Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-16 Thread Parul Bali
Hi Ingar, Guenter,

Thanks very much for your inputs.

I finally used Xelatex to generate the PDF with Verdana font. It works very
well, except that it does not support the  `attachfile' package that I use
to attach files to the PDF document. Do you know of any other packages that
Xelatex supports, that can be used to attach files to the PDF.

I first generated a tex file from my Lyx file, and then added the following
lines to the tex file before running the Xelatex command to generate the
PDF.
*\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont{Verdana}*


I got the following warning (however, the PDF got generated without any
attachments) -
Package attachfile Warning: attachfile works _only_ with pdfLaTeX and
_only_ in

(attachfile)PDF-generating mode. For this run, placeholders
wil
l
(attachfile)be substituted for all attachfile commands..



Many thanks in advance,

Parul

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.berlios.dewrote:

 If you really need Verdana, you must use XeTeX. This is not officially
 supported (yet) but there are workarounds. Search for XeTeX at the wiki
 (http://wiki.lyx.org).

 On 2009-06-13, Richard Talley wrote:

  It can be hard to find typefaces that look excellent on paper and on
  screen (and on both Windows and OS X). Sometimes I'll reset a document
  in a different typeface when I print it out. The technical documents
  I'm producing right now I'm putting in Bera (based on Vera Bitstream,
  realist family) as a reasonable compromise.

 Bitstream Vera (or the extended version DejaVy) is the font used by
 OpenOffice: like Verdana it is designed for good appearance in both
 on-screen and printed documents. It is supported in LaTeX by the two
 packages 'bera' (Vera serif) and 'arev' (sans serif with math support).

 Günter




RE: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-16 Thread Ingar Pareliussen

Hi

Sorry, I have not used Xetex yet, so I do not know. But
maybe you can use http://www.accesspdf.com/pdftk/
to fix your attachments in a post process?

However, I haven't used that either, so how 
good a fit it is I do not know.

Ingar


Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-16 Thread Parul Bali
Hi Ingar, Guenter,

Thanks very much for your inputs.

I finally used Xelatex to generate the PDF with Verdana font. It works very
well, except that it does not support the  `attachfile' package that I use
to attach files to the PDF document. Do you know of any other packages that
Xelatex supports, that can be used to attach files to the PDF.

I first generated a tex file from my Lyx file, and then added the following
lines to the tex file before running the Xelatex command to generate the
PDF.
*\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont{Verdana}*


I got the following warning (however, the PDF got generated without any
attachments) -
Package attachfile Warning: attachfile works _only_ with pdfLaTeX and
_only_ in

(attachfile)PDF-generating mode. For this run, placeholders
wil
l
(attachfile)be substituted for all attachfile commands..



Many thanks in advance,

Parul

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.berlios.dewrote:

 If you really need Verdana, you must use XeTeX. This is not officially
 supported (yet) but there are workarounds. Search for XeTeX at the wiki
 (http://wiki.lyx.org).

 On 2009-06-13, Richard Talley wrote:

  It can be hard to find typefaces that look excellent on paper and on
  screen (and on both Windows and OS X). Sometimes I'll reset a document
  in a different typeface when I print it out. The technical documents
  I'm producing right now I'm putting in Bera (based on Vera Bitstream,
  realist family) as a reasonable compromise.

 Bitstream Vera (or the extended version DejaVy) is the font used by
 OpenOffice: like Verdana it is designed for good appearance in both
 on-screen and printed documents. It is supported in LaTeX by the two
 packages 'bera' (Vera serif) and 'arev' (sans serif with math support).

 Günter




RE: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-16 Thread Ingar Pareliussen

Hi

Sorry, I have not used Xetex yet, so I do not know. But
maybe you can use http://www.accesspdf.com/pdftk/
to fix your attachments in a post process?

However, I haven't used that either, so how 
good a fit it is I do not know.

Ingar


Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-16 Thread Parul Bali
Hi Ingar, Guenter,

Thanks very much for your inputs.

I finally used Xelatex to generate the PDF with Verdana font. It works very
well, except that it does not support the  `attachfile' package that I use
to attach files to the PDF document. Do you know of any other packages that
Xelatex supports, that can be used to attach files to the PDF.

I first generated a tex file from my Lyx file, and then added the following
lines to the tex file before running the Xelatex command to generate the
PDF.
*\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont{Verdana}*


I got the following warning (however, the PDF got generated without any
attachments) -
"Package attachfile Warning: attachfile works _only_ with pdfLaTeX and
_only_ in

(attachfile)PDF-generating mode. For this run, placeholders
wil
l
(attachfile)be substituted for all attachfile commands.."



Many thanks in advance,

Parul

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Guenter Milde wrote:

> If you really need Verdana, you must use XeTeX. This is not officially
> supported (yet) but there are workarounds. Search for XeTeX at the wiki
> (http://wiki.lyx.org).
>
> On 2009-06-13, Richard Talley wrote:
>
> > It can be hard to find typefaces that look excellent on paper and on
> > screen (and on both Windows and OS X). Sometimes I'll reset a document
> > in a different typeface when I print it out. The technical documents
> > I'm producing right now I'm putting in Bera (based on Vera Bitstream,
> > realist family) as a reasonable compromise.
>
> Bitstream Vera (or the extended version DejaVy) is the font used by
> OpenOffice: like Verdana it is designed for good appearance in both
> on-screen and printed documents. It is supported in LaTeX by the two
> packages 'bera' (Vera serif) and 'arev' (sans serif with math support).
>
> Günter
>
>


RE: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-16 Thread Ingar Pareliussen

Hi

Sorry, I have not used Xetex yet, so I do not know. But
maybe you can use http://www.accesspdf.com/pdftk/
to fix your attachments in a post process?

However, I haven't used that either, so how 
good a fit it is I do not know.

Ingar


Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-13 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
John Culleton wrote:
 Verdana is Microsoft's name for Helvetica.

I doubt that. Verdana is a genuine development by the font designer Matthew 
Carter. You probably refer to Arial, which is similar (but not identical) to 
Helvetica.

Jürgen


Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-13 Thread Richard Talley
Other than being sans serif typefaces, Helvetica (along with Arial)
have little in common with Verdana.

Consulting both Wikipedia and Bringhurst's 'The Elements of
Typographic Style', Helvetica is in the humanist family of typefaces
and was designed in the 1950's, before digital typography. Verdana is
in the realist family of typefaces and was designed and hinted
specifically to be clear at small sizes on a computer screen.

I see that Wikipedia and Bringhurst disagree on the classification of
Helvetica (Wikipedia putting it among the early sans serif or
Grotesque and Bringhurst putting in the humanist family. I think
Bringhurst is probably the more reliable source.)

It can be hard to find typefaces that look excellent on paper and on
screen (and on both Windows and OS X). Sometimes I'll reset a document
in a different typeface when I print it out. The technical documents
I'm producing right now I'm putting in Bera (based on Vera Bitstream,
realist family) as a reasonable compromise.

-- Rich

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 3:44 AM, Jürgen
Spitzmüllerjuer...@spitzmueller.org wrote:
 John Culleton wrote:
 Verdana is Microsoft's name for Helvetica.

 I doubt that. Verdana is a genuine development by the font designer Matthew
 Carter. You probably refer to Arial, which is similar (but not identical) to
 Helvetica.

 Jürgen



Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-13 Thread Parul Bali
Thanks for all your responses.

Ingar,

I tried using the Winfonts package and followed the instructions in the
README file, but it doesn't seem to work for me.  I'm using a Windows Vista
system, and updated the updmap.cfg and ttf2pk.cfg files, as instructed. I
then refreshed the File name DB for MIKTEK, and ran the udpmap utility. It
didn't give any error, but the font in the resulting PDF was not Verdana.
Would you be able to help?

I came across this FAQ page on Lyx Wiki, where it is described how to make
it work for versions earlier than MIKTEK 2.5.
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinTips
Does anyone have any pointers as to how to make it work with MIKTEK 2.7?

Many thanks,

Parul


On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Ingar Pareliussen 
ingar.parelius...@dmmh.no wrote:

  I guess this package is your best bet.

 http://dante.ctan.org/CTAN/fonts/winfonts/

 Read the README and the winfonts-doc.pdf for more information.

 Ingar



Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-13 Thread Guenter Milde
If you really need Verdana, you must use XeTeX. This is not officially
supported (yet) but there are workarounds. Search for XeTeX at the wiki
(http://wiki.lyx.org).

On 2009-06-13, Richard Talley wrote:

 It can be hard to find typefaces that look excellent on paper and on
 screen (and on both Windows and OS X). Sometimes I'll reset a document
 in a different typeface when I print it out. The technical documents
 I'm producing right now I'm putting in Bera (based on Vera Bitstream,
 realist family) as a reasonable compromise.

Bitstream Vera (or the extended version DejaVy) is the font used by
OpenOffice: like Verdana it is designed for good appearance in both
on-screen and printed documents. It is supported in LaTeX by the two
packages 'bera' (Vera serif) and 'arev' (sans serif with math support).

Günter



Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-13 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
John Culleton wrote:
 Verdana is Microsoft's name for Helvetica.

I doubt that. Verdana is a genuine development by the font designer Matthew 
Carter. You probably refer to Arial, which is similar (but not identical) to 
Helvetica.

Jürgen


Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-13 Thread Richard Talley
Other than being sans serif typefaces, Helvetica (along with Arial)
have little in common with Verdana.

Consulting both Wikipedia and Bringhurst's 'The Elements of
Typographic Style', Helvetica is in the humanist family of typefaces
and was designed in the 1950's, before digital typography. Verdana is
in the realist family of typefaces and was designed and hinted
specifically to be clear at small sizes on a computer screen.

I see that Wikipedia and Bringhurst disagree on the classification of
Helvetica (Wikipedia putting it among the early sans serif or
Grotesque and Bringhurst putting in the humanist family. I think
Bringhurst is probably the more reliable source.)

It can be hard to find typefaces that look excellent on paper and on
screen (and on both Windows and OS X). Sometimes I'll reset a document
in a different typeface when I print it out. The technical documents
I'm producing right now I'm putting in Bera (based on Vera Bitstream,
realist family) as a reasonable compromise.

-- Rich

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 3:44 AM, Jürgen
Spitzmüllerjuer...@spitzmueller.org wrote:
 John Culleton wrote:
 Verdana is Microsoft's name for Helvetica.

 I doubt that. Verdana is a genuine development by the font designer Matthew
 Carter. You probably refer to Arial, which is similar (but not identical) to
 Helvetica.

 Jürgen



Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-13 Thread Parul Bali
Thanks for all your responses.

Ingar,

I tried using the Winfonts package and followed the instructions in the
README file, but it doesn't seem to work for me.  I'm using a Windows Vista
system, and updated the updmap.cfg and ttf2pk.cfg files, as instructed. I
then refreshed the File name DB for MIKTEK, and ran the udpmap utility. It
didn't give any error, but the font in the resulting PDF was not Verdana.
Would you be able to help?

I came across this FAQ page on Lyx Wiki, where it is described how to make
it work for versions earlier than MIKTEK 2.5.
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinTips
Does anyone have any pointers as to how to make it work with MIKTEK 2.7?

Many thanks,

Parul


On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Ingar Pareliussen 
ingar.parelius...@dmmh.no wrote:

  I guess this package is your best bet.

 http://dante.ctan.org/CTAN/fonts/winfonts/

 Read the README and the winfonts-doc.pdf for more information.

 Ingar



Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-13 Thread Guenter Milde
If you really need Verdana, you must use XeTeX. This is not officially
supported (yet) but there are workarounds. Search for XeTeX at the wiki
(http://wiki.lyx.org).

On 2009-06-13, Richard Talley wrote:

 It can be hard to find typefaces that look excellent on paper and on
 screen (and on both Windows and OS X). Sometimes I'll reset a document
 in a different typeface when I print it out. The technical documents
 I'm producing right now I'm putting in Bera (based on Vera Bitstream,
 realist family) as a reasonable compromise.

Bitstream Vera (or the extended version DejaVy) is the font used by
OpenOffice: like Verdana it is designed for good appearance in both
on-screen and printed documents. It is supported in LaTeX by the two
packages 'bera' (Vera serif) and 'arev' (sans serif with math support).

Günter



Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-13 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
John Culleton wrote:
> Verdana is Microsoft's name for Helvetica.

I doubt that. Verdana is a genuine development by the font designer Matthew 
Carter. You probably refer to Arial, which is similar (but not identical) to 
Helvetica.

Jürgen


Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-13 Thread Richard Talley
Other than being sans serif typefaces, Helvetica (along with Arial)
have little in common with Verdana.

Consulting both Wikipedia and Bringhurst's 'The Elements of
Typographic Style', Helvetica is in the humanist family of typefaces
and was designed in the 1950's, before digital typography. Verdana is
in the realist family of typefaces and was designed and hinted
specifically to be clear at small sizes on a computer screen.

I see that Wikipedia and Bringhurst disagree on the classification of
Helvetica (Wikipedia putting it among the early sans serif or
Grotesque and Bringhurst putting in the humanist family. I think
Bringhurst is probably the more reliable source.)

It can be hard to find typefaces that look excellent on paper and on
screen (and on both Windows and OS X). Sometimes I'll reset a document
in a different typeface when I print it out. The technical documents
I'm producing right now I'm putting in Bera (based on Vera Bitstream,
realist family) as a reasonable compromise.

-- Rich

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 3:44 AM, Jürgen
Spitzmüller wrote:
> John Culleton wrote:
>> Verdana is Microsoft's name for Helvetica.
>
> I doubt that. Verdana is a genuine development by the font designer Matthew
> Carter. You probably refer to Arial, which is similar (but not identical) to
> Helvetica.
>
> Jürgen
>


Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-13 Thread Parul Bali
Thanks for all your responses.

Ingar,

I tried using the Winfonts package and followed the instructions in the
README file, but it doesn't seem to work for me.  I'm using a Windows Vista
system, and updated the updmap.cfg and ttf2pk.cfg files, as instructed. I
then refreshed the File name DB for MIKTEK, and ran the udpmap utility. It
didn't give any error, but the font in the resulting PDF was not Verdana.
Would you be able to help?

I came across this FAQ page on Lyx Wiki, where it is described how to make
it work for versions earlier than MIKTEK 2.5.
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinTips
Does anyone have any pointers as to how to make it work with MIKTEK 2.7?

Many thanks,

Parul


On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Ingar Pareliussen <
ingar.parelius...@dmmh.no> wrote:

>  I guess this package is your best bet.
>
> http://dante.ctan.org/CTAN/fonts/winfonts/
>
> Read the README and the winfonts-doc.pdf for more information.
>
> Ingar
>


Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-13 Thread Guenter Milde
If you really need Verdana, you must use XeTeX. This is not officially
supported (yet) but there are workarounds. Search for XeTeX at the wiki
(http://wiki.lyx.org).

On 2009-06-13, Richard Talley wrote:

> It can be hard to find typefaces that look excellent on paper and on
> screen (and on both Windows and OS X). Sometimes I'll reset a document
> in a different typeface when I print it out. The technical documents
> I'm producing right now I'm putting in Bera (based on Vera Bitstream,
> realist family) as a reasonable compromise.

Bitstream Vera (or the extended version DejaVy) is the font used by
OpenOffice: like Verdana it is designed for good appearance in both
on-screen and printed documents. It is supported in LaTeX by the two
packages 'bera' (Vera serif) and 'arev' (sans serif with math support).

Günter



Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-12 Thread John Culleton
On Friday 12 June 2009 10:31:51 am Parul Bali wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 Could you please suggest any good packages that might be
 available if I want Verdana font for the PDF that's generated
 from Lyx, instead of the standard options available in Lyx.

 Thank you.

 Parul

Verdana is Microsoft's name for Helvetica.  Try Helvetica instead. 

-- 
John Culleton
Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95
http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html


Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-12 Thread John Culleton
On Friday 12 June 2009 10:31:51 am Parul Bali wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 Could you please suggest any good packages that might be
 available if I want Verdana font for the PDF that's generated
 from Lyx, instead of the standard options available in Lyx.

 Thank you.

 Parul

Verdana is Microsoft's name for Helvetica.  Try Helvetica instead. 

-- 
John Culleton
Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95
http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html


Re: Need Verdana font for the PDF generated from Lyx

2009-06-12 Thread John Culleton
On Friday 12 June 2009 10:31:51 am Parul Bali wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Could you please suggest any good packages that might be
> available if I want Verdana font for the PDF that's generated
> from Lyx, instead of the standard options available in Lyx.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Parul

Verdana is Microsoft's name for Helvetica.  Try Helvetica instead. 

-- 
John Culleton
Create Book Covers with Scribus/e-book $5.95
http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html