Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[G. Milde]

On 31.01.05, Rich Shepard wrote:

   When I asked, the production editor replied that they wanted all files
 associated with the production of the book. Therefore, I'll send them
 everything in the /tmp/lyx_tmpdirNNN/lyx_tmpbufN/ directory, plus the
 original .eps files for the figures.

IMHO, sending a tmp-dir is not a very transparent solution.

If the publishers have a working LaTeX installation, they will want the
*.tex source(s) + all included files (*.eps, *.bib, *.bst, ...).

No need for *.aux, *.bbl, *.log, and all these auxiliary files -- these
will be created at their site when they run latex.

I would just use FileExportLatex on the latest version and pack the
tex-file together with the included files in an archive. 

Before this, I'd run latex on the file from a command-line (or my
text-editor) to see whether everything compiles nicely.

Adding a *.ps or *.pdf preview would provide additional redundancy: The
publisher can check whether all turns out as you intended (if they care
about) or see the camera-ready print even in case of compilation problems.

Günter

-- 
G.Milde web.de

Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[Georg Baum]

G. Milde wrote:

 IMHO, sending a tmp-dir is not a very transparent solution.

True, but IHMO the best one currently available.

 If the publishers have a working LaTeX installation, they will want the
 *.tex source(s) + all included files (*.eps, *.bib, *.bst, ...).
 
 No need for *.aux, *.bbl, *.log, and all these auxiliary files -- these
 will be created at their site when they run latex.

True, but they won't hurt either.

 I would just use FileExportLatex on the latest version and pack the
 tex-file together with the included files in an archive.

The problem is that you don't get the converted .eps figures with this
method. And I would never take the risk that something goes wrong when I
manually put the converted figures together at this stage where (hopefully)
every single letter of the whole book is at the right place. Of course if
all figures are in .eps format already and not converted by LyX this method
is fine.

The good news is that in LyX 1.4 Export-LaTeX will just work and also
export the converted images.


Georg

Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[G. Milde]

On  1.02.05, Georg Baum wrote:
 G. Milde wrote:
 
  IMHO, sending a tmp-dir is not a very transparent solution.
 
 True, but IHMO the best one currently available.

I do not think so -- LyX has two kinds of latex export: internal (with
some debugging stuff inserted) and human-readable (FileExportLaTeX).
As a publisher, I would prefer to get the human-readable.

If I want to keep (and finally pack and send away) the intermediate files
(converted eps, say), I would tell LyX not to use a temporary dir.

Then, FileExportPS, FileExportLaTeX (in this order) and all is under the
current dir.

Günter

-- 
G.Milde web.de

Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 06:22:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Rich Shepard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED


   Just to provide closure, here's part of the instructions I received this
morning from Springer's Electronic Technologies Supervisor:

If your book was composed using TeX, please upload all .dvi, .sty, and TeX
source files (including .tex, .dvi, .aux, .sty, .cls, .log, .clo, .ind,
.idx, .bbl, .bib, .toc, .bst, .blg, .ilg, etc.) as well as .eps and/or .tif
files for illustrations, and a master .ps or .pdf file of the whole book.

   So they want it all, including the kitchen sink.

Adding the \listfiles command in the preamble recalls (nearly) all
what wad needed to buid up the document - *nearly* is what is stated in the 
Companion.

I don't remember of a tar/zip utility to pack everything in a single file
(including the styles, classes and configuration files in their local versions 
used).
This must have been done by someone I guess.

Any pointer on this ?

-- 
Jean-Pierre

Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[Rich Shepard]

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, Jean-Pierre Chretien wrote:
Adding the \listfiles command in the preamble recalls (nearly) all what
wad needed to buid up the document - *nearly* is what is stated in the
Companion.
J-P,
  I read the preamble to get the .sty files. The only ones I could not
gather in the submittal/ directory are the *.clo. I've a bunch of them in
/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/ and have no idea which ones are used in the
book. I'll let the TeXpert there tell me which they want.
I don't remember of a tar/zip utility to pack everything in a single file
(including the styles, classes and configuration files in their local
versions used). This must have been done by someone I guess.
  I don't understand. I collected all the files in a single directory and
tarred/gzipped them.
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[G. Milde]

On 31.01.05, Rich Shepard wrote:

   When I asked, the production editor replied that they wanted all files
 associated with the production of the book. Therefore, I'll send them
 everything in the /tmp/lyx_tmpdirNNN/lyx_tmpbufN/ directory, plus the
 original .eps files for the figures.

IMHO, sending a tmp-dir is not a very transparent solution.

If the publishers have a working LaTeX installation, they will want the
*.tex source(s) + all included files (*.eps, *.bib, *.bst, ...).

No need for *.aux, *.bbl, *.log, and all these auxiliary files -- these
will be created at their site when they run latex.

I would just use FileExportLatex on the latest version and pack the
tex-file together with the included files in an archive. 

Before this, I'd run latex on the file from a command-line (or my
text-editor) to see whether everything compiles nicely.

Adding a *.ps or *.pdf preview would provide additional redundancy: The
publisher can check whether all turns out as you intended (if they care
about) or see the camera-ready print even in case of compilation problems.

Günter

-- 
G.Milde web.de

Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[Georg Baum]

G. Milde wrote:

 IMHO, sending a tmp-dir is not a very transparent solution.

True, but IHMO the best one currently available.

 If the publishers have a working LaTeX installation, they will want the
 *.tex source(s) + all included files (*.eps, *.bib, *.bst, ...).
 
 No need for *.aux, *.bbl, *.log, and all these auxiliary files -- these
 will be created at their site when they run latex.

True, but they won't hurt either.

 I would just use FileExportLatex on the latest version and pack the
 tex-file together with the included files in an archive.

The problem is that you don't get the converted .eps figures with this
method. And I would never take the risk that something goes wrong when I
manually put the converted figures together at this stage where (hopefully)
every single letter of the whole book is at the right place. Of course if
all figures are in .eps format already and not converted by LyX this method
is fine.

The good news is that in LyX 1.4 Export-LaTeX will just work and also
export the converted images.


Georg

Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[G. Milde]

On  1.02.05, Georg Baum wrote:
 G. Milde wrote:
 
  IMHO, sending a tmp-dir is not a very transparent solution.
 
 True, but IHMO the best one currently available.

I do not think so -- LyX has two kinds of latex export: internal (with
some debugging stuff inserted) and human-readable (FileExportLaTeX).
As a publisher, I would prefer to get the human-readable.

If I want to keep (and finally pack and send away) the intermediate files
(converted eps, say), I would tell LyX not to use a temporary dir.

Then, FileExportPS, FileExportLaTeX (in this order) and all is under the
current dir.

Günter

-- 
G.Milde web.de

Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 06:22:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Rich Shepard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED


   Just to provide closure, here's part of the instructions I received this
morning from Springer's Electronic Technologies Supervisor:

If your book was composed using TeX, please upload all .dvi, .sty, and TeX
source files (including .tex, .dvi, .aux, .sty, .cls, .log, .clo, .ind,
.idx, .bbl, .bib, .toc, .bst, .blg, .ilg, etc.) as well as .eps and/or .tif
files for illustrations, and a master .ps or .pdf file of the whole book.

   So they want it all, including the kitchen sink.

Adding the \listfiles command in the preamble recalls (nearly) all
what wad needed to buid up the document - *nearly* is what is stated in the 
Companion.

I don't remember of a tar/zip utility to pack everything in a single file
(including the styles, classes and configuration files in their local versions 
used).
This must have been done by someone I guess.

Any pointer on this ?

-- 
Jean-Pierre

Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[Rich Shepard]

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, Jean-Pierre Chretien wrote:
Adding the \listfiles command in the preamble recalls (nearly) all what
wad needed to buid up the document - *nearly* is what is stated in the
Companion.
J-P,
  I read the preamble to get the .sty files. The only ones I could not
gather in the submittal/ directory are the *.clo. I've a bunch of them in
/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/ and have no idea which ones are used in the
book. I'll let the TeXpert there tell me which they want.
I don't remember of a tar/zip utility to pack everything in a single file
(including the styles, classes and configuration files in their local
versions used). This must have been done by someone I guess.
  I don't understand. I collected all the files in a single directory and
tarred/gzipped them.
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[G. Milde]

On 31.01.05, Rich Shepard wrote:

>   When I asked, the production editor replied that they wanted all files
> associated with the production of the book. Therefore, I'll send them
> everything in the /tmp/lyx_tmpdirNNN/lyx_tmpbufN/ directory, plus the
> original .eps files for the figures.

IMHO, sending a tmp-dir is not a very transparent solution.

If the publishers have a working LaTeX installation, they will want the
*.tex source(s) + all included files (*.eps, *.bib, *.bst, ...).

No need for *.aux, *.bbl, *.log, and all these auxiliary files -- these
will be created at their site when they run latex.

I would just use File>Export>Latex on the latest version and pack the
tex-file together with the included files in an archive. 

Before this, I'd run latex on the file from a command-line (or my
text-editor) to see whether everything compiles nicely.

Adding a *.ps or *.pdf preview would provide additional redundancy: The
publisher can check whether all turns out as you intended (if they care
about) or see the camera-ready print even in case of compilation problems.

Günter

-- 
G.Milde web.de

Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[Georg Baum]

G. Milde wrote:

> IMHO, sending a tmp-dir is not a very transparent solution.

True, but IHMO the best one currently available.

> If the publishers have a working LaTeX installation, they will want the
> *.tex source(s) + all included files (*.eps, *.bib, *.bst, ...).
> 
> No need for *.aux, *.bbl, *.log, and all these auxiliary files -- these
> will be created at their site when they run latex.

True, but they won't hurt either.

> I would just use File>Export>Latex on the latest version and pack the
> tex-file together with the included files in an archive.

The problem is that you don't get the converted .eps figures with this
method. And I would never take the risk that something goes wrong when I
manually put the converted figures together at this stage where (hopefully)
every single letter of the whole book is at the right place. Of course if
all figures are in .eps format already and not converted by LyX this method
is fine.

The good news is that in LyX 1.4 Export->LaTeX will just work and also
export the converted images.


Georg

Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[G. Milde]

On  1.02.05, Georg Baum wrote:
> G. Milde wrote:
> 
> > IMHO, sending a tmp-dir is not a very transparent solution.
> 
> True, but IHMO the best one currently available.

I do not think so -- LyX has two kinds of latex export: "internal" (with
some debugging stuff inserted) and "human-readable" (File>Export>LaTeX).
As a publisher, I would prefer to get the human-readable.

If I want to keep (and finally pack and send away) the intermediate files
(converted eps, say), I would tell LyX not to use a temporary dir.

Then, File>Export>PS, File>Export>LaTeX (in this order) and all is under the
current dir.

Günter

-- 
G.Milde web.de

Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[Jean-Pierre Chretien]

>>Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 06:22:43 -0800 (PST)
>>From: Rich Shepard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
>>Subject: Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

>>
>>   Just to provide closure, here's part of the instructions I received this
>>morning from Springer's Electronic Technologies Supervisor:
>>
>>"If your book was composed using TeX, please upload all .dvi, .sty, and TeX
>>source files (including .tex, .dvi, .aux, .sty, .cls, .log, .clo, .ind,
>>.idx, .bbl, .bib, .toc, .bst, .blg, .ilg, etc.) as well as .eps and/or .tif
>>files for illustrations, and a master .ps or .pdf file of the whole book."
>>
>>   So they want it all, including the kitchen sink.

Adding the \listfiles command in the preamble recalls (nearly) all
what wad needed to buid up the document - *nearly* is what is stated in the 
Companion.

I don't remember of a tar/zip utility to pack everything in a single file
(including the styles, classes and configuration files in their local versions 
used).
This must have been done by someone I guess.

Any pointer on this ?

-- 
Jean-Pierre

Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[Rich Shepard]

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, Jean-Pierre Chretien wrote:
Adding the \listfiles command in the preamble recalls (nearly) all what
wad needed to buid up the document - *nearly* is what is stated in the
Companion.
J-P,
  I read the preamble to get the .sty files. The only ones I could not
gather in the submittal/ directory are the *.clo. I've a bunch of them in
/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/ and have no idea which ones are used in the
book. I'll let the TeXpert there tell me which they want.
I don't remember of a tar/zip utility to pack everything in a single file
(including the styles, classes and configuration files in their local
versions used). This must have been done by someone I guess.
  I don't understand. I collected all the files in a single directory and
tarred/gzipped them.
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, Georg Baum wrote:
Do they really want dvi? Then this is correct. I would close all LyX
instances, delete /tmp/lyx_tmpdir* and then open one LyX instance with the
document to make sure that I'll get the right one. I am however not sure
wether you'll need all lyx_tmpbuf directories.
Georg,
  When I asked, the production editor replied that they wanted all files
associated with the production of the book. Therefore, I'll send them
everything in the /tmp/lyx_tmpdirNNN/lyx_tmpbufN/ directory, plus the
original .eps files for the figures.
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, Georg Baum wrote:
Do they really want dvi? Then this is correct. I would close all LyX
instances, delete /tmp/lyx_tmpdir* and then open one LyX instance with the
document to make sure that I'll get the right one. I am however not sure
wether you'll need all lyx_tmpbuf directories.
Georg,
  When I asked, the production editor replied that they wanted all files
associated with the production of the book. Therefore, I'll send them
everything in the /tmp/lyx_tmpdirNNN/lyx_tmpbufN/ directory, plus the
original .eps files for the figures.
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
http://www.appl-ecosys.com   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863

Re: Files Submitted to Publisher -- RESOLVED

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, Georg Baum wrote:
Do they really want dvi? Then this is correct. I would close all LyX
instances, delete /tmp/lyx_tmpdir* and then open one LyX instance with the
document to make sure that I'll get the right one. I am however not sure
wether you'll need all lyx_tmpbuf directories.
Georg,
  When I asked, the production editor replied that they wanted all files
associated with the production of the book. Therefore, I'll send them
everything in the /tmp/lyx_tmpdirNNN/lyx_tmpbufN/ directory, plus the
original .eps files for the figures.
Rich
--
Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President
Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM)
   Voice: 503-667-4517   Fax: 503-667-8863