Re: Palatino SUMMARY
Hi,
I did not read the thread but using
Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:
\usepackage{palatino}
outdated since 2001. use
\usepackage{mathpazo}
(or even better \usepackage[sc]{mathpazo} if your latex is new enough)
for better math support (and better \textsc output).
See
http://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/l2tabu/english/l2tabuen.pdf
and
http://dante.ctan.org/CTAN/macros/latex/required/psnfss/psnfss2e.pdf
for hints and reasons.
Yours,
Karsten
--
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| Fon: +49 431 880-1186 |Netzwerkteam des Ökologiezentrum|
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Re: Palatino SUMMARY
Hi,
I did not read the thread but using
Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:
\usepackage{palatino}
outdated since 2001. use
\usepackage{mathpazo}
(or even better \usepackage[sc]{mathpazo} if your latex is new enough)
for better math support (and better \textsc output).
See
http://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/l2tabu/english/l2tabuen.pdf
and
http://dante.ctan.org/CTAN/macros/latex/required/psnfss/psnfss2e.pdf
for hints and reasons.
Yours,
Karsten
--
| ~ Karsten Heymann ~ | Christian-Albrecht-Universität zu Kiel |
| Fon: +49 431 880-1186 |Netzwerkteam des Ökologiezentrum|
| Fax: +49 431 880-4083 | http://www.ecology.uni-kiel.de |
| - Selbständiger EDV-Dienstleister im Auftrag des ÖZK - |
Re: Palatino SUMMARY
Hi,
I did not read the thread but using
Geoffrey Lloyd schrieb:
\usepackage{palatino}
outdated since 2001. use
\usepackage{mathpazo}
(or even better \usepackage[sc]{mathpazo} if your latex is new enough)
for better math support (and better \textsc output).
See
http://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/l2tabu/english/l2tabuen.pdf
and
http://dante.ctan.org/CTAN/macros/latex/required/psnfss/psnfss2e.pdf
for hints and reasons.
Yours,
Karsten
--
| ~ Karsten Heymann ~ | Christian-Albrecht-Universität zu Kiel |
| Fon: +49 431 880-1186 |Netzwerkteam des Ökologiezentrum|
| Fax: +49 431 880-4083 | http://www.ecology.uni-kiel.de |
| - Selbständiger EDV-Dienstleister im Auftrag des ÖZK - |
Palatino SUMMARY
Ok I know it is bad to start a new thread but I
think a number of things need to be listed so that people (me included) aren't
confused.
I am using
\usepackage{palatino}
This provides Type 1 (non-bitmap)
fonts.
The dvi file is perfect-to create the
dvi it makes its fonts from .vf and .pk files (hence the splash about 'making
fonts'). It gets it information from folders such as /Adobe/
dvips produces a perfect ps file.
However both dvipdfm and pdflatex produce files
like the one attached (please look at it as this is the problem). It looks fine
at most magnifications but try 99% (fine) and then 100% (what is happening to
the end of the T and top of the D). Also if you look at the fonts it is
usingthey are URW versions of palatino called palladio.
So mypointsare these
1)If it was a bitmap problem it would mess up all
characters
2)the dvi and pdf files are using different sources
for the fonts
3)it only happens in Adobe
so...
apart from Reader being terrible at scaling why
does the dvi and pdf files use different fonts? Can I get pdflatex to use the
adobe set of fonts?
I know it is triviasl that a T and a D look bad at
one magnification but it got me thinking and the more I have investigated the
font world the more chaotic it seems.
Geoff
pdf1.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
a hint (was Re: Palatino SUMMARY)
On Aug 12, 2005, at 7:57 AM, Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:
Ok I know it is bad to start a new thread but I think a number of
things need to be listed so that people (me included) aren't confused.
I am using
\usepackage{palatino}
This provides Type 1 (non-bitmap) fonts.
The dvi file is perfect - to create the dvi it makes its fonts from
.vf and .pk files (hence the splash about 'making fonts'). It gets it
information from folders such as /Adobe/
dvips produces a perfect ps file.
However both dvipdfm and pdflatex produce files like the one attached
(please look at it as this is the problem). It looks fine at most
magnifications but try 99% (fine) and then 100% (what is happening to
the end of the T and top of the D). Also if you look at the fonts it
is using they are URW versions of palatino called palladio.
So my points are these
1)If it was a bitmap problem it would mess up all characters
2)the dvi and pdf files are using different sources for the fonts
3)it only happens in Adobe
so...
apart from Reader being terrible at scaling why does the dvi and pdf
files use different fonts? Can I get pdflatex to use the adobe set of
fonts?
I know it is triviasl that a T and a D look bad at one magnification
but it got me thinking and the more I have investigated the font world
the more chaotic it seems.
This is a matter of hinting or lack thereof.
Adobe puts a fair bit of effort into hinting, and there're some
techniques which're more or less reserved for their use (forcebold
c.).
URW got their outlines and was mostly marketing them for use in
sign-making equipment --- DTP usage was a late development.
Not sure if this version of Palladio has been edited and auto-hinted,
discarding any manual hinting.
William
--
William Adams, publishing specialist
voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708
www.atlis.com
Palatino SUMMARY
Ok I know it is bad to start a new thread but I
think a number of things need to be listed so that people (me included) aren't
confused.
I am using
\usepackage{palatino}
This provides Type 1 (non-bitmap)
fonts.
The dvi file is perfect-to create the
dvi it makes its fonts from .vf and .pk files (hence the splash about 'making
fonts'). It gets it information from folders such as /Adobe/
dvips produces a perfect ps file.
However both dvipdfm and pdflatex produce files
like the one attached (please look at it as this is the problem). It looks fine
at most magnifications but try 99% (fine) and then 100% (what is happening to
the end of the T and top of the D). Also if you look at the fonts it is
usingthey are URW versions of palatino called palladio.
So mypointsare these
1)If it was a bitmap problem it would mess up all
characters
2)the dvi and pdf files are using different sources
for the fonts
3)it only happens in Adobe
so...
apart from Reader being terrible at scaling why
does the dvi and pdf files use different fonts? Can I get pdflatex to use the
adobe set of fonts?
I know it is triviasl that a T and a D look bad at
one magnification but it got me thinking and the more I have investigated the
font world the more chaotic it seems.
Geoff
pdf1.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
a hint (was Re: Palatino SUMMARY)
On Aug 12, 2005, at 7:57 AM, Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:
Ok I know it is bad to start a new thread but I think a number of
things need to be listed so that people (me included) aren't confused.
I am using
\usepackage{palatino}
This provides Type 1 (non-bitmap) fonts.
The dvi file is perfect - to create the dvi it makes its fonts from
.vf and .pk files (hence the splash about 'making fonts'). It gets it
information from folders such as /Adobe/
dvips produces a perfect ps file.
However both dvipdfm and pdflatex produce files like the one attached
(please look at it as this is the problem). It looks fine at most
magnifications but try 99% (fine) and then 100% (what is happening to
the end of the T and top of the D). Also if you look at the fonts it
is using they are URW versions of palatino called palladio.
So my points are these
1)If it was a bitmap problem it would mess up all characters
2)the dvi and pdf files are using different sources for the fonts
3)it only happens in Adobe
so...
apart from Reader being terrible at scaling why does the dvi and pdf
files use different fonts? Can I get pdflatex to use the adobe set of
fonts?
I know it is triviasl that a T and a D look bad at one magnification
but it got me thinking and the more I have investigated the font world
the more chaotic it seems.
This is a matter of hinting or lack thereof.
Adobe puts a fair bit of effort into hinting, and there're some
techniques which're more or less reserved for their use (forcebold
c.).
URW got their outlines and was mostly marketing them for use in
sign-making equipment --- DTP usage was a late development.
Not sure if this version of Palladio has been edited and auto-hinted,
discarding any manual hinting.
William
--
William Adams, publishing specialist
voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708
www.atlis.com
Palatino SUMMARY
Ok I know it is bad to start a new thread but I
think a number of things need to be listed so that people (me included) aren't
confused.
I am using
\usepackage{palatino}
This provides Type 1 (non-bitmap)
fonts.
The dvi file is perfect - to create the
dvi it makes its fonts from .vf and .pk files (hence the splash about 'making
fonts'). It gets it information from folders such as /Adobe/
dvips produces a perfect ps file.
However both dvipdfm and pdflatex produce files
like the one attached (please look at it as this is the problem). It looks fine
at most magnifications but try 99% (fine) and then 100% (what is happening to
the end of the T and top of the D). Also if you look at the fonts it is
using they are URW versions of palatino called palladio.
So my points are these
1)If it was a bitmap problem it would mess up all
characters
2)the dvi and pdf files are using different sources
for the fonts
3)it only happens in Adobe
so...
apart from Reader being terrible at scaling why
does the dvi and pdf files use different fonts? Can I get pdflatex to use the
adobe set of fonts?
I know it is triviasl that a T and a D look bad at
one magnification but it got me thinking and the more I have investigated the
font world the more chaotic it seems.
Geoff
pdf1.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
a hint (was Re: Palatino SUMMARY)
On Aug 12, 2005, at 7:57 AM, Geoffrey Lloyd wrote:
Ok I know it is bad to start a new thread but I think a number of
things need to be listed so that people (me included) aren't confused.
I am using
\usepackage{palatino}
This provides Type 1 (non-bitmap) fonts.
The dvi file is perfect - to create the dvi it makes its fonts from
.vf and .pk files (hence the splash about 'making fonts'). It gets it
information from folders such as /Adobe/
dvips produces a perfect ps file.
However both dvipdfm and pdflatex produce files like the one attached
(please look at it as this is the problem). It looks fine at most
magnifications but try 99% (fine) and then 100% (what is happening to
the end of the T and top of the D). Also if you look at the fonts it
is using they are URW versions of palatino called palladio.
So my points are these
1)If it was a bitmap problem it would mess up all characters
2)the dvi and pdf files are using different sources for the fonts
3)it only happens in Adobe
so...
apart from Reader being terrible at scaling why does the dvi and pdf
files use different fonts? Can I get pdflatex to use the adobe set of
fonts?
I know it is triviasl that a T and a D look bad at one magnification
but it got me thinking and the more I have investigated the font world
the more chaotic it seems.
This is a matter of hinting or lack thereof.
Adobe puts a fair bit of effort into hinting, and there're some
techniques which're more or less reserved for their use (forcebold
).
URW got their outlines and was mostly marketing them for use in
sign-making equipment --- DTP usage was a late development.
Not sure if this version of Palladio has been edited and auto-hinted,
discarding any manual hinting.
William
--
William Adams, publishing specialist
voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708
www.atlis.com
