Re: Figure references 1.5.3: Danger Will Robinson
On 24.02.08, Les Denham wrote: On Sunday 24 February 2008 18:06, Steve Litt wrote: Aha! I never even thought of putting it inside the caption (should it be at the beginning or end of caption?). I don't know whether it is explicitly documented, but if you look at the documentation for floats (4.3.2.1 in UserGuide.lyx for 1.5.1) and examine how the labels are placed in the floats, you will see they are in the captions, at the beginning. I doubt if putting them elsewhere in the caption would make any difference, It does not. I have the label always at the end of the caption without problems. but when you click on the label icon, the default name of the label is based on the first few words after the cursor. Actually, the default is the first few words of the caption, so the cursor position within a caption does not matter. GM
Re: Figure references 1.5.3: Danger Will Robinson
On 24.02.08, Les Denham wrote: On Sunday 24 February 2008 18:06, Steve Litt wrote: Aha! I never even thought of putting it inside the caption (should it be at the beginning or end of caption?). I don't know whether it is explicitly documented, but if you look at the documentation for floats (4.3.2.1 in UserGuide.lyx for 1.5.1) and examine how the labels are placed in the floats, you will see they are in the captions, at the beginning. I doubt if putting them elsewhere in the caption would make any difference, It does not. I have the label always at the end of the caption without problems. but when you click on the label icon, the default name of the label is based on the first few words after the cursor. Actually, the default is the first few words of the caption, so the cursor position within a caption does not matter. GM
Re: Figure references 1.5.3: Danger Will Robinson
On 24.02.08, Les Denham wrote: > On Sunday 24 February 2008 18:06, Steve Litt wrote: > > Aha! I never even thought of putting it inside the caption (should it > > be at the beginning or end of caption?). > I don't know whether it is explicitly documented, but if you look at the > documentation for floats (4.3.2.1 in UserGuide.lyx for 1.5.1) and examine how > the labels are placed in the floats, you will see they are in the captions, > at the beginning. I doubt if putting them elsewhere in the caption would > make any difference, It does not. I have the label always at the end of the caption without problems. > but when you click on the label icon, the default name > of the label is based on the first few words after the cursor. Actually, the default is the first few words of the caption, so the cursor position within a caption does not matter. GM
Figure references 1.5.3: Danger Will Robinson
Hi all, Here are two small LyX files. The only difference is that in bug2.lyx the labels come last inside the floats, whereas in bug.lyx the labels come first. bug2.lyx works (after a couple view-pdf, but bug.lyx never works (at least on my 1.5.3). I'm attaching the files and the two images they use, so that you all can be aware of this little gotcha. Or, if it's only happening on my system, maybe we can exploit the differences to find out why. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Books written in LyX: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting Troubleshooting: Just the Facts littbug153.tgz Description: application/tgz
Re: Figure references 1.5.3: Danger Will Robinson
On Sunday 24 February 2008 17:35, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Here are two small LyX files. The only difference is that in bug2.lyx the labels come last inside the floats, whereas in bug.lyx the labels come first. bug2.lyx works (after a couple view-pdf, but bug.lyx never works (at least on my 1.5.3). I'm attaching the files and the two images they use, so that you all can be aware of this little gotcha. Or, if it's only happening on my system, maybe we can exploit the differences to find out why. Thanks Steve, I get the same results as you with these examples, though I'm using 1.5.1 rather than 1.5.3. But I always put the label inside the caption of the float, and have never had this problem. As the caption is what is actually numbered, I think that is the logical place to put the label. A few minutes ago I completed a 66 page document with 235 figures, almost all of them labeled and cross-referenced, and while I have not done a final proof-read I do not think I have an error in any of those references. Les
Re: Figure references 1.5.3: Danger Will Robinson
On Sunday 24 February 2008 18:44, Les Denham wrote: On Sunday 24 February 2008 17:35, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Here are two small LyX files. The only difference is that in bug2.lyx the labels come last inside the floats, whereas in bug.lyx the labels come first. bug2.lyx works (after a couple view-pdf, but bug.lyx never works (at least on my 1.5.3). I'm attaching the files and the two images they use, so that you all can be aware of this little gotcha. Or, if it's only happening on my system, maybe we can exploit the differences to find out why. Thanks Steve, I get the same results as you with these examples, though I'm using 1.5.1 rather than 1.5.3. But I always put the label inside the caption of the float, and have never had this problem. As the caption is what is actually numbered, I think that is the logical place to put the label. A few minutes ago I completed a 66 page document with 235 figures, almost all of them labeled and cross-referenced, and while I have not done a final proof-read I do not think I have an error in any of those references. Les Aha! I never even thought of putting it inside the caption (should it be at the beginning or end of caption?). Whatever the final answer, it should be documented. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Books written in LyX: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
Re: Figure references 1.5.3: Danger Will Robinson
On Sunday 24 February 2008 18:06, Steve Litt wrote: Aha! I never even thought of putting it inside the caption (should it be at the beginning or end of caption?). Whatever the final answer, it should be documented. Steve, I don't know whether it is explicitly documented, but if you look at the documentation for floats (4.3.2.1 in UserGuide.lyx for 1.5.1) and examine how the labels are placed in the floats, you will see they are in the captions, at the beginning. I doubt if putting them elsewhere in the caption would make any difference, but when you click on the label icon, the default name of the label is based on the first few words after the cursor. Doing this in your example gives The-Rapid-Learning as the label for the first figure, and The-Terminology-learning for the second figure. The default is close to what you want in many cases. If there was a particular word or phrase later in the caption you wanted in the label you could insert the label in front of it, and I'm sure it would work fine. Les
Figure references 1.5.3: Danger Will Robinson
Hi all, Here are two small LyX files. The only difference is that in bug2.lyx the labels come last inside the floats, whereas in bug.lyx the labels come first. bug2.lyx works (after a couple view-pdf, but bug.lyx never works (at least on my 1.5.3). I'm attaching the files and the two images they use, so that you all can be aware of this little gotcha. Or, if it's only happening on my system, maybe we can exploit the differences to find out why. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Books written in LyX: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting Troubleshooting: Just the Facts littbug153.tgz Description: application/tgz
Re: Figure references 1.5.3: Danger Will Robinson
On Sunday 24 February 2008 17:35, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Here are two small LyX files. The only difference is that in bug2.lyx the labels come last inside the floats, whereas in bug.lyx the labels come first. bug2.lyx works (after a couple view-pdf, but bug.lyx never works (at least on my 1.5.3). I'm attaching the files and the two images they use, so that you all can be aware of this little gotcha. Or, if it's only happening on my system, maybe we can exploit the differences to find out why. Thanks Steve, I get the same results as you with these examples, though I'm using 1.5.1 rather than 1.5.3. But I always put the label inside the caption of the float, and have never had this problem. As the caption is what is actually numbered, I think that is the logical place to put the label. A few minutes ago I completed a 66 page document with 235 figures, almost all of them labeled and cross-referenced, and while I have not done a final proof-read I do not think I have an error in any of those references. Les
Re: Figure references 1.5.3: Danger Will Robinson
On Sunday 24 February 2008 18:44, Les Denham wrote: On Sunday 24 February 2008 17:35, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Here are two small LyX files. The only difference is that in bug2.lyx the labels come last inside the floats, whereas in bug.lyx the labels come first. bug2.lyx works (after a couple view-pdf, but bug.lyx never works (at least on my 1.5.3). I'm attaching the files and the two images they use, so that you all can be aware of this little gotcha. Or, if it's only happening on my system, maybe we can exploit the differences to find out why. Thanks Steve, I get the same results as you with these examples, though I'm using 1.5.1 rather than 1.5.3. But I always put the label inside the caption of the float, and have never had this problem. As the caption is what is actually numbered, I think that is the logical place to put the label. A few minutes ago I completed a 66 page document with 235 figures, almost all of them labeled and cross-referenced, and while I have not done a final proof-read I do not think I have an error in any of those references. Les Aha! I never even thought of putting it inside the caption (should it be at the beginning or end of caption?). Whatever the final answer, it should be documented. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Books written in LyX: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
Re: Figure references 1.5.3: Danger Will Robinson
On Sunday 24 February 2008 18:06, Steve Litt wrote: Aha! I never even thought of putting it inside the caption (should it be at the beginning or end of caption?). Whatever the final answer, it should be documented. Steve, I don't know whether it is explicitly documented, but if you look at the documentation for floats (4.3.2.1 in UserGuide.lyx for 1.5.1) and examine how the labels are placed in the floats, you will see they are in the captions, at the beginning. I doubt if putting them elsewhere in the caption would make any difference, but when you click on the label icon, the default name of the label is based on the first few words after the cursor. Doing this in your example gives The-Rapid-Learning as the label for the first figure, and The-Terminology-learning for the second figure. The default is close to what you want in many cases. If there was a particular word or phrase later in the caption you wanted in the label you could insert the label in front of it, and I'm sure it would work fine. Les
Figure references 1.5.3: Danger Will Robinson
Hi all, Here are two small LyX files. The only difference is that in bug2.lyx the labels come last inside the floats, whereas in bug.lyx the labels come first. bug2.lyx works (after a couple view->pdf, but bug.lyx never works (at least on my 1.5.3). I'm attaching the files and the two images they use, so that you all can be aware of this little gotcha. Or, if it's only happening on my system, maybe we can exploit the differences to find out why. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Books written in LyX: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting Troubleshooting: Just the Facts littbug153.tgz Description: application/tgz
Re: Figure references 1.5.3: Danger Will Robinson
On Sunday 24 February 2008 17:35, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Here are two small LyX files. The only difference is that in bug2.lyx the > labels come last inside the floats, whereas in bug.lyx the labels come > first. bug2.lyx works (after a couple view->pdf, but bug.lyx never works > (at least on my 1.5.3). I'm attaching the files and the two images they > use, so that you all can be aware of this little gotcha. > > Or, if it's only happening on my system, maybe we can exploit the > differences to find out why. > > Thanks > Steve, I get the same results as you with these examples, though I'm using 1.5.1 rather than 1.5.3. But I always put the label inside the caption of the float, and have never had this problem. As the caption is what is actually numbered, I think that is the logical place to put the label. A few minutes ago I completed a 66 page document with 235 figures, almost all of them labeled and cross-referenced, and while I have not done a final proof-read I do not think I have an error in any of those references. Les
Re: Figure references 1.5.3: Danger Will Robinson
On Sunday 24 February 2008 18:44, Les Denham wrote: > On Sunday 24 February 2008 17:35, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Here are two small LyX files. The only difference is that in bug2.lyx the > > labels come last inside the floats, whereas in bug.lyx the labels come > > first. bug2.lyx works (after a couple view->pdf, but bug.lyx never works > > (at least on my 1.5.3). I'm attaching the files and the two images they > > use, so that you all can be aware of this little gotcha. > > > > Or, if it's only happening on my system, maybe we can exploit the > > differences to find out why. > > > > Thanks > > Steve, > > I get the same results as you with these examples, though I'm using 1.5.1 > rather than 1.5.3. > > But I always put the label inside the caption of the float, and have never > had this problem. As the caption is what is actually numbered, I think > that is the logical place to put the label. > > A few minutes ago I completed a 66 page document with 235 figures, almost > all of them labeled and cross-referenced, and while I have not done a final > proof-read I do not think I have an error in any of those references. > > Les Aha! I never even thought of putting it inside the caption (should it be at the beginning or end of caption?). Whatever the final answer, it should be documented. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Books written in LyX: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting Troubleshooting: Just the Facts
Re: Figure references 1.5.3: Danger Will Robinson
On Sunday 24 February 2008 18:06, Steve Litt wrote: > Aha! I never even thought of putting it inside the caption (should it be at > the beginning or end of caption?). Whatever the final answer, it should be > documented. Steve, I don't know whether it is explicitly documented, but if you look at the documentation for floats (4.3.2.1 in UserGuide.lyx for 1.5.1) and examine how the labels are placed in the floats, you will see they are in the captions, at the beginning. I doubt if putting them elsewhere in the caption would make any difference, but when you click on the label icon, the default name of the label is based on the first few words after the cursor. Doing this in your example gives "The-Rapid-Learning" as the label for the first figure, and "The-Terminology-learning" for the second figure. The default is close to what you want in many cases. If there was a particular word or phrase later in the caption you wanted in the label you could insert the label in front of it, and I'm sure it would work fine. Les
