. On a QWERTY
keyboard, the P and L keys are diagonal neighbours so steps 4 & 5
involve holding the ctrl key down and tapping P and L in quick succession.
6. enter \projectName in the ert inset
7. move the cursor outside the insets. The preview does its magic and
the project name is shown.
Andrew
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Re: Custom layout inset without arguments
On 4/18/20 9:49 AM, Gaston Gloesener wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> NOTE: if you are not interested in my history of TeX/LaTex and Lyx
> just jump to the question below :-D
>
>
>
> I am very new to Lyx but a very “old” Tex/LaTeX user, while I was not
> using it for long time right now. I started using TeX/LaTeX back in
> the 1990’s where I used it for writing several project documents and
> even wrote a quite complex package for building figures of binary data
> structures.
>
>
>
> So I did have some very deep TeX knowledge at that time, while I have
> to admit that now I have to lookup everything again like a noob But
> due to the former use the bits come up and fit together quite easily
> again. When it comes to LaTeX my knowledge is also much smaller than
> at that time but still better then plain TeX “internals”.
>
>
>
> This said, I decided to start a rather quite huge project
> documentation using LaTeX again for reasons of the target audience of
> the project. While I was used to write all my documents in plain LaTeX
> in ascii mode I decided to give a modern frontend a try this time.
> After some research and reading my choice did obviously fall on LyX.
> This was yesterday late evening and I decided to start with MikTex
> after also some research on both options. I was not expecting LyX to
> trigger as many MikTex package downloads which voided one advantage
> of MikTex and also hung at some point. So I went back and went with
> TexLive this time. Installation took a long time (as expected) but
> worked this time including LyX which I reinstalled just for not having
> to search on how to switch TeX instance and making sure it’s a clean
> installation as well.
>
>
>
> _Question_
>
>
>
> First I want to mention that I did RFM (LyX user and customization
> manuals relevant sections) and used google with no success
>
>
>
> I was looking for a way to use macros for entity names which may
> change throughout the lifecycle of the documents (like the project
> name). I know how to do it using a TeX macro but I wanted it to be a
> LyX integrated solution. The solution was found via google to be an
> InsetLayout in the local layout settings. I did quickly understand the
> main mechanics and attributes so that I got it to work and looked up
> the details in the LyX customization manual.
>
>
>
>
>
> InsetLayout "Flex:projectNameInset"
>
> LabelString “My Project Name"
>
> LatexType Command
>
> LaTexName projectName
>
> LyxType "custom"
>
> Decoration Classic
>
> Preamble
>
> \newcommand*{\projectName}{ My Project Name }
>
> EndPreamble
>
> End
>
>
>
> The problem with this InsetLayout is that LyX always displays a red
> parameter input box after the insert of the inset and this is quite
> annoying in this use case as such insets will be quite common in the
> document. Is there any method for removing this as this macro does not
> require any arguments. I tried to set LatexType to None with no
> success and did not identify any other potential solution. Also google
> did not show me any potential solutions for this.
>
>
>
> After some research and looking up in files provided with LyX I seem
> to understand that basically insets are always expected to have some
> type of conments and the use I make of it here is more a work-a-round
> than a solution. At least I was unable to locate an inset where no
> content was excpected.
>
>
>
> So the question remains:
>
>
>
> * Is there a way to prevent LyX from asking for some content (red box)
> * If not, is there another solutioin than the one used here to
> achieve the same goals and avoid that input box ?
> * would it be possible to add an attribute to InsetLayout to disable
> the contents box in the doc text in a future version ? (like
> NoContent)
>
This is bug #4066: https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4066. There's at
least some intention to try to figure it out before 2.4.0. For now, the
workaround you mention is the only one available.
Riki
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Custom layout inset without arguments
Hello,
NOTE: if you are not interested in my history of TeX/LaTex and Lyx just jump to
the question below :-D
I am very new to Lyx but a very “old” Tex/LaTeX user, while I was not using it
for long time right now. I started using TeX/LaTeX back in the 1990’s where I
used it for writing several project documents and even wrote a quite complex
package for building figures of binary data structures.
So I did have some very deep TeX knowledge at that time, while I have to admit
that now I have to lookup everything again like a noob But due to the former
use the bits come up and fit together quite easily again. When it comes to
LaTeX my knowledge is also much smaller than at that time but still better then
plain TeX “internals”.
This said, I decided to start a rather quite huge project documentation using
LaTeX again for reasons of the target audience of the project. While I was used
to write all my documents in plain LaTeX in ascii mode I decided to give a
modern frontend a try this time. After some research and reading my choice did
obviously fall on LyX. This was yesterday late evening and I decided to start
with MikTex after also some research on both options. I was not expecting LyX
to trigger as many MikTex package downloads which voided one advantage of
MikTex and also hung at some point. So I went back and went with TexLive this
time. Installation took a long time (as expected) but worked this time
including LyX which I reinstalled just for not having to search on how to
switch TeX instance and making sure it’s a clean installation as well.
Question
First I want to mention that I did RFM (LyX user and customization manuals
relevant sections) and used google with no success
I was looking for a way to use macros for entity names which may change
throughout the lifecycle of the documents (like the project name). I know how
to do it using a TeX macro but I wanted it to be a LyX integrated solution. The
solution was found via google to be an InsetLayout in the local layout
settings. I did quickly understand the main mechanics and attributes so that I
got it to work and looked up the details in the LyX customization manual.
InsetLayout "Flex:projectNameInset"
LabelString “My Project Name"
LatexType Command
LaTexName projectName
LyxType "custom"
Decoration Classic
Preamble
\newcommand*{\projectName}{ My Project Name }
EndPreamble
End
The problem with this InsetLayout is that LyX always displays a red parameter
input box after the insert of the inset and this is quite annoying in this use
case as such insets will be quite common in the document. Is there any method
for removing this as this macro does not require any arguments. I tried to set
LatexType to None with no success and did not identify any other potential
solution. Also google did not show me any potential solutions for this.
After some research and looking up in files provided with LyX I seem to
understand that basically insets are always expected to have some type of
conments and the use I make of it here is more a work-a-round than a solution.
At least I was unable to locate an inset where no content was excpected.
So the question remains:
* Is there a way to prevent LyX from asking for some content (red box)
* If not, is there another solutioin than the one used here to achieve
the same goals and avoid that input box ?
* would it be possible to add an attribute to InsetLayout to disable the
contents box in the doc text in a future version ? (like NoContent)
Many thanks for reading,
And more thanks for replying ,
Gatson
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