Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Dave Hewitt
My problems were solved on a third installation attempt, so I report the details here as a record. Thanks a million to Uwe and others that helped make it work. I might suggest incorporating some of these do's and dont's in the Readme file to avoid future problems (especially for total novices

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Dave Hewitt schrieb: How do you pronounce LyX in English properly? The original name of LyX was Lyrix, so it is pronounced it with the y as the y in lyrics regards Uwe

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 09:53:47PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language choice in GSView. I cannot reproduce. The attached image

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Andre Poenitz schrieb: Since the installer fight showed his ugly head recently I think I might mention my opinion on such behaviour: Waiting 25 minutes for something that I don't need is a bit beyond my expectation even of a 'complete install'. Can't this 'LaTeX package search' thing not

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 10:48:18PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Andre Poenitz schrieb: Since the installer fight showed his ugly head recently I think I might mention my opinion on such behaviour: Waiting 25 minutes for something that I don't need is a bit beyond my expectation even of a

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Andre Poenitz schrieb: Maybe the LyX configuration nis doing too much then. No, the configuration works correct. It simply asks LaTeX packages are installed or not. And no, you need these packages, otherwise many features of LyX are not usable. (take for example formal tables, instant

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Dave Hewitt
My problems were solved on a third installation attempt, so I report the details here as a record. Thanks a million to Uwe and others that helped make it work. I might suggest incorporating some of these do's and dont's in the Readme file to avoid future problems (especially for total novices

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Dave Hewitt schrieb: How do you pronounce LyX in English properly? The original name of LyX was Lyrix, so it is pronounced it with the y as the y in lyrics regards Uwe

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 09:53:47PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language choice in GSView. I cannot reproduce. The attached image

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Andre Poenitz schrieb: Since the installer fight showed his ugly head recently I think I might mention my opinion on such behaviour: Waiting 25 minutes for something that I don't need is a bit beyond my expectation even of a 'complete install'. Can't this 'LaTeX package search' thing not

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 10:48:18PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Andre Poenitz schrieb: Since the installer fight showed his ugly head recently I think I might mention my opinion on such behaviour: Waiting 25 minutes for something that I don't need is a bit beyond my expectation even of a

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Andre Poenitz schrieb: Maybe the LyX configuration nis doing too much then. No, the configuration works correct. It simply asks LaTeX packages are installed or not. And no, you need these packages, otherwise many features of LyX are not usable. (take for example formal tables, instant

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Dave Hewitt
My problems were solved on a third installation attempt, so I report the details here as a record. Thanks a million to Uwe and others that helped make it work. I might suggest incorporating some of these do's and dont's in the Readme file to avoid future problems (especially for total novices

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Dave Hewitt schrieb: How do you pronounce "LyX" in English properly? The original name of LyX was "Lyrix", so it is pronounced it with the "y" as the "y" in "lyrics" regards Uwe

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 09:53:47PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Dave Hewitt schrieb: > > > The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that > > you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language > > choice in GSView. > > I cannot reproduce. The attached image

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Andre Poenitz schrieb: Since the installer fight showed his ugly head recently I think I might mention my opinion on such behaviour: Waiting 25 minutes for something that I don't need is a bit beyond my expectation even of a 'complete install'. Can't this 'LaTeX package search' thing not

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 10:48:18PM +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Andre Poenitz schrieb: > > >Since the installer fight showed his ugly head recently I think I might > >mention my opinion on such behaviour: Waiting 25 minutes for something > >that I don't need is a bit beyond my expectation even of a

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-26 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Andre Poenitz schrieb: Maybe the LyX configuration nis doing too much then. No, the configuration works correct. It simply asks LaTeX packages are installed or not. And no, you need these packages, otherwise many features of LyX are not usable. (take for example formal tables, instant

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Joost Verburg schrieb: So why not just hide the windows and show the output in the installer log? Because the user needs to be informed what is currently done and which package is currently installed. This is important since this process can last half an hour with a slow internet connection.

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Dave Hewitt schrieb: The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language choice in GSView. I cannot reproduce. The attached image GSview-language.png shows what I get when I press Setup in the appearing GSview

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-25 Thread Bo Peng
Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very long time... over 25 minutes. I would suggest that we start lyx before configure and show the output of configure.py in a lyx windows. Otherwise, people tend to close the DOS window or kill lyx.exe if it stays there for 25

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Joost Verburg schrieb: So why not just hide the windows and show the output in the installer log? Because the user needs to be informed what is currently done and which package is currently installed. This is important since this process can last half an hour with a slow internet connection.

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Dave Hewitt schrieb: The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language choice in GSView. I cannot reproduce. The attached image GSview-language.png shows what I get when I press Setup in the appearing GSview

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-25 Thread Bo Peng
Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very long time... over 25 minutes. I would suggest that we start lyx before configure and show the output of configure.py in a lyx windows. Otherwise, people tend to close the DOS window or kill lyx.exe if it stays there for 25

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Joost Verburg schrieb: So why not just hide the windows and show the output in the installer log? Because the user needs to be informed what is currently done and which package is currently installed. This is important since this process can last half an hour with a slow internet connection.

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-25 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Dave Hewitt schrieb: > The LyX pop-up instructions for the GSView installer indicate that > you'll need to choose a language, but I was not offered a language > choice in GSView. I cannot reproduce. The attached image "GSview-language.png" shows what I get when I press "Setup" in the appearing

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-25 Thread Bo Peng
> Upon first start-up of LyX, the configuration did indeed take a very long > time... over 25 minutes. I would suggest that we start lyx before configure and show the output of configure.py in a lyx windows. Otherwise, people tend to close the DOS window or kill lyx.exe if it stays there for 25

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-24 Thread Helge Hafting
Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-24 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Helge Hafting schrieb: If those windows don't tell the users anything then some will close them, they are used to click through some pages type of installs already. The installer informs you about the following steps with a message. regards Uwe

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-24 Thread Dave Hewitt
Hello, I appreciate the help very much. I think it might have gotten me closer to a clean install, but there were still a few complications. I sincerely hope that this message does not trouble those that are uninterested, and I'll direct future discussion directly only to Uwe if desired.

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-24 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's a relatively easy mistake to do... How about adding some descriptions to this text? It wouldn't have to be a lot, in fact... maybe it could just refer to a web (wiki?) page where the details are explained? So why not just hide the windows and show the

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-24 Thread Helge Hafting
Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-24 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Helge Hafting schrieb: If those windows don't tell the users anything then some will close them, they are used to click through some pages type of installs already. The installer informs you about the following steps with a message. regards Uwe

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-24 Thread Dave Hewitt
Hello, I appreciate the help very much. I think it might have gotten me closer to a clean install, but there were still a few complications. I sincerely hope that this message does not trouble those that are uninterested, and I'll direct future discussion directly only to Uwe if desired.

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-24 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's a relatively easy mistake to do... How about adding some descriptions to this text? It wouldn't have to be a lot, in fact... maybe it could just refer to a web (wiki?) page where the details are explained? So why not just hide the windows and show the

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-24 Thread Helge Hafting
Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-24 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Helge Hafting schrieb: If those windows don't tell the users anything then some will close them, they are used to "click through some pages" type of installs already. The installer informs you about the following steps with a message. regards Uwe

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-24 Thread Dave Hewitt
Hello, I appreciate the help very much. I think it might have gotten me closer to a clean install, but there were still a few complications. I sincerely hope that this message does not trouble those that are uninterested, and I'll direct future discussion directly only to Uwe if desired.

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-24 Thread Joost Verburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's a relatively easy mistake to do... How about adding some descriptions to this text? It wouldn't have to be a lot, in fact... maybe it could just refer to a web (wiki?) page where the details are explained? So why not just hide the windows and show the

Help for a new user

2007-08-23 Thread Dave Hewitt
Hello, I have a simple question. I am a newbie to LaTeX and LyX, but I am eager to learn. I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short time, but then

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-23 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that

Help for a new user

2007-08-23 Thread Dave Hewitt
Hello, I have a simple question. I am a newbie to LaTeX and LyX, but I am eager to learn. I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short time, but then

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-23 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that

Help for a new user

2007-08-23 Thread Dave Hewitt
Hello, I have a simple question. I am a newbie to LaTeX and LyX, but I am eager to learn. I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that seemed to take only a short time, but then

Re: Help for a new user

2007-08-23 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Dave Hewitt schrieb: I downloaded the latest LyxWinInstaller (complete) and attempted to install on a WinXP machine (fairly new, plenty or memory and speed, etc.). At a couple points in the installation a DOS window popped up, did something that