Re: Traditional look website

[Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos]

On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 01:57:31PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:

 Well what we really complained about was the background graphics. If it
 is green, blue or whatever other color I don't complain. But yes we could
 have it in blue as the suggestion of Edwin. The rest should have the exact
 same look at www-user.
 
 In short: The only difference should be the background-graphic!

  That was the issue from the begin.
  
  I also agree with this. I were in the meeting trying to force ourselfs no
to introduce new bugs when we discovered that in our backs someone was
trying to remove that beautiful background, that was too much...

  OTH (in case Allan don't see this on friday) the new look is really good,
I like the new menu alot specially since I hate frames... The navegability
is a nightmare with frames on...

Jürgen

-- 
José

Re: Traditional look website

[Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos]

On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 01:57:31PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:

 Well what we really complained about was the background graphics. If it
 is green, blue or whatever other color I don't complain. But yes we could
 have it in blue as the suggestion of Edwin. The rest should have the exact
 same look at www-user.
 
 In short: The only difference should be the background-graphic!

  That was the issue from the begin.
  
  I also agree with this. I were in the meeting trying to force ourselfs no
to introduce new bugs when we discovered that in our backs someone was
trying to remove that beautiful background, that was too much...

  OTH (in case Allan don't see this on friday) the new look is really good,
I like the new menu alot specially since I hate frames... The navegability
is a nightmare with frames on...

Jürgen

-- 
José

Re: Traditional look website

[Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos]

On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 01:57:31PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:

> Well what we really complained about was the background graphics. If it
> is green, blue or whatever other color I don't complain. But yes we could
> have it in blue as the suggestion of Edwin. The rest should have the exact
> same look at www-user.
> 
> In short: The only difference should be the background-graphic!

  That was the issue from the begin.
  
  I also agree with this. I were in the meeting trying to force ourselfs no
to introduce new bugs when we discovered that in our backs someone was
trying to remove that beautiful background, that was too much...

  OTH (in case Allan don't see this on friday) the new look is really good,
I like the new menu alot specially since I hate frames... The navegability
is a nightmare with frames on...

>Jürgen

-- 
José

Re: Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

 Am Donnerstag,  5. Juli 2001 10:16 schrieb Allan Rae:
  I'll fix up the cookie business after dinner... probably call it
  lographics or something unless I get a better suggestion.

 Why not call it: last century edition ;-)

I figured slow would be a nice short compromise.

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: Traditional look website

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Allan == Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Allan Lars, Juergen, JMarc, Kathryn and whoever else, is this
Allan satisfactory?

And could we have the same in blue? :p (actually I tried to see
whether imagemagick is able to perform this kind of trick, but I did
not find the right function).

JMarc

Re: Traditional look website

[Kathryn Andersen]

On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 11:07:41AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Am Donnerstag,  5. Juli 2001 10:16 schrieb Allan Rae:
  I'll fix up the cookie business after dinner... probably call it
  lographics or something unless I get a better suggestion.
 
 Why not call it: last century edition ;-)

LOL!

Kathryn Andersen
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Mel: I thought they liked you.
Doctor: They liked my clothes - clearly not enough.
(Doctor Who: Paradise Towers)
-- 
 _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/  \|   http://www.katspace.com
\_.--.*/|   
  v | #include standard/disclaimer.h
| Melbourne - Victoria - Australia - Southern Hemisphere
Maranatha!  |   - Earth - Sol - Milky Way Galaxy - Universe

Re: Traditional look website

[Kathryn Andersen]

On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 06:16:31PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote:
 
 goto:
 
   http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/www-user/?traditional=1
 
 be aware that the ?traditional variable is not cookied yet so if you
 switch pages or navbar styles you'll have to reenter it.
 
 I think I now have a traditional look that should be identical to old
 except that we never used to have a hover setting for when your mouse
 pointer was over a link.
 
 Netscape doesn't seem to be responding to the hover settings though so it
 at least should look closest to identical.
 
 Lars, Juergen, JMarc, Kathryn and whoever else, is this satisfactory?

Thank you, we have the logo back!

I have looked at it in Netscape 4.7 and in Opera 5... naturally there
are no hover link things in Netscape because it doesn't know about them.
Opera has the hover, and the pinned menu.  Cool.

Kathryn Andersen
(who has been inspired by all this to try to drag her web pages
kicking and screaming up to HTML 4.0 compliance...)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Of course it's a trap!  Let's go down.
-- Cally(Blake's 7: Hostage [B8])
-- 
 _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/  \|   http://www.katspace.com
\_.--.*/|   
  v | #include standard/disclaimer.h
| Melbourne - Victoria - Australia - Southern Hemisphere
Maranatha!  |   - Earth - Sol - Milky Way Galaxy - Universe

Re: Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

 Thank you, we have the logo back!

Yes but do you prefer blue or green logo?

 (who has been inspired by all this to try to drag her web pages
 kicking and screaming up to HTML 4.0 compliance...)

Only HTML4.0?  Get with it girl, XHTML 1.0 is where it's at! ;-)

 Of course it's a trap!  Let's go down.
   -- Cally(Blake's 7: Hostage [B8])

Listen to Cally's wise words.  She's done web page overhauls before.
Yeah, and still plunges in.

Allan. (ARRae)
SPOILER:  Titanic  The ship sinks! Lots of people drown!

Re: Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote:

 On 05-Jul-2001 Allan Rae wrote:

  So,  what do the others who desperately wanted to keep the old look think
  of this new old-look plan of JMarcs? (Lars, Juergen, Kathryn)

 Well what we really complained about was the background graphics. If it
 is green, blue or whatever other color I don't complain. But yes we could
 have it in blue as the suggestion of Edwin. The rest should have the exact
 same look at www-user.

 In short: The only difference should be the background-graphic!

Well, I just committed the old look green bgimage scheme and got a cookie
running.  I looks good.  Maybe I'll worry about changing things around
again next week,  maybe I won't,  try it for a week and then decide.

I wish you'd make your minds up what you want -- could have saved me a
days screwing around.

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

On 5 Jul 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

  Allan == Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Allan The same what? You want a blue banner background as well? Or
 Allan are you referring to doing something to the new improved look?

 I mean have a web site which looks a bit like the new one, but with
 the background image. The image that Edwin just sent seems suitable
 for that.

So now you want the traditional look but with a blue background not
green and with what sorts of link and pinmenu colours?  Same as the new
look?

I thought you lot were whinging because you preferred green graphics for
the background... mumble... mumble... mumble... still can't read
anything... mumble... mumble...

So,  what do the others who desperately wanted to keep the old look think
of this new old-look plan of JMarcs? (Lars, Juergen, Kathryn)

mumble...mumble...mumble...
Allan. (ARRae)

Re: Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

On 5 Jul 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

  Allan == Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Allan Lars, Juergen, JMarc, Kathryn and whoever else, is this
 Allan satisfactory?

 And could we have the same in blue? :p (actually I tried to see
 whether imagemagick is able to perform this kind of trick, but I did
 not find the right function).

The same what?  You want a blue banner background as well?
Or are you referring to doing something to the new improved look?

Allan. (ARRae)

Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

goto:

http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/www-user/?traditional=1

be aware that the ?traditional variable is not cookied yet so if you
switch pages or navbar styles you'll have to reenter it.

I think I now have a traditional look that should be identical to old
except that we never used to have a hover setting for when your mouse
pointer was over a link.

Netscape doesn't seem to be responding to the hover settings though so it
at least should look closest to identical.

Lars, Juergen, JMarc, Kathryn and whoever else, is this satisfactory?

I'll fix up the cookie business after dinner... probably call it
lographics or something unless I get a better suggestion.

##

BTW, Konquerer versions  2.1.1 should be getting the topmenu only and no
option for a sidebar unless you force it manually -- this is because
earlier versions of Konq are a pain in the neck.

However, it seems from Zvezdan's feedback that even Konq-2.1.1 is being
blocked from getting sidebars for some reason so can someone (just a
couple of you or if you see something different to what someone else has
reported) who have Konquerer 2.1.1 please goto:

http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/www-user/browser.php3

and tell me what is the first line after the Browser Test title.  It
should be something like Konquerer/2.1.1 blah blah  but I want to see
what is actually being delivered.

##

There have been a number of changes to the css again and many, many thanks
to Zvezdan for persisting with trying to improve the cross-browser
support.

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: Traditional look website

[Juergen Vigna]

On 05-Jul-2001 Allan Rae wrote:

 So,  what do the others who desperately wanted to keep the old look think
 of this new old-look plan of JMarcs? (Lars, Juergen, Kathryn)

Well what we really complained about was the background graphics. If it
is green, blue or whatever other color I don't complain. But yes we could
have it in blue as the suggestion of Edwin. The rest should have the exact
same look at www-user.

In short: The only difference should be the background-graphic!

   Jürgen

--
-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._
Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Italienallee 13/N   Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253
I-39100 Bozen   Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug
-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._

The number of arguments is unimportant unless some of them are correct.
-- Ralph Hartley

Re: Traditional look website

[Rem]

Dear Allan,

1. It is impossible to make everyone happy
2. Keeping on changing the 'look' of the page is like someone dying his/her
color everyweek or so... Doesn't look give good impression, does it? ;-)

R
- Original Message -
From: Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LyX Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX Users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: Traditional look website


 On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote:

  On 05-Jul-2001 Allan Rae wrote:
 
   So,  what do the others who desperately wanted to keep the old look
think
   of this new old-look plan of JMarcs? (Lars, Juergen, Kathryn)
 
  Well what we really complained about was the background graphics. If it
  is green, blue or whatever other color I don't complain. But yes we
could
  have it in blue as the suggestion of Edwin. The rest should have the
exact
  same look at www-user.
 
  In short: The only difference should be the background-graphic!

 Well, I just committed the old look green bgimage scheme and got a cookie
 running.  I looks good.  Maybe I'll worry about changing things around
 again next week,  maybe I won't,  try it for a week and then decide.

 I wish you'd make your minds up what you want -- could have saved me a
 days screwing around.

 Allan. (ARRae)

Re: Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

 Am Donnerstag,  5. Juli 2001 10:16 schrieb Allan Rae:
  I'll fix up the cookie business after dinner... probably call it
  lographics or something unless I get a better suggestion.

 Why not call it: last century edition ;-)

I figured slow would be a nice short compromise.

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: Traditional look website

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

 Allan == Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Allan Lars, Juergen, JMarc, Kathryn and whoever else, is this
Allan satisfactory?

And could we have the same in blue? :p (actually I tried to see
whether imagemagick is able to perform this kind of trick, but I did
not find the right function).

JMarc

Re: Traditional look website

[Kathryn Andersen]

On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 11:07:41AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Am Donnerstag,  5. Juli 2001 10:16 schrieb Allan Rae:
  I'll fix up the cookie business after dinner... probably call it
  lographics or something unless I get a better suggestion.
 
 Why not call it: last century edition ;-)

LOL!

Kathryn Andersen
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Mel: I thought they liked you.
Doctor: They liked my clothes - clearly not enough.
(Doctor Who: Paradise Towers)
-- 
 _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/  \|   http://www.katspace.com
\_.--.*/|   
  v | #include standard/disclaimer.h
| Melbourne - Victoria - Australia - Southern Hemisphere
Maranatha!  |   - Earth - Sol - Milky Way Galaxy - Universe

Re: Traditional look website

[Kathryn Andersen]

On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 06:16:31PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote:
 
 goto:
 
   http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/www-user/?traditional=1
 
 be aware that the ?traditional variable is not cookied yet so if you
 switch pages or navbar styles you'll have to reenter it.
 
 I think I now have a traditional look that should be identical to old
 except that we never used to have a hover setting for when your mouse
 pointer was over a link.
 
 Netscape doesn't seem to be responding to the hover settings though so it
 at least should look closest to identical.
 
 Lars, Juergen, JMarc, Kathryn and whoever else, is this satisfactory?

Thank you, we have the logo back!

I have looked at it in Netscape 4.7 and in Opera 5... naturally there
are no hover link things in Netscape because it doesn't know about them.
Opera has the hover, and the pinned menu.  Cool.

Kathryn Andersen
(who has been inspired by all this to try to drag her web pages
kicking and screaming up to HTML 4.0 compliance...)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Of course it's a trap!  Let's go down.
-- Cally(Blake's 7: Hostage [B8])
-- 
 _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/  \|   http://www.katspace.com
\_.--.*/|   
  v | #include standard/disclaimer.h
| Melbourne - Victoria - Australia - Southern Hemisphere
Maranatha!  |   - Earth - Sol - Milky Way Galaxy - Universe

Re: Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

 Thank you, we have the logo back!

Yes but do you prefer blue or green logo?

 (who has been inspired by all this to try to drag her web pages
 kicking and screaming up to HTML 4.0 compliance...)

Only HTML4.0?  Get with it girl, XHTML 1.0 is where it's at! ;-)

 Of course it's a trap!  Let's go down.
   -- Cally(Blake's 7: Hostage [B8])

Listen to Cally's wise words.  She's done web page overhauls before.
Yeah, and still plunges in.

Allan. (ARRae)
SPOILER:  Titanic  The ship sinks! Lots of people drown!

Re: Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote:

 On 05-Jul-2001 Allan Rae wrote:

  So,  what do the others who desperately wanted to keep the old look think
  of this new old-look plan of JMarcs? (Lars, Juergen, Kathryn)

 Well what we really complained about was the background graphics. If it
 is green, blue or whatever other color I don't complain. But yes we could
 have it in blue as the suggestion of Edwin. The rest should have the exact
 same look at www-user.

 In short: The only difference should be the background-graphic!

Well, I just committed the old look green bgimage scheme and got a cookie
running.  I looks good.  Maybe I'll worry about changing things around
again next week,  maybe I won't,  try it for a week and then decide.

I wish you'd make your minds up what you want -- could have saved me a
days screwing around.

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

On 5 Jul 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

  Allan == Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Allan The same what? You want a blue banner background as well? Or
 Allan are you referring to doing something to the new improved look?

 I mean have a web site which looks a bit like the new one, but with
 the background image. The image that Edwin just sent seems suitable
 for that.

So now you want the traditional look but with a blue background not
green and with what sorts of link and pinmenu colours?  Same as the new
look?

I thought you lot were whinging because you preferred green graphics for
the background... mumble... mumble... mumble... still can't read
anything... mumble... mumble...

So,  what do the others who desperately wanted to keep the old look think
of this new old-look plan of JMarcs? (Lars, Juergen, Kathryn)

mumble...mumble...mumble...
Allan. (ARRae)

Re: Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

On 5 Jul 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

  Allan == Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Allan Lars, Juergen, JMarc, Kathryn and whoever else, is this
 Allan satisfactory?

 And could we have the same in blue? :p (actually I tried to see
 whether imagemagick is able to perform this kind of trick, but I did
 not find the right function).

The same what?  You want a blue banner background as well?
Or are you referring to doing something to the new improved look?

Allan. (ARRae)

Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

goto:

http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/www-user/?traditional=1

be aware that the ?traditional variable is not cookied yet so if you
switch pages or navbar styles you'll have to reenter it.

I think I now have a traditional look that should be identical to old
except that we never used to have a hover setting for when your mouse
pointer was over a link.

Netscape doesn't seem to be responding to the hover settings though so it
at least should look closest to identical.

Lars, Juergen, JMarc, Kathryn and whoever else, is this satisfactory?

I'll fix up the cookie business after dinner... probably call it
lographics or something unless I get a better suggestion.

##

BTW, Konquerer versions  2.1.1 should be getting the topmenu only and no
option for a sidebar unless you force it manually -- this is because
earlier versions of Konq are a pain in the neck.

However, it seems from Zvezdan's feedback that even Konq-2.1.1 is being
blocked from getting sidebars for some reason so can someone (just a
couple of you or if you see something different to what someone else has
reported) who have Konquerer 2.1.1 please goto:

http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/www-user/browser.php3

and tell me what is the first line after the Browser Test title.  It
should be something like Konquerer/2.1.1 blah blah  but I want to see
what is actually being delivered.

##

There have been a number of changes to the css again and many, many thanks
to Zvezdan for persisting with trying to improve the cross-browser
support.

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: Traditional look website

[Juergen Vigna]

On 05-Jul-2001 Allan Rae wrote:

 So,  what do the others who desperately wanted to keep the old look think
 of this new old-look plan of JMarcs? (Lars, Juergen, Kathryn)

Well what we really complained about was the background graphics. If it
is green, blue or whatever other color I don't complain. But yes we could
have it in blue as the suggestion of Edwin. The rest should have the exact
same look at www-user.

In short: The only difference should be the background-graphic!

   Jürgen

--
-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._
Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Italienallee 13/N   Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253
I-39100 Bozen   Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug
-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._

The number of arguments is unimportant unless some of them are correct.
-- Ralph Hartley

Re: Traditional look website

[Rem]

Dear Allan,

1. It is impossible to make everyone happy
2. Keeping on changing the 'look' of the page is like someone dying his/her
color everyweek or so... Doesn't look give good impression, does it? ;-)

R
- Original Message -
From: Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LyX Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LyX Users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: Traditional look website


 On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote:

  On 05-Jul-2001 Allan Rae wrote:
 
   So,  what do the others who desperately wanted to keep the old look
think
   of this new old-look plan of JMarcs? (Lars, Juergen, Kathryn)
 
  Well what we really complained about was the background graphics. If it
  is green, blue or whatever other color I don't complain. But yes we
could
  have it in blue as the suggestion of Edwin. The rest should have the
exact
  same look at www-user.
 
  In short: The only difference should be the background-graphic!

 Well, I just committed the old look green bgimage scheme and got a cookie
 running.  I looks good.  Maybe I'll worry about changing things around
 again next week,  maybe I won't,  try it for a week and then decide.

 I wish you'd make your minds up what you want -- could have saved me a
 days screwing around.

 Allan. (ARRae)

Re: Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

> Am Donnerstag,  5. Juli 2001 10:16 schrieb Allan Rae:
> > I'll fix up the cookie business after dinner... probably call it
> > lographics or something unless I get a better suggestion.
>
> Why not call it: last century edition ;-)

I figured "slow" would be a nice short compromise.

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: Traditional look website

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

> "Allan" == Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Allan> Lars, Juergen, JMarc, Kathryn and whoever else, is this
Allan> satisfactory?

And could we have the same in blue? :p (actually I tried to see
whether imagemagick is able to perform this kind of trick, but I did
not find the right function).

JMarc

Re: Traditional look website

[Kathryn Andersen]

On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 11:07:41AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Am Donnerstag,  5. Juli 2001 10:16 schrieb Allan Rae:
> > I'll fix up the cookie business after dinner... probably call it
> > lographics or something unless I get a better suggestion.
> 
> Why not call it: last century edition ;-)

LOL!

Kathryn Andersen
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Mel: I thought they liked you.
Doctor: They liked my clothes - clearly not enough.
(Doctor Who: Paradise Towers)
-- 
 _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
/  \|   
\_.--.*/|   
  v | #include "standard/disclaimer.h"
| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere
Maranatha!  |   -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe

Re: Traditional look website

[Kathryn Andersen]

On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 06:16:31PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote:
> 
> goto:
> 
>   http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/www-user/?traditional=1
> 
> be aware that the ?traditional variable is not cookied yet so if you
> switch pages or navbar styles you'll have to reenter it.
> 
> I think I now have a traditional look that should be identical to old
> except that we never used to have a "hover" setting for when your mouse
> pointer was over a link.
> 
> Netscape doesn't seem to be responding to the hover settings though so it
> at least should look closest to identical.
> 
> Lars, Juergen, JMarc, Kathryn and whoever else, is this satisfactory?

Thank you, we have the logo back!

I have looked at it in Netscape 4.7 and in Opera 5... naturally there
are no hover link things in Netscape because it doesn't know about them.
Opera has the hover, and the "pinned" menu.  Cool.

Kathryn Andersen
(who has been inspired by all this to try to drag her web pages
kicking and screaming up to HTML 4.0 compliance...)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
"Of course it's a trap!  Let's go down."
-- Cally(Blake's 7: Hostage [B8])
-- 
 _--_|\ | Kathryn Andersen  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
/  \|   
\_.--.*/|   
  v | #include "standard/disclaimer.h"
| Melbourne -> Victoria -> Australia -> Southern Hemisphere
Maranatha!  |   -> Earth -> Sol -> Milky Way Galaxy -> Universe

Re: Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

> Thank you, we have the logo back!

Yes but do you prefer blue or green logo?

> (who has been inspired by all this to try to drag her web pages
> kicking and screaming up to HTML 4.0 compliance...)

Only HTML4.0?  Get with it girl, XHTML 1.0 is where it's at! ;-)

> "Of course it's a trap!  Let's go down."
>   -- Cally(Blake's 7: Hostage [B8])

Listen to Cally's wise words.  She's done web page overhauls before.
Yeah, and still plunges in.

Allan. (ARRae)
SPOILER:  "Titanic"  The ship sinks! Lots of people drown!

Re: Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote:

> On 05-Jul-2001 Allan Rae wrote:
>
> > So,  what do the others who desperately wanted to keep the old look think
> > of this new old-look plan of JMarcs? (Lars, Juergen, Kathryn)
>
> Well what we really complained about was the background graphics. If it
> is green, blue or whatever other color I don't complain. But yes we could
> have it in blue as the suggestion of Edwin. The rest should have the exact
> same look at www-user.
>
> In short: The only difference should be the background-graphic!

Well, I just committed the old look green bgimage scheme and got a cookie
running.  I looks good.  Maybe I'll worry about changing things around
again next week,  maybe I won't,  try it for a week and then decide.

I wish you'd make your minds up what you want -- could have saved me a
days screwing around.

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

On 5 Jul 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

> > "Allan" == Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Allan> The same what? You want a blue banner background as well? Or
> Allan> are you referring to doing something to the new improved look?
>
> I mean have a web site which looks a bit like the new one, but with
> the background image. The image that Edwin just sent seems suitable
> for that.

So now you want the traditional look but with a blue background not
green and with what sorts of link and pinmenu colours?  Same as the new
look?

I thought you lot were whinging because you preferred green graphics for
the background... mumble... mumble... mumble... still can't read
anything... mumble... mumble...

So,  what do the others who desperately wanted to keep the old look think
of this new old-look plan of JMarcs? (Lars, Juergen, Kathryn)

mumble...mumble...mumble...
Allan. (ARRae)

Re: Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

On 5 Jul 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

> > "Allan" == Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Allan> Lars, Juergen, JMarc, Kathryn and whoever else, is this
> Allan> satisfactory?
>
> And could we have the same in blue? :p (actually I tried to see
> whether imagemagick is able to perform this kind of trick, but I did
> not find the right function).

The same what?  You want a blue banner background as well?
Or are you referring to doing something to the new improved look?

Allan. (ARRae)

Traditional look website

[Allan Rae]

goto:

http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/www-user/?traditional=1

be aware that the ?traditional variable is not cookied yet so if you
switch pages or navbar styles you'll have to reenter it.

I think I now have a traditional look that should be identical to old
except that we never used to have a "hover" setting for when your mouse
pointer was over a link.

Netscape doesn't seem to be responding to the hover settings though so it
at least should look closest to identical.

Lars, Juergen, JMarc, Kathryn and whoever else, is this satisfactory?

I'll fix up the cookie business after dinner... probably call it
lographics or something unless I get a better suggestion.

##

BTW, Konquerer versions < 2.1.1 should be getting the topmenu only and no
option for a sidebar unless you force it manually -- this is because
earlier versions of Konq are a pain in the neck.

However, it seems from Zvezdan's feedback that even Konq-2.1.1 is being
blocked from getting sidebars for some reason so can someone (just a
couple of you or if you see something different to what someone else has
reported) who have Konquerer 2.1.1 please goto:

http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/www-user/browser.php3

and tell me what is the first line after the "Browser Test" title.  It
should be something like "Konquerer/2.1.1 blah blah"  but I want to see
what is actually being delivered.

##

There have been a number of changes to the css again and many, many thanks
to Zvezdan for persisting with trying to improve the cross-browser
support.

Allan. (ARRae)

Re: Traditional look website

[Juergen Vigna]

On 05-Jul-2001 Allan Rae wrote:

> So,  what do the others who desperately wanted to keep the old look think
> of this new old-look plan of JMarcs? (Lars, Juergen, Kathryn)

Well what we really complained about was the background graphics. If it
is green, blue or whatever other color I don't complain. But yes we could
have it in blue as the suggestion of Edwin. The rest should have the exact
same look at www-user.

In short: The only difference should be the background-graphic!

   Jürgen

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Re: Traditional look website

[Rem]

Dear Allan,

1. It is impossible to make everyone happy
2. Keeping on changing the 'look' of the page is like someone dying his/her
color everyweek or so... Doesn't look give good impression, does it? ;-)

R
- Original Message -
From: "Allan Rae" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "LyX Developers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "LyX Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: Traditional look website


> On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote:
>
> > On 05-Jul-2001 Allan Rae wrote:
> >
> > > So,  what do the others who desperately wanted to keep the old look
think
> > > of this new old-look plan of JMarcs? (Lars, Juergen, Kathryn)
> >
> > Well what we really complained about was the background graphics. If it
> > is green, blue or whatever other color I don't complain. But yes we
could
> > have it in blue as the suggestion of Edwin. The rest should have the
exact
> > same look at www-user.
> >
> > In short: The only difference should be the background-graphic!
>
> Well, I just committed the old look green bgimage scheme and got a cookie
> running.  I looks good.  Maybe I'll worry about changing things around
> again next week,  maybe I won't,  try it for a week and then decide.
>
> I wish you'd make your minds up what you want -- could have saved me a
> days screwing around.
>
> Allan. (ARRae)
>