Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Crane
 Dear list,
 
 I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
 finished into postscript.
 
 I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
 the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
 pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.
 
 I figure this is possible in ps, just subtract text and add box objects
 - but I have no idea how to do it.
 
 Are there any editors I can get my hands on that will do that?

I've not tried this myself but you might want to check out pstoedit and 
edit the result with xfig. According to the docs pstoedit will also 
produce Latex2e O/P.

Tom.

-- 
Tom Crane, Dept. Physics, Royal Holloway, University of London, Egham Hill,
Egham, Surrey, TW20 0EX, England. 
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Crane
 Dear list,
 
 I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
 finished into postscript.
 
 I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
 the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
 pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.
 
 I figure this is possible in ps, just subtract text and add box objects
 - but I have no idea how to do it.
 
 Are there any editors I can get my hands on that will do that?

I've not tried this myself but you might want to check out pstoedit and 
edit the result with xfig. According to the docs pstoedit will also 
produce Latex2e O/P.

Tom.

-- 
Tom Crane, Dept. Physics, Royal Holloway, University of London, Egham Hill,
Egham, Surrey, TW20 0EX, England. 
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SPAN:   19.875
Fax:+44 (0) 1784 472794



Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Crane
> Dear list,
> 
> I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
> finished into postscript.
> 
> I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
> the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
> pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.
> 
> I figure this is possible in ps, just subtract text and add box objects
> - but I have no idea how to do it.
> 
> Are there any editors I can get my hands on that will do that?

I've not tried this myself but you might want to check out pstoedit and 
edit the result with xfig. According to the docs pstoedit will also 
produce Latex2e O/P.

Tom.

-- 
Tom Crane, Dept. Physics, Royal Holloway, University of London, Egham Hill,
Egham, Surrey, TW20 0EX, England. 
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SPAN:   19.875
Fax:+44 (0) 1784 472794



How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Darren Freeman
Dear list,

I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
finished into postscript.

I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.

I figure this is possible in ps, just subtract text and add box objects
- but I have no idea how to do it.

Are there any editors I can get my hands on that will do that?

Thanks heaps!

Have fun,
Darren Freeman






Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Les Denham
On Monday 28 October 2002 1349 pm, Darren Freeman wrote:

 I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
 finished into postscript.

 I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
 the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
 pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.

The Gimp -- but it would be rather fiddly if you have a lot of black boxes to 
put in.


-- 
L. R. Denham
--
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html



Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Darren Freeman
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 06:57, Les Denham wrote:
 On Monday 28 October 2002 1349 pm, Darren Freeman wrote:
 
  I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
  finished into postscript.
 
  I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
  the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
  pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.
 
 The Gimp -- but it would be rather fiddly if you have a lot of black boxes to 
 put in.

Yes it would, and it wouldn't be something you could throw at a printer
and get optimal resolution etc. Plus storing it would suck =) I'd have
to carry it on CD if I rendered to 600 dpi times 60 pages =)

What I really want is to edit the PS file itself, and save as PS without
the text that was covered up - then I could post the result on the Web
without people accessing the hidden text from the PS.

It seems like such a simple request, too! I mean, I've seen people edit
PS by hand to move things in figures, but never to the scale I'm talking
about. But it should be possible...

 L. R. Denham
 --
 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
 See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
 

BTW I read the link in your signature, and I agree. I'll make a similar
(identical?) signature for myself shortly.

Have fun,
Darren




Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Robin Turner
Les Denham wrote:

On Monday 28 October 2002 1349 pm, Darren Freeman wrote:



I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
finished into postscript.

I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.



The Gimp -- but it would be rather fiddly if you have a lot of black boxes to 
put in.

You can then achieve your censoring effect by changing the background 
colour of the text to black while still in LyX (though of course this 
wouldn't work if you're distributing the .ps file rather than a 
printout, since anyone with a text editor could read the file directly). 
 The only workaround I could think of in that case would be to convert 
it into some impenetrable binary format (even PDF is convertable to 
text, though the average non-UNIX, non-DTP professional probably won't 
know this).

The problem with editing the .ps file is that unless you use a 
fixed-width font, it's virtually impossible to calculate the exact 
length of your blank.  I said virtually - it depends on how much of 
yur life you want to spend learning PostScript.

Robin



--
A free man ought not to learn anything under duress.
Compulsory physical exercise does no harm to the body,
but compulsory learning never sticks in the mind. - Plato

Robin Turner
IDMYO,
Bilkent University
Ankara 06533
Turkey

www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin



Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 06:19:48AM +1030, Darren Freeman wrote:
 Dear list,
 
 I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
 finished into postscript.
 
 I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
 the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
 pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.
 
 I figure this is possible in ps, just subtract text and add box objects
 - but I have no idea how to do it.
 
 Are there any editors I can get my hands on that will do that?

Perhaps Adobe Illustrator can read/write arbitrary Postscript.
Also pstoedit can convert from Postscript to other editable formats.

But perhaps the best option is to put the text you want to omit inside
\hidetext{} command, and add to the preamble 
  \usepackage{soul,texpower}
  %\newcommand{\hidetext}[1]{#1}

If you do want to show the hidden text, add a % before the first line, and
remove the % before the 2nd one.



Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Darren Freeman
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 08:15, Dekel Tsur wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 06:19:48AM +1030, Darren Freeman wrote:
  Dear list,
  
  I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
  finished into postscript.
  
  I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
  the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
  pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.
  
  I figure this is possible in ps, just subtract text and add box objects
  - but I have no idea how to do it.
  
  Are there any editors I can get my hands on that will do that?
 
 Perhaps Adobe Illustrator can read/write arbitrary Postscript.
 Also pstoedit can convert from Postscript to other editable formats.

Don't have it =(

 But perhaps the best option is to put the text you want to omit inside
 \hidetext{} command, and add to the preamble 
   \usepackage{soul,texpower}
   %\newcommand{\hidetext}[1]{#1}

Does that cause the hidden text to take up the same amount of space, or
would formatting be altered by hiding it?

Also would I need to go and look for that package or is it pretty much
standard?

 If you do want to show the hidden text, add a % before the first line, and
 remove the % before the 2nd one.

I'll try it later.. thanks

Have fun,
Darren




Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Darren Freeman
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 09:04, Robin Turner wrote:
 Les Denham wrote:
  On Monday 28 October 2002 1349 pm, Darren Freeman wrote:
  
  
 I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
 finished into postscript.
 
 I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
 the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
 pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.
 
  
  The Gimp -- but it would be rather fiddly if you have a lot of black boxes to 
  put in.
 
 You can then achieve your censoring effect by changing the background 
 colour of the text to black while still in LyX (though of course this 
 wouldn't work if you're distributing the .ps file rather than a 
 printout, since anyone with a text editor could read the file directly). 

Good idea, at the minimum I need the printout in a *hurry* to have it
bound. The rest I can sit on if need be =)

 Robin

Thanks




How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Darren Freeman
Dear list,

I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
finished into postscript.

I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.

I figure this is possible in ps, just subtract text and add box objects
- but I have no idea how to do it.

Are there any editors I can get my hands on that will do that?

Thanks heaps!

Have fun,
Darren Freeman






Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Les Denham
On Monday 28 October 2002 1349 pm, Darren Freeman wrote:

 I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
 finished into postscript.

 I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
 the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
 pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.

The Gimp -- but it would be rather fiddly if you have a lot of black boxes to 
put in.


-- 
L. R. Denham
--
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html



Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Darren Freeman
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 06:57, Les Denham wrote:
 On Monday 28 October 2002 1349 pm, Darren Freeman wrote:
 
  I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
  finished into postscript.
 
  I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
  the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
  pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.
 
 The Gimp -- but it would be rather fiddly if you have a lot of black boxes to 
 put in.

Yes it would, and it wouldn't be something you could throw at a printer
and get optimal resolution etc. Plus storing it would suck =) I'd have
to carry it on CD if I rendered to 600 dpi times 60 pages =)

What I really want is to edit the PS file itself, and save as PS without
the text that was covered up - then I could post the result on the Web
without people accessing the hidden text from the PS.

It seems like such a simple request, too! I mean, I've seen people edit
PS by hand to move things in figures, but never to the scale I'm talking
about. But it should be possible...

 L. R. Denham
 --
 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
 See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
 

BTW I read the link in your signature, and I agree. I'll make a similar
(identical?) signature for myself shortly.

Have fun,
Darren




Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Robin Turner
Les Denham wrote:

On Monday 28 October 2002 1349 pm, Darren Freeman wrote:



I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
finished into postscript.

I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.



The Gimp -- but it would be rather fiddly if you have a lot of black boxes to 
put in.

You can then achieve your censoring effect by changing the background 
colour of the text to black while still in LyX (though of course this 
wouldn't work if you're distributing the .ps file rather than a 
printout, since anyone with a text editor could read the file directly). 
 The only workaround I could think of in that case would be to convert 
it into some impenetrable binary format (even PDF is convertable to 
text, though the average non-UNIX, non-DTP professional probably won't 
know this).

The problem with editing the .ps file is that unless you use a 
fixed-width font, it's virtually impossible to calculate the exact 
length of your blank.  I said virtually - it depends on how much of 
yur life you want to spend learning PostScript.

Robin



--
A free man ought not to learn anything under duress.
Compulsory physical exercise does no harm to the body,
but compulsory learning never sticks in the mind. - Plato

Robin Turner
IDMYO,
Bilkent University
Ankara 06533
Turkey

www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin



Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 06:19:48AM +1030, Darren Freeman wrote:
 Dear list,
 
 I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
 finished into postscript.
 
 I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
 the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
 pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.
 
 I figure this is possible in ps, just subtract text and add box objects
 - but I have no idea how to do it.
 
 Are there any editors I can get my hands on that will do that?

Perhaps Adobe Illustrator can read/write arbitrary Postscript.
Also pstoedit can convert from Postscript to other editable formats.

But perhaps the best option is to put the text you want to omit inside
\hidetext{} command, and add to the preamble 
  \usepackage{soul,texpower}
  %\newcommand{\hidetext}[1]{#1}

If you do want to show the hidden text, add a % before the first line, and
remove the % before the 2nd one.



Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Darren Freeman
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 08:15, Dekel Tsur wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 06:19:48AM +1030, Darren Freeman wrote:
  Dear list,
  
  I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
  finished into postscript.
  
  I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
  the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
  pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.
  
  I figure this is possible in ps, just subtract text and add box objects
  - but I have no idea how to do it.
  
  Are there any editors I can get my hands on that will do that?
 
 Perhaps Adobe Illustrator can read/write arbitrary Postscript.
 Also pstoedit can convert from Postscript to other editable formats.

Don't have it =(

 But perhaps the best option is to put the text you want to omit inside
 \hidetext{} command, and add to the preamble 
   \usepackage{soul,texpower}
   %\newcommand{\hidetext}[1]{#1}

Does that cause the hidden text to take up the same amount of space, or
would formatting be altered by hiding it?

Also would I need to go and look for that package or is it pretty much
standard?

 If you do want to show the hidden text, add a % before the first line, and
 remove the % before the 2nd one.

I'll try it later.. thanks

Have fun,
Darren




Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Darren Freeman
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 09:04, Robin Turner wrote:
 Les Denham wrote:
  On Monday 28 October 2002 1349 pm, Darren Freeman wrote:
  
  
 I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
 finished into postscript.
 
 I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
 the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
 pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.
 
  
  The Gimp -- but it would be rather fiddly if you have a lot of black boxes to 
  put in.
 
 You can then achieve your censoring effect by changing the background 
 colour of the text to black while still in LyX (though of course this 
 wouldn't work if you're distributing the .ps file rather than a 
 printout, since anyone with a text editor could read the file directly). 

Good idea, at the minimum I need the printout in a *hurry* to have it
bound. The rest I can sit on if need be =)

 Robin

Thanks




How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Darren Freeman
Dear list,

I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
finished into postscript.

I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.

I figure this is possible in ps, just subtract text and add box objects
- but I have no idea how to do it.

Are there any editors I can get my hands on that will do that?

Thanks heaps!

Have fun,
Darren Freeman






Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Les Denham
On Monday 28 October 2002 1349 pm, Darren Freeman wrote:

> I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
> finished into postscript.
>
> I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
> the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
> pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.
>
The Gimp -- but it would be rather fiddly if you have a lot of black boxes to 
put in.


-- 
L. R. Denham
--
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html



Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Darren Freeman
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 06:57, Les Denham wrote:
> On Monday 28 October 2002 1349 pm, Darren Freeman wrote:
> 
> > I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
> > finished into postscript.
> >
> > I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
> > the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
> > pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.
> >
> The Gimp -- but it would be rather fiddly if you have a lot of black boxes to 
> put in.

Yes it would, and it wouldn't be something you could throw at a printer
and get optimal resolution etc. Plus storing it would suck =) I'd have
to carry it on CD if I rendered to 600 dpi times 60 pages =)

What I really want is to edit the PS file itself, and save as PS without
the text that was covered up - then I could post the result on the Web
without people accessing the hidden text from the PS.

It seems like such a simple request, too! I mean, I've seen people edit
PS by hand to move things in figures, but never to the scale I'm talking
about. But it should be possible...

> L. R. Denham
> --
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> 

BTW I read the link in your signature, and I agree. I'll make a similar
(identical?) signature for myself shortly.

Have fun,
Darren




Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Robin Turner
Les Denham wrote:

On Monday 28 October 2002 1349 pm, Darren Freeman wrote:



I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
finished into postscript.

I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.



The Gimp -- but it would be rather fiddly if you have a lot of black boxes to 
put in.

You can then achieve your censoring effect by changing the background 
colour of the text to black while still in LyX (though of course this 
wouldn't work if you're distributing the .ps file rather than a 
printout, since anyone with a text editor could read the file directly). 
 The only workaround I could think of in that case would be to convert 
it into some impenetrable binary format (even PDF is convertable to 
text, though the average non-UNIX, non-DTP professional probably won't 
know this).

The problem with editing the .ps file is that unless you use a 
fixed-width font, it's virtually impossible to calculate the exact 
length of your blank.  I said "virtually" - it depends on how much of 
yur life you want to spend learning PostScript.

Robin



--
"A free man ought not to learn anything under duress.
Compulsory physical exercise does no harm to the body,
but compulsory learning never sticks in the mind." - Plato

Robin Turner
IDMYO,
Bilkent University
Ankara 06533
Turkey

www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin



Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 06:19:48AM +1030, Darren Freeman wrote:
> Dear list,
> 
> I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
> finished into postscript.
> 
> I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
> the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
> pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.
> 
> I figure this is possible in ps, just subtract text and add box objects
> - but I have no idea how to do it.
> 
> Are there any editors I can get my hands on that will do that?

Perhaps Adobe Illustrator can read/write arbitrary Postscript.
Also pstoedit can convert from Postscript to other editable formats.

But perhaps the best option is to put the text you want to omit inside
\hidetext{} command, and add to the preamble 
  \usepackage{soul,texpower}
  %\newcommand{\hidetext}[1]{#1}

If you do want to show the hidden text, add a % before the first line, and
remove the % before the 2nd one.



Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Darren Freeman
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 08:15, Dekel Tsur wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 06:19:48AM +1030, Darren Freeman wrote:
> > Dear list,
> > 
> > I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
> > finished into postscript.
> > 
> > I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
> > the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
> > pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.
> > 
> > I figure this is possible in ps, just subtract text and add box objects
> > - but I have no idea how to do it.
> > 
> > Are there any editors I can get my hands on that will do that?
> 
> Perhaps Adobe Illustrator can read/write arbitrary Postscript.
> Also pstoedit can convert from Postscript to other editable formats.

Don't have it =(

> But perhaps the best option is to put the text you want to omit inside
> \hidetext{} command, and add to the preamble 
>   \usepackage{soul,texpower}
>   %\newcommand{\hidetext}[1]{#1}

Does that cause the hidden text to take up the same amount of space, or
would formatting be altered by hiding it?

Also would I need to go and look for that package or is it pretty much
standard?

> If you do want to show the hidden text, add a % before the first line, and
> remove the % before the 2nd one.

I'll try it later.. thanks

Have fun,
Darren




Re: How to edit postscript?

2002-10-28 Thread Darren Freeman
On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 09:04, Robin Turner wrote:
> Les Denham wrote:
> > On Monday 28 October 2002 1349 pm, Darren Freeman wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>I have a document that is confidential, and I will export it when
> >>finished into postscript.
> >>
> >>I would then like to take the postscript and either put black boxes over
> >>the confidential stuff or remove it. But what remains must be
> >>pixel-accurate compared to the uncencored version - if possible.
> >>
> > 
> > The Gimp -- but it would be rather fiddly if you have a lot of black boxes to 
> > put in.
> 
> You can then achieve your censoring effect by changing the background 
> colour of the text to black while still in LyX (though of course this 
> wouldn't work if you're distributing the .ps file rather than a 
> printout, since anyone with a text editor could read the file directly). 

Good idea, at the minimum I need the printout in a *hurry* to have it
bound. The rest I can sit on if need be =)

> Robin

Thanks