Re: abstract - pages

[stefano franchi]

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:57 PM, bart deruyter  wrote:
> Hi, thanks for your reply.
>
> I'm writing a book, a manuscript, and all publishers here in Belgium need a
> summary of the story to evaluate it. Since it is quite a big story I'm
> writing, several hundreds of pages, it seems impossible to cram the abstract
> into one single page without loosing most of the essential story lines.

This is common in the US as well---you always include a summary in a
book proposal sent out for evaluation. I would use a starred
command---*chapter or *section, depending on the style you prefer. It
would also fit better with the overall style of the book class, in my
opinion (margins would be the same, interline spacing would be
consistent, etc).

>
> I guess I'll have to try out other document classes then. The 'abstract'
> section definitely is part of the book(AMS) class though. I hope I won't
> have to dig into hacking a class to get what I want. I'm writing, the story
> must get finished and I have not time to code, nor do I want to get
> distracted by issues like this.

The stick with the book class and forget my suggestion about memoir.
The publisher would care very little about formatting in an evaluation
copy, anyways.


> Now I still need to get Dutch spell checking
> fixed too, doesn't work out of the box on Ubuntu aparently... another
> distraction I can miss.

Sorry I cannot help with that


Cheers,

Stefano

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Re: abstract - pages

[bart deruyter]

Hi, thanks for your reply.

I'm writing a book, a manuscript, and all publishers here in Belgium need a
summary of the story to evaluate it. Since it is quite a big story I'm
writing, several hundreds of pages, it seems impossible to cram the
abstract into one single page without loosing most of the essential story
lines.

I guess I'll have to try out other document classes then. The 'abstract'
section definitely is part of the book(AMS) class though. I hope I won't
have to dig into hacking a class to get what I want. I'm writing, the story
must get finished and I have not time to code, nor do I want to get
distracted by issues like this. Now I still need to get Dutch spell
checking fixed too, doesn't work out of the box on Ubuntu aparently...
another distraction I can miss.

Thanks for tips though..

grtz,
Bart

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2012/6/19 stefano franchi 

> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:17 AM, bart deruyter 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > no reactions at all? Or is this mail lost in the flood?
> >
>
> Hi Bart,
>
> here is a reaction, even though perhaps not the one you're looking
> for: why would you want a multi-page abstract in a book? Have you
> thought about using a different environment for what you are trying to
> accomplish?  To stress the obvious, abstracts are short summaries
> generally used for articles only. I don't know the details, but it is
> very possible that the possibility of a multi-page abstract is not
> even contemplated in the latex class you are using. Hence the problem
> you are facing. If you're trying to provide something like an
> "Executive summary," a combination of unnumbered document divisions
> (i.e. the starred command" *chapter, *section, etc) and ad-hoc
> formatting may be all you need. Or you may look into the memoir class,
> which offers a more powerful abstract environment than the standard
> classes. I think the Komascript book class offers similar facilities.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stefano
>
>
> > grtz,
> > Bart
> > http://www.bartart3d.be/
> > On facebook
> > On Twitter
> > On Identi.ca
> > On Google+
> >
> >
> >
> > 2012/6/18 bart deruyter 
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I'm using the book (AMS) class for my book here, and I've added an
> >> abstract. Now the abstract is longer then one page there seems to be
> quite
> >> an issue. In the pdf I see the text run through the bottom margin, and
> is
> >> cut off at the bottom edge of the page. Instead of printing it onto the
> next
> >> page it seems like the 'abstract part' thinks that the page is longer,
> while
> >> it isn't. The next page is blank, where the text should continue.
> >>
> >> What can I do to solve this problem?
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >>
> >> Bart
> >> http://www.bartart3d.be/
> >> On facebook
> >> On Twitter
> >> On Identi.ca
> >> On Google+
> >>
> >
>
>
>
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> __
> Stefano Franchi
> Associate Research Professor
> Department of Hispanic StudiesPh:   +1 (979) 845-2125
> Texas A&M University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
> College Station, Texas, USA
>
> stef...@tamu.edu
> http://stefano.cleinias.org
>

Re: abstract - pages

[stefano franchi]

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:17 AM, bart deruyter  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> no reactions at all? Or is this mail lost in the flood?
>

Hi Bart,

here is a reaction, even though perhaps not the one you're looking
for: why would you want a multi-page abstract in a book? Have you
thought about using a different environment for what you are trying to
accomplish?  To stress the obvious, abstracts are short summaries
generally used for articles only. I don't know the details, but it is
very possible that the possibility of a multi-page abstract is not
even contemplated in the latex class you are using. Hence the problem
you are facing. If you're trying to provide something like an
"Executive summary," a combination of unnumbered document divisions
(i.e. the starred command" *chapter, *section, etc) and ad-hoc
formatting may be all you need. Or you may look into the memoir class,
which offers a more powerful abstract environment than the standard
classes. I think the Komascript book class offers similar facilities.

Cheers,

Stefano


> grtz,
> Bart
> http://www.bartart3d.be/
> On facebook
> On Twitter
> On Identi.ca
> On Google+
>
>
>
> 2012/6/18 bart deruyter 
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm using the book (AMS) class for my book here, and I've added an
>> abstract. Now the abstract is longer then one page there seems to be quite
>> an issue. In the pdf I see the text run through the bottom margin, and is
>> cut off at the bottom edge of the page. Instead of printing it onto the next
>> page it seems like the 'abstract part' thinks that the page is longer, while
>> it isn't. The next page is blank, where the text should continue.
>>
>> What can I do to solve this problem?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Bart
>> http://www.bartart3d.be/
>> On facebook
>> On Twitter
>> On Identi.ca
>> On Google+
>>
>



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__
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Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies            Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A&M University                          Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
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Re: abstract - pages

[bart deruyter]

Hi,

no reactions at all? Or is this mail lost in the flood?

grtz,
Bart
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2012/6/18 bart deruyter 

> Hi all,
>
> I'm using the book (AMS) class for my book here, and I've added an
> abstract. Now the abstract is longer then one page there seems to be quite
> an issue. In the pdf I see the text run through the bottom margin, and is
> cut off at the bottom edge of the page. Instead of printing it onto the
> next page it seems like the 'abstract part' thinks that the page is longer,
> while it isn't. The next page is blank, where the text should continue.
>
> What can I do to solve this problem?
>
> thanks,
>
> Bart
> http://www.bartart3d.be/
> On facebook 
> On Twitter 
> On Identi.ca 
> On Google+ 
>
>

abstract - pages

[bart deruyter]

Hi all,

I'm using the book (AMS) class for my book here, and I've added an
abstract. Now the abstract is longer then one page there seems to be quite
an issue. In the pdf I see the text run through the bottom margin, and is
cut off at the bottom edge of the page. Instead of printing it onto the
next page it seems like the 'abstract part' thinks that the page is longer,
while it isn't. The next page is blank, where the text should continue.

What can I do to solve this problem?

thanks,

Bart
http://www.bartart3d.be/
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On Twitter 
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