Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-05 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 4, 2012, at 11:39 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote:

 I haven't used OO for some time, but as I recall the first line of an
 XHTML file confuses it. Open the XHTML file with Vim or a read editor
 like Emacs (sorry, couln't resist) and delete the first line.
 
 I think you will have better luck with the Lyx - XHTML  OO  Word
 route than with other converters.

Thanks, Alan. No offense regarding Emacs. I have no experience with it. I just 
know I love Vim. -;)

I'll give your suggestion a try. As a result of suggestions here regarding the 
lyx  xhtml  LO  doc [or rtf] route, I've installed LO and didn't have good 
luck on the first try with it either. I'll give your suggestion a try on it, 
too.  

--
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net

Any assurance economists pretend to with 
regard to cause and effect is merely a pose.

- Emanuel Derman








Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-05 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 4, 2012, at 11:39 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote:

 I haven't used OO for some time, but as I recall the first line of an
 XHTML file confuses it. Open the XHTML file with Vim or a read editor
 like Emacs (sorry, couln't resist) and delete the first line.
 
 I think you will have better luck with the Lyx - XHTML  OO  Word
 route than with other converters.

Thanks, Alan. No offense regarding Emacs. I have no experience with it. I just 
know I love Vim. -;)

I'll give your suggestion a try. As a result of suggestions here regarding the 
lyx  xhtml  LO  doc [or rtf] route, I've installed LO and didn't have good 
luck on the first try with it either. I'll give your suggestion a try on it, 
too.  

--
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net

Any assurance economists pretend to with 
regard to cause and effect is merely a pose.

- Emanuel Derman








Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-05 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 4, 2012, at 11:39 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote:

> I haven't used OO for some time, but as I recall the first line of an
> XHTML file confuses it. Open the XHTML file with Vim or a read editor
> like Emacs (sorry, couln't resist) and delete the first line.
> 
> I think you will have better luck with the Lyx -> XHTML > OO > Word
> route than with other converters.

Thanks, Alan. No offense regarding Emacs. I have no experience with it. I just 
know I love Vim. -;)

I'll give your suggestion a try. As a result of suggestions here regarding the 
lyx > xhtml > LO > doc [or rtf] route, I've installed LO and didn't have good 
luck on the first try with it either. I'll give your suggestion a try on it, 
too.  

--
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net

"Any assurance economists pretend to with 
regard to cause and effect is merely a pose."

- Emanuel Derman








Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

 make checkmake install

Thanks Eberhard. I did 'make  make install.' Did I miss anything my not 
including 'check'? [I'm on a mac.]

--
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net

Any assurance economists pretend to with 
regard to cause and effect is merely a pose.

- Emanuel Derman








Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Stephan Witt wrote:

 You may consider to use macports.

Thanks, Stephan. I was discouraged by a guy that helped on the mac support 
forums not to use things like macports or homebrew. I don't remember the 
reason, but I've played it safe since.

In any case, I went ahead and compiled. Only problem was locating and 
downloading xcode. [It was my first ever---as I recall--compile.] Seems to have 
gone through without a hitch.

Sincerely,
--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA
eew...@bellsouth.net

A man should be in the world as though he were not in it 
so that it will be no worse because of his life. 

- Wendell Berry 



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Eric Weir

As indicated in an earlier post, I've installed latex2rtf. When I do 'latex2rtf 
filename' I get '(Not set):1   Cannot open filename.' 

What else do I need to do?

Thanks,

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA  USA
eew...@bellsouth.net

Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred. 

- Amos Oz



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 While I'm at it, what is the view rich text format in the view other 
 formats button for? Does it become available when latex2rtf is installed?

 I think so. For a more reliable indicator of what works, check the
 View  View (Other) menu item. But as far as RTF is concerned, the
 better option is File  Export.

 I've installed latex2rtf. On my system, that is. It's not showing up under 
 'view other formats' or 'file  export' or 'file  export  other formats.'

Tools  Reconfigure? And restart LyX?

Liviu


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 4, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 I've installed latex2rtf. On my system, that is. It's not showing up under 
 'view other formats' or 'file  export' or 'file  export  other formats.
 
 Tools  Reconfigure? And restart LyX?

Did that. Quit and restarted and did it again. Still not showing up.

--
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net

Any assurance economists pretend to with 
regard to cause and effect is merely a pose.

- Emanuel Derman








Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Alan L Tyree

Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net writes:

 On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

 If you want to export to RTF, then you need to install latex2rtf or some 
 similar program. But I've had better luck lately exporting to the LyXHTML 
 format, and then loading that in LibreOffice.

 I tried opening the XHTML in OpenOffice. It reads it as a raw text document, 
 i.e., with the HTML code displayed instead of formatted. Would LibreOffice 
 handle it differently? 

Eric,
I haven't used OO for some time, but as I recall the first line of an
XHTML file confuses it. Open the XHTML file with Vim or a read editor
like Emacs (sorry, couln't resist) and delete the first line.

I think you will have better luck with the Lyx - XHTML  OO  Word
route than with other converters.

Cheers,
Alan


 --
 Eric Weir
 Program and Resource Development ~ Evaluation ~ Writing
 Education ~ The Environment ~ Community Development
  Clairemont Avenue J3 ~ Decatur, GA 30030
 404-636-6142 ~ eew...@bellsouth.net

-- 
Alan L Tyree   http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan
Tel:  04 2748 6206 sip:172...@iptel.org


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

 make checkmake install

Thanks Eberhard. I did 'make  make install.' Did I miss anything my not 
including 'check'? [I'm on a mac.]

--
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net

Any assurance economists pretend to with 
regard to cause and effect is merely a pose.

- Emanuel Derman








Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Stephan Witt wrote:

 You may consider to use macports.

Thanks, Stephan. I was discouraged by a guy that helped on the mac support 
forums not to use things like macports or homebrew. I don't remember the 
reason, but I've played it safe since.

In any case, I went ahead and compiled. Only problem was locating and 
downloading xcode. [It was my first ever---as I recall--compile.] Seems to have 
gone through without a hitch.

Sincerely,
--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA
eew...@bellsouth.net

A man should be in the world as though he were not in it 
so that it will be no worse because of his life. 

- Wendell Berry 



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Eric Weir

As indicated in an earlier post, I've installed latex2rtf. When I do 'latex2rtf 
filename' I get '(Not set):1   Cannot open filename.' 

What else do I need to do?

Thanks,

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA  USA
eew...@bellsouth.net

Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred. 

- Amos Oz



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 While I'm at it, what is the view rich text format in the view other 
 formats button for? Does it become available when latex2rtf is installed?

 I think so. For a more reliable indicator of what works, check the
 View  View (Other) menu item. But as far as RTF is concerned, the
 better option is File  Export.

 I've installed latex2rtf. On my system, that is. It's not showing up under 
 'view other formats' or 'file  export' or 'file  export  other formats.'

Tools  Reconfigure? And restart LyX?

Liviu


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 4, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 I've installed latex2rtf. On my system, that is. It's not showing up under 
 'view other formats' or 'file  export' or 'file  export  other formats.
 
 Tools  Reconfigure? And restart LyX?

Did that. Quit and restarted and did it again. Still not showing up.

--
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net

Any assurance economists pretend to with 
regard to cause and effect is merely a pose.

- Emanuel Derman








Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Alan L Tyree

Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net writes:

 On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

 If you want to export to RTF, then you need to install latex2rtf or some 
 similar program. But I've had better luck lately exporting to the LyXHTML 
 format, and then loading that in LibreOffice.

 I tried opening the XHTML in OpenOffice. It reads it as a raw text document, 
 i.e., with the HTML code displayed instead of formatted. Would LibreOffice 
 handle it differently? 

Eric,
I haven't used OO for some time, but as I recall the first line of an
XHTML file confuses it. Open the XHTML file with Vim or a read editor
like Emacs (sorry, couln't resist) and delete the first line.

I think you will have better luck with the Lyx - XHTML  OO  Word
route than with other converters.

Cheers,
Alan


 --
 Eric Weir
 Program and Resource Development ~ Evaluation ~ Writing
 Education ~ The Environment ~ Community Development
  Clairemont Avenue J3 ~ Decatur, GA 30030
 404-636-6142 ~ eew...@bellsouth.net

-- 
Alan L Tyree   http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan
Tel:  04 2748 6206 sip:172...@iptel.org


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

> make check& install

Thanks Eberhard. I did 'make && make install.' Did I miss anything my not 
including 'check'? [I'm on a mac.]

--
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net

"Any assurance economists pretend to with 
regard to cause and effect is merely a pose."

- Emanuel Derman








Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Stephan Witt wrote:

> You may consider to use macports.

Thanks, Stephan. I was discouraged by a guy that helped on the mac support 
forums not to use things like macports or homebrew. I don't remember the 
reason, but I've played it safe since.

In any case, I went ahead and compiled. Only problem was locating and 
downloading xcode. [It was my first ever---as I recall--compile.] Seems to have 
gone through without a hitch.

Sincerely,
--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA
eew...@bellsouth.net

"A man should be in the world as though he were not in it 
so that it will be no worse because of his life." 

- Wendell Berry 



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Eric Weir

As indicated in an earlier post, I've installed latex2rtf. When I do 'latex2rtf 
filename' I get '(Not set):1   Cannot open filename.' 

What else do I need to do?

Thanks,

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA  USA
eew...@bellsouth.net

"Imagining the other is a powerful antidote to fanaticism and hatred." 

- Amos Oz



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
>
>>> While I'm at it, what is the "view rich text format" in the "view other 
>>> formats" button for? Does it become available when latex2rtf is installed?
>>>
>> I think so. For a more reliable indicator of what works, check the
>> View > View (Other) menu item. But as far as RTF is concerned, the
>> better option is File > Export.
>
> I've installed latex2rtf. On my system, that is. It's not showing up under 
> 'view other formats' or 'file > export' or 'file > export > other formats.'
>
Tools > Reconfigure? And restart LyX?

Liviu


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 4, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> 
>> I've installed latex2rtf. On my system, that is. It's not showing up under 
>> 'view other formats' or 'file > export' or 'file > export > other formats.
> 
> Tools > Reconfigure? And restart LyX?

Did that. Quit and restarted and did it again. Still not showing up.

--
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net

"Any assurance economists pretend to with 
regard to cause and effect is merely a pose."

- Emanuel Derman








Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-04 Thread Alan L Tyree

Eric Weir  writes:

> On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Richard Heck wrote:
>
>> If you want to export to RTF, then you need to install latex2rtf or some 
>> similar program. But I've had better luck lately exporting to the LyXHTML 
>> format, and then loading that in LibreOffice.
>
> I tried opening the XHTML in OpenOffice. It reads it as a raw text document, 
> i.e., with the HTML code displayed instead of formatted. Would LibreOffice 
> handle it differently? 

Eric,
I haven't used OO for some time, but as I recall the first line of an
XHTML file confuses it. Open the XHTML file with Vim or a read editor
like Emacs (sorry, couln't resist) and delete the first line.

I think you will have better luck with the Lyx -> XHTML > OO > Word
route than with other converters.

Cheers,
Alan

>
> --
> Eric Weir
> Program and Resource Development ~ Evaluation ~ Writing
> Education ~ The Environment ~ Community Development
>  Clairemont Avenue J3 ~ Decatur, GA 30030
> 404-636-6142 ~ eew...@bellsouth.net

-- 
Alan L Tyree   http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan
Tel:  04 2748 6206 sip:172...@iptel.org


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Jerry

On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:10 AM, Eric Weir wrote:

 
 I've been away from LyX for a while, writing in Vim. I now have a document 
 that I need to cut down to 3,500 words from just under 5,000, put references 
 in, and get into APA format in Word. Normally, I would dump the draft in 
 Scrivener, do this work, then compile for Word. I really want to get 
 completely over into working within Vim/LyX/LaTeX. I'm considering dumping 
 the draft in LyX and working from within it. My deadline---probably not a 
 hard one---is tomorrow.
 
 Having been away from LyX for a while, I'm a little rusty. I don't know if 
 this is even possible. When I click on View other formats, the RTF format 
 is greyed out. If in fact I can compile for or export to RTF, I'd like to 
 give it a try.

I started a new thread that might be of interest to this one (and how many 
before?):

The thread is Anyone convert LyX to ODT or docx using pandoc?

Jerry

Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 1:25 AM, Ray Rashif wrote:

 On 2 August 2012 03:23, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 My document is simple. Headings and footnotes. About ten pages. I'd like to 
 see if the LaTeX to RTF convertor will handle it.
 
 For this case latex2rtf is the perfect tool. When you have no images,
 you're in luck. latex2rtf does the job - I've been using it for
 several weeks already.

Thanks, Ray. Good to hear. I don't see any of my documents every getting more 
complicated than this. Longer, maybe, but never more complicated. 

Maybe you could give me a little help with latext2rtf? Like, where do I get it? 
[Is it in the lyx pacage?] How do I install it? [Is it installed to lyx or 
independently of it?] How do I invoke it? [From within lyx or the terminal or 
some other way?]

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA
eew...@bellsouth.net

I have a mind-set that says bipartisanship ought to consist of 
the Democrats coming to the Republican point of view.

- Richard Mourdock



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Eric Weir

Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how to 
install latex2rtf?

On Aug 2, 2012, at 1:51 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

 Reconfigure.
 Reconfigure.
 Reconfigure.
 
 el
 
 On 2012-07-31 20:22 , Eric Weir wrote:
 
 On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 
 Importing/Exporting RTF/Word documents is usually a pain with
 LyX/LaTeX.
 
 Why is the RTF option under View other formats greyed out?
 
 --
 Eric Weir
 Decatur, GA
 eew...@bellsouth.net
 
 What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, 
 men would die from a great loneliness of spirit. 
 
 - Chief Seattle
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA  USA
eew...@bellsouth.net

Hatred destroys. Love heals.

- Eknath Easwaran



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:04 AM, Jerry wrote:

 I started a new thread that might be of interest to this one (and how many 
 before?):
 
 The thread is Anyone convert LyX to ODT or docx using pandoc?

Good. Pandoc intrigues me, too. 

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA
eew...@bellsouth.net

I have a mind-set that says bipartisanship ought to consist of 
the Democrats coming to the Republican point of view.

- Richard Mourdock



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Ray Rashif
On 2 August 2012 17:39, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 On Aug 2, 2012, at 1:25 AM, Ray Rashif wrote:

 On 2 August 2012 03:23, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 My document is simple. Headings and footnotes. About ten pages. I'd like to 
 see if the LaTeX to RTF convertor will handle it.

 For this case latex2rtf is the perfect tool. When you have no images,
 you're in luck. latex2rtf does the job - I've been using it for
 several weeks already.

 Thanks, Ray. Good to hear. I don't see any of my documents every getting more 
 complicated than this. Longer, maybe, but never more complicated.

 Maybe you could give me a little help with latext2rtf? Like, where do I get 
 it? [Is it in the lyx pacage?] How do I install it? [Is it installed to lyx 
 or independently of it?] How do I invoke it? [From within lyx or the terminal 
 or some other way?]

Hi Eric you have been given the link to latex2rtf a few times. There
is no mac binary to be seen so probably that's the reason why you're
confused. You have to compile it on your mac, or find a binary [1].

[1] http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Developer-Tools/latex2rtf.shtml


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Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how to 
 install latex2rtf?

I took a look at the project's SF page and it seems to me that they're
not providing binaries for Mac. If this is so, you may either compile
the converter from source (likely a big headache in itself), or use
Windows or Linux to proceed: On both latex2rtf can be easily
installed.

Liviu


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Ray Rashif
On 2 August 2012 21:25, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how to 
 install latex2rtf?

 I took a look at the project's SF page and it seems to me that they're
 not providing binaries for Mac. If this is so, you may either compile
 the converter from source (likely a big headache in itself), or use
 Windows or Linux to proceed: On both latex2rtf can be easily
 installed.

If the softpedia binary doesn't cut it, set up Homebrew [1] and
install the latex2rtf package/formula. You will probably also need to
download XCode.

Otherwise you can download XCode alone and just build latex2rtf
manually. The make file should require no changes. Just go into the
unzipped folder of the unix source archive and type 'make  sudo make
install' from terminal. Homebrew (and similarly MacPorts and Fink)
just automates all this stuff for you on a systemwide scale.

[1] http://mxcl.github.com/homebrew/

Caveat: I'm not a Mac user.


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GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Ray Rashif wrote:

 On 2 August 2012 21:25, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how to 
 install latex2rtf?
 
 I took a look at the project's SF page and it seems to me that they're
 not providing binaries for Mac. If this is so, you may either compile
 the converter from source (likely a big headache in itself), or use
 Windows or Linux to proceed: On both latex2rtf can be easily
 installed.
 
 If the softpedia binary doesn't cut it, set up Homebrew [1] and
 install the latex2rtf package/formula. You will probably also need to
 download XCode.
 
 Otherwise you can download XCode alone and just build latex2rtf
 manually. The make file should require no changes. Just go into the
 unzipped folder of the unix source archive and type 'make  sudo make
 install' from terminal. Homebrew (and similarly MacPorts and Fink)
 just automates all this stuff for you on a systemwide scale.

Thanks, Ray---and Liviu, too. Sorry, if I was given the link to latex2rtf I 
didn't realize It. Probably because I was assuming it was a script somewhere in 
the lyx package, or maybe in my tex/latex install, and that I just needed 
either to get it recognize by lyx or learn how to run it from the terminal. 

I've downloaded the source, and have located a discussion with pretty clear 
instructions of how to compile it. I'll be giving it a shot, but probably not 
till the weekend.

Thanks again,
--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA
eew...@bellsouth.net

I have a mind-set that says bipartisanship ought to consist of 
the Democrats coming to the Republican point of view.

- Richard Mourdock



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 I've downloaded the source, and have located a discussion with pretty clear 
 instructions of how to compile it. I'll be giving it a shot, but probably not 
 till the weekend.

In the mean time, you might have some luck by exporting to LyXHTML and
importing into LibO, or by exporting to HTML after installing eLyXer
(link provided previously, or simply search on Google) and
reconfiguring LyX.

Liviu


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 I've downloaded the source, and have located a discussion with pretty clear 
 instructions of how to compile it. I'll be giving it a shot, but probably 
 not till the weekend.
 
 In the mean time, you might have some luck by exporting to LyXHTML and
 importing into LibO, or by exporting to HTML after installing eLyXer
 (link provided previously, or simply search on Google) and
 reconfiguring LyX.

Thanks, Liviu. I downloaded LibO yesterday. I tried opening the xhtml file and 
got nothing. I didn't find an appropriate encoding that could be specified 
before opening the file. I'll check out the eLyXer option.

While I'm at it, what is the view rich text format in the view other 
formats button for? Does it become available when latex2rtf is installed?

Last, I believe you mentioned to me that someone was working on package to add 
project management to lyx's capabilities. As I recall in response to my 
mentioning Scrivener. Is that still in the works?

--
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net
Decatur, GA  USA

Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. 
Boldness has genius, power and magic in it.  

- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 02.08.2012 um 19:59 schrieb Eric Weir:

 
 On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Ray Rashif wrote:
 
 On 2 August 2012 21:25, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how to 
 install latex2rtf?
 
 I took a look at the project's SF page and it seems to me that they're
 not providing binaries for Mac. If this is so, you may either compile
 the converter from source (likely a big headache in itself), or use
 Windows or Linux to proceed: On both latex2rtf can be easily
 installed.
 
 If the softpedia binary doesn't cut it, set up Homebrew [1] and
 install the latex2rtf package/formula. You will probably also need to
 download XCode.
 
 Otherwise you can download XCode alone and just build latex2rtf
 manually. The make file should require no changes. Just go into the
 unzipped folder of the unix source archive and type 'make  sudo make
 install' from terminal. Homebrew (and similarly MacPorts and Fink)
 just automates all this stuff for you on a systemwide scale.
 
 Thanks, Ray---and Liviu, too. Sorry, if I was given the link to latex2rtf I 
 didn't realize It. Probably because I was assuming it was a script somewhere 
 in the lyx package, or maybe in my tex/latex install, and that I just needed 
 either to get it recognize by lyx or learn how to run it from the terminal. 
 
 I've downloaded the source, and have located a discussion with pretty clear 
 instructions of how to compile it. I'll be giving it a shot, but probably not 
 till the weekend.

You may consider to use macports. There is latex2rtf available:

 terminal of Mac OS X ===
macbook-pro$ port search latex2rtf
latex2rtf @2.1.0 (tex)
Translator program intended to translate a LaTeX document into RTF
macbook-pro$ latex2rtf -v
latex2rtf 2.1.0 (released Mar  5 2010)

Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

Written by Prahl, Lehner, Granzer, Dorner, Polzer, Trisko, Schlatterbeck.
macbook-pro$ 
 terminal of Mac OS X ===

Regards,
Stephan

Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Thanks, Liviu. I downloaded LibO yesterday. I tried opening the xhtml file 
 and got nothing.

That's Richard's field of expertise.


 While I'm at it, what is the view rich text format in the view other 
 formats button for? Does it become available when latex2rtf is installed?

I think so. For a more reliable indicator of what works, check the
View  View (Other) menu item. But as far as RTF is concerned, the
better option is File  Export.


 Last, I believe you mentioned to me that someone was working on package to 
 add project management to lyx's capabilities. As I recall in response to my 
 mentioning Scrivener. Is that still in the works?

That's a question for Rob (cc'ed).

Liviu


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
make checkmake install

el

On 2012-08-02 10:41 , Eric Weir wrote:
 Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how
to install latex2rtf?

 On Aug 2, 2012, at 1:51 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

 Reconfigure.
 Reconfigure.
 Reconfigure.

 el



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Jerry

On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:10 AM, Eric Weir wrote:

 
 I've been away from LyX for a while, writing in Vim. I now have a document 
 that I need to cut down to 3,500 words from just under 5,000, put references 
 in, and get into APA format in Word. Normally, I would dump the draft in 
 Scrivener, do this work, then compile for Word. I really want to get 
 completely over into working within Vim/LyX/LaTeX. I'm considering dumping 
 the draft in LyX and working from within it. My deadline---probably not a 
 hard one---is tomorrow.
 
 Having been away from LyX for a while, I'm a little rusty. I don't know if 
 this is even possible. When I click on View other formats, the RTF format 
 is greyed out. If in fact I can compile for or export to RTF, I'd like to 
 give it a try.

I started a new thread that might be of interest to this one (and how many 
before?):

The thread is Anyone convert LyX to ODT or docx using pandoc?

Jerry

Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 1:25 AM, Ray Rashif wrote:

 On 2 August 2012 03:23, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 My document is simple. Headings and footnotes. About ten pages. I'd like to 
 see if the LaTeX to RTF convertor will handle it.
 
 For this case latex2rtf is the perfect tool. When you have no images,
 you're in luck. latex2rtf does the job - I've been using it for
 several weeks already.

Thanks, Ray. Good to hear. I don't see any of my documents every getting more 
complicated than this. Longer, maybe, but never more complicated. 

Maybe you could give me a little help with latext2rtf? Like, where do I get it? 
[Is it in the lyx pacage?] How do I install it? [Is it installed to lyx or 
independently of it?] How do I invoke it? [From within lyx or the terminal or 
some other way?]

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA
eew...@bellsouth.net

I have a mind-set that says bipartisanship ought to consist of 
the Democrats coming to the Republican point of view.

- Richard Mourdock



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Eric Weir

Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how to 
install latex2rtf?

On Aug 2, 2012, at 1:51 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

 Reconfigure.
 Reconfigure.
 Reconfigure.
 
 el
 
 On 2012-07-31 20:22 , Eric Weir wrote:
 
 On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 
 Importing/Exporting RTF/Word documents is usually a pain with
 LyX/LaTeX.
 
 Why is the RTF option under View other formats greyed out?
 
 --
 Eric Weir
 Decatur, GA
 eew...@bellsouth.net
 
 What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, 
 men would die from a great loneliness of spirit. 
 
 - Chief Seattle
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA  USA
eew...@bellsouth.net

Hatred destroys. Love heals.

- Eknath Easwaran



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:04 AM, Jerry wrote:

 I started a new thread that might be of interest to this one (and how many 
 before?):
 
 The thread is Anyone convert LyX to ODT or docx using pandoc?

Good. Pandoc intrigues me, too. 

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA
eew...@bellsouth.net

I have a mind-set that says bipartisanship ought to consist of 
the Democrats coming to the Republican point of view.

- Richard Mourdock



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Ray Rashif
On 2 August 2012 17:39, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 On Aug 2, 2012, at 1:25 AM, Ray Rashif wrote:

 On 2 August 2012 03:23, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 My document is simple. Headings and footnotes. About ten pages. I'd like to 
 see if the LaTeX to RTF convertor will handle it.

 For this case latex2rtf is the perfect tool. When you have no images,
 you're in luck. latex2rtf does the job - I've been using it for
 several weeks already.

 Thanks, Ray. Good to hear. I don't see any of my documents every getting more 
 complicated than this. Longer, maybe, but never more complicated.

 Maybe you could give me a little help with latext2rtf? Like, where do I get 
 it? [Is it in the lyx pacage?] How do I install it? [Is it installed to lyx 
 or independently of it?] How do I invoke it? [From within lyx or the terminal 
 or some other way?]

Hi Eric you have been given the link to latex2rtf a few times. There
is no mac binary to be seen so probably that's the reason why you're
confused. You have to compile it on your mac, or find a binary [1].

[1] http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Developer-Tools/latex2rtf.shtml


--
GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how to 
 install latex2rtf?

I took a look at the project's SF page and it seems to me that they're
not providing binaries for Mac. If this is so, you may either compile
the converter from source (likely a big headache in itself), or use
Windows or Linux to proceed: On both latex2rtf can be easily
installed.

Liviu


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Ray Rashif
On 2 August 2012 21:25, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how to 
 install latex2rtf?

 I took a look at the project's SF page and it seems to me that they're
 not providing binaries for Mac. If this is so, you may either compile
 the converter from source (likely a big headache in itself), or use
 Windows or Linux to proceed: On both latex2rtf can be easily
 installed.

If the softpedia binary doesn't cut it, set up Homebrew [1] and
install the latex2rtf package/formula. You will probably also need to
download XCode.

Otherwise you can download XCode alone and just build latex2rtf
manually. The make file should require no changes. Just go into the
unzipped folder of the unix source archive and type 'make  sudo make
install' from terminal. Homebrew (and similarly MacPorts and Fink)
just automates all this stuff for you on a systemwide scale.

[1] http://mxcl.github.com/homebrew/

Caveat: I'm not a Mac user.


--
GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Ray Rashif wrote:

 On 2 August 2012 21:25, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how to 
 install latex2rtf?
 
 I took a look at the project's SF page and it seems to me that they're
 not providing binaries for Mac. If this is so, you may either compile
 the converter from source (likely a big headache in itself), or use
 Windows or Linux to proceed: On both latex2rtf can be easily
 installed.
 
 If the softpedia binary doesn't cut it, set up Homebrew [1] and
 install the latex2rtf package/formula. You will probably also need to
 download XCode.
 
 Otherwise you can download XCode alone and just build latex2rtf
 manually. The make file should require no changes. Just go into the
 unzipped folder of the unix source archive and type 'make  sudo make
 install' from terminal. Homebrew (and similarly MacPorts and Fink)
 just automates all this stuff for you on a systemwide scale.

Thanks, Ray---and Liviu, too. Sorry, if I was given the link to latex2rtf I 
didn't realize It. Probably because I was assuming it was a script somewhere in 
the lyx package, or maybe in my tex/latex install, and that I just needed 
either to get it recognize by lyx or learn how to run it from the terminal. 

I've downloaded the source, and have located a discussion with pretty clear 
instructions of how to compile it. I'll be giving it a shot, but probably not 
till the weekend.

Thanks again,
--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA
eew...@bellsouth.net

I have a mind-set that says bipartisanship ought to consist of 
the Democrats coming to the Republican point of view.

- Richard Mourdock



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 I've downloaded the source, and have located a discussion with pretty clear 
 instructions of how to compile it. I'll be giving it a shot, but probably not 
 till the weekend.

In the mean time, you might have some luck by exporting to LyXHTML and
importing into LibO, or by exporting to HTML after installing eLyXer
(link provided previously, or simply search on Google) and
reconfiguring LyX.

Liviu


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 I've downloaded the source, and have located a discussion with pretty clear 
 instructions of how to compile it. I'll be giving it a shot, but probably 
 not till the weekend.
 
 In the mean time, you might have some luck by exporting to LyXHTML and
 importing into LibO, or by exporting to HTML after installing eLyXer
 (link provided previously, or simply search on Google) and
 reconfiguring LyX.

Thanks, Liviu. I downloaded LibO yesterday. I tried opening the xhtml file and 
got nothing. I didn't find an appropriate encoding that could be specified 
before opening the file. I'll check out the eLyXer option.

While I'm at it, what is the view rich text format in the view other 
formats button for? Does it become available when latex2rtf is installed?

Last, I believe you mentioned to me that someone was working on package to add 
project management to lyx's capabilities. As I recall in response to my 
mentioning Scrivener. Is that still in the works?

--
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net
Decatur, GA  USA

Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. 
Boldness has genius, power and magic in it.  

- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 02.08.2012 um 19:59 schrieb Eric Weir:

 
 On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Ray Rashif wrote:
 
 On 2 August 2012 21:25, Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how to 
 install latex2rtf?
 
 I took a look at the project's SF page and it seems to me that they're
 not providing binaries for Mac. If this is so, you may either compile
 the converter from source (likely a big headache in itself), or use
 Windows or Linux to proceed: On both latex2rtf can be easily
 installed.
 
 If the softpedia binary doesn't cut it, set up Homebrew [1] and
 install the latex2rtf package/formula. You will probably also need to
 download XCode.
 
 Otherwise you can download XCode alone and just build latex2rtf
 manually. The make file should require no changes. Just go into the
 unzipped folder of the unix source archive and type 'make  sudo make
 install' from terminal. Homebrew (and similarly MacPorts and Fink)
 just automates all this stuff for you on a systemwide scale.
 
 Thanks, Ray---and Liviu, too. Sorry, if I was given the link to latex2rtf I 
 didn't realize It. Probably because I was assuming it was a script somewhere 
 in the lyx package, or maybe in my tex/latex install, and that I just needed 
 either to get it recognize by lyx or learn how to run it from the terminal. 
 
 I've downloaded the source, and have located a discussion with pretty clear 
 instructions of how to compile it. I'll be giving it a shot, but probably not 
 till the weekend.

You may consider to use macports. There is latex2rtf available:

 terminal of Mac OS X ===
macbook-pro$ port search latex2rtf
latex2rtf @2.1.0 (tex)
Translator program intended to translate a LaTeX document into RTF
macbook-pro$ latex2rtf -v
latex2rtf 2.1.0 (released Mar  5 2010)

Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

Written by Prahl, Lehner, Granzer, Dorner, Polzer, Trisko, Schlatterbeck.
macbook-pro$ 
 terminal of Mac OS X ===

Regards,
Stephan

Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 Thanks, Liviu. I downloaded LibO yesterday. I tried opening the xhtml file 
 and got nothing.

That's Richard's field of expertise.


 While I'm at it, what is the view rich text format in the view other 
 formats button for? Does it become available when latex2rtf is installed?

I think so. For a more reliable indicator of what works, check the
View  View (Other) menu item. But as far as RTF is concerned, the
better option is File  Export.


 Last, I believe you mentioned to me that someone was working on package to 
 add project management to lyx's capabilities. As I recall in response to my 
 mentioning Scrivener. Is that still in the works?

That's a question for Rob (cc'ed).

Liviu


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
make checkmake install

el

On 2012-08-02 10:41 , Eric Weir wrote:
 Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how
to install latex2rtf?

 On Aug 2, 2012, at 1:51 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

 Reconfigure.
 Reconfigure.
 Reconfigure.

 el



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Jerry

On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:10 AM, Eric Weir wrote:

> 
> I've been away from LyX for a while, writing in Vim. I now have a document 
> that I need to cut down to 3,500 words from just under 5,000, put references 
> in, and get into APA format in Word. Normally, I would dump the draft in 
> Scrivener, do this work, then compile for Word. I really want to get 
> completely over into working within Vim/LyX/LaTeX. I'm considering dumping 
> the draft in LyX and working from within it. My deadline---probably not a 
> hard one---is tomorrow.
> 
> Having been away from LyX for a while, I'm a little rusty. I don't know if 
> this is even possible. When I click on "View other formats," the RTF format 
> is greyed out. If in fact I can compile for or export to RTF, I'd like to 
> give it a try.

I started a new thread that might be of interest to this one (and how many 
before?):

The thread is "Anyone convert LyX to ODT or docx using pandoc?"

Jerry

Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 1:25 AM, Ray Rashif wrote:

> On 2 August 2012 03:23, Eric Weir  wrote:
>> My document is simple. Headings and footnotes. About ten pages. I'd like to 
>> see if the LaTeX to RTF convertor will handle it.
> 
> For this case latex2rtf is the perfect tool. When you have no images,
> you're in luck. latex2rtf does the job - I've been using it for
> several weeks already.

Thanks, Ray. Good to hear. I don't see any of my documents every getting more 
complicated than this. Longer, maybe, but never more complicated. 

Maybe you could give me a little help with latext2rtf? Like, where do I get it? 
[Is it in the lyx pacage?] How do I install it? [Is it installed to lyx or 
independently of it?] How do I invoke it? [From within lyx or the terminal or 
some other way?]

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA
eew...@bellsouth.net

"I have a mind-set that says bipartisanship ought to consist of 
the Democrats coming to the Republican point of view."

- Richard Mourdock



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Eric Weir

Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how to 
install latex2rtf?

On Aug 2, 2012, at 1:51 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

> Reconfigure.
> Reconfigure.
> Reconfigure.
> 
> el
> 
> On 2012-07-31 20:22 , Eric Weir wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
>> 
>>> Importing/Exporting RTF/Word documents is usually a pain with
>>> LyX/LaTeX.
>> 
>> Why is the RTF option under "View other formats" greyed out?
>> 
>> --
>> Eric Weir
>> Decatur, GA
>> eew...@bellsouth.net
>> 
>> "What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, 
>> men would die from a great loneliness of spirit." 
>> 
>> - Chief Seattle
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA  USA
eew...@bellsouth.net

"Hatred destroys. Love heals."

- Eknath Easwaran



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:04 AM, Jerry wrote:

> I started a new thread that might be of interest to this one (and how many 
> before?):
> 
> The thread is "Anyone convert LyX to ODT or docx using pandoc?"

Good. Pandoc intrigues me, too. 

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA
eew...@bellsouth.net

"I have a mind-set that says bipartisanship ought to consist of 
the Democrats coming to the Republican point of view."

- Richard Mourdock



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Ray Rashif
On 2 August 2012 17:39, Eric Weir  wrote:
>
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 1:25 AM, Ray Rashif wrote:
>
>> On 2 August 2012 03:23, Eric Weir  wrote:
>>> My document is simple. Headings and footnotes. About ten pages. I'd like to 
>>> see if the LaTeX to RTF convertor will handle it.
>>
>> For this case latex2rtf is the perfect tool. When you have no images,
>> you're in luck. latex2rtf does the job - I've been using it for
>> several weeks already.
>
> Thanks, Ray. Good to hear. I don't see any of my documents every getting more 
> complicated than this. Longer, maybe, but never more complicated.
>
> Maybe you could give me a little help with latext2rtf? Like, where do I get 
> it? [Is it in the lyx pacage?] How do I install it? [Is it installed to lyx 
> or independently of it?] How do I invoke it? [From within lyx or the terminal 
> or some other way?]

Hi Eric you have been given the link to latex2rtf a few times. There
is no mac binary to be seen so probably that's the reason why you're
confused. You have to compile it on your mac, or find a binary [1].

[1] http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Developer-Tools/latex2rtf.shtml


--
GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how to 
> install latex2rtf?
>
I took a look at the project's SF page and it seems to me that they're
not providing binaries for Mac. If this is so, you may either compile
the converter from source (likely a big headache in itself), or use
Windows or Linux to proceed: On both latex2rtf can be easily
installed.

Liviu


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Ray Rashif
On 2 August 2012 21:25, Liviu Andronic  wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how to 
>> install latex2rtf?
>>
> I took a look at the project's SF page and it seems to me that they're
> not providing binaries for Mac. If this is so, you may either compile
> the converter from source (likely a big headache in itself), or use
> Windows or Linux to proceed: On both latex2rtf can be easily
> installed.

If the softpedia binary doesn't cut it, set up Homebrew [1] and
install the latex2rtf package/formula. You will probably also need to
download XCode.

Otherwise you can download XCode alone and just build latex2rtf
manually. The make file should require no changes. Just go into the
unzipped folder of the unix source archive and type 'make && sudo make
install' from terminal. Homebrew (and similarly MacPorts and Fink)
just automates all this stuff for you on a systemwide scale.

[1] http://mxcl.github.com/homebrew/

Caveat: I'm not a Mac user.


--
GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Ray Rashif wrote:

> On 2 August 2012 21:25, Liviu Andronic  wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how to 
>>> install latex2rtf?
>>> 
>> I took a look at the project's SF page and it seems to me that they're
>> not providing binaries for Mac. If this is so, you may either compile
>> the converter from source (likely a big headache in itself), or use
>> Windows or Linux to proceed: On both latex2rtf can be easily
>> installed.
> 
> If the softpedia binary doesn't cut it, set up Homebrew [1] and
> install the latex2rtf package/formula. You will probably also need to
> download XCode.
> 
> Otherwise you can download XCode alone and just build latex2rtf
> manually. The make file should require no changes. Just go into the
> unzipped folder of the unix source archive and type 'make && sudo make
> install' from terminal. Homebrew (and similarly MacPorts and Fink)
> just automates all this stuff for you on a systemwide scale.

Thanks, Ray---and Liviu, too. Sorry, if I was given the link to latex2rtf I 
didn't realize It. Probably because I was assuming it was a script somewhere in 
the lyx package, or maybe in my tex/latex install, and that I just needed 
either to get it recognize by lyx or learn how to run it from the terminal. 

I've downloaded the source, and have located a discussion with pretty clear 
instructions of how to compile it. I'll be giving it a shot, but probably not 
till the weekend.

Thanks again,
--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA
eew...@bellsouth.net

"I have a mind-set that says bipartisanship ought to consist of 
the Democrats coming to the Republican point of view."

- Richard Mourdock



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> I've downloaded the source, and have located a discussion with pretty clear 
> instructions of how to compile it. I'll be giving it a shot, but probably not 
> till the weekend.
>
In the mean time, you might have some luck by exporting to LyXHTML and
importing into LibO, or by exporting to HTML after installing eLyXer
(link provided previously, or simply search on Google) and
reconfiguring LyX.

Liviu


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 2, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>> I've downloaded the source, and have located a discussion with pretty clear 
>> instructions of how to compile it. I'll be giving it a shot, but probably 
>> not till the weekend.
>> 
> In the mean time, you might have some luck by exporting to LyXHTML and
> importing into LibO, or by exporting to HTML after installing eLyXer
> (link provided previously, or simply search on Google) and
> reconfiguring LyX.

Thanks, Liviu. I downloaded LibO yesterday. I tried opening the xhtml file and 
got nothing. I didn't find an appropriate encoding that could be specified 
before opening the file. I'll check out the eLyXer option.

While I'm at it, what is the "view rich text format" in the "view other 
formats" button for? Does it become available when latex2rtf is installed?

Last, I believe you mentioned to me that someone was working on package to add 
project management to lyx's capabilities. As I recall in response to my 
mentioning Scrivener. Is that still in the works?

--
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net
Decatur, GA  USA

"Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. 
Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. " 

- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 02.08.2012 um 19:59 schrieb Eric Weir:

> 
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:03 AM, Ray Rashif wrote:
> 
>> On 2 August 2012 21:25, Liviu Andronic  wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
 
 Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how to 
 install latex2rtf?
 
>>> I took a look at the project's SF page and it seems to me that they're
>>> not providing binaries for Mac. If this is so, you may either compile
>>> the converter from source (likely a big headache in itself), or use
>>> Windows or Linux to proceed: On both latex2rtf can be easily
>>> installed.
>> 
>> If the softpedia binary doesn't cut it, set up Homebrew [1] and
>> install the latex2rtf package/formula. You will probably also need to
>> download XCode.
>> 
>> Otherwise you can download XCode alone and just build latex2rtf
>> manually. The make file should require no changes. Just go into the
>> unzipped folder of the unix source archive and type 'make && sudo make
>> install' from terminal. Homebrew (and similarly MacPorts and Fink)
>> just automates all this stuff for you on a systemwide scale.
> 
> Thanks, Ray---and Liviu, too. Sorry, if I was given the link to latex2rtf I 
> didn't realize It. Probably because I was assuming it was a script somewhere 
> in the lyx package, or maybe in my tex/latex install, and that I just needed 
> either to get it recognize by lyx or learn how to run it from the terminal. 
> 
> I've downloaded the source, and have located a discussion with pretty clear 
> instructions of how to compile it. I'll be giving it a shot, but probably not 
> till the weekend.

You may consider to use macports. There is latex2rtf available:

 terminal of Mac OS X ===
macbook-pro$ port search latex2rtf
latex2rtf @2.1.0 (tex)
Translator program intended to translate a LaTeX document into RTF
macbook-pro$ latex2rtf -v
latex2rtf 2.1.0 (released Mar  5 2010)

Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

Written by Prahl, Lehner, Granzer, Dorner, Polzer, Trisko, Schlatterbeck.
macbook-pro$ 
 terminal of Mac OS X ===

Regards,
Stephan

Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> Thanks, Liviu. I downloaded LibO yesterday. I tried opening the xhtml file 
> and got nothing.
>
That's Richard's field of expertise.


> While I'm at it, what is the "view rich text format" in the "view other 
> formats" button for? Does it become available when latex2rtf is installed?
>
I think so. For a more reliable indicator of what works, check the
View > View (Other) menu item. But as far as RTF is concerned, the
better option is File > Export.


> Last, I believe you mentioned to me that someone was working on package to 
> add project management to lyx's capabilities. As I recall in response to my 
> mentioning Scrivener. Is that still in the works?
>
That's a question for Rob (cc'ed).

Liviu


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-02 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
make check& install

el

On 2012-08-02 10:41 , Eric Weir wrote:>
> Thanks for the reminder, Eberhard. But first I have to figure out how
to install latex2rtf?
>
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 1:51 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>
>> Reconfigure.
>> Reconfigure.
>> Reconfigure.
>>
>> el



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 LyX comes with support for a lot of external tools, provided that
 these are installed and that LyX is 'reconfigured' (Tools 
 Reconfigure). A good place to check which additional packages are
 supported is the Debian/Ubuntu .deb packages (the 'suggested' list).
 Another way is to check the 'configure.py' script coming with LyX.

Thanks, Liviu. I'm on a Mac. I found 'configure.py' in 
/applications/lyx.app/resources. It is a very complicated script. I can discern 
references to specific tools in all the code. 

How is this script used? Will it help me find the tools you mentioned, eLyXer 
for HTML export (to be
imported into Word) and the LibO-powered export to ODT. [Is the latter a 
separate tool or a second possibility with eLyXer?]

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA
eew...@bellsouth.net

What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, 
men would die from a great loneliness of spirit. 

- Chief Seattle








Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 LyX comes with support for a lot of external tools, provided that
 these are installed and that LyX is 'reconfigured' (Tools 
 Reconfigure). A good place to check which additional packages are
 supported is the Debian/Ubuntu .deb packages (the 'suggested' list).
 Another way is to check the 'configure.py' script coming with LyX.

 Thanks, Liviu. I'm on a Mac. I found 'configure.py' in 
 /applications/lyx.app/resources. It is a very complicated script. I can 
 discern references to specific tools in all the code.

The script gives useful information to the trained eye.


 How is this script used?

It is run whenever Tools  Reconfigure is triggered. Otherwise, it can
give you an indication on what external tools LyX supports by default;
you would subsequently need to install them manually.


 Will it help me find the tools you mentioned, eLyXer for HTML export (to be
 imported into Word) and the LibO-powered export to ODT. [Is the latter a 
 separate tool or a second possibility with eLyXer?]

You need to install eLyXer and then reconfigure LyX. Then Export to
HTML will likely use eLyXer. If you install writer2latex and
reconfigure, then you should be able to import ODT documents in LyX.
(Always, to the extent that these tools can process your documents.)
For yet another approach try to import Word-like files try word2lyx
[1], which supports importing .docx documents into LyX.

Unfortunately there is no single, perfect solution. When working with
LyX best is if you can submit your file as LaTeX, (X)HTML or PDF. If
you need to maintain compatibility with MS Word, however, then you
should experiment with all the quirky tools that attempt to deal with
Word - LaTeX conversions and find the method that works best for
you.

Good luck
Liviu

[1] http://www.oak-tree.us/2012/03/07/word2lyx01-2/


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

 If you want to export to RTF, then you need to install latex2rtf or some 
 similar program. But I've had better luck lately exporting to the LyXHTML 
 format, and then loading that in LibreOffice.

I tried opening the XHTML in OpenOffice. It reads it as a raw text document, 
i.e., with the HTML code displayed instead of formatted. Would LibreOffice 
handle it differently? 

--
Eric Weir
Program and Resource Development ~ Evaluation ~ Writing
Education ~ The Environment ~ Community Development
 Clairemont Avenue J3 ~ Decatur, GA 30030
404-636-6142 ~ eew...@bellsouth.net






Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 I tried opening the XHTML in OpenOffice. It reads it as a raw text document, 
 i.e., with the HTML code displayed instead of formatted. Would LibreOffice 
 handle it differently?

I have no experience with either in this context, but OOo is already
old, and obsoleted by LibO. I guess it is worth giving LibO a shot.

Liviu


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 1, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 I have no experience with either in this context, but OOo is already
 old, and obsoleted by LibO. I guess it is worth giving LibO a shot.

Thanks, Liviu. I'm in scattershot mode right now. Trying things almost 
mindlessly. I guess I don't know how to install converters. I've tried to 
install the LaTeX to RTF converter from /preferences/file handling. I select 
the converter, apply it, reconfigure, restart LyX. When I restart LaTeX to RTF 
doesn't show up in /File/Export, and when I go back to /preferences/file 
handling another converter is selected. 

My document is simple. Headings and footnotes. About ten pages. I'd like to see 
if the LaTeX to RTF convertor will handle it. 

How do I install a converter?

--
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net

Human coexistence and social life constitute the good common to us all 
from which and thanks to which all cultural and social goods derive. 

- Zygmunt Bauman



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 On Aug 1, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 I have no experience with either in this context, but OOo is already
 old, and obsoleted by LibO. I guess it is worth giving LibO a shot.

 Thanks, Liviu. I'm in scattershot mode right now. Trying things almost 
 mindlessly. I guess I don't know how to install converters. I've tried to 
 install the LaTeX to RTF converter from /preferences/file handling. I select 
 the converter, apply it, reconfigure, restart LyX. When I restart LaTeX to 
 RTF doesn't show up in /File/Export, and when I go back to /preferences/file 
 handling another converter is selected.

 My document is simple. Headings and footnotes. About ten pages. I'd like to 
 see if the LaTeX to RTF convertor will handle it.

 How do I install a converter?

To install a converter you need to install the external program (e.g.,
as you would install LyX or LibO). For elyxer [1] follow its
installation instructions, for latex2rtf [2]. Then reconfigure LyX.
(If you made modifications to your prefs---converters and file
handling---, you may want to start over with a fresh prefs file, just
to make sure that you didn't break anything.)

Liviu

[1] http://elyxer.nongnu.org/
[2] http://latex2rtf.sourceforge.net/


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Ray Rashif
On 2 August 2012 03:23, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 My document is simple. Headings and footnotes. About ten pages. I'd like to 
 see if the LaTeX to RTF convertor will handle it.

For this case latex2rtf is the perfect tool. When you have no images,
you're in luck. latex2rtf does the job - I've been using it for
several weeks already.


--
GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Reconfigure.
Reconfigure.
Reconfigure.

el

On 2012-07-31 20:22 , Eric Weir wrote:
 
 On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 
 Importing/Exporting RTF/Word documents is usually a pain with
 LyX/LaTeX.
 
 Why is the RTF option under View other formats greyed out?
 
 --
 Eric Weir
 Decatur, GA
 eew...@bellsouth.net
 
 What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, 
 men would die from a great loneliness of spirit. 
 
 - Chief Seattle
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 LyX comes with support for a lot of external tools, provided that
 these are installed and that LyX is 'reconfigured' (Tools 
 Reconfigure). A good place to check which additional packages are
 supported is the Debian/Ubuntu .deb packages (the 'suggested' list).
 Another way is to check the 'configure.py' script coming with LyX.

Thanks, Liviu. I'm on a Mac. I found 'configure.py' in 
/applications/lyx.app/resources. It is a very complicated script. I can discern 
references to specific tools in all the code. 

How is this script used? Will it help me find the tools you mentioned, eLyXer 
for HTML export (to be
imported into Word) and the LibO-powered export to ODT. [Is the latter a 
separate tool or a second possibility with eLyXer?]

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA
eew...@bellsouth.net

What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, 
men would die from a great loneliness of spirit. 

- Chief Seattle








Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 LyX comes with support for a lot of external tools, provided that
 these are installed and that LyX is 'reconfigured' (Tools 
 Reconfigure). A good place to check which additional packages are
 supported is the Debian/Ubuntu .deb packages (the 'suggested' list).
 Another way is to check the 'configure.py' script coming with LyX.

 Thanks, Liviu. I'm on a Mac. I found 'configure.py' in 
 /applications/lyx.app/resources. It is a very complicated script. I can 
 discern references to specific tools in all the code.

The script gives useful information to the trained eye.


 How is this script used?

It is run whenever Tools  Reconfigure is triggered. Otherwise, it can
give you an indication on what external tools LyX supports by default;
you would subsequently need to install them manually.


 Will it help me find the tools you mentioned, eLyXer for HTML export (to be
 imported into Word) and the LibO-powered export to ODT. [Is the latter a 
 separate tool or a second possibility with eLyXer?]

You need to install eLyXer and then reconfigure LyX. Then Export to
HTML will likely use eLyXer. If you install writer2latex and
reconfigure, then you should be able to import ODT documents in LyX.
(Always, to the extent that these tools can process your documents.)
For yet another approach try to import Word-like files try word2lyx
[1], which supports importing .docx documents into LyX.

Unfortunately there is no single, perfect solution. When working with
LyX best is if you can submit your file as LaTeX, (X)HTML or PDF. If
you need to maintain compatibility with MS Word, however, then you
should experiment with all the quirky tools that attempt to deal with
Word - LaTeX conversions and find the method that works best for
you.

Good luck
Liviu

[1] http://www.oak-tree.us/2012/03/07/word2lyx01-2/


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

 If you want to export to RTF, then you need to install latex2rtf or some 
 similar program. But I've had better luck lately exporting to the LyXHTML 
 format, and then loading that in LibreOffice.

I tried opening the XHTML in OpenOffice. It reads it as a raw text document, 
i.e., with the HTML code displayed instead of formatted. Would LibreOffice 
handle it differently? 

--
Eric Weir
Program and Resource Development ~ Evaluation ~ Writing
Education ~ The Environment ~ Community Development
 Clairemont Avenue J3 ~ Decatur, GA 30030
404-636-6142 ~ eew...@bellsouth.net






Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 I tried opening the XHTML in OpenOffice. It reads it as a raw text document, 
 i.e., with the HTML code displayed instead of formatted. Would LibreOffice 
 handle it differently?

I have no experience with either in this context, but OOo is already
old, and obsoleted by LibO. I guess it is worth giving LibO a shot.

Liviu


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 1, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 I have no experience with either in this context, but OOo is already
 old, and obsoleted by LibO. I guess it is worth giving LibO a shot.

Thanks, Liviu. I'm in scattershot mode right now. Trying things almost 
mindlessly. I guess I don't know how to install converters. I've tried to 
install the LaTeX to RTF converter from /preferences/file handling. I select 
the converter, apply it, reconfigure, restart LyX. When I restart LaTeX to RTF 
doesn't show up in /File/Export, and when I go back to /preferences/file 
handling another converter is selected. 

My document is simple. Headings and footnotes. About ten pages. I'd like to see 
if the LaTeX to RTF convertor will handle it. 

How do I install a converter?

--
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net

Human coexistence and social life constitute the good common to us all 
from which and thanks to which all cultural and social goods derive. 

- Zygmunt Bauman



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 On Aug 1, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 I have no experience with either in this context, but OOo is already
 old, and obsoleted by LibO. I guess it is worth giving LibO a shot.

 Thanks, Liviu. I'm in scattershot mode right now. Trying things almost 
 mindlessly. I guess I don't know how to install converters. I've tried to 
 install the LaTeX to RTF converter from /preferences/file handling. I select 
 the converter, apply it, reconfigure, restart LyX. When I restart LaTeX to 
 RTF doesn't show up in /File/Export, and when I go back to /preferences/file 
 handling another converter is selected.

 My document is simple. Headings and footnotes. About ten pages. I'd like to 
 see if the LaTeX to RTF convertor will handle it.

 How do I install a converter?

To install a converter you need to install the external program (e.g.,
as you would install LyX or LibO). For elyxer [1] follow its
installation instructions, for latex2rtf [2]. Then reconfigure LyX.
(If you made modifications to your prefs---converters and file
handling---, you may want to start over with a fresh prefs file, just
to make sure that you didn't break anything.)

Liviu

[1] http://elyxer.nongnu.org/
[2] http://latex2rtf.sourceforge.net/


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Ray Rashif
On 2 August 2012 03:23, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 My document is simple. Headings and footnotes. About ten pages. I'd like to 
 see if the LaTeX to RTF convertor will handle it.

For this case latex2rtf is the perfect tool. When you have no images,
you're in luck. latex2rtf does the job - I've been using it for
several weeks already.


--
GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Reconfigure.
Reconfigure.
Reconfigure.

el

On 2012-07-31 20:22 , Eric Weir wrote:
 
 On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
 
 Importing/Exporting RTF/Word documents is usually a pain with
 LyX/LaTeX.
 
 Why is the RTF option under View other formats greyed out?
 
 --
 Eric Weir
 Decatur, GA
 eew...@bellsouth.net
 
 What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, 
 men would die from a great loneliness of spirit. 
 
 - Chief Seattle
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

> LyX comes with support for a lot of external tools, provided that
> these are installed and that LyX is 'reconfigured' (Tools >
> Reconfigure). A good place to check which additional packages are
> supported is the Debian/Ubuntu .deb packages (the 'suggested' list).
> Another way is to check the 'configure.py' script coming with LyX.

Thanks, Liviu. I'm on a Mac. I found 'configure.py' in 
/applications/lyx.app/resources. It is a very complicated script. I can discern 
references to specific tools in all the code. 

How is this script used? Will it help me find the tools you mentioned, "eLyXer 
for HTML export (to be
imported into Word) and the LibO-powered export to ODT." [Is the latter a 
separate tool or a second possibility with eLyXer?]

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA
eew...@bellsouth.net

"What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, 
men would die from a great loneliness of spirit." 

- Chief Seattle








Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>
> On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
>
>> LyX comes with support for a lot of external tools, provided that
>> these are installed and that LyX is 'reconfigured' (Tools >
>> Reconfigure). A good place to check which additional packages are
>> supported is the Debian/Ubuntu .deb packages (the 'suggested' list).
>> Another way is to check the 'configure.py' script coming with LyX.
>
> Thanks, Liviu. I'm on a Mac. I found 'configure.py' in 
> /applications/lyx.app/resources. It is a very complicated script. I can 
> discern references to specific tools in all the code.
>
The script gives useful information to the trained eye.


> How is this script used?
>
It is run whenever Tools > Reconfigure is triggered. Otherwise, it can
give you an indication on what external tools LyX supports by default;
you would subsequently need to install them manually.


> Will it help me find the tools you mentioned, "eLyXer for HTML export (to be
> imported into Word) and the LibO-powered export to ODT." [Is the latter a 
> separate tool or a second possibility with eLyXer?]
>
You need to install eLyXer and then reconfigure LyX. Then Export to
HTML will likely use eLyXer. If you install writer2latex and
reconfigure, then you should be able to import ODT documents in LyX.
(Always, to the extent that these tools can process your documents.)
For yet another approach try to import Word-like files try word2lyx
[1], which supports importing .docx documents into LyX.

Unfortunately there is no single, perfect solution. When working with
LyX best is if you can submit your file as LaTeX, (X)HTML or PDF. If
you need to maintain compatibility with MS Word, however, then you
should experiment with all the quirky tools that attempt to deal with
Word <-> LaTeX conversions and find the method that works best for
you.

Good luck
Liviu

[1] http://www.oak-tree.us/2012/03/07/word2lyx01-2/


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

> If you want to export to RTF, then you need to install latex2rtf or some 
> similar program. But I've had better luck lately exporting to the LyXHTML 
> format, and then loading that in LibreOffice.

I tried opening the XHTML in OpenOffice. It reads it as a raw text document, 
i.e., with the HTML code displayed instead of formatted. Would LibreOffice 
handle it differently? 

--
Eric Weir
Program and Resource Development ~ Evaluation ~ Writing
Education ~ The Environment ~ Community Development
 Clairemont Avenue J3 ~ Decatur, GA 30030
404-636-6142 ~ eew...@bellsouth.net






Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> I tried opening the XHTML in OpenOffice. It reads it as a raw text document, 
> i.e., with the HTML code displayed instead of formatted. Would LibreOffice 
> handle it differently?
>
I have no experience with either in this context, but OOo is already
old, and obsoleted by LibO. I guess it is worth giving LibO a shot.

Liviu


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Eric Weir

On Aug 1, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

> I have no experience with either in this context, but OOo is already
> old, and obsoleted by LibO. I guess it is worth giving LibO a shot.

Thanks, Liviu. I'm in scattershot mode right now. Trying things almost 
mindlessly. I guess I don't know how to install converters. I've tried to 
install the LaTeX to RTF converter from /preferences/file handling. I select 
the converter, apply it, reconfigure, restart LyX. When I restart LaTeX to RTF 
doesn't show up in /File/Export, and when I go back to /preferences/file 
handling another converter is selected. 

My document is simple. Headings and footnotes. About ten pages. I'd like to see 
if the LaTeX to RTF convertor will handle it. 

How do I install a converter?

--
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net

"Human coexistence and social life constitute the good common to us all 
from which and thanks to which all cultural and social goods derive." 

- Zygmunt Bauman



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>
> On Aug 1, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
>
>> I have no experience with either in this context, but OOo is already
>> old, and obsoleted by LibO. I guess it is worth giving LibO a shot.
>
> Thanks, Liviu. I'm in scattershot mode right now. Trying things almost 
> mindlessly. I guess I don't know how to install converters. I've tried to 
> install the LaTeX to RTF converter from /preferences/file handling. I select 
> the converter, apply it, reconfigure, restart LyX. When I restart LaTeX to 
> RTF doesn't show up in /File/Export, and when I go back to /preferences/file 
> handling another converter is selected.
>
> My document is simple. Headings and footnotes. About ten pages. I'd like to 
> see if the LaTeX to RTF convertor will handle it.
>
> How do I install a converter?
>
To install a converter you need to install the external program (e.g.,
as you would install LyX or LibO). For elyxer [1] follow its
installation instructions, for latex2rtf [2]. Then reconfigure LyX.
(If you made modifications to your prefs---converters and file
handling---, you may want to start over with a fresh prefs file, just
to make sure that you didn't break anything.)

Liviu

[1] http://elyxer.nongnu.org/
[2] http://latex2rtf.sourceforge.net/


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Ray Rashif
On 2 August 2012 03:23, Eric Weir  wrote:
> My document is simple. Headings and footnotes. About ten pages. I'd like to 
> see if the LaTeX to RTF convertor will handle it.

For this case latex2rtf is the perfect tool. When you have no images,
you're in luck. latex2rtf does the job - I've been using it for
several weeks already.


--
GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-08-01 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Reconfigure.
Reconfigure.
Reconfigure.

el

On 2012-07-31 20:22 , Eric Weir wrote:
> 
> On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> 
>> Importing/Exporting RTF/Word documents is usually a pain with
>> LyX/LaTeX.
> 
> Why is the RTF option under "View other formats" greyed out?
> 
> --
> Eric Weir
> Decatur, GA
> eew...@bellsouth.net
> 
> "What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, 
> men would die from a great loneliness of spirit." 
> 
> - Chief Seattle
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-07-31 Thread Eric Weir

I've been away from LyX for a while, writing in Vim. I now have a document that 
I need to cut down to 3,500 words from just under 5,000, put references in, and 
get into APA format in Word. Normally, I would dump the draft in Scrivener, do 
this work, then compile for Word. I really want to get completely over into 
working within Vim/LyX/LaTeX. I'm considering dumping the draft in LyX and 
working from within it. My deadline---probably not a hard one---is tomorrow.

Having been away from LyX for a while, I'm a little rusty. I don't know if this 
is even possible. When I click on View other formats, the RTF format is 
greyed out. If in fact I can compile for or export to RTF, I'd like to give it 
a try.

Es posible?

Gracias,
--
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net

The invincible shield of caring
Is a weapon sent from the sky 
against being dead. 

- Tao Te Ching 67









Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-07-31 Thread Richard Heck

On 07/31/2012 07:10 AM, Eric Weir wrote:


I've been away from LyX for a while, writing in Vim. I now have a 
document that I need to cut down to 3,500 words from just under 5,000, 
put references in, and get into APA format in Word. Normally, I would 
dump the draft in Scrivener, do this work, then compile for Word. I 
really want to get completely over into working within Vim/LyX/LaTeX. 
I'm considering dumping the draft in LyX and working from within it. 
My deadline---probably not a hard one---is tomorrow.


Having been away from LyX for a while, I'm a little rusty. I don't 
know if this is even possible. When I click on View other formats, 
the RTF format is greyed out. If in fact I can compile for or export 
to RTF, I'd like to give it a try.


Es posible?

If you want to export to RTF, then you need to install latex2rtf or some 
similar program. But I've had better luck lately exporting to the 
LyXHTML format, and then loading that in LibreOffice.


Richard



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-07-31 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I've been away from LyX for a while, writing in Vim. I now have a document
 that I need to cut down to 3,500 words from just under 5,000, put references
 in, and get into APA format in Word. Normally, I would dump the draft in
 Scrivener, do this work, then compile for Word. I really want to get
 completely over into working within Vim/LyX/LaTeX. I'm considering dumping
 the draft in LyX and working from within it. My deadline---probably not a
 hard one---is tomorrow.

 Having been away from LyX for a while, I'm a little rusty. I don't know if
 this is even possible. When I click on View other formats, the RTF format
 is greyed out. If in fact I can compile for or export to RTF, I'd like to
 give it a try.

Importing/Exporting RTF/Word documents is usually a pain with
LyX/LaTeX. This has been discussed extensively in the past on the
list, and I think there is also something on the wiki. In addition to
Richard's suggestions, you could try eLyXer for HTML export (to be
imported into Word) and the LibO-powered export to ODT (although I'm
not seeing it in my menus right now).

Good luck
Liviu

PS Maybe Steve and Rob have something to add on Vim/LyX/Scrivener.


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-07-31 Thread Nico Williams
Using XHTMP export has the benefit that you can then use XSLT.  I've
used this successfully to export LyX format to an unrelated XML
schema.

Nico
--


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-07-31 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

 If you want to export to RTF, then you need to install latex2rtf or some 
 similar program. But I've had better luck lately exporting to the LyXHTML 
 format, and then loading that in LibreOffice.

I wouldn't have considered HTML, but if you can get a Word-compatible document 
that way I'm willing to try.

Occurs to me that I might ask this journal if they accept LaTeX. I've always 
sent Word-compatible in the past, and have just assumed that's what they want, 
or all that they'll accept. 

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA  USA
eew...@bellsouth.net

Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position, 
but certainty is an absurd one.
 
- Voltaire



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-07-31 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 Importing/Exporting RTF/Word documents is usually a pain with
 LyX/LaTeX. This has been discussed extensively in the past on the
 list, and I think there is also something on the wiki.

Darn, I thought I remembered otherwise. 

 In addition to
 Richard's suggestions, you could try eLyXer for HTML export (to be
 imported into Word) and the LibO-powered export to ODT (although I'm
 not seeing it in my menus right now).

Are you suggesting that they're in the LyX package?

--
Eric Weir
 Clairemont Avenue J3 ~ Decatur, GA 30030
404-636-6142 ~ eew...@bellsouth.net



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-07-31 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 Importing/Exporting RTF/Word documents is usually a pain with
 LyX/LaTeX.

Why is the RTF option under View other formats greyed out?

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA
eew...@bellsouth.net

What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, 
men would die from a great loneliness of spirit. 

- Chief Seattle








Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-07-31 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 In addition to
 Richard's suggestions, you could try eLyXer for HTML export (to be
 imported into Word) and the LibO-powered export to ODT (although I'm
 not seeing it in my menus right now).

 Are you suggesting that they're in the LyX package?

LyX comes with support for a lot of external tools, provided that
these are installed and that LyX is 'reconfigured' (Tools 
Reconfigure). A good place to check which additional packages are
supported is the Debian/Ubuntu .deb packages (the 'suggested' list).
Another way is to check the 'configure.py' script coming with LyX.

Liviu


Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-07-31 Thread Eric Weir

I've been away from LyX for a while, writing in Vim. I now have a document that 
I need to cut down to 3,500 words from just under 5,000, put references in, and 
get into APA format in Word. Normally, I would dump the draft in Scrivener, do 
this work, then compile for Word. I really want to get completely over into 
working within Vim/LyX/LaTeX. I'm considering dumping the draft in LyX and 
working from within it. My deadline---probably not a hard one---is tomorrow.

Having been away from LyX for a while, I'm a little rusty. I don't know if this 
is even possible. When I click on View other formats, the RTF format is 
greyed out. If in fact I can compile for or export to RTF, I'd like to give it 
a try.

Es posible?

Gracias,
--
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net

The invincible shield of caring
Is a weapon sent from the sky 
against being dead. 

- Tao Te Ching 67









Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-07-31 Thread Richard Heck

On 07/31/2012 07:10 AM, Eric Weir wrote:


I've been away from LyX for a while, writing in Vim. I now have a 
document that I need to cut down to 3,500 words from just under 5,000, 
put references in, and get into APA format in Word. Normally, I would 
dump the draft in Scrivener, do this work, then compile for Word. I 
really want to get completely over into working within Vim/LyX/LaTeX. 
I'm considering dumping the draft in LyX and working from within it. 
My deadline---probably not a hard one---is tomorrow.


Having been away from LyX for a while, I'm a little rusty. I don't 
know if this is even possible. When I click on View other formats, 
the RTF format is greyed out. If in fact I can compile for or export 
to RTF, I'd like to give it a try.


Es posible?

If you want to export to RTF, then you need to install latex2rtf or some 
similar program. But I've had better luck lately exporting to the 
LyXHTML format, and then loading that in LibreOffice.


Richard



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-07-31 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 I've been away from LyX for a while, writing in Vim. I now have a document
 that I need to cut down to 3,500 words from just under 5,000, put references
 in, and get into APA format in Word. Normally, I would dump the draft in
 Scrivener, do this work, then compile for Word. I really want to get
 completely over into working within Vim/LyX/LaTeX. I'm considering dumping
 the draft in LyX and working from within it. My deadline---probably not a
 hard one---is tomorrow.

 Having been away from LyX for a while, I'm a little rusty. I don't know if
 this is even possible. When I click on View other formats, the RTF format
 is greyed out. If in fact I can compile for or export to RTF, I'd like to
 give it a try.

Importing/Exporting RTF/Word documents is usually a pain with
LyX/LaTeX. This has been discussed extensively in the past on the
list, and I think there is also something on the wiki. In addition to
Richard's suggestions, you could try eLyXer for HTML export (to be
imported into Word) and the LibO-powered export to ODT (although I'm
not seeing it in my menus right now).

Good luck
Liviu

PS Maybe Steve and Rob have something to add on Vim/LyX/Scrivener.


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-07-31 Thread Nico Williams
Using XHTMP export has the benefit that you can then use XSLT.  I've
used this successfully to export LyX format to an unrelated XML
schema.

Nico
--


Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-07-31 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Richard Heck wrote:

 If you want to export to RTF, then you need to install latex2rtf or some 
 similar program. But I've had better luck lately exporting to the LyXHTML 
 format, and then loading that in LibreOffice.

I wouldn't have considered HTML, but if you can get a Word-compatible document 
that way I'm willing to try.

Occurs to me that I might ask this journal if they accept LaTeX. I've always 
sent Word-compatible in the past, and have just assumed that's what they want, 
or all that they'll accept. 

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA  USA
eew...@bellsouth.net

Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position, 
but certainty is an absurd one.
 
- Voltaire



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-07-31 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 Importing/Exporting RTF/Word documents is usually a pain with
 LyX/LaTeX. This has been discussed extensively in the past on the
 list, and I think there is also something on the wiki.

Darn, I thought I remembered otherwise. 

 In addition to
 Richard's suggestions, you could try eLyXer for HTML export (to be
 imported into Word) and the LibO-powered export to ODT (although I'm
 not seeing it in my menus right now).

Are you suggesting that they're in the LyX package?

--
Eric Weir
 Clairemont Avenue J3 ~ Decatur, GA 30030
404-636-6142 ~ eew...@bellsouth.net



Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-07-31 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:

 Importing/Exporting RTF/Word documents is usually a pain with
 LyX/LaTeX.

Why is the RTF option under View other formats greyed out?

--
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA
eew...@bellsouth.net

What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, 
men would die from a great loneliness of spirit. 

- Chief Seattle








Re: Working in LyX from the get-go---more or less

2012-07-31 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 In addition to
 Richard's suggestions, you could try eLyXer for HTML export (to be
 imported into Word) and the LibO-powered export to ODT (although I'm
 not seeing it in my menus right now).

 Are you suggesting that they're in the LyX package?

LyX comes with support for a lot of external tools, provided that
these are installed and that LyX is 'reconfigured' (Tools 
Reconfigure). A good place to check which additional packages are
supported is the Debian/Ubuntu .deb packages (the 'suggested' list).
Another way is to check the 'configure.py' script coming with LyX.

Liviu


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