Re: KOMA-Script Report: titlehead and title on two pages [FIXED]

2019-08-20 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 8/20/19 2:29 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Tue, 20 Aug 2019, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


The "Default margins" setting means use /class/ defaults, not paper size
defaults. The user guide claims that KOMA Script formats will calculate
margins based on paper size, but if that is happening (iffy) it is not
proving helpful. I manually put 1" margins all around and compiled, 
and it

looks correct (or at least better) to my somewhat noncritical eye.


Paul,

Son-of-a-gun. I missed seeing in the KOMA Script doc that page margins 
are

set by class, not paper size. And, while I _thought_ I had changed all
margins to 1", I had apparently not done so.

Made the margin size changes and that did fix the problem.

Many thanks,

Rich

It's actually not in the KOMA Script docs ... nor in the LyX docs that I 
can find. If you hover over the check box for using default margins, the 
tool tip gives it away.


You're welcome,
Paul



Re: KOMA-Script Report: titlehead and title on two pages [FIXED]

2019-08-20 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 20 Aug 2019, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


The "Default margins" setting means use /class/ defaults, not paper size
defaults. The user guide claims that KOMA Script formats will calculate
margins based on paper size, but if that is happening (iffy) it is not
proving helpful. I manually put 1" margins all around and compiled, and it
looks correct (or at least better) to my somewhat noncritical eye.


Paul,

Son-of-a-gun. I missed seeing in the KOMA Script doc that page margins are
set by class, not paper size. And, while I _thought_ I had changed all
margins to 1", I had apparently not done so.

Made the margin size changes and that did fix the problem.

Many thanks,

Rich



Re: KOMA-Script Report: titlehead and title on two pages

2019-08-20 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 8/19/19 6:01 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:

On Mon, 19 Aug 2019, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


I'm not sure how you got even more whitespace above the logo, but in any
case 145 for top y strikes me as too big.

Here's my version (edited LyX file and exported PDF). Notable changes 
I made:


* I changed the graphic path to a relative path to the enclosed PDF
  image. (Your MWE included the image but the graphic path was an
  absolute path on your system.)
* I changed the top right y value. You can go a bit smaller than what
  I put in, but not much. Note that this screws up the preview in the
  LyX window, but as you can see the image looks okay in the PDF output.
* There was still more whitespace above the logo than seemed
  reasonable to me, which is likely some KOMA setting. I don't use
  KOMA, so I cheated and stuck in some negative vertical space above
  the image. Feel free to adjust or omit.
* This gets the image, title and date on the same page, but the
  content still starts on page 2. Again, that's probably a KOMA thing.


Paul,

It's an issue with lyx-2.3.3 on the Ryzen7 desktop. See the PDF in the
attached tarball. (I recompiled and reinstalled the application but it 
made

no difference.)

Looking at the .lyx file I saw the page size in the preamble still at 
6.5"
width x 9.5" height despite the setting having the US Letter box 
checked and

the other values greyed out. I removed those values and the lyx file
preamble now shows paperletter for the size.

I also removed the custom margins (despite the 'use default' checkbox 
being

checked) and now I don't see specific margins in the .lyx file

The compiled PDF has the letterhead, title, author, date, and 
introduction

all on page 1. But, the text width and height are those of a 6" x 9" book
layout, not letter size layout.

I'm not seeing the reason why.

Regards,

Rich

Rich,

The "Default margins" setting means use /class/ defaults, not paper size 
defaults. The user guide claims that KOMA Script formats will calculate 
margins based on paper size, but if that is happening (iffy) it is not 
proving helpful. I manually put 1" margins all around and compiled, and 
it looks correct (or at least better) to my somewhat noncritical eye.


Paul



Re: KOMA-Script Report: titlehead and title on two pages

2019-08-19 Thread Rich Shepard

On Mon, 19 Aug 2019, Rich Shepard wrote:


Now I do: mwe.lyx is a KOMA-script report and mwe2.lyx is a KOMA-Script
article. But, I've used the report layout with the letterhead in the past
and it's worked.


Partially fixed: I changed the page layout to US letter and set margins to
default.

Deleted the PDF image and re-loaded it.

Exited LyX, then restarted it.

Now the letterhead, title, etc. are on the same page, but still using the
custom layout of 6" x 9" rather than 8.5" x 11". I'm not seeing any other
differences.

Will keep looking.

Rich


Re: KOMA-Script Report: titlehead and title on two pages

2019-08-19 Thread Rich Shepard

On Mon, 19 Aug 2019, Rich Shepard wrote:


I don't see how the two .lyx files differ so the first doesn't appear like
the second.


Now I do: mwe.lyx is a KOMA-script report and mwe2.lyx is a KOMA-Script
article. But, I've used the report layout with the letterhead in the past
and it's worked.

Rich


Re: KOMA-Script Report: titlehead and title on two pages

2019-08-19 Thread Rich Shepard

On Mon, 19 Aug 2019, Rich Shepard wrote:


I've shrunk the size (x,y) to
bottom: 85,15
top:525,145
and this eliminates all surrounding white space.

The compiled mwe.pdf is attached.


Attached is another example, mwe2.lyx and mwe3.pdf. Same letterhead PDF with
default coordinate settings and the width set to 100% text width.

I don't see how the two .lyx files differ so the first doesn't appear like
the second.

Rich


mwe2.tgz
Description: GNU Zip compressed data


Re: KOMA-Script Report: titlehead and title on two pages

2019-08-19 Thread Paul A. Rubin

On 8/19/19 1:00 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:

Here LyX-2.3.3 runs on Slackware-14.2.

Commonly, when I put the company letterhead (titlehead environment) above
the report title and set the size at 100% of text width the letterhead is
immediately followed by the title, date, and beginning of the document 
body

text. This current report does not follow this pattern.

When I preview the attached mwe.lyx the letterhead is on page 1, the 
title

and data on page 2, and the introduction on page 3.

I need to learn why this happens and how to both fix it here and prevent
recurrence in future reports.

Need more information? Ask and you shall be given answers.

TIA,

Rich

Rich,

I think your titlehead PDF gizmo has too much whitespace baked into it. 
I tinkered with the bounding box settings in the graphics inset, 
changing the right-top y value to 75 (originally 157). The PDF looked 
okay to me. In fact, I tried 55 and the PDF still looked good. So I'd 
suggest seasoning that to taste.


Paul



Re: KOMA-Script Report: titlehead and title on two pages

2019-08-19 Thread Rich Shepard

On Mon, 19 Aug 2019, Rich Shepard wrote:


Reading the KOMA doc scrguiden.pdf might give some answers.

Okay.


Guenter,

I read sections found searching for 'titlehead' and saw nothing of use. I
must have missed what you found.


Experimenting with the size (especially hight) of the letterhead, too.


I shortened the width (removing the white space on the left edge) and the
image would not display at all. Will try the height.


I changed coordinates for the image and tried various heights (leaving the
width set to 100% text width). The only results were either a vertically
compressed image or a slightly compress image with the title, author name,
and date on that page; body text started on the next page. (This would be
acceptable but I need the letterhead full height even with coordinates
trimmed to eliminate white space.)

Regards,

Rich


Re: KOMA-Script Report: titlehead and title on two pages

2019-08-19 Thread Rich Shepard

On Mon, 19 Aug 2019, Guenter Milde wrote:


Reading the KOMA doc scrguiden.pdf might give some answers.


Guenter,

Okay.


Experimenting with the size (especially hight) of the letterhead, too.


I shortened the width (removing the white space on the left edge) and the
image would not display at all. Will try the height.

Thanks,

Rich


Re: KOMA-Script Report: titlehead and title on two pages

2019-08-19 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2019-08-19, Rich Shepard wrote:

> [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding:  --]

> Here LyX-2.3.3 runs on Slackware-14.2.

> Commonly, when I put the company letterhead (titlehead environment) above
> the report title and set the size at 100% of text width the letterhead is
> immediately followed by the title, date, and beginning of the document body
> text. This current report does not follow this pattern.

> When I preview the attached mwe.lyx the letterhead is on page 1, the title
> and data on page 2, and the introduction on page 3.

> I need to learn why this happens and how to both fix it here and prevent
> recurrence in future reports.

> Need more information? Ask and you shall be given answers.

Reading the KOMA doc scrguiden.pdf might give some answers.

Experimenting with the size (especially hight) of the letterhead, too.

Günter



Re: KOMA-Script Report: titlehead and title on two pages

2019-08-19 Thread Rich Shepard

On Mon, 19 Aug 2019, Rich Shepard wrote:


and data on page 2, and the introduction on page 3.

 ^ e

That should be date, not data.

Rich