Re: Subtitles

2006-06-15 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 20:25, Steve Litt wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know what I am talking about (you have been warned) but should not this be \renewcommand{\maketitle}{% ? After all \maketitle is already defined. -- José Abílio

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Thursday 15 June 2006 06:06 am, Jose' Matos wrote: On Wednesday 14 June 2006 20:25, Steve Litt wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know what I am talking about (you have been warned) but should not this be \renewcommand{\maketitle}{% ? After all \maketitle is already defined. Hi

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-15 Thread Richard Heck
There's a difference here between \maketitle and [EMAIL PROTECTED], at least if you're modifying one of the existing classes. The former is defined using \newcommand, but the latter is defined using \def. It'd be nice if someone could explain why. Richard Steve Litt wrote: On Thursday 15 June

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-15 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 20:25, Steve Litt wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know what I am talking about (you have been warned) but should not this be \renewcommand{\maketitle}{% ? After all \maketitle is already defined. -- José Abílio

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Thursday 15 June 2006 06:06 am, Jose' Matos wrote: On Wednesday 14 June 2006 20:25, Steve Litt wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know what I am talking about (you have been warned) but should not this be \renewcommand{\maketitle}{% ? After all \maketitle is already defined. Hi

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-15 Thread Richard Heck
There's a difference here between \maketitle and [EMAIL PROTECTED], at least if you're modifying one of the existing classes. The former is defined using \newcommand, but the latter is defined using \def. It'd be nice if someone could explain why. Richard Steve Litt wrote: On Thursday 15 June

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-15 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 20:25, Steve Litt wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know what I am talking about (you have been warned) but should not this be \renewcommand{\maketitle}{% ? After all \maketitle is already defined. -- José Abílio

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Thursday 15 June 2006 06:06 am, Jose' Matos wrote: > On Wednesday 14 June 2006 20:25, Steve Litt wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I don't know what I am talking about (you have been warned) but should not > this be > > \renewcommand{\maketitle}{% > ? > > After all \maketitle is already

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-15 Thread Richard Heck
There's a difference here between \maketitle and [EMAIL PROTECTED], at least if you're modifying one of the existing classes. The former is defined using \newcommand, but the latter is defined using \def. It'd be nice if someone could explain why. Richard Steve Litt wrote: > On Thursday 15 June

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Matej Cepl
Steve Litt wrote: If you notice, most modern books have two lines to their title, as in: === Guide to LaTeX Tools and Techniques for Computer Typesetting === Try this one. Basically it means redefinition of [EMAIL PROTECTED] like this

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Steve Litt
Hi Matej, Looks good from a casual read, and I'll try this, but your email brings up a much more serious topic -- *how the heck did you learn this???* I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's Guide to LaTeX, because I read that book cover to cover and there were no more than a few

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's Guide to LaTeX, because I read that book cover to cover and there were no more than a few sentences on the use of the \let TeX primative. Steve, Have you read Knuth's TeXbook? Rich -- Richard B.

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 18:47, Steve Litt wrote: Hi Matej, Looks good from a casual read, and I'll try this, but your email brings up a much more serious topic -- *how the heck did you learn this???* I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's Guide to LaTeX, because I read that book

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 01:50 pm, Rich Shepard wrote: On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's Guide to LaTeX, because I read that book cover to cover and there were no more than a few sentences on the use of the \let TeX primative. Steve,

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 01:55 pm, Jose' Matos wrote: At least for me LaTeX tips and tricks is always a nice place to start. Thanks Jose, Are you referring to http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi/? SteveT

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 19:12, Steve Litt wrote: Are you referring to http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi/? Yes. Since I am lazy I always go first to http://lyx.org and from there to Herbert's site. :-) SteveT -- José Abílio

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: Not yet. Is it good? Steve, I like it. Is it hugely confusing? That's subjective. I read his series, The Art of Computer Programming, in the mid-1970s just to learn how to be a better FORTRAN coder. Quite readable. I've not yet bought the

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Stephen Harris
Rich Shepard wrote: On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's Guide to LaTeX, because I read that book cover to cover and there were no more than a few sentences on the use of the \let TeX primative. Steve, Have you read Knuth's TeXbook? Rich

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 09:34 am, Matej Cepl wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@empty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] \newpage \null \vskip 2em% \begin{center}%     \let \footnote \thanks     {\LARGE \bfseries [EMAIL PROTECTED] \par}%     [EMAIL PROTECTED]@empty     \else         [EMAIL

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Stephen Harris wrote: The book is available for download at http://www.yunnan.tk/component/option,com_docman/task,cat_view/gid,34/Itemid,78/ Stephen, Once upon a time I had a copy. For whatever reason, it's no longer on my hard drive. Thank you for the reminder. Rich

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Matej Cepl
Steve Litt wrote: If you notice, most modern books have two lines to their title, as in: === Guide to LaTeX Tools and Techniques for Computer Typesetting === Try this one. Basically it means redefinition of [EMAIL PROTECTED] like this

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Steve Litt
Hi Matej, Looks good from a casual read, and I'll try this, but your email brings up a much more serious topic -- *how the heck did you learn this???* I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's Guide to LaTeX, because I read that book cover to cover and there were no more than a few

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's Guide to LaTeX, because I read that book cover to cover and there were no more than a few sentences on the use of the \let TeX primative. Steve, Have you read Knuth's TeXbook? Rich -- Richard B.

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 18:47, Steve Litt wrote: Hi Matej, Looks good from a casual read, and I'll try this, but your email brings up a much more serious topic -- *how the heck did you learn this???* I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's Guide to LaTeX, because I read that book

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 01:50 pm, Rich Shepard wrote: On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's Guide to LaTeX, because I read that book cover to cover and there were no more than a few sentences on the use of the \let TeX primative. Steve,

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 01:55 pm, Jose' Matos wrote: At least for me LaTeX tips and tricks is always a nice place to start. Thanks Jose, Are you referring to http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi/? SteveT

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 19:12, Steve Litt wrote: Are you referring to http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi/? Yes. Since I am lazy I always go first to http://lyx.org and from there to Herbert's site. :-) SteveT -- José Abílio

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: Not yet. Is it good? Steve, I like it. Is it hugely confusing? That's subjective. I read his series, The Art of Computer Programming, in the mid-1970s just to learn how to be a better FORTRAN coder. Quite readable. I've not yet bought the

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Stephen Harris
Rich Shepard wrote: On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's Guide to LaTeX, because I read that book cover to cover and there were no more than a few sentences on the use of the \let TeX primative. Steve, Have you read Knuth's TeXbook? Rich

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 09:34 am, Matej Cepl wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@empty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] \newpage \null \vskip 2em% \begin{center}%     \let \footnote \thanks     {\LARGE \bfseries [EMAIL PROTECTED] \par}%     [EMAIL PROTECTED]@empty     \else         [EMAIL

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Stephen Harris wrote: The book is available for download at http://www.yunnan.tk/component/option,com_docman/task,cat_view/gid,34/Itemid,78/ Stephen, Once upon a time I had a copy. For whatever reason, it's no longer on my hard drive. Thank you for the reminder. Rich

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Matej Cepl
Steve Litt wrote: > If you notice, most modern books have two lines to their title, as in: > > === > Guide to LaTeX > Tools and Techniques for Computer Typesetting > === Try this one. Basically it means redefinition of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Steve Litt
Hi Matej, Looks good from a casual read, and I'll try this, but your email brings up a much more serious topic -- *how the heck did you learn this???* I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's "Guide to LaTeX", because I read that book cover to cover and there were no more than a few

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's "Guide to LaTeX", because I read that book cover to cover and there were no more than a few sentences on the use of the \let TeX primative. Steve, Have you read Knuth's "TeXbook?" Rich -- Richard B.

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 18:47, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi Matej, > > Looks good from a casual read, and I'll try this, but your email brings up > a much more serious topic -- *how the heck did you learn this???* > > I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's "Guide to LaTeX", because I > read

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 01:50 pm, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: > > I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's "Guide to LaTeX", because > > I read that book cover to cover and there were no more than a few > > sentences on the use of the \let TeX primative. >

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 01:55 pm, Jose' Matos wrote: > At least for me "LaTeX tips and tricks" is always a nice place to start. Thanks Jose, Are you referring to http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi/? SteveT

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 19:12, Steve Litt wrote: > Are you referring to http://tug.org/TeXnik/mainFAQ.cgi/? Yes. Since I am lazy I always go first to http://lyx.org and from there to Herbert's site. :-) > SteveT -- José Abílio

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: Not yet. Is it good? Steve, I like it. Is it hugely confusing? That's subjective. I read his series, "The Art of Computer Programming," in the mid-1970s just to learn how to be a better FORTRAN coder. Quite readable. I've not yet bought the

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Stephen Harris
Rich Shepard wrote: On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: I know you didn't learn it in Kopka and Daly's "Guide to LaTeX", because I read that book cover to cover and there were no more than a few sentences on the use of the \let TeX primative. Steve, Have you read Knuth's "TeXbook?"

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 14 June 2006 09:34 am, Matej Cepl wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@empty > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > \newpage > \null > \vskip 2em% > \begin{center}% >     \let \footnote \thanks >     {\LARGE \bfseries [EMAIL PROTECTED] \par}% >     [EMAIL PROTECTED]@empty >     \else >      

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-14 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006, Stephen Harris wrote: The book is available for download at http://www.yunnan.tk/component/option,com_docman/task,cat_view/gid,34/Itemid,78/ Stephen, Once upon a time I had a copy. For whatever reason, it's no longer on my hard drive. Thank you for the reminder. Rich

Subtitles

2006-06-13 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, If you notice, most modern books have two lines to their title, as in: === Guide to LaTeX Tools and Techniques for Computer Typesetting === or === The Cathedral the Bazaar Musings on Linux and Open

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-13 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: Typically, the subtitle is longer than the title and therefore is printed in a smaller font. What I'd like to do is have them both on the title page. I'm using my own derivative of the Book environment for this project. SteveT, Consider deriving

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 05:40 pm, Rich Shepard wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: Typically, the subtitle is longer than the title and therefore is printed in a smaller font. What I'd like to do is have them both on the title page. I'm using my own derivative of the Book

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-13 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: I could revisit that decision, but I've already got a layout that's a derivative of Book, so I'd like to have a lot more reasons to go Koma than just the title page. If the only benefit is just the title page, I'd rather fine tune the title page with

Subtitles

2006-06-13 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, If you notice, most modern books have two lines to their title, as in: === Guide to LaTeX Tools and Techniques for Computer Typesetting === or === The Cathedral the Bazaar Musings on Linux and Open

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-13 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: Typically, the subtitle is longer than the title and therefore is printed in a smaller font. What I'd like to do is have them both on the title page. I'm using my own derivative of the Book environment for this project. SteveT, Consider deriving

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 05:40 pm, Rich Shepard wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: Typically, the subtitle is longer than the title and therefore is printed in a smaller font. What I'd like to do is have them both on the title page. I'm using my own derivative of the Book

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-13 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: I could revisit that decision, but I've already got a layout that's a derivative of Book, so I'd like to have a lot more reasons to go Koma than just the title page. If the only benefit is just the title page, I'd rather fine tune the title page with

Subtitles

2006-06-13 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, If you notice, most modern books have two lines to their title, as in: === Guide to LaTeX Tools and Techniques for Computer Typesetting === or === The Cathedral & the Bazaar Musings on Linux and Open

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-13 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: Typically, the subtitle is longer than the title and therefore is printed in a smaller font. What I'd like to do is have them both on the title page. I'm using my own derivative of the Book environment for this project. SteveT, Consider deriving

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-13 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 05:40 pm, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: > > Typically, the subtitle is longer than the title and therefore is printed > > in a smaller font. What I'd like to do is have them both on the title > > page. > > > > I'm using my own derivative of

Re: Subtitles

2006-06-13 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Steve Litt wrote: I could revisit that decision, but I've already got a layout that's a derivative of Book, so I'd like to have a lot more reasons to go Koma than just the title page. If the only benefit is just the title page, I'd rather fine tune the title page with