Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-15 Thread ehud.kap...@gmail.com
I agree about UNITY-- I find gnome to be a much better interface, but I 
wanted to try it before I decide, and discovered the menu bug, which 
affects other programs, not only Lyx.

Ehud Kaplan


On 8/11/2011 6:19 PM, Steve Litt wrote:

On Thursday, August 11, 2011 04:03:20 AM ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:

I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps
its appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other
programs, such as VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.
  The bug has been known for almost a year.  Does anyone have a way
of getting around it, short of using gnome instead of Unity?
Thanks,
EK

This response is non-responsive to your question, but...

Unity! Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch!

Never has a worse user interface been conceived or deployed. It even
beats out Windows 7 for lameness.

I have no idea how to fix Unity induced problems in any app, sorry.

I went back to classic when upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04. If a future
Ubuntu ever forces me to go Unity, I'll move away from Ubuntu.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: The Key to Everyday Excellence
http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/key_excellence.htm
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt






Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-15 Thread ehud.kap...@gmail.com
I agree about UNITY-- I find gnome to be a much better interface, but I 
wanted to try it before I decide, and discovered the menu bug, which 
affects other programs, not only Lyx.

Ehud Kaplan


On 8/11/2011 6:19 PM, Steve Litt wrote:

On Thursday, August 11, 2011 04:03:20 AM ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:

I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps
its appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other
programs, such as VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.
  The bug has been known for almost a year.  Does anyone have a way
of getting around it, short of using gnome instead of Unity?
Thanks,
EK

This response is non-responsive to your question, but...

Unity! Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch!

Never has a worse user interface been conceived or deployed. It even
beats out Windows 7 for lameness.

I have no idea how to fix Unity induced problems in any app, sorry.

I went back to classic when upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04. If a future
Ubuntu ever forces me to go Unity, I'll move away from Ubuntu.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: The Key to Everyday Excellence
http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/key_excellence.htm
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt






Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-15 Thread ehud.kap...@gmail.com
I agree about UNITY-- I find gnome to be a much better interface, but I 
wanted to try it before I decide, and discovered the menu bug, which 
affects other programs, not only Lyx.

Ehud Kaplan


On 8/11/2011 6:19 PM, Steve Litt wrote:

On Thursday, August 11, 2011 04:03:20 AM ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:

I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps
its appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other
programs, such as VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.
  The bug has been known for almost a year.  Does anyone have a way
of getting around it, short of using gnome instead of Unity?
Thanks,
EK

This response is non-responsive to your question, but...

Unity! Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch!

Never has a worse user interface been conceived or deployed. It even
beats out Windows 7 for lameness.

I have no idea how to fix Unity induced problems in any app, sorry.

I went back to classic when upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04. If a future
Ubuntu ever forces me to go Unity, I'll move away from Ubuntu.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: The Key to Everyday Excellence
http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/key_excellence.htm
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt






UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread ehud.kap...@gmail.com
I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its 
appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as 
VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.  The bug has been known 
for almost a year.  Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short 
of using gnome instead of Unity?

Thanks,
EK
--



Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:03 AM, ehud.kap...@gmail.com
ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its
 appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as
 VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.  The bug has been known for
 almost a year.  Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short of using
 gnome instead of Unity?

This isn't much different, but I would suggest using Xfce instead of
Unity. Since I always use Xfce, I haven't yet encountered this Unity
bug and haven't investigated it, either. Sorry.

Regards
Liviu


Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Helge Hafting

On 11. aug. 2011 10:03, ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:

I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its
appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as
VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility. The bug has been known
for almost a year. Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short of
using gnome instead of Unity?
Thanks,


If unity has a bug, contact the unity developers. If they are slow in
fixing it - consider using other software.

Gnome is not the only other alternative to unity. Use google or
apt-cache search window manager
to find the many window manager alternatives. Try them out, see if you 
like one that works. I use icewm, and like it because it starts in a 
second or so. (I don't want to wait 5s after logging in...)


Helge Hafting


Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread ehud.kap...@gmail.com
I have tried gnome and KDE, but wanted to try Unity.  The developers 
know of the bug, and it has nothing to do with Lyx-- it has to do 
(apparently) with qt4 and it affects other programs as well.

EK

On 8/11/2011 9:20 AM, Helge Hafting wrote:

On 11. aug. 2011 10:03, ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:

I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its
appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as
VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility. The bug has been known
for almost a year. Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short of
using gnome instead of Unity?
Thanks,


If unity has a bug, contact the unity developers. If they are slow in
fixing it - consider using other software.

Gnome is not the only other alternative to unity. Use google or
apt-cache search window manager
to find the many window manager alternatives. Try them out, see if you 
like one that works. I use icewm, and like it because it starts in a 
second or so. (I don't want to wait 5s after logging in...)


Helge Hafting


--
Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.
Jules and Doris Stein /Research to Prevent Blindness /Professor
*Director*, Center of Excellence for /Computational  System neuroscience,
The Friedman Brain Institute, MSSM/
*Director*, The laboratory of /Visual  Computational Neuroscience/
Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical  Structural Biology
The Mount Sinai School of Medicine
One Gustave Levy Place
New York, NY, 10029


Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Thursday, August 11, 2011 04:03:20 AM ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps
 its appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other
 programs, such as VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.
  The bug has been known for almost a year.  Does anyone have a way
 of getting around it, short of using gnome instead of Unity?
 Thanks,
 EK

This response is non-responsive to your question, but...

Unity! Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch!

Never has a worse user interface been conceived or deployed. It even 
beats out Windows 7 for lameness.

I have no idea how to fix Unity induced problems in any app, sorry. 

I went back to classic when upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04. If a future 
Ubuntu ever forces me to go Unity, I'll move away from Ubuntu.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: The Key to Everyday Excellence
http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/key_excellence.htm
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt



Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Richard Heck
On 08/11/2011 06:19 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
 On Thursday, August 11, 2011 04:03:20 AM ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps
 its appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other
 programs, such as VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.
  The bug has been known for almost a year.  Does anyone have a way
 of getting around it, short of using gnome instead of Unity?
 Thanks,
 EK
 This response is non-responsive to your question, but...

 Unity! Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch!

 Never has a worse user interface been conceived or deployed. It even 
 beats out Windows 7 for lameness.

 I have no idea how to fix Unity induced problems in any app, sorry. 

 I went back to classic when upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04. If a future 
 Ubuntu ever forces me to go Unity, I'll move away from Ubuntu.

I saw it once, too, and fled. It's probably great for netbooks and
tablets, but why would I want to use such a thing on a desktop machine?
And don't get me started about Gnome 3.0

Richard



Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Thursday, August 11, 2011 09:31:47 AM ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have tried gnome and KDE, but wanted to try Unity.  The
 developers know of the bug, and it has nothing to do with Lyx-- it
 has to do (apparently) with qt4 and it affects other programs as
 well. EK

If your purpose is evaluating Unity, I'd suggest you try Unity for five 
hours in which you don't need LyX, or else load it on a different 
machine. If you're anything like me, you'll blow it right off the hard 
drive because it's nothing but frustration. Especially horrid is the 
menu structure, in which you have a few commonly used ones, and the 
rest all thrown into one bucket you need to rummage through.

I found that almost everything I did in Unity took minutes instead of 
seconds or half-seconds. It was an attrocious time-sink. If you're 
anything like me, a simple evaluation without LyX will reveal that 
Unity isn't for you.

SteeT

Steve Litt
Author: The Key to Everyday Excellence
http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/key_excellence.htm
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt



Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Jacob Bishop
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:03 AM, ehud.kap...@gmail.com 
ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:

  I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its
 appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as
 VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.  The bug has been known for
 almost a year.  Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short of using
 gnome instead of Unity?
 Thanks,
 EK
 --


I do actually use LyX with Unity on Ubuntu 11.04. I don't remember if I had
problems with the menus or not. My install is working great at the moment. I
might have had issues, but if so I unfortunately did not document what I did
to work around it.

If you can explain the behavior a bit more, maybe I can help.

Jacob


Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
On 8/11/11 11:25 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
[...]
 I saw it once, too, and fled. It's probably great for netbooks and
 tablets, but why would I want to use such a thing on a desktop machine?
 And don't get me started about Gnome 3.0

I don't even use it on the eeePC

el


Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Jacob Bishop
Ehud,

I did a quick search, and it seems the bug has been fixed upstream:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdbusmenu/+bug/619811

Also, in the meantime, there is a workaround documented here:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/134649

Jacob


UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread ehud.kap...@gmail.com
I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its 
appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as 
VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.  The bug has been known 
for almost a year.  Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short 
of using gnome instead of Unity?

Thanks,
EK
--



Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:03 AM, ehud.kap...@gmail.com
ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its
 appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as
 VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.  The bug has been known for
 almost a year.  Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short of using
 gnome instead of Unity?

This isn't much different, but I would suggest using Xfce instead of
Unity. Since I always use Xfce, I haven't yet encountered this Unity
bug and haven't investigated it, either. Sorry.

Regards
Liviu


Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Helge Hafting

On 11. aug. 2011 10:03, ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:

I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its
appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as
VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility. The bug has been known
for almost a year. Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short of
using gnome instead of Unity?
Thanks,


If unity has a bug, contact the unity developers. If they are slow in
fixing it - consider using other software.

Gnome is not the only other alternative to unity. Use google or
apt-cache search window manager
to find the many window manager alternatives. Try them out, see if you 
like one that works. I use icewm, and like it because it starts in a 
second or so. (I don't want to wait 5s after logging in...)


Helge Hafting


Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread ehud.kap...@gmail.com
I have tried gnome and KDE, but wanted to try Unity.  The developers 
know of the bug, and it has nothing to do with Lyx-- it has to do 
(apparently) with qt4 and it affects other programs as well.

EK

On 8/11/2011 9:20 AM, Helge Hafting wrote:

On 11. aug. 2011 10:03, ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:

I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its
appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as
VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility. The bug has been known
for almost a year. Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short of
using gnome instead of Unity?
Thanks,


If unity has a bug, contact the unity developers. If they are slow in
fixing it - consider using other software.

Gnome is not the only other alternative to unity. Use google or
apt-cache search window manager
to find the many window manager alternatives. Try them out, see if you 
like one that works. I use icewm, and like it because it starts in a 
second or so. (I don't want to wait 5s after logging in...)


Helge Hafting


--
Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.
Jules and Doris Stein /Research to Prevent Blindness /Professor
*Director*, Center of Excellence for /Computational  System neuroscience,
The Friedman Brain Institute, MSSM/
*Director*, The laboratory of /Visual  Computational Neuroscience/
Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical  Structural Biology
The Mount Sinai School of Medicine
One Gustave Levy Place
New York, NY, 10029


Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Thursday, August 11, 2011 04:03:20 AM ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps
 its appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other
 programs, such as VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.
  The bug has been known for almost a year.  Does anyone have a way
 of getting around it, short of using gnome instead of Unity?
 Thanks,
 EK

This response is non-responsive to your question, but...

Unity! Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch!

Never has a worse user interface been conceived or deployed. It even 
beats out Windows 7 for lameness.

I have no idea how to fix Unity induced problems in any app, sorry. 

I went back to classic when upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04. If a future 
Ubuntu ever forces me to go Unity, I'll move away from Ubuntu.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: The Key to Everyday Excellence
http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/key_excellence.htm
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt



Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Richard Heck
On 08/11/2011 06:19 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
 On Thursday, August 11, 2011 04:03:20 AM ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps
 its appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other
 programs, such as VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.
  The bug has been known for almost a year.  Does anyone have a way
 of getting around it, short of using gnome instead of Unity?
 Thanks,
 EK
 This response is non-responsive to your question, but...

 Unity! Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch!

 Never has a worse user interface been conceived or deployed. It even 
 beats out Windows 7 for lameness.

 I have no idea how to fix Unity induced problems in any app, sorry. 

 I went back to classic when upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04. If a future 
 Ubuntu ever forces me to go Unity, I'll move away from Ubuntu.

I saw it once, too, and fled. It's probably great for netbooks and
tablets, but why would I want to use such a thing on a desktop machine?
And don't get me started about Gnome 3.0

Richard



Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Thursday, August 11, 2011 09:31:47 AM ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have tried gnome and KDE, but wanted to try Unity.  The
 developers know of the bug, and it has nothing to do with Lyx-- it
 has to do (apparently) with qt4 and it affects other programs as
 well. EK

If your purpose is evaluating Unity, I'd suggest you try Unity for five 
hours in which you don't need LyX, or else load it on a different 
machine. If you're anything like me, you'll blow it right off the hard 
drive because it's nothing but frustration. Especially horrid is the 
menu structure, in which you have a few commonly used ones, and the 
rest all thrown into one bucket you need to rummage through.

I found that almost everything I did in Unity took minutes instead of 
seconds or half-seconds. It was an attrocious time-sink. If you're 
anything like me, a simple evaluation without LyX will reveal that 
Unity isn't for you.

SteeT

Steve Litt
Author: The Key to Everyday Excellence
http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/key_excellence.htm
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt



Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Jacob Bishop
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:03 AM, ehud.kap...@gmail.com 
ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:

  I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its
 appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as
 VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.  The bug has been known for
 almost a year.  Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short of using
 gnome instead of Unity?
 Thanks,
 EK
 --


I do actually use LyX with Unity on Ubuntu 11.04. I don't remember if I had
problems with the menus or not. My install is working great at the moment. I
might have had issues, but if so I unfortunately did not document what I did
to work around it.

If you can explain the behavior a bit more, maybe I can help.

Jacob


Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
On 8/11/11 11:25 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
[...]
 I saw it once, too, and fled. It's probably great for netbooks and
 tablets, but why would I want to use such a thing on a desktop machine?
 And don't get me started about Gnome 3.0

I don't even use it on the eeePC

el


Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Jacob Bishop
Ehud,

I did a quick search, and it seems the bug has been fixed upstream:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdbusmenu/+bug/619811

Also, in the meantime, there is a workaround documented here:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/134649

Jacob


UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread ehud.kap...@gmail.com
I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its 
appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as 
VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.  The bug has been known 
for almost a year.  Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short 
of using gnome instead of Unity?

Thanks,
EK
--



Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:03 AM, ehud.kap...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its
> appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as
> VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.  The bug has been known for
> almost a year.  Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short of using
> gnome instead of Unity?
>
This isn't much different, but I would suggest using Xfce instead of
Unity. Since I always use Xfce, I haven't yet encountered this Unity
bug and haven't investigated it, either. Sorry.

Regards
Liviu


Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Helge Hafting

On 11. aug. 2011 10:03, ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:

I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its
appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as
VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility. The bug has been known
for almost a year. Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short of
using gnome instead of Unity?
Thanks,


If unity has a bug, contact the unity developers. If they are slow in
fixing it - consider using other software.

Gnome is not the only other alternative to unity. Use google or
apt-cache search window manager
to find the many window manager alternatives. Try them out, see if you 
like one that works. I use icewm, and like it because it starts in a 
second or so. (I don't want to wait 5s after logging in...)


Helge Hafting


Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread ehud.kap...@gmail.com
I have tried gnome and KDE, but wanted to try Unity.  The developers 
know of the bug, and it has nothing to do with Lyx-- it has to do 
(apparently) with qt4 and it affects other programs as well.

EK

On 8/11/2011 9:20 AM, Helge Hafting wrote:

On 11. aug. 2011 10:03, ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:

I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its
appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as
VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility. The bug has been known
for almost a year. Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short of
using gnome instead of Unity?
Thanks,


If unity has a bug, contact the unity developers. If they are slow in
fixing it - consider using other software.

Gnome is not the only other alternative to unity. Use google or
apt-cache search window manager
to find the many window manager alternatives. Try them out, see if you 
like one that works. I use icewm, and like it because it starts in a 
second or so. (I don't want to wait 5s after logging in...)


Helge Hafting


--
Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.
Jules and Doris Stein /Research to Prevent Blindness /Professor
*Director*, Center of Excellence for /Computational & System neuroscience,
The Friedman Brain Institute, MSSM/
*Director*, The laboratory of /Visual & Computational Neuroscience/
Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical & Structural Biology
The Mount Sinai School of Medicine
One Gustave Levy Place
New York, NY, 10029


Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Thursday, August 11, 2011 04:03:20 AM ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps
> its appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other
> programs, such as VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.
>  The bug has been known for almost a year.  Does anyone have a way
> of getting around it, short of using gnome instead of Unity?
> Thanks,
> EK

This response is non-responsive to your question, but...

Unity! Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch!

Never has a worse user interface been conceived or deployed. It even 
beats out Windows 7 for lameness.

I have no idea how to fix Unity induced problems in any app, sorry. 

I went back to classic when upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04. If a future 
Ubuntu ever forces me to go Unity, I'll move away from Ubuntu.

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: The Key to Everyday Excellence
http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/key_excellence.htm
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt



Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Richard Heck
On 08/11/2011 06:19 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Thursday, August 11, 2011 04:03:20 AM ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps
>> its appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other
>> programs, such as VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.
>>  The bug has been known for almost a year.  Does anyone have a way
>> of getting around it, short of using gnome instead of Unity?
>> Thanks,
>> EK
> This response is non-responsive to your question, but...
>
> Unity! Slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch!
>
> Never has a worse user interface been conceived or deployed. It even 
> beats out Windows 7 for lameness.
>
> I have no idea how to fix Unity induced problems in any app, sorry. 
>
> I went back to classic when upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04. If a future 
> Ubuntu ever forces me to go Unity, I'll move away from Ubuntu.
>
I saw it once, too, and fled. It's probably great for netbooks and
tablets, but why would I want to use such a thing on a desktop machine?
And don't get me started about Gnome 3.0

Richard



Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Thursday, August 11, 2011 09:31:47 AM ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have tried gnome and KDE, but wanted to try Unity.  The
> developers know of the bug, and it has nothing to do with Lyx-- it
> has to do (apparently) with qt4 and it affects other programs as
> well. EK

If your purpose is evaluating Unity, I'd suggest you try Unity for five 
hours in which you don't need LyX, or else load it on a different 
machine. If you're anything like me, you'll blow it right off the hard 
drive because it's nothing but frustration. Especially horrid is the 
menu structure, in which you have a few commonly used ones, and the 
rest all thrown into one bucket you need to rummage through.

I found that almost everything I did in Unity took minutes instead of 
seconds or half-seconds. It was an attrocious time-sink. If you're 
anything like me, a simple evaluation without LyX will reveal that 
Unity isn't for you.

SteeT

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Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Jacob Bishop
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 2:03 AM, ehud.kap...@gmail.com <
ehud.kap...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  I have discovered that the new Ubuntu 11.04 GUI Unity (or perhaps its
> appmenu) kills the menus on Lyx 2.0 (and several other programs, such as
> VLC), possibly because of a qt4 incompatibility.  The bug has been known for
> almost a year.  Does anyone have a way of getting around it, short of using
> gnome instead of Unity?
> Thanks,
> EK
> --
>

I do actually use LyX with Unity on Ubuntu 11.04. I don't remember if I had
problems with the menus or not. My install is working great at the moment. I
might have had issues, but if so I unfortunately did not document what I did
to work around it.

If you can explain the behavior a bit more, maybe I can help.

Jacob


Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
On 8/11/11 11:25 PM, Richard Heck wrote:
[...]
> I saw it once, too, and fled. It's probably great for netbooks and
> tablets, but why would I want to use such a thing on a desktop machine?
> And don't get me started about Gnome 3.0

I don't even use it on the eeePC

el


Re: UNITY (in Ubuntu) kills menus

2011-08-11 Thread Jacob Bishop
Ehud,

I did a quick search, and it seems the bug has been fixed upstream:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdbusmenu/+bug/619811

Also, in the meantime, there is a workaround documented here:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/134649

Jacob