Re: Need help getting APA citing working

2011-05-11 Thread Julio Rojas
It works, only not it seems not to work with Natbib. From apacite's manual:

I consider natbib as the de facto standard with which other packages should
be compatible.
Unfortunately, apacite is still not entirely compatible with natbib. The
main incompatibility is that
different citation commands are used, so that it is not possible to use the
same document with
natbib or apacite.

Regards.

-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Julien Rioux jri...@physics.utoronto.cawrote:

 On 11/05/2011 1:07 AM, Mark Livingstone wrote:

 Hello!

 I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports,
 thesis
 etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
 date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am
 experimenting
 using the article (KOMA-Script) document class. Into my document, I have
 inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year,
 using
 apacite and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
 and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation
 as
 appropriate for varying numbers of authors.

 When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
 use and instead of , and the volume numbers are not italicised.

 Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
 downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses apacite and which
 has
 correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This
 tells
 me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately,
 I
 am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
 considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just
 too
 far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
 citation format ;-)

 On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to
 get
 it (and doesn't say where from!)

 Thanks in advance,

 MarkL


 Hi,

 First, apa.layout is nowadays shipped with the regular install of LyX.

 Second, you might try to put the following line in the LaTeX preamble
 (Document  Settings  LaTeX preamble)

 \usepackage{apacite}

 (not tested)

 --
 Julien



Re: Need help getting APA citing working

2011-05-11 Thread stefano franchi
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 It works, only not it seems not to work with Natbib. From apacite's manual:
 I consider natbib as the de facto standard with which other packages should
 be compatible.
 Unfortunately, apacite is still not entirely compatible with natbib. The
 main incompatibility is that
 different citation commands are used, so that it is not possible to use the
 same document with
 natbib or apacite.
 Regards.

You may consider switching to biblatex (from standard bibtex) and
using the biblatex-apa style (http://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-apa).
Biblatex is not completely integrated with Lyx yet, so you may have to
write a few commands in ERT (i.e. pure Latex), but it works fairly
well once you get the hang of it. Look at the wikipages to get started
(http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex). I switched to using biblatex  a
couple of years ago and have no regrets---it is much more flexible and
powerful than bibtex. Moreover, it is clearly the way forward for
managing bibliographies in latex/Lyx. It is actively developed, with
an increasing user base, etc. If you are just starting in Lyx/Latex,
it may be wise to learn how to use it. However, I have no experience
with biblatex-apa. You may want to look at the manual to see if it
fits your needs.

Cheers,

Stefano


Re: Need help getting APA citing working

2011-05-11 Thread Julio Rojas
It works, only not it seems not to work with Natbib. From apacite's manual:

I consider natbib as the de facto standard with which other packages should
be compatible.
Unfortunately, apacite is still not entirely compatible with natbib. The
main incompatibility is that
different citation commands are used, so that it is not possible to use the
same document with
natbib or apacite.

Regards.

-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Julien Rioux jri...@physics.utoronto.cawrote:

 On 11/05/2011 1:07 AM, Mark Livingstone wrote:

 Hello!

 I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports,
 thesis
 etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
 date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am
 experimenting
 using the article (KOMA-Script) document class. Into my document, I have
 inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year,
 using
 apacite and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
 and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation
 as
 appropriate for varying numbers of authors.

 When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
 use and instead of , and the volume numbers are not italicised.

 Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
 downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses apacite and which
 has
 correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This
 tells
 me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately,
 I
 am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
 considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just
 too
 far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
 citation format ;-)

 On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to
 get
 it (and doesn't say where from!)

 Thanks in advance,

 MarkL


 Hi,

 First, apa.layout is nowadays shipped with the regular install of LyX.

 Second, you might try to put the following line in the LaTeX preamble
 (Document  Settings  LaTeX preamble)

 \usepackage{apacite}

 (not tested)

 --
 Julien



Re: Need help getting APA citing working

2011-05-11 Thread stefano franchi
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 It works, only not it seems not to work with Natbib. From apacite's manual:
 I consider natbib as the de facto standard with which other packages should
 be compatible.
 Unfortunately, apacite is still not entirely compatible with natbib. The
 main incompatibility is that
 different citation commands are used, so that it is not possible to use the
 same document with
 natbib or apacite.
 Regards.

You may consider switching to biblatex (from standard bibtex) and
using the biblatex-apa style (http://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-apa).
Biblatex is not completely integrated with Lyx yet, so you may have to
write a few commands in ERT (i.e. pure Latex), but it works fairly
well once you get the hang of it. Look at the wikipages to get started
(http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex). I switched to using biblatex  a
couple of years ago and have no regrets---it is much more flexible and
powerful than bibtex. Moreover, it is clearly the way forward for
managing bibliographies in latex/Lyx. It is actively developed, with
an increasing user base, etc. If you are just starting in Lyx/Latex,
it may be wise to learn how to use it. However, I have no experience
with biblatex-apa. You may want to look at the manual to see if it
fits your needs.

Cheers,

Stefano


Re: Need help getting APA citing working

2011-05-11 Thread Julio Rojas
It works, only not it seems not to work with Natbib. From apacite's manual:

I consider natbib as the de facto standard with which other packages should
be compatible.
Unfortunately, apacite is still not entirely compatible with natbib. The
main incompatibility is that
different citation commands are used, so that it is not possible to use the
same document with
natbib or apacite.

Regards.

-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Julien Rioux wrote:

> On 11/05/2011 1:07 AM, Mark Livingstone wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports,
>> thesis
>> etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
>> date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am
>> experimenting
>> using the "article (KOMA-Script)" document class. Into my document, I have
>> inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year,
>> using
>> "apacite" and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
>> and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation
>> as
>> appropriate for varying numbers of authors.
>>
>> When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
>> use "and" instead of "&", and the volume numbers are not italicised.
>>
>> Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
>> downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses "apacite" and which
>> has
>> correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This
>> tells
>> me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately,
>> I
>> am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
>> considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just
>> too
>> far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
>> citation format ;-)
>>
>> On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to
>> get
>> it (and doesn't say where from!)
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> MarkL
>>
>>
> Hi,
>
> First, apa.layout is nowadays shipped with the regular install of LyX.
>
> Second, you might try to put the following line in the LaTeX preamble
> (Document > Settings > LaTeX preamble)
>
> \usepackage{apacite}
>
> (not tested)
>
> --
> Julien
>


Re: Need help getting APA citing working

2011-05-11 Thread stefano franchi
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Julio Rojas  wrote:
> It works, only not it seems not to work with Natbib. From apacite's manual:
> I consider natbib as the de facto standard with which other packages should
> be compatible.
> Unfortunately, apacite is still not entirely compatible with natbib. The
> main incompatibility is that
> different citation commands are used, so that it is not possible to use the
> same document with
> natbib or apacite.
> Regards.

You may consider switching to biblatex (from standard bibtex) and
using the biblatex-apa style (http://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-apa).
Biblatex is not completely integrated with Lyx yet, so you may have to
write a few commands in ERT (i.e. pure Latex), but it works fairly
well once you get the hang of it. Look at the wikipages to get started
(http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Biblatex). I switched to using biblatex  a
couple of years ago and have no regrets---it is much more flexible and
powerful than bibtex. Moreover, it is clearly the way forward for
managing bibliographies in latex/Lyx. It is actively developed, with
an increasing user base, etc. If you are just starting in Lyx/Latex,
it may be wise to learn how to use it. However, I have no experience
with biblatex-apa. You may want to look at the manual to see if it
fits your needs.

Cheers,

Stefano


Need help getting APA citing working

2011-05-10 Thread Mark Livingstone
Hello!

I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports, thesis
etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am experimenting
using the article (KOMA-Script) document class. Into my document, I have
inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year, using
apacite and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation as
appropriate for varying numbers of authors.

When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
use and instead of , and the volume numbers are not italicised.

Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses apacite and which has
correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This tells
me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately, I
am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just too
far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
citation format ;-)

On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to get
it (and doesn't say where from!)

Thanks in advance,

MarkL


Re: Need help getting APA citing working

2011-05-10 Thread Julien Rioux

On 11/05/2011 1:07 AM, Mark Livingstone wrote:

Hello!

I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports, thesis
etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am experimenting
using the article (KOMA-Script) document class. Into my document, I have
inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year, using
apacite and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation as
appropriate for varying numbers of authors.

When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
use and instead of , and the volume numbers are not italicised.

Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses apacite and which has
correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This tells
me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately, I
am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just too
far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
citation format ;-)

On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to get
it (and doesn't say where from!)

Thanks in advance,

MarkL



Hi,

First, apa.layout is nowadays shipped with the regular install of LyX.

Second, you might try to put the following line in the LaTeX preamble 
(Document  Settings  LaTeX preamble)


\usepackage{apacite}

(not tested)

--
Julien


Need help getting APA citing working

2011-05-10 Thread Mark Livingstone
Hello!

I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports, thesis
etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am experimenting
using the article (KOMA-Script) document class. Into my document, I have
inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year, using
apacite and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation as
appropriate for varying numbers of authors.

When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
use and instead of , and the volume numbers are not italicised.

Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses apacite and which has
correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This tells
me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately, I
am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just too
far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
citation format ;-)

On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to get
it (and doesn't say where from!)

Thanks in advance,

MarkL


Re: Need help getting APA citing working

2011-05-10 Thread Julien Rioux

On 11/05/2011 1:07 AM, Mark Livingstone wrote:

Hello!

I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports, thesis
etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am experimenting
using the article (KOMA-Script) document class. Into my document, I have
inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year, using
apacite and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation as
appropriate for varying numbers of authors.

When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
use and instead of , and the volume numbers are not italicised.

Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses apacite and which has
correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This tells
me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately, I
am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just too
far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
citation format ;-)

On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to get
it (and doesn't say where from!)

Thanks in advance,

MarkL



Hi,

First, apa.layout is nowadays shipped with the regular install of LyX.

Second, you might try to put the following line in the LaTeX preamble 
(Document  Settings  LaTeX preamble)


\usepackage{apacite}

(not tested)

--
Julien


Need help getting APA citing working

2011-05-10 Thread Mark Livingstone
Hello!

I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports, thesis
etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am experimenting
using the "article (KOMA-Script)" document class. Into my document, I have
inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year, using
"apacite" and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation as
appropriate for varying numbers of authors.

When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
use "and" instead of "&", and the volume numbers are not italicised.

Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses "apacite" and which has
correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This tells
me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately, I
am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just too
far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
citation format ;-)

On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to get
it (and doesn't say where from!)

Thanks in advance,

MarkL


Re: Need help getting APA citing working

2011-05-10 Thread Julien Rioux

On 11/05/2011 1:07 AM, Mark Livingstone wrote:

Hello!

I am commencing my B.InfoTech (Hons) and want to use Lyx for reports, thesis
etc. I have installed the new Lyx 2.0 on my Macbook Pro and am using up to
date Mactex live from the mirror.aarnet.edu.au mirror) and am experimenting
using the "article (KOMA-Script)" document class. Into my document, I have
inserted a Bibtex generated Bibliography, selected Natbib Author-year, using
"apacite" and pointed it at my marklivingstone.bib file. I typed some text
and inserted some trial citations selecting (author, year) type citation as
appropriate for varying numbers of authors.

When I do an update, and view, I get a beautiful result, but the citations
use "and" instead of "&", and the volume numbers are not italicised.

Before bothering you guys, I went to the Wiki and found the APALyX page. I
downloaded the ApaExample.lyx which I note also uses "apacite" and which has
correctly done ampersand signs and volume number citation style. This tells
me I must have all the requisite class / style / etc files. Unfortunately, I
am very new to Latex / Lyx, and I don't know how to fix my citations. I
considered using the ApaExample.lyx but its stylistic elements are just too
far from my desired requirements. I don't want their style, just their
citation format ;-)

On the ApaLyX page, it says you will need an apa.layout file and says to get
it (and doesn't say where from!)

Thanks in advance,

MarkL



Hi,

First, apa.layout is nowadays shipped with the regular install of LyX.

Second, you might try to put the following line in the LaTeX preamble 
(Document > Settings > LaTeX preamble)


\usepackage{apacite}

(not tested)

--
Julien