Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

On 19.03.2018 18:14, Emile Lunardon wrote: I don't remember seeing the possibility to install LyX without LaTeX (I'll have to change my glasses !), but I want to trust you on this point ! In this case, I would be more than happy to agree with your analysis. I had to check myself to be sure.

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

I don't remember seeing the possibility to install LyX without LaTeX (I'll have to change my glasses !), but I want to trust you on this point ! In this case, I would be more than happy to agree with your analysis. 2018-03-19 17:16 GMT+01:00 racoon : > On 19.03.2018 00:41, emile

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

On 19.03.2018 00:41, emile lunardon wrote: Miktex 2.9 or later is mandatory to compile LyX document but if LyX is used to simply generate LyX document  (or LaTeX  document) without compiling it, we should not forbid this use. So I would suggest to install LyX in all cases and if need be, to

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

I would be in disagreement with Charles. Lyx has a massive range of users from latex experts to novices. Power users will be incredibly upset if Lyx does something that changes a working configuration without notifying them first. It is even more important to get it right before release since it

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 10:27:25PM +, Charles Roddie wrote: > What matters most of all is a release. I understand that Windows release has > been held up by extensive discussions over this issue of whether to include a > dialog. This is a minor issue as few people read dialogs. Having a

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

Miktex 2.9 or later is mandatory to compile LyX document but if LyX is used to simply generate LyX document (or LaTeX document) without compiling it, we should not forbid this use. So I would suggest to install LyX in all cases and if need be, to give the choice to the user either to upgrade

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

What matters most of all is a release. I understand that Windows release has been held up by extensive discussions over this issue of whether to include a dialog. This is a minor issue as few people read dialogs. Having a dialog is fine, and not having a dialog is fine. Not having a version

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 02:58:34PM +, Benedict Holland wrote: > I would say that the only people who would update MiKTeX outside of a Lyx > install are power users. > > I would simply state something like: > > Lyx requires MikTeX 2.9 or later. Your version is X.X. Chose "Continue" to >

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:37:10PM +, חיים רוזנר wrote: > Scott Kostyshak : > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:44:21AM +, Bernt Lie wrote: > > > > A naïve user who is not well versed in MikTeX may start to wonder how one > updates MikTeX. > > > > I would find it useful that

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:52:46PM +, חיים רוזנר wrote: > haim.ros...@gmail.com: > > How about this: > This version of LyX needs MikTeX v. ? at least. The installer found only > earlier version of MikTeX / The installer could not find any installation > of MikTeX on your system. > And the

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

I would say that the only people who would update MiKTeX outside of a Lyx install are power users. I would simply state something like: Lyx requires MikTeX 2.9 or later. Your version is X.X. Chose "Continue" to automatically update MiKTeX to version X.X or cancel the LyX installation and update

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

haim.ros...@gmail.com: How about this: This version of LyX needs MikTeX v. ? at least. The installer found only earlier version of MikTeX / The installer could not find any installation of MikTeX on your system. And the buttons shall read 'Cancel' and 'Update MikTeX and install LyX' or 'Install

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

Scott Kostyshak : On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:44:21AM +, Bernt Lie wrote: > > A naïve user who is not well versed in MikTeX may start to wonder how one updates MikTeX. > > I would find it useful that the dialog makes it possible to start MikTeX updating. If the user clicks

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:32:53AM +, Baris Erkus wrote: > My recommendation is to completely remove the LyX capability of updating > MikTeX or switching to MikTeX updater. I always had an issue with this. > Instead LyX can check the version of MikTeX and if it does not fit to certain >

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:44:21AM +, Bernt Lie wrote: > > A naïve user who is not well versed in MikTeX may start to wonder how one > updates MikTeX. > > I would find it useful that the dialog makes it possible to start MikTeX > updating. If the user clicks on "Continue", then the LyX

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 01:14:00AM +, steve_...@optusnet.com.au wrote: > > Hi Scott, > > I think it's a bit wordy > > How about: > >   The LyX installer is going to update MiKTeX to the newest > 2.9 >   version. > >   If you use MiKTeX with other applications and do not want

RE: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

018 11:33 To: LyX Users <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> Subject: RE: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing? My recommendation is to completely remove the LyX capability of updating MikTeX or switching to MikTeX updater. I always had an issue with this. Instead LyX can check the versi

RE: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

com.au<mailto:steve_...@optusnet.com.au> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:14 AM To: Scott Kostyshak<mailto:skost...@lyx.org>; LyX Users<mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> Subject: Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing? Hi Scott, I think it's a bit wordy How about:

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

Hi Scott, I think it's a bit wordy How about:   The LyX installer is going to update MiKTeX to the newest 2.9   version.   If you use MiKTeX with other applications and do not want to update   now, or want to perform the update yourself, cancel the LyX installation.  

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

On 03/13/2018 07:03 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:21:17PM +, Paul A. Rubin wrote: I think the dialog is clear enough in what it says, but it leaves unanswered the question of whether LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9, or whether it will work with an existing installation of

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:21:17PM +, Paul A. Rubin wrote: > I think the dialog is clear enough in what it says, but it leaves unanswered > the question of whether LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9, or whether it will work > with an existing installation of an earlier version. One might infer from >

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

On 03/13/2018 06:13 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: Dear all, I would appreciate your help on an issue that is holding up the release of LyX 2.3.0. We are considering to add the following dialog at the beginning of the LyX 2.3.0 Windows installer: The LyX installer is going to update MiKTeX

Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

Dear all, I would appreciate your help on an issue that is holding up the release of LyX 2.3.0. We are considering to add the following dialog at the beginning of the LyX 2.3.0 Windows installer: The LyX installer is going to update MiKTeX to the newest 2.9 version. If you do not use