Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-12 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2013-11-11, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 On Monday 11 November 2013 14:27:30 Guenter Milde wrote:

...

 If you plan to typeset German documents or mixed-language documents
 containing German parts, install texlive-lang-german.

  Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live
  installed.
  
  Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to
  solve this.

 This is only an option, if the use of ngerman is not intended and
 there is no German text in the document.


 It is a purely (American)English chapter for a Springer book (except some 
 of the references, which are in German or French).

In this case, manually removing ngerman (or, if the references are part of
the document, not included via BibTeX, changing the language to English) may
be a last resort.

Generally, I would install and use the language package(s) even for just
one German or French reference title. This ensures proper hyphenation in a
more fail-proof way.

Günter



Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-12 Thread Hugo Hinterberger
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:22:57 +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann  
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:

 ...

It is a purely (American)English chapter for a Springer book (except some
of the references, which are in German or French).


This problem sounds familiar.
It could have to do with default settings (I am assuming that your default  
language for LyX documents is “ngerman”) or copying text from an other LyX  
document.

I also assume that your English only chapter is a file by itself.

What I suggest is to check the Document → Settings → Language → Language  
option to say “English (USA)”. Next select all the text in the file and  
open the Text Style dialogue (Edit → Text Style → Customized...) and use  
the Language option “Reset” (make sure all other options are set to “No  
change”) to “reset” the text language to the language set in the document  
settings.
You have to do this also inside of every inset—resetting the language for  
all text does not work for the content of an inset, even if it is  
selected. If there are multiple levels of insets you have to reset the  
language on every level i.e. select all the inset content and reset the  
language then go to the next inset level and do it again.
Please also keep in mind that LyX preserves language settings of  
copy-pasted text i.e. LyX does NOT apply the destination document language  
to pasted text if the source document is also a LyX document.
One final note: I made those experiences on a Windows system and I prefer  
“vanilla” TeX Live every time - it causes less problems.


Hugo



Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-12 Thread Philipp Gröne

Hi!


It looks like the OP is using Debian/unstable or Debian/testing. This is
work in progress and there was a re-structuring of the language support
packages. So I would consider the problem one of the rough edges of the
unstable branch, not a Debian bug.


The original poster is running a Debian stable/unstable-mix. I guess that  
is the reason for some of the problems.


Wolfgang, is there any reason why you don't want to run pure  
Debian/testing or unstable installation?


Debian/stable is intended for systems like servers (or the laptops on the  
ISS) where absolute stability is crucial. If one wants/has to use  
up-to-date software on Debian/stable, the installation process is very  
prone to errors.


This is the reason I switched from Ubuntu to Debian testing. Ubuntu is  
based on a more or less dated snapshot of Debian/testing. I spent a week  
trying to install a piece of new software which had a very old version in  
the Ubuntu repositories.
In the end it was a choice between gnawing of one of my feet in  
frustration or trying to install Debian/testing. I never had to regret  
that. Debian/unstable is still incredibly stable, and Debian/testing is  
even more so.
You seem to be tech-savy, able to read and follow instructions and not  
afraid to ask questions. This more than qualifies you to run it.  
Additionally, Debian/testing would lead to much less problems.



If I select this for installation, synaptic is going to remove a lot of  
texlive and other stuff, which I hesitate to do.


To the actual problem:
My guess is a version mixup between the Stable/unstable packages.

You can try this:  sudo apt-get -t unstable install texlive-lang-all ,  
telling your Debian it shall install the newer packages specifically.  
There has to be a way to do that in synaptic directly, but I don't know  
it. Also, you can install the needed language packs specifically,  
texlife-lang-all is 850 Mb large.


The texlive you've installed is the newer version, a dependency of Lyx  
2.0.6. Texlive 2012 and 2013 are mutually exclusive packages.


For my own problem:

In this case, manually removing ngerman (or, if the references are part  
of
the document, not included via BibTeX, changing the language to English)  
may

be a last resort.


The text in question is written in English, and I'm not aware of any  
German reference in it. I've sent the text to a friend to read it, and she  
opened it in a German LyX-installation. Maybe the line was added at this  
point, I haven`t exported this particular file to PDF in a while.


Greetings!
Ph.


Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman' --solved

2013-11-12 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
On Monday 11 November 2013 14:27:30 Guenter Milde wrote:
 On 2013-11-11, Stephan Witt wrote:
  Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne 
philipp.gro...@googlemail.com:
  more serious:
  if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get
  
  ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled
  it (babel)or the language definition file
  ngerman.ldf was not found.
  
   and no output.
  
  I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian
  
  If you want to install more packages instead try either
  texlive-lang-german or texlive-lang-all.
 
 The condition should rather be:
 
 If you plan to typeset German documents or mixed-language documents
 containing German parts, install texlive-lang-german.
 
  Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live
  installed.
  
  Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to
  solve this.
 
 This is only an option, if the use of ngerman is not intended and
 there is no German text in the document.
 
 
 Günter

I found the cause of the error I was reporting (ngerman)

checking the latex output gave me two places were ngerman is mentioned. In 
both cases I had used an index which (in lyx) was underlined blue and the 
tex text showed:

...  
chronopharmacological\index{chronopharmacology@\selectlanguage{ngerman}%
chronopharmacology\selectlanguage{american}%
} aspects by ...

selecting the index content chronopharmacology and doing in 
bearbeitentextstylelanguagereset
(which makes the blue underline to disappear)
allowed me get the normal pdf output.

I just want to point this out, since other lyx users might have similar 
issues.

Thanks for all the help.

Wolfgang


Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-12 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
On Tuesday 12 November 2013 11:05:00 Hugo Hinterberger wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:22:57 +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann
 
 engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
   ...
  
  It is a purely (American)English chapter for a Springer book (except
  some of the references, which are in German or French).
 
 This problem sounds familiar.
 It could have to do with default settings (I am assuming that your
 default language for LyX documents is “ngerman”) or copying text from
 an other LyX document.
 I also assume that your English only chapter is a file by itself.
 
 What I suggest is to check the Document → Settings → Language → Language
 option to say “English (USA)”. Next select all the text in the file and
 open the Text Style dialogue (Edit → Text Style → Customized...) and use
 the Language option “Reset” (make sure all other options are set to “No
 change”) to “reset” the text language to the language set in the
 document settings.
 You have to do this also inside of every inset—resetting the language
 for all text does not work for the content of an inset, even if it is
 selected. If there are multiple levels of insets you have to reset the
 language on every level i.e. select all the inset content and reset the
 language then go to the next inset level and do it again.
 Please also keep in mind that LyX preserves language settings of
 copy-pasted text i.e. LyX does NOT apply the destination document
 language to pasted text if the source document is also a LyX document.
 One final note: I made those experiences on a Windows system and I
 prefer “vanilla” TeX Live every time - it causes less problems.
 
 Hugo


Thanks, Hugo, for your advice and the specific ngerman question remedy.
I posted my findings before reading your mail. Your suggestion is more 
global and therefore advisable.

Wolfgang


Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-12 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2013-11-11, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 On Monday 11 November 2013 14:27:30 Guenter Milde wrote:

...

 If you plan to typeset German documents or mixed-language documents
 containing German parts, install texlive-lang-german.

  Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live
  installed.
  
  Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to
  solve this.

 This is only an option, if the use of ngerman is not intended and
 there is no German text in the document.


 It is a purely (American)English chapter for a Springer book (except some 
 of the references, which are in German or French).

In this case, manually removing ngerman (or, if the references are part of
the document, not included via BibTeX, changing the language to English) may
be a last resort.

Generally, I would install and use the language package(s) even for just
one German or French reference title. This ensures proper hyphenation in a
more fail-proof way.

Günter



Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-12 Thread Hugo Hinterberger
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:22:57 +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann  
engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:

 ...

It is a purely (American)English chapter for a Springer book (except some
of the references, which are in German or French).


This problem sounds familiar.
It could have to do with default settings (I am assuming that your default  
language for LyX documents is “ngerman”) or copying text from an other LyX  
document.

I also assume that your English only chapter is a file by itself.

What I suggest is to check the Document → Settings → Language → Language  
option to say “English (USA)”. Next select all the text in the file and  
open the Text Style dialogue (Edit → Text Style → Customized...) and use  
the Language option “Reset” (make sure all other options are set to “No  
change”) to “reset” the text language to the language set in the document  
settings.
You have to do this also inside of every inset—resetting the language for  
all text does not work for the content of an inset, even if it is  
selected. If there are multiple levels of insets you have to reset the  
language on every level i.e. select all the inset content and reset the  
language then go to the next inset level and do it again.
Please also keep in mind that LyX preserves language settings of  
copy-pasted text i.e. LyX does NOT apply the destination document language  
to pasted text if the source document is also a LyX document.
One final note: I made those experiences on a Windows system and I prefer  
“vanilla” TeX Live every time - it causes less problems.


Hugo



Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-12 Thread Philipp Gröne

Hi!


It looks like the OP is using Debian/unstable or Debian/testing. This is
work in progress and there was a re-structuring of the language support
packages. So I would consider the problem one of the rough edges of the
unstable branch, not a Debian bug.


The original poster is running a Debian stable/unstable-mix. I guess that  
is the reason for some of the problems.


Wolfgang, is there any reason why you don't want to run pure  
Debian/testing or unstable installation?


Debian/stable is intended for systems like servers (or the laptops on the  
ISS) where absolute stability is crucial. If one wants/has to use  
up-to-date software on Debian/stable, the installation process is very  
prone to errors.


This is the reason I switched from Ubuntu to Debian testing. Ubuntu is  
based on a more or less dated snapshot of Debian/testing. I spent a week  
trying to install a piece of new software which had a very old version in  
the Ubuntu repositories.
In the end it was a choice between gnawing of one of my feet in  
frustration or trying to install Debian/testing. I never had to regret  
that. Debian/unstable is still incredibly stable, and Debian/testing is  
even more so.
You seem to be tech-savy, able to read and follow instructions and not  
afraid to ask questions. This more than qualifies you to run it.  
Additionally, Debian/testing would lead to much less problems.



If I select this for installation, synaptic is going to remove a lot of  
texlive and other stuff, which I hesitate to do.


To the actual problem:
My guess is a version mixup between the Stable/unstable packages.

You can try this:  sudo apt-get -t unstable install texlive-lang-all ,  
telling your Debian it shall install the newer packages specifically.  
There has to be a way to do that in synaptic directly, but I don't know  
it. Also, you can install the needed language packs specifically,  
texlife-lang-all is 850 Mb large.


The texlive you've installed is the newer version, a dependency of Lyx  
2.0.6. Texlive 2012 and 2013 are mutually exclusive packages.


For my own problem:

In this case, manually removing ngerman (or, if the references are part  
of
the document, not included via BibTeX, changing the language to English)  
may

be a last resort.


The text in question is written in English, and I'm not aware of any  
German reference in it. I've sent the text to a friend to read it, and she  
opened it in a German LyX-installation. Maybe the line was added at this  
point, I haven`t exported this particular file to PDF in a while.


Greetings!
Ph.


Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman' --solved

2013-11-12 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
On Monday 11 November 2013 14:27:30 Guenter Milde wrote:
 On 2013-11-11, Stephan Witt wrote:
  Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne 
philipp.gro...@googlemail.com:
  more serious:
  if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get
  
  ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled
  it (babel)or the language definition file
  ngerman.ldf was not found.
  
   and no output.
  
  I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian
  
  If you want to install more packages instead try either
  texlive-lang-german or texlive-lang-all.
 
 The condition should rather be:
 
 If you plan to typeset German documents or mixed-language documents
 containing German parts, install texlive-lang-german.
 
  Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live
  installed.
  
  Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to
  solve this.
 
 This is only an option, if the use of ngerman is not intended and
 there is no German text in the document.
 
 
 Günter

I found the cause of the error I was reporting (ngerman)

checking the latex output gave me two places were ngerman is mentioned. In 
both cases I had used an index which (in lyx) was underlined blue and the 
tex text showed:

...  
chronopharmacological\index{chronopharmacology@\selectlanguage{ngerman}%
chronopharmacology\selectlanguage{american}%
} aspects by ...

selecting the index content chronopharmacology and doing in 
bearbeitentextstylelanguagereset
(which makes the blue underline to disappear)
allowed me get the normal pdf output.

I just want to point this out, since other lyx users might have similar 
issues.

Thanks for all the help.

Wolfgang


Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-12 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
On Tuesday 12 November 2013 11:05:00 Hugo Hinterberger wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:22:57 +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann
 
 engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
   ...
  
  It is a purely (American)English chapter for a Springer book (except
  some of the references, which are in German or French).
 
 This problem sounds familiar.
 It could have to do with default settings (I am assuming that your
 default language for LyX documents is “ngerman”) or copying text from
 an other LyX document.
 I also assume that your English only chapter is a file by itself.
 
 What I suggest is to check the Document → Settings → Language → Language
 option to say “English (USA)”. Next select all the text in the file and
 open the Text Style dialogue (Edit → Text Style → Customized...) and use
 the Language option “Reset” (make sure all other options are set to “No
 change”) to “reset” the text language to the language set in the
 document settings.
 You have to do this also inside of every inset—resetting the language
 for all text does not work for the content of an inset, even if it is
 selected. If there are multiple levels of insets you have to reset the
 language on every level i.e. select all the inset content and reset the
 language then go to the next inset level and do it again.
 Please also keep in mind that LyX preserves language settings of
 copy-pasted text i.e. LyX does NOT apply the destination document
 language to pasted text if the source document is also a LyX document.
 One final note: I made those experiences on a Windows system and I
 prefer “vanilla” TeX Live every time - it causes less problems.
 
 Hugo


Thanks, Hugo, for your advice and the specific ngerman question remedy.
I posted my findings before reading your mail. Your suggestion is more 
global and therefore advisable.

Wolfgang


Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-12 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2013-11-11, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> On Monday 11 November 2013 14:27:30 Guenter Milde wrote:

...

>> If you plan to typeset German documents or mixed-language documents
>> containing German parts, install texlive-lang-german.

>> > Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live
>> > installed.
>> > 
>> > Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to
>> > solve this.

>> This is only an option, if the use of "ngerman" is not intended and
>> there is no German text in the document.


> It is a purely (American)English chapter for a Springer book (except some 
> of the references, which are in German or French).

In this case, manually removing ngerman (or, if the references are part of
the document, not included via BibTeX, changing the language to English) may
be a last resort.

Generally, I would install and use the language package(s) even for just
one German or French reference title. This ensures proper hyphenation in a
more fail-proof way.

Günter



Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-12 Thread Hugo Hinterberger
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:22:57 +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann  
 wrote:

 ...

It is a purely (American)English chapter for a Springer book (except some
of the references, which are in German or French).


This problem sounds familiar.
It could have to do with default settings (I am assuming that your default  
language for LyX documents is “ngerman”) or copying text from an other LyX  
document.

I also assume that your English only chapter is a file by itself.

What I suggest is to check the Document → Settings → Language → Language  
option to say “English (USA)”. Next select all the text in the file and  
open the Text Style dialogue (Edit → Text Style → Customized...) and use  
the Language option “Reset” (make sure all other options are set to “No  
change”) to “reset” the text language to the language set in the document  
settings.
You have to do this also inside of every inset—resetting the language for  
all text does not work for the content of an inset, even if it is  
selected. If there are multiple levels of insets you have to reset the  
language on every level i.e. select all the inset content and reset the  
language then go to the next inset level and do it again.
Please also keep in mind that LyX preserves language settings of  
copy-pasted text i.e. LyX does NOT apply the destination document language  
to pasted text if the source document is also a LyX document.
One final note: I made those experiences on a Windows system and I prefer  
“vanilla” TeX Live every time - it causes less problems.


Hugo



Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-12 Thread Philipp Gröne

Hi!


It looks like the OP is using Debian/unstable or Debian/testing. This is
"work in progress" and there was a re-structuring of the language support
packages. So I would consider the problem one of the "rough edges" of the
unstable branch, not a Debian bug.


The original poster is running a Debian stable/unstable-mix. I guess that  
is the reason for some of the problems.


Wolfgang, is there any reason why you don't want to run pure  
Debian/testing or unstable installation?


Debian/stable is intended for systems like servers (or the laptops on the  
ISS) where absolute stability is crucial. If one wants/has to use  
up-to-date software on Debian/stable, the installation process is very  
prone to errors.


This is the reason I switched from Ubuntu to Debian testing. Ubuntu is  
based on a more or less dated snapshot of Debian/testing. I spent a week  
trying to install a piece of new software which had a very old version in  
the Ubuntu repositories.
In the end it was a choice between gnawing of one of my feet in  
frustration or trying to install Debian/testing. I never had to regret  
that. Debian/unstable is still incredibly stable, and Debian/testing is  
even more so.
You seem to be tech-savy, able to read and follow instructions and not  
afraid to ask questions. This more than qualifies you to run it.  
Additionally, Debian/testing would lead to much less problems.



If I select this for installation, synaptic is going to remove a lot of  
texlive and other stuff, which I hesitate to do.


To the actual problem:
My guess is a version mixup between the Stable/unstable packages.

You can try this:  sudo apt-get -t unstable install texlive-lang-all ,  
telling your Debian it shall install the newer packages specifically.  
There has to be a way to do that in synaptic directly, but I don't know  
it. Also, you can install the needed language packs specifically,  
texlife-lang-all is 850 Mb large.


The texlive you've installed is the newer version, a dependency of Lyx  
2.0.6. Texlive 2012 and 2013 are mutually exclusive packages.


For my own problem:

In this case, manually removing ngerman (or, if the references are part  
of
the document, not included via BibTeX, changing the language to English)  
may

be a last resort.


The text in question is written in English, and I'm not aware of any  
German reference in it. I've sent the text to a friend to read it, and she  
opened it in a German LyX-installation. Maybe the line was added at this  
point, I haven`t exported this particular file to PDF in a while.


Greetings!
Ph.


Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman' -->solved

2013-11-12 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
On Monday 11 November 2013 14:27:30 Guenter Milde wrote:
> On 2013-11-11, Stephan Witt wrote:
> > Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne 
<philipp.gro...@googlemail.com>:
> >> more serious:
> >> if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get
> >> 
> >> ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled
> >> it (babel)or the language definition file
> >> ngerman.ldf was not found.
> >> 
> >>  and no output.
> >> 
> >> I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian
> >> 
> >> If you want to install more packages instead try either
> >> "texlive-lang-german" or "texlive-lang-all".
> 
> The condition should rather be:
> 
> If you plan to typeset German documents or mixed-language documents
> containing German parts, install texlive-lang-german.
> 
> > Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live
> > installed.
> > 
> > Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to
> > solve this.
> 
> This is only an option, if the use of "ngerman" is not intended and
> there is no German text in the document.
> 
> 
> Günter

I found the cause of the error I was reporting (ngerman)

checking the latex output gave me two places were ngerman is mentioned. In 
both cases I had used an index which (in lyx) was underlined blue and the 
tex text showed:

...  
chronopharmacological\index{chronopharmacology@\selectlanguage{ngerman}%
chronopharmacology\selectlanguage{american}%
} aspects by ...

selecting the index content chronopharmacology and doing in 
bearbeiten>textstyle>language>reset
(which makes the blue underline to disappear)
allowed me get the normal pdf output.

I just want to point this out, since other lyx users might have similar 
issues.

Thanks for all the help.

Wolfgang


Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-12 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
On Tuesday 12 November 2013 11:05:00 Hugo Hinterberger wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:22:57 +0100, Wolfgang Engelmann
> 
>  wrote:
> >>  ...
> > 
> > It is a purely (American)English chapter for a Springer book (except
> > some of the references, which are in German or French).
> 
> This problem sounds familiar.
> It could have to do with default settings (I am assuming that your
> default language for LyX documents is “ngerman”) or copying text from
> an other LyX document.
> I also assume that your English only chapter is a file by itself.
> 
> What I suggest is to check the Document → Settings → Language → Language
> option to say “English (USA)”. Next select all the text in the file and
> open the Text Style dialogue (Edit → Text Style → Customized...) and use
> the Language option “Reset” (make sure all other options are set to “No
> change”) to “reset” the text language to the language set in the
> document settings.
> You have to do this also inside of every inset—resetting the language
> for all text does not work for the content of an inset, even if it is
> selected. If there are multiple levels of insets you have to reset the
> language on every level i.e. select all the inset content and reset the
> language then go to the next inset level and do it again.
> Please also keep in mind that LyX preserves language settings of
> copy-pasted text i.e. LyX does NOT apply the destination document
> language to pasted text if the source document is also a LyX document.
> One final note: I made those experiences on a Windows system and I
> prefer “vanilla” TeX Live every time - it causes less problems.
> 
> Hugo


Thanks, Hugo, for your advice and the specific ngerman question remedy.
I posted my findings before reading your mail. Your suggestion is more 
global and therefore advisable.

Wolfgang


Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Starting lyx gives me this warning on the terminal. Is it something to 
bother about?

 Fontconfig warning: /etc/fonts/conf.d/65-droid-sans-fonts.conf, line 103: 
Having multiple values in test isn't supported and may not work as 
expected
Fontconfig warning: /etc/fonts/conf.d/65-droid-sans-fonts.conf, line 138: 
Having multiple values in test isn't supported and may not work as 
expected

more serious:
if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get

! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled it
(babel)or the language definition file ngerman.ldf was not 
found.

 and no output.

I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian

In the internet I found 

I solve my problem installing all the complements of Texlive from Synaptic
Package manager, to  my computer with Ubuntu 13.10
When I upgrade from Ubuntu 13.04 the newest version of Texlive was
installed but not the language complements and other programs, then
systematic errors araised.
What is meant with all the complements?
In synaptic there is no texlive-lang all under 2013, whereas it is under 2012.
Can I use the 2012 or what would you recommend?

Wolfgang



Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Philipp Gröne

Hi!
more serious:
if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get

! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled it
(babel)or the language definition file ngerman.ldf was not found.

 and no output.

I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under DebianI had the same error while compiling documents, I solved it by manually deleting all lines from the document in question which contained "/ngerman". (By opening them in a text editor and using the search feature) This worked like a charm.This can be due to sheer luck, it is possible that this opens a can of worms in other documents.I advice to make backups before editing the source document manually.(By the way, just commenting it out by adding a # to the beginning of the line in question did not work.)If you want to install more packages instead try either "texlive-lang-german" or "texlive-lang-all".Hope this helped,Ph.

Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne philipp.gro...@googlemail.com:

 Hi!
 
 more serious:
 if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get
  
 ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled it
 (babel)or the language definition file ngerman.ldf was not 
 found.
  
  and no output.
  
 I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian
 
 I had the same error while compiling documents, I solved it by manually 
 deleting all lines from the document in question which contained /ngerman. 
 (By opening them in a text editor and using the search feature) This worked 
 like a charm.
 
 This can be due to sheer luck, it is possible that this opens a can of worms 
 in other documents.
 I advice to make backups before editing the source document manually.
 
 (By the way, just commenting it out by adding a # to the beginning of the 
 line in question did not work.)
 
 If you want to install more packages instead try either texlive-lang-german 
 or texlive-lang-all.

I guess it's the same problem others mentioned already on this list:
It looks like the package dependencies of modern Linux systems doesn't 
include the language packages of TeX-Live anymore.

Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live installed.

Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to solve this.

Stephan

Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2013-11-11, Stephan Witt wrote:
 Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne philipp.gro...@googlemail.com:

 more serious:
 if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get

 ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled it
 (babel)or the language definition file ngerman.ldf was not 
 found.

  and no output.

 I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian

 If you want to install more packages instead try either
 texlive-lang-german or texlive-lang-all.

The condition should rather be: 

If you plan to typeset German documents or mixed-language documents
containing German parts, install texlive-lang-german.

 Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live installed.

 Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to
 solve this.

This is only an option, if the use of ngerman is not intended and there is
no German text in the document.


Günter



Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
On Monday 11 November 2013 11:12:46 Stephan Witt wrote:
 Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne 
philipp.gro...@googlemail.com:
  Hi!
  
  more serious:
  if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get
  
  ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled
  it (babel)or the language definition file ngerman.ldf
  was not found.
  
   and no output.
  
  I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian
  
  I had the same error while compiling documents, I solved it by
  manually deleting all lines from the document in question which
  contained /ngerman. (By opening them in a text editor and using the
  search feature) This worked like a charm.
  
  This can be due to sheer luck, it is possible that this opens a can of
  worms in other documents. I advice to make backups before editing the
  source document manually.
  
  (By the way, just commenting it out by adding a # to the beginning of
  the line in question did not work.)
  
  If you want to install more packages instead try either
  texlive-lang-german or texlive-lang-all.
 
 I guess it's the same problem others mentioned already on this list:
 It looks like the package dependencies of modern Linux systems doesn't
 include the language packages of TeX-Live anymore.
 
 Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live
 installed.
 
 Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to solve
 this.
 
 Stephan


I guess I need texlive-lang-all
which is not in the texlive 2013 of synaptic, but in texlive 2012

If I select this for installation, synaptic is going to remove a lot of 
texlive and other stuff, which I hesitate to do.
 
If I try to install texlive-lang-all by apt-get install,
I get

root@wolfgang:/home/we# apt-get install texlive-lang-all
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.   
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen Fertig
Einige Pakete konnten nicht installiert werden. Das kann bedeuten, dass
Sie eine unmögliche Situation angefordert haben oder, wenn Sie die
Unstable-Distribution verwenden, dass einige erforderliche Pakete noch
nicht erstellt wurden oder Incoming noch nicht verlassen haben.
Die folgenden Informationen helfen Ihnen vielleicht, die Situation zu 
lösen:

Die folgenden Pakete haben unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten:
 texlive-lang-all : Hängt ab von: texlive-lang-latvian (= 2012.20120516) 
soll aber nicht installiert werden
and so on in a long list


what to do??

Wolfgang


Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
On Monday 11 November 2013 14:27:30 Guenter Milde wrote:
 On 2013-11-11, Stephan Witt wrote:
  Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne 
philipp.gro...@googlemail.com:
  more serious:
  if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get
  
  ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled
  it (babel)or the language definition file
  ngerman.ldf was not found.
  
   and no output.
  
  I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian
  
  If you want to install more packages instead try either
  texlive-lang-german or texlive-lang-all.
 
 The condition should rather be:
 
 If you plan to typeset German documents or mixed-language documents
 containing German parts, install texlive-lang-german.
 
  Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live
  installed.
  
  Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to
  solve this.
 
 This is only an option, if the use of ngerman is not intended and
 there is no German text in the document.
 
 
 Günter

It is a purely (American)English chapter for a Springer book (except some 
of the references, which are in German or French).

Wolfgang
-- 
-
Wolfgang Engelmann
Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325


Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread David L. Johnson

On 11/11/2013 01:20 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


On Monday 11 November 2013 11:12:46 Stephan Witt wrote:

 Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne 
philipp.gro...@googlemail.com:


  Hi!

 

  more serious:

  if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get

 

  ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled

  it (babel) or the language definition file ngerman.ldf

  was not found.

 

  and no output.

 

  I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian

 

  I had the same error while compiling documents, I solved it by

  manually deleting all lines from the document in question which

  contained /ngerman. (By opening them in a text editor and using the

  search feature) This worked like a charm.

 

  This can be due to sheer luck, it is possible that this opens a can of

  worms in other documents. I advice to make backups before editing the

  source document manually.

 

  (By the way, just commenting it out by adding a # to the beginning of

  the line in question did not work.)

 

  If you want to install more packages instead try either

  texlive-lang-german or texlive-lang-all.



 I guess it's the same problem others mentioned already on this list:

 It looks like the package dependencies of modern Linux systems doesn't

 include the language packages of TeX-Live anymore.



 Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live

 installed.



 Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to solve

 this.



 Stephan

I guess I need texlive-lang-all

which is not in the texlive 2013 of synaptic, but in texlive 2012

If I select this for installation, synaptic is going to remove a lot 
of texlive and other stuff, which I hesitate to do.


If I try to install texlive-lang-all by apt-get install,

I get

root@wolfgang:/home/we# apt-get install texlive-lang-all

Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig

Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.

Statusinformationen werden eingelesen Fertig

Einige Pakete konnten nicht installiert werden. Das kann bedeuten, dass

Sie eine unmögliche Situation angefordert haben oder, wenn Sie die

Unstable-Distribution verwenden, dass einige erforderliche Pakete noch

nicht erstellt wurden oder Incoming noch nicht verlassen haben.

Die folgenden Informationen helfen Ihnen vielleicht, die Situation zu 
lösen:


Die folgenden Pakete haben unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten:

texlive-lang-all : Hängt ab von: texlive-lang-latvian (= 
2012.20120516) soll aber nicht installiert werden


and so on in a long list

Perhaps instead of trying to install all languages, just install those 
you want to use.  Install them before you install LyX, maybe.


Actually, though, why you can't install all languages is somehow a fault 
of either the package maintainer, or the archive you are using.  What 
came after where you cut this off?  Did it say why it was not going to 
install the Latvian package?  Maybe the file wasn't found?



--
 
David L. Johnson
 
What is objectionable, and what is dangerous about extremists is not

that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.
--Robert F. Kennedy



Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Starting lyx gives me this warning on the terminal. Is it something to 
bother about?

 Fontconfig warning: /etc/fonts/conf.d/65-droid-sans-fonts.conf, line 103: 
Having multiple values in test isn't supported and may not work as 
expected
Fontconfig warning: /etc/fonts/conf.d/65-droid-sans-fonts.conf, line 138: 
Having multiple values in test isn't supported and may not work as 
expected

more serious:
if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get

! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled it
(babel)or the language definition file ngerman.ldf was not 
found.

 and no output.

I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian

In the internet I found 

I solve my problem installing all the complements of Texlive from Synaptic
Package manager, to  my computer with Ubuntu 13.10
When I upgrade from Ubuntu 13.04 the newest version of Texlive was
installed but not the language complements and other programs, then
systematic errors araised.
What is meant with all the complements?
In synaptic there is no texlive-lang all under 2013, whereas it is under 2012.
Can I use the 2012 or what would you recommend?

Wolfgang



Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Philipp Gröne

Hi!
more serious:
if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get

! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled it
(babel)or the language definition file ngerman.ldf was not found.

 and no output.

I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under DebianI had the same error while compiling documents, I solved it by manually deleting all lines from the document in question which contained "/ngerman". (By opening them in a text editor and using the search feature) This worked like a charm.This can be due to sheer luck, it is possible that this opens a can of worms in other documents.I advice to make backups before editing the source document manually.(By the way, just commenting it out by adding a # to the beginning of the line in question did not work.)If you want to install more packages instead try either "texlive-lang-german" or "texlive-lang-all".Hope this helped,Ph.

Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne philipp.gro...@googlemail.com:

 Hi!
 
 more serious:
 if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get
  
 ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled it
 (babel)or the language definition file ngerman.ldf was not 
 found.
  
  and no output.
  
 I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian
 
 I had the same error while compiling documents, I solved it by manually 
 deleting all lines from the document in question which contained /ngerman. 
 (By opening them in a text editor and using the search feature) This worked 
 like a charm.
 
 This can be due to sheer luck, it is possible that this opens a can of worms 
 in other documents.
 I advice to make backups before editing the source document manually.
 
 (By the way, just commenting it out by adding a # to the beginning of the 
 line in question did not work.)
 
 If you want to install more packages instead try either texlive-lang-german 
 or texlive-lang-all.

I guess it's the same problem others mentioned already on this list:
It looks like the package dependencies of modern Linux systems doesn't 
include the language packages of TeX-Live anymore.

Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live installed.

Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to solve this.

Stephan

Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2013-11-11, Stephan Witt wrote:
 Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne philipp.gro...@googlemail.com:

 more serious:
 if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get

 ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled it
 (babel)or the language definition file ngerman.ldf was not 
 found.

  and no output.

 I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian

 If you want to install more packages instead try either
 texlive-lang-german or texlive-lang-all.

The condition should rather be: 

If you plan to typeset German documents or mixed-language documents
containing German parts, install texlive-lang-german.

 Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live installed.

 Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to
 solve this.

This is only an option, if the use of ngerman is not intended and there is
no German text in the document.


Günter



Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
On Monday 11 November 2013 11:12:46 Stephan Witt wrote:
 Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne 
philipp.gro...@googlemail.com:
  Hi!
  
  more serious:
  if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get
  
  ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled
  it (babel)or the language definition file ngerman.ldf
  was not found.
  
   and no output.
  
  I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian
  
  I had the same error while compiling documents, I solved it by
  manually deleting all lines from the document in question which
  contained /ngerman. (By opening them in a text editor and using the
  search feature) This worked like a charm.
  
  This can be due to sheer luck, it is possible that this opens a can of
  worms in other documents. I advice to make backups before editing the
  source document manually.
  
  (By the way, just commenting it out by adding a # to the beginning of
  the line in question did not work.)
  
  If you want to install more packages instead try either
  texlive-lang-german or texlive-lang-all.
 
 I guess it's the same problem others mentioned already on this list:
 It looks like the package dependencies of modern Linux systems doesn't
 include the language packages of TeX-Live anymore.
 
 Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live
 installed.
 
 Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to solve
 this.
 
 Stephan


I guess I need texlive-lang-all
which is not in the texlive 2013 of synaptic, but in texlive 2012

If I select this for installation, synaptic is going to remove a lot of 
texlive and other stuff, which I hesitate to do.
 
If I try to install texlive-lang-all by apt-get install,
I get

root@wolfgang:/home/we# apt-get install texlive-lang-all
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.   
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen Fertig
Einige Pakete konnten nicht installiert werden. Das kann bedeuten, dass
Sie eine unmögliche Situation angefordert haben oder, wenn Sie die
Unstable-Distribution verwenden, dass einige erforderliche Pakete noch
nicht erstellt wurden oder Incoming noch nicht verlassen haben.
Die folgenden Informationen helfen Ihnen vielleicht, die Situation zu 
lösen:

Die folgenden Pakete haben unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten:
 texlive-lang-all : Hängt ab von: texlive-lang-latvian (= 2012.20120516) 
soll aber nicht installiert werden
and so on in a long list


what to do??

Wolfgang


Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
On Monday 11 November 2013 14:27:30 Guenter Milde wrote:
 On 2013-11-11, Stephan Witt wrote:
  Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne 
philipp.gro...@googlemail.com:
  more serious:
  if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get
  
  ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled
  it (babel)or the language definition file
  ngerman.ldf was not found.
  
   and no output.
  
  I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian
  
  If you want to install more packages instead try either
  texlive-lang-german or texlive-lang-all.
 
 The condition should rather be:
 
 If you plan to typeset German documents or mixed-language documents
 containing German parts, install texlive-lang-german.
 
  Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live
  installed.
  
  Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to
  solve this.
 
 This is only an option, if the use of ngerman is not intended and
 there is no German text in the document.
 
 
 Günter

It is a purely (American)English chapter for a Springer book (except some 
of the references, which are in German or French).

Wolfgang
-- 
-
Wolfgang Engelmann
Schlossgartenstrasse 22
D-72070 Tübingen
Tel 07071 68325


Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread David L. Johnson

On 11/11/2013 01:20 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


On Monday 11 November 2013 11:12:46 Stephan Witt wrote:

 Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne 
philipp.gro...@googlemail.com:


  Hi!

 

  more serious:

  if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get

 

  ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled

  it (babel) or the language definition file ngerman.ldf

  was not found.

 

  and no output.

 

  I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian

 

  I had the same error while compiling documents, I solved it by

  manually deleting all lines from the document in question which

  contained /ngerman. (By opening them in a text editor and using the

  search feature) This worked like a charm.

 

  This can be due to sheer luck, it is possible that this opens a can of

  worms in other documents. I advice to make backups before editing the

  source document manually.

 

  (By the way, just commenting it out by adding a # to the beginning of

  the line in question did not work.)

 

  If you want to install more packages instead try either

  texlive-lang-german or texlive-lang-all.



 I guess it's the same problem others mentioned already on this list:

 It looks like the package dependencies of modern Linux systems doesn't

 include the language packages of TeX-Live anymore.



 Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live

 installed.



 Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to solve

 this.



 Stephan

I guess I need texlive-lang-all

which is not in the texlive 2013 of synaptic, but in texlive 2012

If I select this for installation, synaptic is going to remove a lot 
of texlive and other stuff, which I hesitate to do.


If I try to install texlive-lang-all by apt-get install,

I get

root@wolfgang:/home/we# apt-get install texlive-lang-all

Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig

Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.

Statusinformationen werden eingelesen Fertig

Einige Pakete konnten nicht installiert werden. Das kann bedeuten, dass

Sie eine unmögliche Situation angefordert haben oder, wenn Sie die

Unstable-Distribution verwenden, dass einige erforderliche Pakete noch

nicht erstellt wurden oder Incoming noch nicht verlassen haben.

Die folgenden Informationen helfen Ihnen vielleicht, die Situation zu 
lösen:


Die folgenden Pakete haben unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten:

texlive-lang-all : Hängt ab von: texlive-lang-latvian (= 
2012.20120516) soll aber nicht installiert werden


and so on in a long list

Perhaps instead of trying to install all languages, just install those 
you want to use.  Install them before you install LyX, maybe.


Actually, though, why you can't install all languages is somehow a fault 
of either the package maintainer, or the archive you are using.  What 
came after where you cut this off?  Did it say why it was not going to 
install the Latvian package?  Maybe the file wasn't found?



--
 
David L. Johnson
 
What is objectionable, and what is dangerous about extremists is not

that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.
--Robert F. Kennedy



Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Starting lyx gives me this warning on the terminal. Is it something to 
bother about?

 Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-droid-sans-fonts.conf", line 103: 
Having multiple values in  isn't supported and may not work as 
expected
Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-droid-sans-fonts.conf", line 138: 
Having multiple values in  isn't supported and may not work as 
expected

more serious:
if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get

! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled it
(babel)or the language definition file ngerman.ldf was not 
found.

 and no output.

I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian

In the internet I found 

I solve my problem installing all the complements of Texlive from Synaptic
Package manager, to  my computer with Ubuntu 13.10
When I upgrade from Ubuntu 13.04 the newest version of Texlive was
installed but not the language complements and other programs, then
systematic errors araised.
What is meant with "all the complements"?
In synaptic there is no texlive-lang all under 2013, whereas it is under 2012.
Can I use the 2012 or what would you recommend?

Wolfgang



Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Philipp Gröne

Hi!
more serious:
if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get
 
! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled it
(babel)or the language definition file ngerman.ldf was not found.
 
 and no output.
 
I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under DebianI had the same error while compiling documents, I solved it by manually deleting all lines from the document in question which contained "/ngerman". (By opening them in a text editor and using the search feature) This worked like a charm.This can be due to sheer luck, it is possible that this opens a can of worms in other documents.I advice to make backups before editing the source document manually.(By the way, just commenting it out by adding a # to the beginning of the line in question did not work.)If you want to install more packages instead try either "texlive-lang-german" or "texlive-lang-all".Hope this helped,Ph.

Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne <philipp.gro...@googlemail.com>:

> Hi!
> 
> more serious:
> if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get
>  
> ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled it
> (babel)or the language definition file ngerman.ldf was not 
> found.
>  
>  and no output.
>  
> I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian
> 
> I had the same error while compiling documents, I solved it by manually 
> deleting all lines from the document in question which contained "/ngerman". 
> (By opening them in a text editor and using the search feature) This worked 
> like a charm.
> 
> This can be due to sheer luck, it is possible that this opens a can of worms 
> in other documents.
> I advice to make backups before editing the source document manually.
> 
> (By the way, just commenting it out by adding a # to the beginning of the 
> line in question did not work.)
> 
> If you want to install more packages instead try either "texlive-lang-german" 
> or "texlive-lang-all".

I guess it's the same problem others mentioned already on this list:
It looks like the package dependencies of "modern" Linux systems doesn't 
include the language packages of TeX-Live anymore.

Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live installed.

Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to solve this.

Stephan

Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2013-11-11, Stephan Witt wrote:
> Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne <philipp.gro...@googlemail.com>:

>> more serious:
>> if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get

>> ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled it
>> (babel)or the language definition file ngerman.ldf was not 
>> found.

>>  and no output.

>> I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian

>> If you want to install more packages instead try either
>> "texlive-lang-german" or "texlive-lang-all".

The condition should rather be: 

If you plan to typeset German documents or mixed-language documents
containing German parts, install texlive-lang-german.

> Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live installed.

> Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to
> solve this.

This is only an option, if the use of "ngerman" is not intended and there is
no German text in the document.


Günter



Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
On Monday 11 November 2013 11:12:46 Stephan Witt wrote:
> Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne 
<philipp.gro...@googlemail.com>:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > more serious:
> > if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get
> > 
> > ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled
> > it (babel)or the language definition file ngerman.ldf
> > was not found.
> > 
> >  and no output.
> > 
> > I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian
> > 
> > I had the same error while compiling documents, I solved it by
> > manually deleting all lines from the document in question which
> > contained "/ngerman". (By opening them in a text editor and using the
> > search feature) This worked like a charm.
> > 
> > This can be due to sheer luck, it is possible that this opens a can of
> > worms in other documents. I advice to make backups before editing the
> > source document manually.
> > 
> > (By the way, just commenting it out by adding a # to the beginning of
> > the line in question did not work.)
> > 
> > If you want to install more packages instead try either
> > "texlive-lang-german" or "texlive-lang-all".
> 
> I guess it's the same problem others mentioned already on this list:
> It looks like the package dependencies of "modern" Linux systems doesn't
> include the language packages of TeX-Live anymore.
> 
> Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live
> installed.
> 
> Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to solve
> this.
> 
> Stephan


I guess I need texlive-lang-all
which is not in the texlive 2013 of synaptic, but in texlive 2012

If I select this for installation, synaptic is going to remove a lot of 
texlive and other stuff, which I hesitate to do.
 
If I try to install texlive-lang-all by apt-get install,
I get

root@wolfgang:/home/we# apt-get install texlive-lang-all
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.   
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen Fertig
Einige Pakete konnten nicht installiert werden. Das kann bedeuten, dass
Sie eine unmögliche Situation angefordert haben oder, wenn Sie die
Unstable-Distribution verwenden, dass einige erforderliche Pakete noch
nicht erstellt wurden oder Incoming noch nicht verlassen haben.
Die folgenden Informationen helfen Ihnen vielleicht, die Situation zu 
lösen:

Die folgenden Pakete haben unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten:
 texlive-lang-all : Hängt ab von: texlive-lang-latvian (>= 2012.20120516) 
soll aber nicht installiert werden
and so on in a long list


what to do??

Wolfgang


Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
On Monday 11 November 2013 14:27:30 Guenter Milde wrote:
> On 2013-11-11, Stephan Witt wrote:
> > Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne 
<philipp.gro...@googlemail.com>:
> >> more serious:
> >> if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get
> >> 
> >> ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled
> >> it (babel)or the language definition file
> >> ngerman.ldf was not found.
> >> 
> >>  and no output.
> >> 
> >> I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian
> >> 
> >> If you want to install more packages instead try either
> >> "texlive-lang-german" or "texlive-lang-all".
> 
> The condition should rather be:
> 
> If you plan to typeset German documents or mixed-language documents
> containing German parts, install texlive-lang-german.
> 
> > Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live
> > installed.
> > 
> > Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to
> > solve this.
> 
> This is only an option, if the use of "ngerman" is not intended and
> there is no German text in the document.
> 
> 
> Günter

It is a purely (American)English chapter for a Springer book (except some 
of the references, which are in German or French).

Wolfgang
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Re: Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'

2013-11-11 Thread David L. Johnson

On 11/11/2013 01:20 PM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


On Monday 11 November 2013 11:12:46 Stephan Witt wrote:

> Am 11.11.2013 um 10:03 schrieb Philipp Gröne 
<philipp.gro...@googlemail.com>:


> > Hi!

> >

> > more serious:

> > if I try to export a pdf output from my document, I get

> >

> > ! Package babel Error: Unknow option `ngerman'. Either you misspelled

> > it (babel) or the language definition file ngerman.ldf

> > was not found.

> >

> > and no output.

> >

> > I use lyx 2.0.6-1+b1 and texlive 2013 under Debian

> >

> > I had the same error while compiling documents, I solved it by

> > manually deleting all lines from the document in question which

> > contained "/ngerman". (By opening them in a text editor and using the

> > search feature) This worked like a charm.

> >

> > This can be due to sheer luck, it is possible that this opens a can of

> > worms in other documents. I advice to make backups before editing the

> > source document manually.

> >

> > (By the way, just commenting it out by adding a # to the beginning of

> > the line in question did not work.)

> >

> > If you want to install more packages instead try either

> > "texlive-lang-german" or "texlive-lang-all".

>

> I guess it's the same problem others mentioned already on this list:

> It looks like the package dependencies of "modern" Linux systems doesn't

> include the language packages of TeX-Live anymore.

>

> Please check if you have the needed language packs of TeX-Live

> installed.

>

> Editing the LyX files manually seems like a very fragile option to solve

> this.

>

> Stephan

I guess I need texlive-lang-all

which is not in the texlive 2013 of synaptic, but in texlive 2012

If I select this for installation, synaptic is going to remove a lot 
of texlive and other stuff, which I hesitate to do.


If I try to install texlive-lang-all by apt-get install,

I get

root@wolfgang:/home/we# apt-get install texlive-lang-all

Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig

Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.

Statusinformationen werden eingelesen Fertig

Einige Pakete konnten nicht installiert werden. Das kann bedeuten, dass

Sie eine unmögliche Situation angefordert haben oder, wenn Sie die

Unstable-Distribution verwenden, dass einige erforderliche Pakete noch

nicht erstellt wurden oder Incoming noch nicht verlassen haben.

Die folgenden Informationen helfen Ihnen vielleicht, die Situation zu 
lösen:


Die folgenden Pakete haben unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten:

texlive-lang-all : Hängt ab von: texlive-lang-latvian (>= 
2012.20120516) soll aber nicht installiert werden


and so on in a long list

Perhaps instead of trying to install all languages, just install those 
you want to use.  Install them before you install LyX, maybe.


Actually, though, why you can't install all languages is somehow a fault 
of either the package maintainer, or the archive you are using.  What 
came after where you cut this off?  Did it say why it was not going to 
install the Latvian package?  Maybe the file wasn't found?



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