Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-22 Thread Matej Cepl
Janus Sandsgaard wrote:
 Can anyone point me to a place that can give me an overview of (the
 differences between) the styles - and help me choosing which is right for
 me? I guess I simply need something apalike. As said for sociale science.

I usually use just plainnat and it works pretty well for me (I am a PhD
student of sociology with lawyer's background).

Matej

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Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Rob S wrote:

 I've just written my entire thesis using apalike + natbib without a
 problem

You probably had just luck that no problem occured. Natbib and apalike a two
different approaches for the same problem (even though natbib has probably
been designed with apalike in mind).

Jürgen



Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-22 Thread Matej Cepl
Janus Sandsgaard wrote:
 Can anyone point me to a place that can give me an overview of (the
 differences between) the styles - and help me choosing which is right for
 me? I guess I simply need something apalike. As said for sociale science.

I usually use just plainnat and it works pretty well for me (I am a PhD
student of sociology with lawyer's background).

Matej

-- 
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/blog/
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB  25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
 
I went to a Grateful Dead Concert and they played for SEVEN
hours.  Great song.
-- Fred Reuss




Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Rob S wrote:

 I've just written my entire thesis using apalike + natbib without a
 problem

You probably had just luck that no problem occured. Natbib and apalike a two
different approaches for the same problem (even though natbib has probably
been designed with apalike in mind).

Jürgen



Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-22 Thread Matej Cepl
Janus Sandsgaard wrote:
> Can anyone point me to a place that can give me an overview of (the
> differences between) the styles - and help me choosing which is right for
> me? I guess I simply need something apalike. As said for sociale science.

I usually use just plainnat and it works pretty well for me (I am a PhD
student of sociology with lawyer's background).

Matej

-- 
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej/blog/
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB  25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
 
I went to a Grateful Dead Concert and they played for SEVEN
hours.  Great song.
-- Fred Reuss




Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-22 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Rob S wrote:

> I've just written my entire thesis using apalike + natbib without a
> problem

You probably had just luck that no problem occured. Natbib and apalike a two
different approaches for the same problem (even though natbib has probably
been designed with apalike in mind).

Jürgen



Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Janus Sandsgaard
I am using NatBib with author-year citation. On my PC I have the following 
styles available for NatBiB:

/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/abbrvnat.bst
/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/plainnat.bst
/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/unsrtnat.bst

as described in the NatBib documentation (which I have read):
http://www.linmpi.mpg.de/english/services/software/latex/localtex/doc/natbib.pdf

However, the manual describes the NatBiB compatible styles in relation to the 
old ones they are replacing (plain, apalike etc). But since I do now have 
experience with these style I am having difficulties choosing which is right 
for me.

Can anyone point me to a place that can give me an overview of (the 
differences between) the styles - and help me choosing which is right for me? 
I guess I simply need something apalike. As said for sociale science.

Kind regards,
Janus

-- 
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.


Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd

Earlier you mentioned you wanted an apalike reference set up.

Select the NatBib package ffrom Layout-Document

Then select the apalike settings when you do Insert-ListsTOC-BibTex 
Reference



- Original Message - 
From: Janus Sandsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:59 PM
Subject: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?



I am using NatBib with author-year citation. On my PC I have the following
styles available for NatBiB:

/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/abbrvnat.bst
/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/plainnat.bst
/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/unsrtnat.bst

as described in the NatBib documentation (which I have read):
http://www.linmpi.mpg.de/english/services/software/latex/localtex/doc/natbib.pdf

However, the manual describes the NatBiB compatible styles in relation to 
the

old ones they are replacing (plain, apalike etc). But since I do now have
experience with these style I am having difficulties choosing which is 
right

for me.

Can anyone point me to a place that can give me an overview of (the
differences between) the styles - and help me choosing which is right for 
me?

I guess I simply need something apalike. As said for sociale science.

Kind regards,
Janus

--
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.





Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Janus Sandsgaard
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 19:05, Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

 Earlier you mentioned you wanted an apalike reference set up.
 Select the NatBib package ffrom Layout-Document

Did that already.

 Then select the apalike settings when you do Insert-ListsTOC-BibTex
 Reference

But as far as I understand the apalike.bst was not written with NatBiB in 
mind, and using it with NatBib could cause problems. This is why I started 
looking into abbrvnat.bst, plainnat.bst and unsrtnat.bst. But maybe I am 
wrong here.

Janus

-- 
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.


Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd

I see

Sorry my misunderstanding - you could always chose not to use the natbib 
style and just use apalike.bst
- Original Message - 
From: Janus Sandsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?



On Tuesday 21 June 2005 19:05, Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Earlier you mentioned you wanted an apalike reference set up.
Select the NatBib package ffrom Layout-Document


Did that already.


Then select the apalike settings when you do Insert-ListsTOC-BibTex
Reference


But as far as I understand the apalike.bst was not written with NatBiB in
mind, and using it with NatBib could cause problems. This is why I started
looking into abbrvnat.bst, plainnat.bst and unsrtnat.bst. But maybe I am
wrong here.

Janus

--
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.





Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Sam Lewis
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:32:19 +0100 Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

 I see
 
 Sorry my misunderstanding - you could always chose not to use the
 natbib style and just use apalike.bst

See editoral note of apalike.bst:

... using an author-date style like `apalike' ...[sic]

From this I would say apalike requires NatBib. Any suggestions, anyone
else?

Cheers, Sam


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Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Rob S




But as far as I understand the apalike.bst was not written with NatBiB in 
mind, and using it with NatBib could cause problems. This is why I started 
looking into abbrvnat.bst, plainnat.bst and unsrtnat.bst. But maybe I am 
wrong here.




I've just written my entire thesis using apalike + natbib without a problem

As I mentioned some time back though I have had to add:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED] , #2\fi)}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 to the preamble but thats all.


Rob S
--


R D Saunders
Hydraulic Research Group
Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
University of Southampton
UK



Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Janus Sandsgaard
I am using NatBib with author-year citation. On my PC I have the following 
styles available for NatBiB:

/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/abbrvnat.bst
/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/plainnat.bst
/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/unsrtnat.bst

as described in the NatBib documentation (which I have read):
http://www.linmpi.mpg.de/english/services/software/latex/localtex/doc/natbib.pdf

However, the manual describes the NatBiB compatible styles in relation to the 
old ones they are replacing (plain, apalike etc). But since I do now have 
experience with these style I am having difficulties choosing which is right 
for me.

Can anyone point me to a place that can give me an overview of (the 
differences between) the styles - and help me choosing which is right for me? 
I guess I simply need something apalike. As said for sociale science.

Kind regards,
Janus

-- 
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.


Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd

Earlier you mentioned you wanted an apalike reference set up.

Select the NatBib package ffrom Layout-Document

Then select the apalike settings when you do Insert-ListsTOC-BibTex 
Reference



- Original Message - 
From: Janus Sandsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:59 PM
Subject: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?



I am using NatBib with author-year citation. On my PC I have the following
styles available for NatBiB:

/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/abbrvnat.bst
/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/plainnat.bst
/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/unsrtnat.bst

as described in the NatBib documentation (which I have read):
http://www.linmpi.mpg.de/english/services/software/latex/localtex/doc/natbib.pdf

However, the manual describes the NatBiB compatible styles in relation to 
the

old ones they are replacing (plain, apalike etc). But since I do now have
experience with these style I am having difficulties choosing which is 
right

for me.

Can anyone point me to a place that can give me an overview of (the
differences between) the styles - and help me choosing which is right for 
me?

I guess I simply need something apalike. As said for sociale science.

Kind regards,
Janus

--
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.





Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Janus Sandsgaard
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 19:05, Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

 Earlier you mentioned you wanted an apalike reference set up.
 Select the NatBib package ffrom Layout-Document

Did that already.

 Then select the apalike settings when you do Insert-ListsTOC-BibTex
 Reference

But as far as I understand the apalike.bst was not written with NatBiB in 
mind, and using it with NatBib could cause problems. This is why I started 
looking into abbrvnat.bst, plainnat.bst and unsrtnat.bst. But maybe I am 
wrong here.

Janus

-- 
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.


Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd

I see

Sorry my misunderstanding - you could always chose not to use the natbib 
style and just use apalike.bst
- Original Message - 
From: Janus Sandsgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?



On Tuesday 21 June 2005 19:05, Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Earlier you mentioned you wanted an apalike reference set up.
Select the NatBib package ffrom Layout-Document


Did that already.


Then select the apalike settings when you do Insert-ListsTOC-BibTex
Reference


But as far as I understand the apalike.bst was not written with NatBiB in
mind, and using it with NatBib could cause problems. This is why I started
looking into abbrvnat.bst, plainnat.bst and unsrtnat.bst. But maybe I am
wrong here.

Janus

--
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.





Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Sam Lewis
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:32:19 +0100 Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

 I see
 
 Sorry my misunderstanding - you could always chose not to use the
 natbib style and just use apalike.bst

See editoral note of apalike.bst:

... using an author-date style like `apalike' ...[sic]

From this I would say apalike requires NatBib. Any suggestions, anyone
else?

Cheers, Sam


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Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Rob S




But as far as I understand the apalike.bst was not written with NatBiB in 
mind, and using it with NatBib could cause problems. This is why I started 
looking into abbrvnat.bst, plainnat.bst and unsrtnat.bst. But maybe I am 
wrong here.




I've just written my entire thesis using apalike + natbib without a problem

As I mentioned some time back though I have had to add:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED] , #2\fi)}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 to the preamble but thats all.


Rob S
--


R D Saunders
Hydraulic Research Group
Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
University of Southampton
UK



Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Janus Sandsgaard
I am using NatBib with author-year citation. On my PC I have the following 
styles available for NatBiB:

/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/abbrvnat.bst
/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/plainnat.bst
/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/unsrtnat.bst

as described in the NatBib documentation (which I have read):
http://www.linmpi.mpg.de/english/services/software/latex/localtex/doc/natbib.pdf

However, the manual describes the NatBiB compatible styles in relation to the 
old ones they are replacing (plain, apalike etc). But since I do now have 
experience with these style I am having difficulties choosing which is right 
for me.

Can anyone point me to a place that can give me an overview of (the 
differences between) the styles - and help me choosing which is right for me? 
I guess I simply need something apalike. As said for sociale science.

Kind regards,
Janus

-- 
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.


Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd

Earlier you mentioned you wanted an apalike reference set up.

Select the NatBib package ffrom Layout->Document

Then select the apalike settings when you do Insert->Lists>BibTex 
Reference



- Original Message - 
From: "Janus Sandsgaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:59 PM
Subject: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?



I am using NatBib with author-year citation. On my PC I have the following
styles available for NatBiB:

/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/abbrvnat.bst
/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/plainnat.bst
/usr/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib/unsrtnat.bst

as described in the NatBib documentation (which I have read):
http://www.linmpi.mpg.de/english/services/software/latex/localtex/doc/natbib.pdf

However, the manual describes the NatBiB compatible styles in relation to 
the

old ones they are replacing (plain, apalike etc). But since I do now have
experience with these style I am having difficulties choosing which is 
right

for me.

Can anyone point me to a place that can give me an overview of (the
differences between) the styles - and help me choosing which is right for 
me?

I guess I simply need something apalike. As said for sociale science.

Kind regards,
Janus

--
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.





Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Janus Sandsgaard
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 19:05, Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

> Earlier you mentioned you wanted an apalike reference set up.
> Select the NatBib package ffrom Layout->Document

Did that already.

> Then select the apalike settings when you do Insert->Lists>BibTex
> Reference

But as far as I understand the apalike.bst was not written with NatBiB in 
mind, and using it with NatBib could cause problems. This is why I started 
looking into abbrvnat.bst, plainnat.bst and unsrtnat.bst. But maybe I am 
wrong here.

Janus

-- 
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.


Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Geoffrey Lloyd

I see

Sorry my misunderstanding - you could always chose not to use the natbib 
style and just use apalike.bst
- Original Message - 
From: "Janus Sandsgaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?



On Tuesday 21 June 2005 19:05, Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:


Earlier you mentioned you wanted an apalike reference set up.
Select the NatBib package ffrom Layout->Document


Did that already.


Then select the apalike settings when you do Insert->Lists>BibTex
Reference


But as far as I understand the apalike.bst was not written with NatBiB in
mind, and using it with NatBib could cause problems. This is why I started
looking into abbrvnat.bst, plainnat.bst and unsrtnat.bst. But maybe I am
wrong here.

Janus

--
Roskilde University, Denmark.
Department of Technology and Social Science.
International Development Studies.
ESST - Society, Science and Technology in Europe.





Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Sam Lewis
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:32:19 +0100 Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:

> I see
> 
> Sorry my misunderstanding - you could always chose not to use the
> natbib style and just use apalike.bst

See editoral note of apalike.bst:

"... using an author-date style like `apalike' ..."[sic]

From this I would say apalike requires NatBib. Any suggestions, anyone
else?

Cheers, Sam


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Re: Overview of the NatBib styles - which is the right one for me?

2005-06-21 Thread Rob S




But as far as I understand the apalike.bst was not written with NatBiB in 
mind, and using it with NatBib could cause problems. This is why I started 
looking into abbrvnat.bst, plainnat.bst and unsrtnat.bst. But maybe I am 
wrong here.




I've just written my entire thesis using apalike + natbib without a problem

As I mentioned some time back though I have had to add:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED] , #2\fi)}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 to the preamble but thats all.


Rob S
--


R D Saunders
Hydraulic Research Group
Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering
University of Southampton
UK