Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

2018-04-02 Thread Andrew Parsloe
On 3/04/2018 11:31 a.m., Scott Kostyshak wrote: I propose to change the first part to something like: Your MiKTeX installation must be updated in order for LyX 2.3.0 to work. Choose "Continue" to ... Then, we will give a link to a Wiki page, as discussed before. This will allow us to

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

2018-04-02 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 07:17:57AM +, Baris Erkus wrote: > I have seen many posts to TeX SE, where users encounters this sort of issues. > Most of the time, waiting one or two days solves the issue, which I believe > MikTeX developer(s) fix the associated problem. I've seen many posts like

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

2018-04-02 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 02:38:58PM +, V K wrote: > Sentence "For most users, choosing "Continue" is the appropriate choice."  > sounds definately better. But I am not inexperienced user and for me minimum > information why should I continue (but more specific than only "LyX > requires") is

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

2018-04-02 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 03:02:02AM +, Andrew Parsloe wrote: > Dear Scott, > > MiKTeX 2.9 has been available since 2010 and the *only* version available > since 2014; see https://miktex.org/releases. Hence the message in your > proposed dialogue > >     LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9 or later.

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

2018-04-02 Thread V K
Sentence "For most users, choosing "Continue" is the appropriate choice."  sounds definately better. But I am not inexperienced user and for me minimum information why should I continue (but more specific than only "LyX requires") is better. A lot of detales would be too complex. "More details"

RE: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

2018-04-02 Thread Baris Erkus
Hello, I want to join to this discussion again and would like to clarify my previous post that had suggested a totally different approach. I am a very frequent user of MikTeX in the sense that I update it almost weekly basis. MikTeX is a very “good” TeX system but sometimes it acts

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

2018-04-01 Thread Andrew Parsloe
Dear Scott, MiKTeX 2.9 has been available since 2010 and the *only* version available since 2014; see https://miktex.org/releases. Hence the message in your proposed dialogue     LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9 or later. Your version is X.X.     Choose "Continue" to automatically update

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

2018-04-01 Thread Michael Berger
Hello Scott, the message under #1 sounds clear and unambiguously to. Michael On 01.04.2018 15:05, V K wrote: Message is quite clear, but "If you do not understand this message, you should choose "Continue"." says too little and indirectly states, that user is dumb. I've read previous thread

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

2018-04-01 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sun, Apr 01, 2018 at 04:08:30PM +, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote: > On 04/01/2018 12:02 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 01, 2018 at 01:05:18PM +, V K wrote: > >> I've read previous thread and discussion in lyx-devel. Maybe this sentence > >> can be replayced with warning about

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

2018-04-01 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 04/01/2018 12:02 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2018 at 01:05:18PM +, V K wrote: >> I've read previous thread and discussion in lyx-devel. Maybe this sentence >> can be replayced with warning about not working LyX? Something like "Not >> upgrading MiKTeX can leave LyX in not

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

2018-04-01 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sun, Apr 01, 2018 at 01:05:18PM +, V K wrote: > Message is quite clear, but "If you do not understand this message, you > should choose "Continue"." says too little and indirectly states, that user > is dumb. Another Windows user I talked to in person said the same thing. They said that

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

2018-04-01 Thread V K
Message is quite clear, but "If you do not understand this message, you should choose "Continue"." says too little and indirectly states, that user is dumb. I've read previous thread and discussion in lyx-devel. Maybe this sentence can be replayced with warning about not working LyX? Something

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

2018-03-31 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 07:00:34PM +, Emile Lunardon wrote: > Does updating Miktex require an Internet connection? or can it be done with > the Miktex distribution included in the LyX installation bundle? It requires an internet connection. Scott signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

2018-03-31 Thread Emile Lunardon
Does updating Miktex require an Internet connection? or can it be done with the Miktex distribution included in the LyX installation bundle? 2018-03-31 19:38 GMT+02:00 Scott Kostyshak : > Dear all, > > I have two separate questions: > > 1. If no edits are made to the following

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

2018-03-31 Thread Paul A. Rubin
On 03/31/2018 02:14 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 06:00:36PM +, Paul A. Rubin wrote: It seems clear enough to me, but is "continue" the correct thing to do if you're confused? I haven't used Windows (or MiKTeX) in a while, but I gather there are potential problems with

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

2018-03-31 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 06:00:36PM +, Paul A. Rubin wrote: > It seems clear enough to me, but is "continue" the correct thing to do if > you're confused? I haven't used Windows (or MiKTeX) in a while, but I gather > there are potential problems with doing an update. If that's the case, the >

Re: Feedback on dialog for Windows installer (round 2)

2018-03-31 Thread Paul A. Rubin
On 03/31/2018 01:38 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: Dear all, I have two separate questions: 1. If no edits are made to the following dialog, do you believe the dialog would be confusing to the *average* LyX user on Windows during the LyX 2.3.0 installation process? LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9 or