Re: Lyx vs Kile
On 11/05/2012 12:15 PM, Thomas Johansson wrote: Hi My name is Thomas, im helping a friend whos isn't particuarly home with computers even though he uses Mathematica and Kile on a Linux CentOS system to produce mathematical reports. He has some thoughts on moving to Win7 environment but he has concerns regarding the WYSIWYM editor, because he is used to struggle with the source based stuff :-) So i short, are the any big differences regarding the potential output and/or limitations connected to the use of Lyx compared to for example the Kile editor? In principle, you can do anything in LyX you can do in Kile, because you can enter raw LaTeX into LyX if you wish. But that's not really the point of LyX. Rather, this is: How much time is it possible to save if the normal state of things is struggling with formatting, commands etc in the source based stuff? Tons. The whole idea is to hide the details of LaTeX from the user, so that LyX works more like a traditional word processor, though it's also different in lots of other ways. Richard
Re: Lyx vs Kile
I use Win7 with both LyX and TeXStudio.
The purist in me likes working with the source code of TeXStudio as it
provides a high level of precise control over the document. But, I really,
REALLY, prefer the WYSIWYM interface of LyX. I do a lot of outlining with
the enumerate environment, and doing it visually with the LyX interface,
using the tab key to move from one level to the next is as easy as pie.
With the pure LaTeX code, I get lost in the different outline levels within
the document and often forget to put in an \end{enumerate} somewhere. LyX
handles that for me.
LyX insulates me from a lot of LaTeX source code. That said, I still put a
lot of stuff into the preamble through the document/settings menu option.
Without LyX, I would have never had the patience to try to learn LaTeX. LyX
has provided the training wheels that allowed me to venture into the
typesetting world.
Virgil
-Original Message-
From: Richard Heck
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:40 PM
To: Thomas Johansson
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org ; Thomas Ernst
Subject: Re: Lyx vs Kile
On 11/05/2012 12:15 PM, Thomas Johansson wrote:
Hi
My name is Thomas, im helping a friend whos isn't particuarly home with
computers even though he uses Mathematica and Kile on a Linux CentOS
system to produce mathematical reports. He has some thoughts on moving to
Win7 environment but he has concerns regarding the WYSIWYM editor, because
he is used to struggle with the source based stuff :-)
So i short, are the any big differences regarding the potential output
and/or limitations connected to the use of Lyx compared to for example the
Kile editor?
In principle, you can do anything in LyX you can do in Kile, because you
can enter raw LaTeX into LyX if you wish. But that's not really the
point of LyX. Rather, this is:
How much time is it possible to save if the normal state of things is
struggling with formatting, commands etc in the source based stuff?
Tons. The whole idea is to hide the details of LaTeX from the user, so
that LyX works more like a traditional word processor, though it's
also different in lots of other ways.
Richard
Re: Lyx vs Kile
Coincidently I discussed this just a couple of days ago:
http://yihui.name/en/2012/10/lyx-vs-latex/
LyX is absolutely a big time-saver. My productivity was boosted by
300% after using raw LaTeX for 5 years, since I would never be lost in
nested itemized environments, or math equations, or
(sub){0,2}sections, or \includegraphics{}. Everything is so clear.
Regards,
Yihui
--
Yihui Xie xieyi...@gmail.com
Phone: 515-294-2465 Web: http://yihui.name
Department of Statistics, Iowa State University
2215 Snedecor Hall, Ames, IA
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:29 PM, VA cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote:
I use Win7 with both LyX and TeXStudio.
The purist in me likes working with the source code of TeXStudio as it
provides a high level of precise control over the document. But, I really,
REALLY, prefer the WYSIWYM interface of LyX. I do a lot of outlining with
the enumerate environment, and doing it visually with the LyX interface,
using the tab key to move from one level to the next is as easy as pie.
With the pure LaTeX code, I get lost in the different outline levels within
the document and often forget to put in an \end{enumerate} somewhere. LyX
handles that for me.
LyX insulates me from a lot of LaTeX source code. That said, I still put a
lot of stuff into the preamble through the document/settings menu option.
Without LyX, I would have never had the patience to try to learn LaTeX. LyX
has provided the training wheels that allowed me to venture into the
typesetting world.
Virgil
-Original Message- From: Richard Heck
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:40 PM
To: Thomas Johansson
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org ; Thomas Ernst
Subject: Re: Lyx vs Kile
On 11/05/2012 12:15 PM, Thomas Johansson wrote:
Hi
My name is Thomas, im helping a friend whos isn't particuarly home with
computers even though he uses Mathematica and Kile on a Linux CentOS system
to produce mathematical reports. He has some thoughts on moving to Win7
environment but he has concerns regarding the WYSIWYM editor, because he is
used to struggle with the source based stuff :-)
So i short, are the any big differences regarding the potential output
and/or limitations connected to the use of Lyx compared to for example the
Kile editor?
In principle, you can do anything in LyX you can do in Kile, because you
can enter raw LaTeX into LyX if you wish. But that's not really the
point of LyX. Rather, this is:
How much time is it possible to save if the normal state of things is
struggling with formatting, commands etc in the source based stuff?
Tons. The whole idea is to hide the details of LaTeX from the user, so
that LyX works more like a traditional word processor, though it's
also different in lots of other ways.
Richard
Re: Lyx vs Kile
On 11/05/2012 12:15 PM, Thomas Johansson wrote: Hi My name is Thomas, im helping a friend whos isn't particuarly home with computers even though he uses Mathematica and Kile on a Linux CentOS system to produce mathematical reports. He has some thoughts on moving to Win7 environment but he has concerns regarding the WYSIWYM editor, because he is used to struggle with the source based stuff :-) So i short, are the any big differences regarding the potential output and/or limitations connected to the use of Lyx compared to for example the Kile editor? In principle, you can do anything in LyX you can do in Kile, because you can enter raw LaTeX into LyX if you wish. But that's not really the point of LyX. Rather, this is: How much time is it possible to save if the normal state of things is struggling with formatting, commands etc in the source based stuff? Tons. The whole idea is to hide the details of LaTeX from the user, so that LyX works more like a traditional word processor, though it's also different in lots of other ways. Richard
Re: Lyx vs Kile
I use Win7 with both LyX and TeXStudio.
The purist in me likes working with the source code of TeXStudio as it
provides a high level of precise control over the document. But, I really,
REALLY, prefer the WYSIWYM interface of LyX. I do a lot of outlining with
the enumerate environment, and doing it visually with the LyX interface,
using the tab key to move from one level to the next is as easy as pie.
With the pure LaTeX code, I get lost in the different outline levels within
the document and often forget to put in an \end{enumerate} somewhere. LyX
handles that for me.
LyX insulates me from a lot of LaTeX source code. That said, I still put a
lot of stuff into the preamble through the document/settings menu option.
Without LyX, I would have never had the patience to try to learn LaTeX. LyX
has provided the training wheels that allowed me to venture into the
typesetting world.
Virgil
-Original Message-
From: Richard Heck
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:40 PM
To: Thomas Johansson
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org ; Thomas Ernst
Subject: Re: Lyx vs Kile
On 11/05/2012 12:15 PM, Thomas Johansson wrote:
Hi
My name is Thomas, im helping a friend whos isn't particuarly home with
computers even though he uses Mathematica and Kile on a Linux CentOS
system to produce mathematical reports. He has some thoughts on moving to
Win7 environment but he has concerns regarding the WYSIWYM editor, because
he is used to struggle with the source based stuff :-)
So i short, are the any big differences regarding the potential output
and/or limitations connected to the use of Lyx compared to for example the
Kile editor?
In principle, you can do anything in LyX you can do in Kile, because you
can enter raw LaTeX into LyX if you wish. But that's not really the
point of LyX. Rather, this is:
How much time is it possible to save if the normal state of things is
struggling with formatting, commands etc in the source based stuff?
Tons. The whole idea is to hide the details of LaTeX from the user, so
that LyX works more like a traditional word processor, though it's
also different in lots of other ways.
Richard
Re: Lyx vs Kile
Coincidently I discussed this just a couple of days ago:
http://yihui.name/en/2012/10/lyx-vs-latex/
LyX is absolutely a big time-saver. My productivity was boosted by
300% after using raw LaTeX for 5 years, since I would never be lost in
nested itemized environments, or math equations, or
(sub){0,2}sections, or \includegraphics{}. Everything is so clear.
Regards,
Yihui
--
Yihui Xie xieyi...@gmail.com
Phone: 515-294-2465 Web: http://yihui.name
Department of Statistics, Iowa State University
2215 Snedecor Hall, Ames, IA
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:29 PM, VA cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote:
I use Win7 with both LyX and TeXStudio.
The purist in me likes working with the source code of TeXStudio as it
provides a high level of precise control over the document. But, I really,
REALLY, prefer the WYSIWYM interface of LyX. I do a lot of outlining with
the enumerate environment, and doing it visually with the LyX interface,
using the tab key to move from one level to the next is as easy as pie.
With the pure LaTeX code, I get lost in the different outline levels within
the document and often forget to put in an \end{enumerate} somewhere. LyX
handles that for me.
LyX insulates me from a lot of LaTeX source code. That said, I still put a
lot of stuff into the preamble through the document/settings menu option.
Without LyX, I would have never had the patience to try to learn LaTeX. LyX
has provided the training wheels that allowed me to venture into the
typesetting world.
Virgil
-Original Message- From: Richard Heck
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:40 PM
To: Thomas Johansson
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org ; Thomas Ernst
Subject: Re: Lyx vs Kile
On 11/05/2012 12:15 PM, Thomas Johansson wrote:
Hi
My name is Thomas, im helping a friend whos isn't particuarly home with
computers even though he uses Mathematica and Kile on a Linux CentOS system
to produce mathematical reports. He has some thoughts on moving to Win7
environment but he has concerns regarding the WYSIWYM editor, because he is
used to struggle with the source based stuff :-)
So i short, are the any big differences regarding the potential output
and/or limitations connected to the use of Lyx compared to for example the
Kile editor?
In principle, you can do anything in LyX you can do in Kile, because you
can enter raw LaTeX into LyX if you wish. But that's not really the
point of LyX. Rather, this is:
How much time is it possible to save if the normal state of things is
struggling with formatting, commands etc in the source based stuff?
Tons. The whole idea is to hide the details of LaTeX from the user, so
that LyX works more like a traditional word processor, though it's
also different in lots of other ways.
Richard
Re: Lyx vs Kile
On 11/05/2012 12:15 PM, Thomas Johansson wrote: Hi My name is Thomas, im helping a friend whos isn't particuarly home with computers even though he uses Mathematica and Kile on a Linux CentOS system to produce mathematical reports. He has some thoughts on moving to Win7 environment but he has concerns regarding the WYSIWYM editor, because he is used to struggle with the source based stuff :-) So i short, are the any big differences regarding the potential output and/or limitations connected to the use of Lyx compared to for example the Kile editor? In principle, you can do anything in LyX you can do in Kile, because you can enter raw LaTeX into LyX if you wish. But that's not really the point of LyX. Rather, this is: How much time is it possible to save if the normal state of things is struggling with formatting, commands etc in the source based stuff? Tons. The whole idea is to hide the details of LaTeX from the user, so that LyX works more like a traditional "word processor", though it's also different in lots of other ways. Richard
Re: Lyx vs Kile
I use Win7 with both LyX and TeXStudio.
The purist in me likes working with the source code of TeXStudio as it
provides a high level of precise control over the document. But, I really,
REALLY, prefer the WYSIWYM interface of LyX. I do a lot of outlining with
the enumerate environment, and doing it visually with the LyX interface,
using the key to move from one level to the next is as easy as pie.
With the pure LaTeX code, I get lost in the different outline levels within
the document and often forget to put in an "\end{enumerate}" somewhere. LyX
handles that for me.
LyX insulates me from a lot of LaTeX source code. That said, I still put a
lot of stuff into the preamble through the "document/settings" menu option.
Without LyX, I would have never had the patience to try to learn LaTeX. LyX
has provided the training wheels that allowed me to venture into the
typesetting world.
Virgil
-Original Message-
From: Richard Heck
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:40 PM
To: Thomas Johansson
Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org ; Thomas Ernst
Subject: Re: Lyx vs Kile
On 11/05/2012 12:15 PM, Thomas Johansson wrote:
Hi
My name is Thomas, im helping a friend whos isn't particuarly home with
computers even though he uses Mathematica and Kile on a Linux CentOS
system to produce mathematical reports. He has some thoughts on moving to
Win7 environment but he has concerns regarding the WYSIWYM editor, because
he is used to struggle with the source based stuff :-)
So i short, are the any big differences regarding the potential output
and/or limitations connected to the use of Lyx compared to for example the
Kile editor?
In principle, you can do anything in LyX you can do in Kile, because you
can enter raw LaTeX into LyX if you wish. But that's not really the
point of LyX. Rather, this is:
How much time is it possible to save if the normal state of things is
struggling with formatting, commands etc in the source based stuff?
Tons. The whole idea is to hide the details of LaTeX from the user, so
that LyX works more like a traditional "word processor", though it's
also different in lots of other ways.
Richard
Re: Lyx vs Kile
Coincidently I discussed this just a couple of days ago:
http://yihui.name/en/2012/10/lyx-vs-latex/
LyX is absolutely a big time-saver. My productivity was boosted by
300% after using raw LaTeX for 5 years, since I would never be lost in
nested itemized environments, or math equations, or
(sub){0,2}sections, or \includegraphics{}. Everything is so clear.
Regards,
Yihui
--
Yihui Xie <xieyi...@gmail.com>
Phone: 515-294-2465 Web: http://yihui.name
Department of Statistics, Iowa State University
2215 Snedecor Hall, Ames, IA
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:29 PM, VA <cuyfa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I use Win7 with both LyX and TeXStudio.
>
> The purist in me likes working with the source code of TeXStudio as it
> provides a high level of precise control over the document. But, I really,
> REALLY, prefer the WYSIWYM interface of LyX. I do a lot of outlining with
> the enumerate environment, and doing it visually with the LyX interface,
> using the key to move from one level to the next is as easy as pie.
> With the pure LaTeX code, I get lost in the different outline levels within
> the document and often forget to put in an "\end{enumerate}" somewhere. LyX
> handles that for me.
>
> LyX insulates me from a lot of LaTeX source code. That said, I still put a
> lot of stuff into the preamble through the "document/settings" menu option.
>
> Without LyX, I would have never had the patience to try to learn LaTeX. LyX
> has provided the training wheels that allowed me to venture into the
> typesetting world.
>
> Virgil
>
> -Original Message- From: Richard Heck
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:40 PM
> To: Thomas Johansson
> Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org ; Thomas Ernst
> Subject: Re: Lyx vs Kile
>
> On 11/05/2012 12:15 PM, Thomas Johansson wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>> My name is Thomas, im helping a friend whos isn't particuarly home with
>> computers even though he uses Mathematica and Kile on a Linux CentOS system
>> to produce mathematical reports. He has some thoughts on moving to Win7
>> environment but he has concerns regarding the WYSIWYM editor, because he is
>> used to struggle with the source based stuff :-)
>> So i short, are the any big differences regarding the potential output
>> and/or limitations connected to the use of Lyx compared to for example the
>> Kile editor?
>>
> In principle, you can do anything in LyX you can do in Kile, because you
> can enter raw LaTeX into LyX if you wish. But that's not really the
> point of LyX. Rather, this is:
>
>> How much time is it possible to save if the normal state of things is
>> struggling with formatting, commands etc in the source based stuff?
>>
> Tons. The whole idea is to hide the details of LaTeX from the user, so
> that LyX works more like a traditional "word processor", though it's
> also different in lots of other ways.
>
> Richard
>
