Re: How to make a clone of the Enumerate environment? SOLVED

2008-07-18 Thread Steve Litt
Gunter -- your solution is exactly right. I confirmed it, and even changed the 
font of the Question environment without affecting Enumerate, which is why I 
wanted a clone in the first place.

Like you said, I have no idea why the TeX based idiom (using \let) didn't 
work, but it didn't. Your LaTeX based solution works perfectly.

Thanks very much.

SteveT

On Wednesday 16 July 2008 07:34, G. Milde wrote:
 On 14.07.08, Steve Litt wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I'm trying to make a simple clone of the Enumerate environment. Once I
  can do that, I'll make a few changes. But I've not been able to clone
  it.

 You need to clone both, LyX layout::

   Style Questions
  CopyStyle   Enumeration


 and LaTeX environment::

   \newenvironment{questions}{\begin{enumerate}}{\end{enumerate}}

  Here's my layout file:
 
  #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
  #  \DeclareLaTeXClass[book]{quizbook}
 
  Input stdclass.inc
 
  Preamble
  \let\questions = \enumerate
  \let\oldquestions = \oldenumerate
  EndPreamble

 I am not sure if this works well, as enumerate is an environment, not a
 command. Use the latex \newenvironment instead.

  Style Questions

 ...

  End

 With CopyStyle, you get all the definitions of the copied style and
 need to change only thing that should differ.

  The preceding layout produces the output shown in the attached
  screenshot_questions.gif. However, if I change the LatexName in the LyX
  environment from questions to enumerate, it outputs as shown in the
  attached screenshot_enumerate.gif.

 Describing the difference in words helps (while pics might augment
 this, they cannot always replace a description, e.g. while browsing
 this mail to see if I can help at all, I do not see the attachments.)

  Can somebody explain to me why the two don't output the same?

 no.

 Can somebody explain how I can truly clone the Enumerate environment?

 see above.

  NOTE: In order to toggle the output when switching between LatexType
  questions and LatexType enumerate, you must Tools-reconfigure and then
  terminate and restart LyX. Trust me on this -- I tried without
  reconfiguring and the output didn't toggle.

 You could define 2 Styles in your layout file (one QuestionsTest, say)
 and switch between them in the document.

 Günter


Re: How to make a clone of the Enumerate environment? SOLVED

2008-07-18 Thread rgheck

Steve Litt wrote:
Gunter -- your solution is exactly right. I confirmed it, and even changed the 
font of the Question environment without affecting Enumerate, which is why I 
wanted a clone in the first place.


Like you said, I have no idea why the TeX based idiom (using \let) didn't 
work, but it didn't. Your LaTeX based solution works perfectly.


  
\let clones COMMANDS, whereas you were trying to clone environments. 
There are, of course, commands that correspond to the environments, and 
you could probably use \let to do it that way. But Gunter's version is 
definitely preferable.


rh

Thanks very much.

SteveT

On Wednesday 16 July 2008 07:34, G. Milde wrote:
  

On 14.07.08, Steve Litt wrote:


Hi all,

I'm trying to make a simple clone of the Enumerate environment. Once I
can do that, I'll make a few changes. But I've not been able to clone
it.
  

You need to clone both, LyX layout::

  Style Questions
 CopyStyle   Enumeration


and LaTeX environment::

  \newenvironment{questions}{\begin{enumerate}}{\end{enumerate}}



Here's my layout file:

#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[book]{quizbook}

Input stdclass.inc

Preamble
\let\questions = \enumerate
\let\oldquestions = \oldenumerate
EndPreamble
  

I am not sure if this works well, as enumerate is an environment, not a
command. Use the latex \newenvironment instead.



Style Questions
  

...



End
  

With CopyStyle, you get all the definitions of the copied style and
need to change only thing that should differ.



The preceding layout produces the output shown in the attached
screenshot_questions.gif. However, if I change the LatexName in the LyX
environment from questions to enumerate, it outputs as shown in the
attached screenshot_enumerate.gif.
  

Describing the difference in words helps (while pics might augment
this, they cannot always replace a description, e.g. while browsing
this mail to see if I can help at all, I do not see the attachments.)



Can somebody explain to me why the two don't output the same?
  

no.



Can somebody explain how I can truly clone the Enumerate environment?
  

see above.



NOTE: In order to toggle the output when switching between LatexType
questions and LatexType enumerate, you must Tools-reconfigure and then
terminate and restart LyX. Trust me on this -- I tried without
reconfiguring and the output didn't toggle.
  

You could define 2 Styles in your layout file (one QuestionsTest, say)
and switch between them in the document.

Günter





Re: How to make a clone of the Enumerate environment? SOLVED

2008-07-18 Thread Steve Litt
Gunter -- your solution is exactly right. I confirmed it, and even changed the 
font of the Question environment without affecting Enumerate, which is why I 
wanted a clone in the first place.

Like you said, I have no idea why the TeX based idiom (using \let) didn't 
work, but it didn't. Your LaTeX based solution works perfectly.

Thanks very much.

SteveT

On Wednesday 16 July 2008 07:34, G. Milde wrote:
 On 14.07.08, Steve Litt wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I'm trying to make a simple clone of the Enumerate environment. Once I
  can do that, I'll make a few changes. But I've not been able to clone
  it.

 You need to clone both, LyX layout::

   Style Questions
  CopyStyle   Enumeration


 and LaTeX environment::

   \newenvironment{questions}{\begin{enumerate}}{\end{enumerate}}

  Here's my layout file:
 
  #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
  #  \DeclareLaTeXClass[book]{quizbook}
 
  Input stdclass.inc
 
  Preamble
  \let\questions = \enumerate
  \let\oldquestions = \oldenumerate
  EndPreamble

 I am not sure if this works well, as enumerate is an environment, not a
 command. Use the latex \newenvironment instead.

  Style Questions

 ...

  End

 With CopyStyle, you get all the definitions of the copied style and
 need to change only thing that should differ.

  The preceding layout produces the output shown in the attached
  screenshot_questions.gif. However, if I change the LatexName in the LyX
  environment from questions to enumerate, it outputs as shown in the
  attached screenshot_enumerate.gif.

 Describing the difference in words helps (while pics might augment
 this, they cannot always replace a description, e.g. while browsing
 this mail to see if I can help at all, I do not see the attachments.)

  Can somebody explain to me why the two don't output the same?

 no.

 Can somebody explain how I can truly clone the Enumerate environment?

 see above.

  NOTE: In order to toggle the output when switching between LatexType
  questions and LatexType enumerate, you must Tools-reconfigure and then
  terminate and restart LyX. Trust me on this -- I tried without
  reconfiguring and the output didn't toggle.

 You could define 2 Styles in your layout file (one QuestionsTest, say)
 and switch between them in the document.

 Günter


Re: How to make a clone of the Enumerate environment? SOLVED

2008-07-18 Thread rgheck

Steve Litt wrote:
Gunter -- your solution is exactly right. I confirmed it, and even changed the 
font of the Question environment without affecting Enumerate, which is why I 
wanted a clone in the first place.


Like you said, I have no idea why the TeX based idiom (using \let) didn't 
work, but it didn't. Your LaTeX based solution works perfectly.


  
\let clones COMMANDS, whereas you were trying to clone environments. 
There are, of course, commands that correspond to the environments, and 
you could probably use \let to do it that way. But Gunter's version is 
definitely preferable.


rh

Thanks very much.

SteveT

On Wednesday 16 July 2008 07:34, G. Milde wrote:
  

On 14.07.08, Steve Litt wrote:


Hi all,

I'm trying to make a simple clone of the Enumerate environment. Once I
can do that, I'll make a few changes. But I've not been able to clone
it.
  

You need to clone both, LyX layout::

  Style Questions
 CopyStyle   Enumeration


and LaTeX environment::

  \newenvironment{questions}{\begin{enumerate}}{\end{enumerate}}



Here's my layout file:

#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
#  \DeclareLaTeXClass[book]{quizbook}

Input stdclass.inc

Preamble
\let\questions = \enumerate
\let\oldquestions = \oldenumerate
EndPreamble
  

I am not sure if this works well, as enumerate is an environment, not a
command. Use the latex \newenvironment instead.



Style Questions
  

...



End
  

With CopyStyle, you get all the definitions of the copied style and
need to change only thing that should differ.



The preceding layout produces the output shown in the attached
screenshot_questions.gif. However, if I change the LatexName in the LyX
environment from questions to enumerate, it outputs as shown in the
attached screenshot_enumerate.gif.
  

Describing the difference in words helps (while pics might augment
this, they cannot always replace a description, e.g. while browsing
this mail to see if I can help at all, I do not see the attachments.)



Can somebody explain to me why the two don't output the same?
  

no.



Can somebody explain how I can truly clone the Enumerate environment?
  

see above.



NOTE: In order to toggle the output when switching between LatexType
questions and LatexType enumerate, you must Tools-reconfigure and then
terminate and restart LyX. Trust me on this -- I tried without
reconfiguring and the output didn't toggle.
  

You could define 2 Styles in your layout file (one QuestionsTest, say)
and switch between them in the document.

Günter