Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-02 Thread Christopher Stowasser
I sorry, but I don't understand your answer completely. I want to give my
equations numbers, i.e. from (1.1), (1.2),.to (3.3.) f. ex.. Is that the
purpose of the label function? If not, what function doe that?

To the first part of your answer. The equations I want to label are centered
and stand alone in their row. I centered them after writing them by using
the paragraph settings.

To your answer Bob: I am using a mac book with Mach OS X  version
10.5.3.The version of LyX I am using is LyX/Mac
1.5.5.

Thank you again very much for your help.

Greetings,
Chris

2008/8/1 rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Bob Lounsbury wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Christopher Stowasser
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it.
 What
 I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in
 the
 normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
 the math box  the label function is inactive.  Therefore I cannot label
 the
 equation in the math box.  As long as I cannot asign a label to the
 equation
 it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.




 It sounds as if you have a problem with the installation of LyX. This
 is obviously not normal behavior. I would trying reinstalling LyX. It
 may help developer's to know what platform you are using and what
 version of LyX. You may also need to file a bug report if reinstalling
 doesn't help.



 I see it disabled as well, UNLESS the equation is in display mode---i.e.,
 centered by itself on a separate line. It is meant to work that way. The
 reason is that labeled equations are also NUMBERED equations, and the
 mechanism that's used to do the label isn't available if the equation hasn't
 been set off.

 Perhaps part of the confusion is that what LyX calls labels don't
 normally appear in the text. They're just targets for cross-references. So
 you can label the equation if you like by putting a label after it. But it
 won't have a number, and the only cross-reference you'll be able to do will
 be by page, really.

 rh




-- 
Christopher Stowasser
Nørrebrogade 100, 2 TH
2200 København N
Danmark


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-02 Thread Bob Lounsbury
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Christopher Stowasser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I sorry, but I don't understand your answer completely. I want to give my
 equations numbers, i.e. from (1.1), (1.2),.to (3.3.) f. ex.. Is that the
 purpose of the label function? If not, what function doe that?

 To the first part of your answer. The equations I want to label are centered
 and stand alone in their row. I centered them after writing them by using
 the paragraph settings.

 To your answer Bob: I am using a mac book with Mach OS X  version 10.5.3.
 The version of LyX I am using is LyX/Mac 1.5.5.

 Thank you again very much for your help.

 Greetings,
 Chris


Ok. I understand now. You're just not using the program correctly :-}.

Math equations are not adjusted with 'paragraph settings'. There are
two types of equations in LyX: Inline and Display. Inline is an
equation that is inline with text and Display is an equation centered
on its own line.

To access the two types use: Insert-Math-Inline Formula or Display
Formula. Alternatively, you can use Command-M for Inline formula and
Command+shift-M for Display formula on MacOSX.

You may also want to take some time to read through some of the
documentation available in the Help menu. For instance: Help-User's
Guide Chapter 5 or Help-Math. These issues are explained there.

Cheers,
/Bob


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-02 Thread Bob Lounsbury
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Christopher Stowasser
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I sorry, but I don't understand your answer completely. I want to give my
 equations numbers, i.e. from (1.1), (1.2),.to (3.3.) f. ex.. Is that the
 purpose of the label function? If not, what function doe that?

 To the first part of your answer. The equations I want to label are centered
 and stand alone in their row. I centered them after writing them by using
 the paragraph settings.

 To your answer Bob: I am using a mac book with Mach OS X  version 10.5.3.
 The version of LyX I am using is LyX/Mac 1.5.5.

 Thank you again very much for your help.

 Greetings,
 Chris


 Ok. I understand now. You're just not using the program correctly :-}.

 Math equations are not adjusted with 'paragraph settings'. There are
 two types of equations in LyX: Inline and Display. Inline is an
 equation that is inline with text and Display is an equation centered
 on its own line.

 To access the two types use: Insert-Math-Inline Formula or Display
 Formula. Alternatively, you can use Command-M for Inline formula and
 Command+shift-M for Display formula on MacOSX.

 You may also want to take some time to read through some of the
 documentation available in the Help menu. For instance: Help-User's
 Guide Chapter 5 or Help-Math. These issues are explained there.

 Cheers,
 /Bob


Oops, I forgot to add that Inline formula cannot be labeled whereas
Display formula can. This is why the Label button is grayed out
because you've inserted Inline formula not Display formula.

Cheers,
/Bob


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-02 Thread Christopher Stowasser
Ok, now it works perfectly! Thanks you two. Its so much text to read in this
help guides...

Have a nice weekend!

2008/8/2 Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Christopher Stowasser
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I sorry, but I don't understand your answer completely. I want to give my
  equations numbers, i.e. from (1.1), (1.2),.to (3.3.) f. ex.. Is that
 the
  purpose of the label function? If not, what function doe that?
 
  To the first part of your answer. The equations I want to label are
 centered
  and stand alone in their row. I centered them after writing them by using
  the paragraph settings.
 
  To your answer Bob: I am using a mac book with Mach OS X  version
 10.5.3.
  The version of LyX I am using is LyX/Mac 1.5.5.
 
  Thank you again very much for your help.
 
  Greetings,
  Chris
 

 Ok. I understand now. You're just not using the program correctly :-}.

 Math equations are not adjusted with 'paragraph settings'. There are
 two types of equations in LyX: Inline and Display. Inline is an
 equation that is inline with text and Display is an equation centered
 on its own line.

 To access the two types use: Insert-Math-Inline Formula or Display
 Formula. Alternatively, you can use Command-M for Inline formula and
 Command+shift-M for Display formula on MacOSX.

 You may also want to take some time to read through some of the
 documentation available in the Help menu. For instance: Help-User's
 Guide Chapter 5 or Help-Math. These issues are explained there.

 Cheers,
 /Bob




-- 
Christopher Stowasser
Nørrebrogade 100, 2 TH
2200 København N
Danmark


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-02 Thread rgheck

Christopher Stowasser wrote:

Ok, now it works perfectly! Thanks you two. Its so much text to read in this
help guides...

  
Yes, true. People---especially Uwe---have put a lot of work into those 
guides. Much of what's in them you probably don't need to know, so I 
usually recommend that people read the Tutorial fairly closely, and then 
read the User's Guide quickly, just skimming parts that don't really 
interest them. The other manuals contain tons of useful 
information---but not for everyone, since they're more specialized. I've 
never read the Embedded Objects manual, for example, since it basically 
doesn't apply to me. Remember too that you can use the Navigate menu, or 
open the Outline, to see a table of contents and decide what you might 
want to read. Oh, and that you can ViewPDF and then print the manuals 
so you don't have to read them at your computer.


rh



Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-02 Thread Christopher Stowasser
I sorry, but I don't understand your answer completely. I want to give my
equations numbers, i.e. from (1.1), (1.2),.to (3.3.) f. ex.. Is that the
purpose of the label function? If not, what function doe that?

To the first part of your answer. The equations I want to label are centered
and stand alone in their row. I centered them after writing them by using
the paragraph settings.

To your answer Bob: I am using a mac book with Mach OS X  version
10.5.3.The version of LyX I am using is LyX/Mac
1.5.5.

Thank you again very much for your help.

Greetings,
Chris

2008/8/1 rgheck [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Bob Lounsbury wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Christopher Stowasser
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it.
 What
 I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in
 the
 normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
 the math box  the label function is inactive.  Therefore I cannot label
 the
 equation in the math box.  As long as I cannot asign a label to the
 equation
 it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.




 It sounds as if you have a problem with the installation of LyX. This
 is obviously not normal behavior. I would trying reinstalling LyX. It
 may help developer's to know what platform you are using and what
 version of LyX. You may also need to file a bug report if reinstalling
 doesn't help.



 I see it disabled as well, UNLESS the equation is in display mode---i.e.,
 centered by itself on a separate line. It is meant to work that way. The
 reason is that labeled equations are also NUMBERED equations, and the
 mechanism that's used to do the label isn't available if the equation hasn't
 been set off.

 Perhaps part of the confusion is that what LyX calls labels don't
 normally appear in the text. They're just targets for cross-references. So
 you can label the equation if you like by putting a label after it. But it
 won't have a number, and the only cross-reference you'll be able to do will
 be by page, really.

 rh




-- 
Christopher Stowasser
Nørrebrogade 100, 2 TH
2200 København N
Danmark


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-02 Thread Bob Lounsbury
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Christopher Stowasser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I sorry, but I don't understand your answer completely. I want to give my
 equations numbers, i.e. from (1.1), (1.2),.to (3.3.) f. ex.. Is that the
 purpose of the label function? If not, what function doe that?

 To the first part of your answer. The equations I want to label are centered
 and stand alone in their row. I centered them after writing them by using
 the paragraph settings.

 To your answer Bob: I am using a mac book with Mach OS X  version 10.5.3.
 The version of LyX I am using is LyX/Mac 1.5.5.

 Thank you again very much for your help.

 Greetings,
 Chris


Ok. I understand now. You're just not using the program correctly :-}.

Math equations are not adjusted with 'paragraph settings'. There are
two types of equations in LyX: Inline and Display. Inline is an
equation that is inline with text and Display is an equation centered
on its own line.

To access the two types use: Insert-Math-Inline Formula or Display
Formula. Alternatively, you can use Command-M for Inline formula and
Command+shift-M for Display formula on MacOSX.

You may also want to take some time to read through some of the
documentation available in the Help menu. For instance: Help-User's
Guide Chapter 5 or Help-Math. These issues are explained there.

Cheers,
/Bob


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-02 Thread Bob Lounsbury
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Christopher Stowasser
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I sorry, but I don't understand your answer completely. I want to give my
 equations numbers, i.e. from (1.1), (1.2),.to (3.3.) f. ex.. Is that the
 purpose of the label function? If not, what function doe that?

 To the first part of your answer. The equations I want to label are centered
 and stand alone in their row. I centered them after writing them by using
 the paragraph settings.

 To your answer Bob: I am using a mac book with Mach OS X  version 10.5.3.
 The version of LyX I am using is LyX/Mac 1.5.5.

 Thank you again very much for your help.

 Greetings,
 Chris


 Ok. I understand now. You're just not using the program correctly :-}.

 Math equations are not adjusted with 'paragraph settings'. There are
 two types of equations in LyX: Inline and Display. Inline is an
 equation that is inline with text and Display is an equation centered
 on its own line.

 To access the two types use: Insert-Math-Inline Formula or Display
 Formula. Alternatively, you can use Command-M for Inline formula and
 Command+shift-M for Display formula on MacOSX.

 You may also want to take some time to read through some of the
 documentation available in the Help menu. For instance: Help-User's
 Guide Chapter 5 or Help-Math. These issues are explained there.

 Cheers,
 /Bob


Oops, I forgot to add that Inline formula cannot be labeled whereas
Display formula can. This is why the Label button is grayed out
because you've inserted Inline formula not Display formula.

Cheers,
/Bob


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-02 Thread Christopher Stowasser
Ok, now it works perfectly! Thanks you two. Its so much text to read in this
help guides...

Have a nice weekend!

2008/8/2 Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Christopher Stowasser
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I sorry, but I don't understand your answer completely. I want to give my
  equations numbers, i.e. from (1.1), (1.2),.to (3.3.) f. ex.. Is that
 the
  purpose of the label function? If not, what function doe that?
 
  To the first part of your answer. The equations I want to label are
 centered
  and stand alone in their row. I centered them after writing them by using
  the paragraph settings.
 
  To your answer Bob: I am using a mac book with Mach OS X  version
 10.5.3.
  The version of LyX I am using is LyX/Mac 1.5.5.
 
  Thank you again very much for your help.
 
  Greetings,
  Chris
 

 Ok. I understand now. You're just not using the program correctly :-}.

 Math equations are not adjusted with 'paragraph settings'. There are
 two types of equations in LyX: Inline and Display. Inline is an
 equation that is inline with text and Display is an equation centered
 on its own line.

 To access the two types use: Insert-Math-Inline Formula or Display
 Formula. Alternatively, you can use Command-M for Inline formula and
 Command+shift-M for Display formula on MacOSX.

 You may also want to take some time to read through some of the
 documentation available in the Help menu. For instance: Help-User's
 Guide Chapter 5 or Help-Math. These issues are explained there.

 Cheers,
 /Bob




-- 
Christopher Stowasser
Nørrebrogade 100, 2 TH
2200 København N
Danmark


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-02 Thread rgheck

Christopher Stowasser wrote:

Ok, now it works perfectly! Thanks you two. Its so much text to read in this
help guides...

  
Yes, true. People---especially Uwe---have put a lot of work into those 
guides. Much of what's in them you probably don't need to know, so I 
usually recommend that people read the Tutorial fairly closely, and then 
read the User's Guide quickly, just skimming parts that don't really 
interest them. The other manuals contain tons of useful 
information---but not for everyone, since they're more specialized. I've 
never read the Embedded Objects manual, for example, since it basically 
doesn't apply to me. Remember too that you can use the Navigate menu, or 
open the Outline, to see a table of contents and decide what you might 
want to read. Oh, and that you can ViewPDF and then print the manuals 
so you don't have to read them at your computer.


rh



Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-02 Thread Christopher Stowasser
I sorry, but I don't understand your answer completely. I want to give my
equations numbers, i.e. from (1.1), (1.2),.to (3.3.) f. ex.. Is that the
purpose of the label function? If not, what function doe that?

To the first part of your answer. The equations I want to label are centered
and stand alone in their row. I centered them after writing them by using
the "paragraph settings".

To your answer Bob: I am using a mac book with Mach OS X  version
10.5.3.The version of LyX I am using is LyX/Mac
1.5.5.

Thank you again very much for your help.

Greetings,
Chris

2008/8/1 rgheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Bob Lounsbury wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Christopher Stowasser
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it.
>>> What
>>> I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in
>>> the
>>> normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
>>> the math box  the label function is inactive.  Therefore I cannot label
>>> the
>>> equation in the math box.  As long as I cannot asign a label to the
>>> equation
>>> it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> It sounds as if you have a problem with the installation of LyX. This
>> is obviously not normal behavior. I would trying reinstalling LyX. It
>> may help developer's to know what platform you are using and what
>> version of LyX. You may also need to file a bug report if reinstalling
>> doesn't help.
>>
>>
>>
> I see it disabled as well, UNLESS the equation is in "display" mode---i.e.,
> centered by itself on a separate line. It is meant to work that way. The
> reason is that labeled equations are also NUMBERED equations, and the
> mechanism that's used to do the label isn't available if the equation hasn't
> been set off.
>
> Perhaps part of the confusion is that what LyX calls "labels" don't
> normally appear in the text. They're just targets for cross-references. So
> you can label the equation if you like by putting a label after it. But it
> won't have a number, and the only cross-reference you'll be able to do will
> be by page, really.
>
> rh
>
>


-- 
Christopher Stowasser
Nørrebrogade 100, 2 TH
2200 København N
Danmark


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-02 Thread Bob Lounsbury
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Christopher Stowasser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I sorry, but I don't understand your answer completely. I want to give my
> equations numbers, i.e. from (1.1), (1.2),.to (3.3.) f. ex.. Is that the
> purpose of the label function? If not, what function doe that?
>
> To the first part of your answer. The equations I want to label are centered
> and stand alone in their row. I centered them after writing them by using
> the "paragraph settings".
>
> To your answer Bob: I am using a mac book with Mach OS X  version 10.5.3.
> The version of LyX I am using is LyX/Mac 1.5.5.
>
> Thank you again very much for your help.
>
> Greetings,
> Chris
>

Ok. I understand now. You're just not using the program correctly :-}.

Math equations are not adjusted with 'paragraph settings'. There are
two types of equations in LyX: Inline and Display. Inline is an
equation that is inline with text and Display is an equation centered
on its own line.

To access the two types use: Insert->Math->Inline Formula or Display
Formula. Alternatively, you can use Command->M for Inline formula and
Command+shift->M for Display formula on MacOSX.

You may also want to take some time to read through some of the
documentation available in the Help menu. For instance: Help->User's
Guide Chapter 5 or Help->Math. These issues are explained there.

Cheers,
/Bob


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-02 Thread Bob Lounsbury
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Bob Lounsbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Christopher Stowasser
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I sorry, but I don't understand your answer completely. I want to give my
>> equations numbers, i.e. from (1.1), (1.2),.to (3.3.) f. ex.. Is that the
>> purpose of the label function? If not, what function doe that?
>>
>> To the first part of your answer. The equations I want to label are centered
>> and stand alone in their row. I centered them after writing them by using
>> the "paragraph settings".
>>
>> To your answer Bob: I am using a mac book with Mach OS X  version 10.5.3.
>> The version of LyX I am using is LyX/Mac 1.5.5.
>>
>> Thank you again very much for your help.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Chris
>>
>
> Ok. I understand now. You're just not using the program correctly :-}.
>
> Math equations are not adjusted with 'paragraph settings'. There are
> two types of equations in LyX: Inline and Display. Inline is an
> equation that is inline with text and Display is an equation centered
> on its own line.
>
> To access the two types use: Insert->Math->Inline Formula or Display
> Formula. Alternatively, you can use Command->M for Inline formula and
> Command+shift->M for Display formula on MacOSX.
>
> You may also want to take some time to read through some of the
> documentation available in the Help menu. For instance: Help->User's
> Guide Chapter 5 or Help->Math. These issues are explained there.
>
> Cheers,
> /Bob
>

Oops, I forgot to add that Inline formula cannot be labeled whereas
Display formula can. This is why the Label button is grayed out
because you've inserted Inline formula not Display formula.

Cheers,
/Bob


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-02 Thread Christopher Stowasser
Ok, now it works perfectly! Thanks you two. Its so much text to read in this
help guides...

Have a nice weekend!

2008/8/2 Bob Lounsbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Christopher Stowasser
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I sorry, but I don't understand your answer completely. I want to give my
> > equations numbers, i.e. from (1.1), (1.2),.to (3.3.) f. ex.. Is that
> the
> > purpose of the label function? If not, what function doe that?
> >
> > To the first part of your answer. The equations I want to label are
> centered
> > and stand alone in their row. I centered them after writing them by using
> > the "paragraph settings".
> >
> > To your answer Bob: I am using a mac book with Mach OS X  version
> 10.5.3.
> > The version of LyX I am using is LyX/Mac 1.5.5.
> >
> > Thank you again very much for your help.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Chris
> >
>
> Ok. I understand now. You're just not using the program correctly :-}.
>
> Math equations are not adjusted with 'paragraph settings'. There are
> two types of equations in LyX: Inline and Display. Inline is an
> equation that is inline with text and Display is an equation centered
> on its own line.
>
> To access the two types use: Insert->Math->Inline Formula or Display
> Formula. Alternatively, you can use Command->M for Inline formula and
> Command+shift->M for Display formula on MacOSX.
>
> You may also want to take some time to read through some of the
> documentation available in the Help menu. For instance: Help->User's
> Guide Chapter 5 or Help->Math. These issues are explained there.
>
> Cheers,
> /Bob
>



-- 
Christopher Stowasser
Nørrebrogade 100, 2 TH
2200 København N
Danmark


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-02 Thread rgheck

Christopher Stowasser wrote:

Ok, now it works perfectly! Thanks you two. Its so much text to read in this
help guides...

  
Yes, true. People---especially Uwe---have put a lot of work into those 
guides. Much of what's in them you probably don't need to know, so I 
usually recommend that people read the Tutorial fairly closely, and then 
read the User's Guide quickly, just skimming parts that don't really 
interest them. The other manuals contain tons of useful 
information---but not for everyone, since they're more specialized. I've 
never read the Embedded Objects manual, for example, since it basically 
doesn't apply to me. Remember too that you can use the Navigate menu, or 
open the Outline, to see a table of contents and decide what you might 
want to read. Oh, and that you can View>PDF and then print the manuals 
so you don't have to read them at your computer.


rh



Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Christopher Stowasser
I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. What
I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in the
normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
the math box  the label function is inactive.  Therefore I cannot label the
equation in the math box.  As long as I cannot asign a label to the equation
it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.

Greetings,
Christopher

2008/7/31 Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Christopher Stowasser
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have a problem with labelling equations. If I want to label an equation
 I
  put the cursor in the pink box surrounding the equation. Then I go to
  insert and to label. The function label is written in grey letters
  now, i.e. inactive. If the cursor is outside the pink box the function
  label works, but I cannot label the equation.
 
  Thanks in advance!
  Christopher
 

 I'm a little confused you may have to explain further. What do you
 mean the label works, but I cannot label the equation? How do you
 want to label it? What you have done should work. When you create a
 pdf of you file the equation should be numbered for instance (1) in
 article class because you entered Insert-Label.

 Cheers,
 /Bob




-- 
Christopher Stowasser
Nørrebrogade 100, 2 TH
2200 København N
Danmark


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Bob Lounsbury
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Christopher Stowasser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. What
 I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in the
 normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
 the math box  the label function is inactive.  Therefore I cannot label the
 equation in the math box.  As long as I cannot asign a label to the equation
 it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.


It sounds as if you have a problem with the installation of LyX. This
is obviously not normal behavior. I would trying reinstalling LyX. It
may help developer's to know what platform you are using and what
version of LyX. You may also need to file a bug report if reinstalling
doesn't help.

Cheers,
/Bob


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Christopher Stowasser wrote:

I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. What
I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in the
normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
the math box  the label function is inactive.  Therefore I cannot label the
equation in the math box.  As long as I cannot asign a label to the equation
it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.



Just to make sure we're all on the same page, you're talking about a 
displayed math inset (on its own line), right?  If you have a math inset 
in the middle of a line of text, you won't be able to insert a label 
(the label item on the insert menu is grayed out), because inserting a 
label there makes no sense.  A label in a math inset refers to the 
equation number, and in-line math insets don't get numbered.


/Paul



Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread rgheck

Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Christopher Stowasser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. What
I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in the
normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
the math box  the label function is inactive.  Therefore I cannot label the
equation in the math box.  As long as I cannot asign a label to the equation
it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.




It sounds as if you have a problem with the installation of LyX. This
is obviously not normal behavior. I would trying reinstalling LyX. It
may help developer's to know what platform you are using and what
version of LyX. You may also need to file a bug report if reinstalling
doesn't help.

  
I see it disabled as well, UNLESS the equation is in display 
mode---i.e., centered by itself on a separate line. It is meant to work 
that way. The reason is that labeled equations are also NUMBERED 
equations, and the mechanism that's used to do the label isn't available 
if the equation hasn't been set off.


Perhaps part of the confusion is that what LyX calls labels don't 
normally appear in the text. They're just targets for cross-references. 
So you can label the equation if you like by putting a label after it. 
But it won't have a number, and the only cross-reference you'll be able 
to do will be by page, really.


rh



Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

Christopher Stowasser wrote:

I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about
it. What
I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in
the
normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
the math box the label function is inactive. Therefore I cannot label the
equation in the math box. As long as I cannot asign a label to the
equation
it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.



Just to make sure we're all on the same page, you're talking about a
displayed math inset (on its own line), right? If you have a math inset
in the middle of a line of text, you won't be able to insert a label
(the label item on the insert menu is grayed out), because inserting a
label there makes no sense. A label in a math inset refers to the
equation number, and in-line math insets don't get numbered.


I can understand that this behavior is confusing for a new comer that 
haven't read the tutorial :-). Maybe we should authorize label insertion 
also for inline formulas and automatically switch to displayed formula 
if a label is inserted. Maybe with a warning box that explains what LyX 
did and what the user should do in order to avoid this warning box.


Abdel.



Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Waluyo Adi Siswanto
 I can understand that this behavior is confusing for a new comer that 
 haven't read the tutorial :-). Maybe we should authorize label insertion 
 also for inline formulas and automatically switch to displayed formula 
 if a label is inserted. Maybe with a warning box that explains what LyX 
 did and what the user should do in order to avoid this warning box.
 
 Abdel.
 

That would be a good idea, if LyX could accommodate new users by
switching to displayed mode and numbered? when inline formula is forced
to have label.

/Adi



Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote:
I can understand that this behavior is confusing for a new comer that 
haven't read the tutorial :-). Maybe we should authorize label insertion 
also for inline formulas and automatically switch to displayed formula 
if a label is inserted. Maybe with a warning box that explains what LyX 
did and what the user should do in order to avoid this warning box.




That would be a good idea, if LyX could accommodate new users by
switching to displayed mode and numbered? when inline formula is forced
to have label.



If you change this to a dialog that says the formula must be numbered 
(and therefore in display mode) to bear a label, and give the user the 
option to either switch it to display mode or scrap the label, that 
would make sense to me.  There may be a larger question here, though. 
It seems to me that there are a variety of situations where a menu item 
won't work and is grayed out (short title and optional argument come to 
mind).  Do the developers want to provide explanations/corrections for 
all of them?  I think (based on list traffic) the optional argument one 
is a more common problem than labels in inline math insets.


/Paul



Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Christopher Stowasser
I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. What
I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in the
normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
the math box  the label function is inactive.  Therefore I cannot label the
equation in the math box.  As long as I cannot asign a label to the equation
it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.

Greetings,
Christopher

2008/7/31 Bob Lounsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Christopher Stowasser
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have a problem with labelling equations. If I want to label an equation
 I
  put the cursor in the pink box surrounding the equation. Then I go to
  insert and to label. The function label is written in grey letters
  now, i.e. inactive. If the cursor is outside the pink box the function
  label works, but I cannot label the equation.
 
  Thanks in advance!
  Christopher
 

 I'm a little confused you may have to explain further. What do you
 mean the label works, but I cannot label the equation? How do you
 want to label it? What you have done should work. When you create a
 pdf of you file the equation should be numbered for instance (1) in
 article class because you entered Insert-Label.

 Cheers,
 /Bob




-- 
Christopher Stowasser
Nørrebrogade 100, 2 TH
2200 København N
Danmark


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Bob Lounsbury
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Christopher Stowasser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. What
 I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in the
 normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
 the math box  the label function is inactive.  Therefore I cannot label the
 equation in the math box.  As long as I cannot asign a label to the equation
 it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.


It sounds as if you have a problem with the installation of LyX. This
is obviously not normal behavior. I would trying reinstalling LyX. It
may help developer's to know what platform you are using and what
version of LyX. You may also need to file a bug report if reinstalling
doesn't help.

Cheers,
/Bob


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Christopher Stowasser wrote:

I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. What
I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in the
normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
the math box  the label function is inactive.  Therefore I cannot label the
equation in the math box.  As long as I cannot asign a label to the equation
it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.



Just to make sure we're all on the same page, you're talking about a 
displayed math inset (on its own line), right?  If you have a math inset 
in the middle of a line of text, you won't be able to insert a label 
(the label item on the insert menu is grayed out), because inserting a 
label there makes no sense.  A label in a math inset refers to the 
equation number, and in-line math insets don't get numbered.


/Paul



Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread rgheck

Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Christopher Stowasser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. What
I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in the
normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
the math box  the label function is inactive.  Therefore I cannot label the
equation in the math box.  As long as I cannot asign a label to the equation
it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.




It sounds as if you have a problem with the installation of LyX. This
is obviously not normal behavior. I would trying reinstalling LyX. It
may help developer's to know what platform you are using and what
version of LyX. You may also need to file a bug report if reinstalling
doesn't help.

  
I see it disabled as well, UNLESS the equation is in display 
mode---i.e., centered by itself on a separate line. It is meant to work 
that way. The reason is that labeled equations are also NUMBERED 
equations, and the mechanism that's used to do the label isn't available 
if the equation hasn't been set off.


Perhaps part of the confusion is that what LyX calls labels don't 
normally appear in the text. They're just targets for cross-references. 
So you can label the equation if you like by putting a label after it. 
But it won't have a number, and the only cross-reference you'll be able 
to do will be by page, really.


rh



Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

Christopher Stowasser wrote:

I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about
it. What
I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in
the
normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
the math box the label function is inactive. Therefore I cannot label the
equation in the math box. As long as I cannot asign a label to the
equation
it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.



Just to make sure we're all on the same page, you're talking about a
displayed math inset (on its own line), right? If you have a math inset
in the middle of a line of text, you won't be able to insert a label
(the label item on the insert menu is grayed out), because inserting a
label there makes no sense. A label in a math inset refers to the
equation number, and in-line math insets don't get numbered.


I can understand that this behavior is confusing for a new comer that 
haven't read the tutorial :-). Maybe we should authorize label insertion 
also for inline formulas and automatically switch to displayed formula 
if a label is inserted. Maybe with a warning box that explains what LyX 
did and what the user should do in order to avoid this warning box.


Abdel.



Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Waluyo Adi Siswanto
 I can understand that this behavior is confusing for a new comer that 
 haven't read the tutorial :-). Maybe we should authorize label insertion 
 also for inline formulas and automatically switch to displayed formula 
 if a label is inserted. Maybe with a warning box that explains what LyX 
 did and what the user should do in order to avoid this warning box.
 
 Abdel.
 

That would be a good idea, if LyX could accommodate new users by
switching to displayed mode and numbered? when inline formula is forced
to have label.

/Adi



Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote:
I can understand that this behavior is confusing for a new comer that 
haven't read the tutorial :-). Maybe we should authorize label insertion 
also for inline formulas and automatically switch to displayed formula 
if a label is inserted. Maybe with a warning box that explains what LyX 
did and what the user should do in order to avoid this warning box.




That would be a good idea, if LyX could accommodate new users by
switching to displayed mode and numbered? when inline formula is forced
to have label.



If you change this to a dialog that says the formula must be numbered 
(and therefore in display mode) to bear a label, and give the user the 
option to either switch it to display mode or scrap the label, that 
would make sense to me.  There may be a larger question here, though. 
It seems to me that there are a variety of situations where a menu item 
won't work and is grayed out (short title and optional argument come to 
mind).  Do the developers want to provide explanations/corrections for 
all of them?  I think (based on list traffic) the optional argument one 
is a more common problem than labels in inline math insets.


/Paul



Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Christopher Stowasser
I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. What
I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in the
normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
the math box  the label function is inactive.  Therefore I cannot label the
equation in the math box.  As long as I cannot asign a label to the equation
it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.

Greetings,
Christopher

2008/7/31 Bob Lounsbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Christopher Stowasser
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a problem with labelling equations. If I want to label an equation
> I
> > put the cursor in the pink box surrounding the equation. Then I go to
> > "insert" and to "label". The function "label" is written in grey letters
> > now, i.e. inactive. If the cursor is outside the pink box the function
> > "label" works, but I cannot label the equation.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> > Christopher
> >
>
> I'm a little confused you may have to explain further. What do you
> mean the "label" works, but I cannot label the equation? How do you
> want to label it? What you have done should work. When you create a
> pdf of you file the equation should be numbered for instance (1) in
> article class because you entered Insert->Label.
>
> Cheers,
> /Bob
>



-- 
Christopher Stowasser
Nørrebrogade 100, 2 TH
2200 København N
Danmark


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Bob Lounsbury
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Christopher Stowasser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. What
> I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in the
> normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
> the math box  the label function is inactive.  Therefore I cannot label the
> equation in the math box.  As long as I cannot asign a label to the equation
> it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.


It sounds as if you have a problem with the installation of LyX. This
is obviously not normal behavior. I would trying reinstalling LyX. It
may help developer's to know what platform you are using and what
version of LyX. You may also need to file a bug report if reinstalling
doesn't help.

Cheers,
/Bob


Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Christopher Stowasser wrote:

I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. What
I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in the
normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
the math box  the label function is inactive.  Therefore I cannot label the
equation in the math box.  As long as I cannot asign a label to the equation
it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.



Just to make sure we're all on the same page, you're talking about a 
displayed math inset (on its own line), right?  If you have a math inset 
in the middle of a line of text, you won't be able to insert a label 
(the label item on the insert menu is grayed out), because inserting a 
label there makes no sense.  A label in a math inset refers to the 
equation number, and in-line math insets don't get numbered.


/Paul



Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread rgheck

Bob Lounsbury wrote:

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Christopher Stowasser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. What
I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in the
normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
the math box  the label function is inactive.  Therefore I cannot label the
equation in the math box.  As long as I cannot asign a label to the equation
it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.




It sounds as if you have a problem with the installation of LyX. This
is obviously not normal behavior. I would trying reinstalling LyX. It
may help developer's to know what platform you are using and what
version of LyX. You may also need to file a bug report if reinstalling
doesn't help.

  
I see it disabled as well, UNLESS the equation is in "display" 
mode---i.e., centered by itself on a separate line. It is meant to work 
that way. The reason is that labeled equations are also NUMBERED 
equations, and the mechanism that's used to do the label isn't available 
if the equation hasn't been set off.


Perhaps part of the confusion is that what LyX calls "labels" don't 
normally appear in the text. They're just targets for cross-references. 
So you can label the equation if you like by putting a label after it. 
But it won't have a number, and the only cross-reference you'll be able 
to do will be by page, really.


rh



Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

Christopher Stowasser wrote:

I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about
it. What
I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in
the
normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in
the math box the label function is inactive. Therefore I cannot label the
equation in the math box. As long as I cannot asign a label to the
equation
it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess.



Just to make sure we're all on the same page, you're talking about a
displayed math inset (on its own line), right? If you have a math inset
in the middle of a line of text, you won't be able to insert a label
(the label item on the insert menu is grayed out), because inserting a
label there makes no sense. A label in a math inset refers to the
equation number, and in-line math insets don't get numbered.


I can understand that this behavior is confusing for a new comer that 
haven't read the tutorial :-). Maybe we should authorize label insertion 
also for inline formulas and automatically switch to displayed formula 
if a label is inserted. Maybe with a warning box that explains what LyX 
did and what the user should do in order to avoid this warning box.


Abdel.



Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Waluyo Adi Siswanto
> I can understand that this behavior is confusing for a new comer that 
> haven't read the tutorial :-). Maybe we should authorize label insertion 
> also for inline formulas and automatically switch to displayed formula 
> if a label is inserted. Maybe with a warning box that explains what LyX 
> did and what the user should do in order to avoid this warning box.
> 
> Abdel.
> 

That would be a good idea, if LyX could accommodate new users by
switching to displayed mode and numbered? when inline formula is forced
to have label.

/Adi



Re: Labelling equations

2008-08-01 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote:
I can understand that this behavior is confusing for a new comer that 
haven't read the tutorial :-). Maybe we should authorize label insertion 
also for inline formulas and automatically switch to displayed formula 
if a label is inserted. Maybe with a warning box that explains what LyX 
did and what the user should do in order to avoid this warning box.




That would be a good idea, if LyX could accommodate new users by
switching to displayed mode and numbered? when inline formula is forced
to have label.



If you change this to a dialog that says the formula must be numbered 
(and therefore in display mode) to bear a label, and give the user the 
option to either switch it to display mode or scrap the label, that 
would make sense to me.  There may be a larger question here, though. 
It seems to me that there are a variety of situations where a menu item 
won't work and is grayed out (short title and optional argument come to 
mind).  Do the developers want to provide explanations/corrections for 
all of them?  I think (based on list traffic) the optional argument one 
is a more common problem than labels in inline math insets.


/Paul



Labelling equations

2008-07-31 Thread Christopher Stowasser
Hi,

I have a problem with labelling equations. If I want to label an equation I
put the cursor in the pink box surrounding the equation. Then I go to
insert and to label. The function label is written in grey letters
now, i.e. inactive. If the cursor is outside the pink box the function
label works, but I cannot label the equation.

Thanks in advance!
Christopher


Re: Labelling equations

2008-07-31 Thread Bob Lounsbury
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Christopher Stowasser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a problem with labelling equations. If I want to label an equation I
 put the cursor in the pink box surrounding the equation. Then I go to
 insert and to label. The function label is written in grey letters
 now, i.e. inactive. If the cursor is outside the pink box the function
 label works, but I cannot label the equation.

 Thanks in advance!
 Christopher


I'm a little confused you may have to explain further. What do you
mean the label works, but I cannot label the equation? How do you
want to label it? What you have done should work. When you create a
pdf of you file the equation should be numbered for instance (1) in
article class because you entered Insert-Label.

Cheers,
/Bob


Labelling equations

2008-07-31 Thread Christopher Stowasser
Hi,

I have a problem with labelling equations. If I want to label an equation I
put the cursor in the pink box surrounding the equation. Then I go to
insert and to label. The function label is written in grey letters
now, i.e. inactive. If the cursor is outside the pink box the function
label works, but I cannot label the equation.

Thanks in advance!
Christopher


Re: Labelling equations

2008-07-31 Thread Bob Lounsbury
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Christopher Stowasser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I have a problem with labelling equations. If I want to label an equation I
 put the cursor in the pink box surrounding the equation. Then I go to
 insert and to label. The function label is written in grey letters
 now, i.e. inactive. If the cursor is outside the pink box the function
 label works, but I cannot label the equation.

 Thanks in advance!
 Christopher


I'm a little confused you may have to explain further. What do you
mean the label works, but I cannot label the equation? How do you
want to label it? What you have done should work. When you create a
pdf of you file the equation should be numbered for instance (1) in
article class because you entered Insert-Label.

Cheers,
/Bob


Labelling equations

2008-07-31 Thread Christopher Stowasser
Hi,

I have a problem with labelling equations. If I want to label an equation I
put the cursor in the pink box surrounding the equation. Then I go to
"insert" and to "label". The function "label" is written in grey letters
now, i.e. inactive. If the cursor is outside the pink box the function
"label" works, but I cannot label the equation.

Thanks in advance!
Christopher


Re: Labelling equations

2008-07-31 Thread Bob Lounsbury
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Christopher Stowasser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a problem with labelling equations. If I want to label an equation I
> put the cursor in the pink box surrounding the equation. Then I go to
> "insert" and to "label". The function "label" is written in grey letters
> now, i.e. inactive. If the cursor is outside the pink box the function
> "label" works, but I cannot label the equation.
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Christopher
>

I'm a little confused you may have to explain further. What do you
mean the "label" works, but I cannot label the equation? How do you
want to label it? What you have done should work. When you create a
pdf of you file the equation should be numbered for instance (1) in
article class because you entered Insert->Label.

Cheers,
/Bob