Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

[Dr Eberhard W Lisse]

Even cooler, thanks more :-)-O

el

On 2021-10-19 19:03 , Jack Lyon wrote:
> Greetings, all.
>
> I'm the creator of LyXBook, and I'd be happy to answer any questions
> you may have about it.
>
> When I first created the LyXBook layouts, I licensed some of them
> based on the purchase of my Microsoft Word add-in LyXConverter, which
> converts Word documents into LyX documents:
>
> https://wiki.lyx.org/Tools/LyXConverter
>
> However, I'm changing those licenses to be the same as that used for
> LyX itself, the GNU General Public License:
>
> https://www.lyx.org/License
>
> That means you can freely use and distribute any of the LyXBook
> layouts (including those that are part of LyXConverter) any way you
> please.  I hope you find them useful.
>
> Thanks to all of you for making LyX such a great piece of software.
>
> Best wishes,
> Jack Lyon
> The Editorium
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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

[Dr Eberhard W Lisse]

Cool, thanks,

el

On 2021-10-19 18:29 , Ken Kopelson wrote:

If anyone has information about LyXBook, here is where I found out about it:

LyX wiki | Layouts / Layouts 

So, the official LyX wiki shows quite a few options when it comes to 
layouts.  Under the section on "book" layouts, you will find this entry:


  * LyXBook  is a
collection of layouts from the Editorium
 designed specifically for typesetting
books in LyX (novels, histories, biographies, and so on).

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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

[Daniel]

On 19/10/2021 16:11, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

If you were to look into the Emoji Handbook you'd find that I am
credited with the stethoscope (25 years or so ago).

The arrows are just pointing...

el


Thanks. For now, I am going to stick to my emotionally poor triad :), 
:(, and ;).


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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

[Jack Lyon]

Thanks for the feedback, Ken. I'll see if I can remedy the problem.

You can get around it by including something like the following under 
Document > Settings > Preamble:


\setstocksize{8.5in}{5.5in}

And, as Daniel pointed out, the layouts depend on the Memoir class, so 
you can use other Memoir commands in the document preamble as well.


Best wishes,
Jack Lyon
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http://www.editorium.com


On 10/19/2021 11:21 AM, Ken Kopelson wrote:
I have found your LyXBook layouts to be very good, and I very much 
appreciate the work you did on them.  The one issue I had, which was 
addressed here by Daniel, is the way it didn't respond to changes in 
the page size using the standard page size settings... when using the 
MiKTek system.


Best Regards,
*Ken*



On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 10:03 AM Jack Lyon  wrote:

Greetings, all.

I'm the creator of LyXBook, and I'd be happy to answer any
questions you may have about it.

When I first created the LyXBook layouts, I licensed some of them
based on the purchase of my Microsoft Word add-in LyXConverter,
which converts Word documents into LyX documents:

https://wiki.lyx.org/Tools/LyXConverter

However, I'm changing those licenses to be the same as that used
for LyX itself, the GNU General Public License:

https://www.lyx.org/License

That means you can freely use and distribute any of the LyXBook
layouts (including those that are part of LyXConverter) any way
you please. I hope you find them useful.

Thanks to all of you for making LyX such a great piece of software.

Best wishes,
Jack Lyon
The Editorium
http://www.editorium.com



On 10/19/2021 10:29 AM, Ken Kopelson wrote:

If anyone has information about LyXBook, here is where I found
out about it:

LyX wiki | Layouts / Layouts 

So, the official LyX wiki shows quite a few options when it comes
to layouts.  Under the section on "book" layouts, you will find
this entry:

  * LyXBook  is
a collection of layouts from the Editorium
 designed specifically for
typesetting books in LyX (novels, histories, biographies, and
so on).

*
*

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 4:24 AM Daniel  wrote:

On 18/10/2021 01:12, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>
> On 2021-10-15 16:38 , Daniel wrote:
>> On 15/10/2021 13:07, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>>> On 15/10/2021 07:57, Ken Kopelson wrote:
> [...]
>>> What is the LyXBook class?  Or if it refers to the
layout, where did
>>> you get it from?
>
> What is the LyXBook class?

As I wrote in my reply, it is derived from memoir.

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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

[Ken Kopelson]

I have found your LyXBook layouts to be very good, and I very much
appreciate the work you did on them.  The one issue I had, which was
addressed here by Daniel, is the way it didn't respond to changes in the
page size using the standard page size settings... when using the MiKTek
system.

Best Regards,
*Ken*



On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 10:03 AM Jack Lyon  wrote:

> Greetings, all.
>
> I'm the creator of LyXBook, and I'd be happy to answer any questions you
> may have about it.
>
> When I first created the LyXBook layouts, I licensed some of them based on
> the purchase of my Microsoft Word add-in LyXConverter, which converts Word
> documents into LyX documents:
>
> https://wiki.lyx.org/Tools/LyXConverter
>
> However, I'm changing those licenses to be the same as that used for LyX
> itself, the GNU General Public License:
>
> https://www.lyx.org/License
>
> That means you can freely use and distribute any of the LyXBook layouts
> (including those that are part of LyXConverter) any way you please. I hope
> you find them useful.
>
> Thanks to all of you for making LyX such a great piece of software.
>
> Best wishes,
> Jack Lyon
> The Editorium
> http://www.editorium.com
>
>
>
> On 10/19/2021 10:29 AM, Ken Kopelson wrote:
>
> If anyone has information about LyXBook, here is where I found out about
> it:
>
> LyX wiki | Layouts / Layouts 
>
> So, the official LyX wiki shows quite a few options when it comes to
> layouts.  Under the section on "book" layouts, you will find this entry:
>
>
>- LyXBook  is a
>collection of layouts from the Editorium  
> designed
>specifically for typesetting books in LyX (novels, histories, biographies,
>and so on).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 4:24 AM Daniel  wrote:
>
>> On 18/10/2021 01:12, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>> >
>> > On 2021-10-15 16:38 , Daniel wrote:
>> >> On 15/10/2021 13:07, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>> >>> On 15/10/2021 07:57, Ken Kopelson wrote:
>> > [...]
>> >>> What is the LyXBook class?  Or if it refers to the layout, where did
>> >>> you get it from?
>> >
>> > What is the LyXBook class?
>>
>> As I wrote in my reply, it is derived from memoir.
>>
>> Daniel
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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

[Jack Lyon]

Greetings, all.

I'm the creator of LyXBook, and I'd be happy to answer any questions you 
may have about it.


When I first created the LyXBook layouts, I licensed some of them based 
on the purchase of my Microsoft Word add-in LyXConverter, which converts 
Word documents into LyX documents:


https://wiki.lyx.org/Tools/LyXConverter

However, I'm changing those licenses to be the same as that used for LyX 
itself, the GNU General Public License:


https://www.lyx.org/License

That means you can freely use and distribute any of the LyXBook layouts 
(including those that are part of LyXConverter) any way you please. I 
hope you find them useful.


Thanks to all of you for making LyX such a great piece of software.

Best wishes,
Jack Lyon
The Editorium
http://www.editorium.com



On 10/19/2021 10:29 AM, Ken Kopelson wrote:
If anyone has information about LyXBook, here is where I found out 
about it:


LyX wiki | Layouts / Layouts 

So, the official LyX wiki shows quite a few options when it comes to 
layouts.  Under the section on "book" layouts, you will find this entry:


  * LyXBook  is a
collection of layouts from the Editorium
 designed specifically for typesetting
books in LyX (novels, histories, biographies, and so on).

*
*

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 4:24 AM Daniel  wrote:

On 18/10/2021 01:12, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>
> On 2021-10-15 16:38 , Daniel wrote:
>> On 15/10/2021 13:07, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>>> On 15/10/2021 07:57, Ken Kopelson wrote:
> [...]
>>> What is the LyXBook class?  Or if it refers to the layout,
where did
>>> you get it from?
>
> What is the LyXBook class?

As I wrote in my reply, it is derived from memoir.

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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

[Ken Kopelson]

If anyone has information about LyXBook, here is where I found out about it:

LyX wiki | Layouts / Layouts 

So, the official LyX wiki shows quite a few options when it comes to
layouts.  Under the section on "book" layouts, you will find this entry:


   - LyXBook  is a
   collection of layouts from the Editorium
 designed
   specifically for typesetting books in LyX (novels, histories, biographies,
   and so on).



On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 4:24 AM Daniel  wrote:

> On 18/10/2021 01:12, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> >
> > On 2021-10-15 16:38 , Daniel wrote:
> >> On 15/10/2021 13:07, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> >>> On 15/10/2021 07:57, Ken Kopelson wrote:
> > [...]
> >>> What is the LyXBook class?  Or if it refers to the layout, where did
> >>> you get it from?
> >
> > What is the LyXBook class?
>
> As I wrote in my reply, it is derived from memoir.
>
> Daniel
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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

If you were to look into the Emoji Handbook you'd find that I am
credited with the stethoscope (25 years or so ago).

The arrows are just pointing...

el



On 19/10/2021 13:56, Daniel wrote:

On 18/10/2021 01:12, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

--> :-)-O <-- stands for I was joking


Never came across that emoji before.  What is it supposed to picture?

The more common, ;-) works quite well in this case too, I think.

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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

[Daniel]

On 18/10/2021 01:12, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

--> :-)-O <-- stands for I was joking


Never came across that emoji before. What is it supposed to picture?

The more common, ;-) works quite well in this case too, I think.

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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

[Daniel]

On 18/10/2021 01:12, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:


On 2021-10-15 16:38 , Daniel wrote:

On 15/10/2021 13:07, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

On 15/10/2021 07:57, Ken Kopelson wrote:

[...]

What is the LyXBook class?  Or if it refers to the layout, where did
you get it from?


What is the LyXBook class?


As I wrote in my reply, it is derived from memoir.

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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

On 2021-10-15 16:38 , Daniel wrote:

On 15/10/2021 13:07, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

On 15/10/2021 07:57, Ken Kopelson wrote:

[...]

What is the LyXBook class?  Or if it refers to the layout, where did
you get it from?


What is the LyXBook class?


I find Koma Script much better and easier that memoir and have
switched some years ago.  That may be opinion, but try it out :-)-O

el


But you saw the other solution that worked, right?

Daniel


Yes, but that's beside the point (that I wanted to make) :-)-O

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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

Ken,

--> :-)-O <-- stands for I was joking

If it works for you it works for you.

However I am not sure that for LyX and LaTeX 64GB RAM makes that much
difference, and we see many queries here caused by the MikReX setup.

I run the latexbench on all machines I can lay my hands on and after
every TeX Update:

http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/latex-bench/
https://github.com/Gabriel439/bench

And the age/speed seems to be the determining factor from what I see,
not the RAM.

greetings,

el

On 2021-10-15 17:21 , Ken Kopelson wrote:


Thanks Dr., but honestly, the Windows setup I have kicks butt on the
other TWO Macbook Pros I have, so I'll stick with Windows, thanks :)
(It has 64GB of RAM) In fact, the name of my Windows machine is "BEEFY
BEAST", if that tells you anything...

Also, as I indicated in my final email to Daniel, he nailed the
solution, and I was very thankful and happy for the assistance.

I sent his solution to the list so that others could see how to fix
this problem.  I feel bad that you missed seeing that last email, and
therefore took time to try and help me.  I do thank you for your
efforts, and wish you an excellent day and weekend!

Regards,
-Ken

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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

[Ken Kopelson]

Thanks Dr., but honestly, the Windows setup I have kicks butt on the other
TWO Macbook Pros I have, so I'll stick with Windows, thanks :)  (It has
64GB of RAM) In fact, the name of my Windows machine is "BEEFY BEAST", if
that tells you anything...

Also, as I indicated in my final email to Daniel, he nailed the solution,
and I was very thankful and happy for the assistance.

I sent his solution to the list so that others could see how to fix this
problem.  I feel bad that you missed seeing that last email, and therefore
took time to try and help me.  I do thank you for your efforts, and wish
you an excellent day and weekend!

Regards,
-Ken

On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 4:08 AM Dr Eberhard Lisse  wrote:

> Ken,
>
> the answer is obvious, don't use Windows :-)-O
>
>
> But, I don't think it has anything to do with LyX but rather is a LaTeX
> issue, and guessing of setting a default page size installation wide.
>
> The LeX Live Manager app on the Mac has the option
>
> Configure --> Change Paper Size
>
> which is the default for all documents if nothing else is specified, in
> a document, which then overrides.
>
> I have no clue what MikTeX Windows does and whether it allows override.
> Could be set with admin privilege or some other issue.
>
> What is the LyXBook class? Or if it refers to the layout, where did you
> get it from?
>
> I find Koma Script much better and easier that memoir and have switched
> some years ago. That may be opinion, but try it out :-)-O
>
> el
>
>
>
> On 15/10/2021 07:57, Ken Kopelson wrote:
> > FYI
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: *Ken Kopelson* mailto:kenb...@gmail.com>>
> > Date: Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 10:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: PDF Page Size
> > To: racoon mailto:xraco...@gmx.de>>
> >
> >
> > Thank you SO MUCH Daniel!  Your suggestion fixed the problem for me,
> > and it works beautifully now!
> >
> > Many thanks again,
> > *Ken Kopelson*
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 12:20 PM racoon  xraco...@gmx.de>> wrote:
> >
> > It seems that your class is based on the memoir class.  It might
> > be that the settings in Document > Settings > Page Layout which
> > use the geometry package are not working well with that class.
> > Unfortunately, I have never worked with the memoir class.  From a
> > little reading in the memoir class documentation
> > (
> https://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/CTAN/macros/latex/contrib/memoir/memman.pdf)
> > I gathered that you might try to add
> >
> > \setstocksize{9in}{6in}
> >
> > in Document > Settings > Preamble. Does that help?
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> >
> > On 2021-10-14 20:24, Ken Kopelson wrote:
> >  > Thanks Daniel.  It seems to have something to do with the
> >  > inserted image.  I'm using the LyXBook class, which I've also
> >  > included with this small test file.  I use the Layout as a
> >  > local in the same directory as the .lyx file.
> >  >
> >  > -Ken
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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

[Daniel]

On 15/10/2021 13:07, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

On 15/10/2021 07:57, Ken Kopelson wrote:

FYI
-- Forwarded message -
From: *Ken Kopelson* mailto:kenb...@gmail.com>>
Date: Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: PDF Page Size
To: racoon mailto:xraco...@gmx.de>>


Thank you SO MUCH Daniel!  Your suggestion fixed the problem for me,
and it works beautifully now!

Many thanks again,
*Ken Kopelson*

On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 12:20 PM racoon > wrote:


    It seems that your class is based on the memoir class.  It might
    be that the settings in Document > Settings > Page Layout which
    use the geometry package are not working well with that class.
    Unfortunately, I have never worked with the memoir class.  From a
    little reading in the memoir class documentation

(https://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/CTAN/macros/latex/contrib/memoir/memman.pdf) 


    I gathered that you might try to add

    \setstocksize{9in}{6in}

    in Document > Settings > Preamble. Does that help?

    Daniel


    On 2021-10-14 20:24, Ken Kopelson wrote:
 > Thanks Daniel.  It seems to have something to do with the
 > inserted image.  I'm using the LyXBook class, which I've also
 > included with this small test file.  I use the Layout as a
 > local in the same directory as the .lyx file.
 >
 > -Ken

[...]


Ken,

the answer is obvious, don't use Windows :-)-O


But, I don't think it has anything to do with LyX but rather is a LaTeX
issue, and guessing of setting a default page size installation wide.

The LeX Live Manager app on the Mac has the option

Configure --> Change Paper Size

which is the default for all documents if nothing else is specified, in
a document, which then overrides.

I have no clue what MikTeX Windows does and whether it allows override.
Could be set with admin privilege or some other issue.

What is the LyXBook class? Or if it refers to the layout, where did you
get it from?

I find Koma Script much better and easier that memoir and have switched
some years ago. That may be opinion, but try it out :-)-O

el 


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Re: Fwd: PDF Page Size

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

Ken,

the answer is obvious, don't use Windows :-)-O


But, I don't think it has anything to do with LyX but rather is a LaTeX
issue, and guessing of setting a default page size installation wide.

The LeX Live Manager app on the Mac has the option

Configure --> Change Paper Size

which is the default for all documents if nothing else is specified, in
a document, which then overrides.

I have no clue what MikTeX Windows does and whether it allows override.
Could be set with admin privilege or some other issue.

What is the LyXBook class? Or if it refers to the layout, where did you
get it from?

I find Koma Script much better and easier that memoir and have switched
some years ago. That may be opinion, but try it out :-)-O

el



On 15/10/2021 07:57, Ken Kopelson wrote:

FYI
-- Forwarded message -
From: *Ken Kopelson* mailto:kenb...@gmail.com>>
Date: Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: PDF Page Size
To: racoon mailto:xraco...@gmx.de>>


Thank you SO MUCH Daniel!  Your suggestion fixed the problem for me,
and it works beautifully now!

Many thanks again,
*Ken Kopelson*

On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 12:20 PM racoon mailto:xraco...@gmx.de>> wrote:

It seems that your class is based on the memoir class.  It might
be that the settings in Document > Settings > Page Layout which
use the geometry package are not working well with that class.
Unfortunately, I have never worked with the memoir class.  From a
little reading in the memoir class documentation
(https://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/CTAN/macros/latex/contrib/memoir/memman.pdf)
I gathered that you might try to add

\setstocksize{9in}{6in}

in Document > Settings > Preamble. Does that help?

Daniel


On 2021-10-14 20:24, Ken Kopelson wrote:
 > Thanks Daniel.  It seems to have something to do with the
 > inserted image.  I'm using the LyXBook class, which I've also
 > included with this small test file.  I use the Layout as a
 > local in the same directory as the .lyx file.
 >
 > -Ken

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Fwd: PDF Page Size

[Ken Kopelson]

FYI
-- Forwarded message -
From: Ken Kopelson 
Date: Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: PDF Page Size
To: racoon 


Thank you SO MUCH Daniel!  Your suggestion fixed the problem for me, and it
works beautifully now!

Many thanks again,
*Ken Kopelson*

On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 12:20 PM racoon  wrote:

> It seems that your class is based on the memoir class. It might be that
> the settings in Document > Settings > Page Layout which use the geometry
> package are not working well with that class. Unfortunately, I have
> never worked with the memoir class. From a little reading in the memoir
> class documentation
> (https://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/CTAN/macros/latex/contrib/memoir/memman.pdf
> ),
> I gathered that you might try to add
>
> \setstocksize{9in}{6in}
>
> in Document > Settings > Preamble. Does that help?
>
> Daniel
>
>
> On 2021-10-14 20:24, Ken Kopelson wrote:
> > Thanks Daniel.  It seems to have something to do with the inserted
> > image.  I'm using the LyXBook class, which I've also included with this
> > small test file.  I use the Layout as a local in the same directory as
> > the .lyx file.
> >
> > -Ken
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 7:04 AM Daniel  > > wrote:
> >
> > On 13/10/2021 22:37, Ken Kopelson wrote:
> >  > Hello all,
> >  > I am really hoping that one of you brilliant people can answer
> this
> >  > question concerning page size for PDFs.
> >  >
> >  > First, this is concerning the latest LyX (2.3.6.1), along with the
> >  > latest MiKTeK (21.6/7) on Windows 10.  I use LyX on both MacOS,
> > and on
> >  > Windows.  It is the Windows version that fails to do the right
> thing.
> >  >
> >  > When I set a page size using the MacOS LyX, (using the
> >  > document->settings->Page Layout) to something like 9 inches
> > height x 6
> >  > inches width, and then export the document to PDF, it produces a
> >  > document that is the dimensions I requested, and all PDF viewers
> > show it
> >  > correctly.
> >  >
> >  > Then, if I do the exact same thing in the Windows version, and
> > export
> >  > the document to PDF, it produces a document that is Letter Size
> > (8.5" x
> >  > 11"), regardless of the settings in the Page Layout.
> >  >
> >  > This creates quite a problem, and makes it impossible to make an
> > eBook
> >  > PDF.  Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug that needs to
> > be fixed?
> >  >
> >  > Many thanks for your time in answering my question.
> >  > Ken Kopelson
> >
> > Seems to work fine here on Windows (though I am using TeX Live). Mind
> > sending a document that where it does not work for you?
> >
> > Daniel
> >
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