confusion about IEEEtran vs. ieee bib

2014-03-06 Thread Neal Becker 
I'm using ieeetr bib option in lyx, which uses ieeetr bib style.

I'm using texlive on fedora 20.  I also have a package:

rpm -ql  texlive-biblatex-ieee
/usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee
/usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee/lppl1.3.txt
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.bbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.cbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.bbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.cbx

What is this, how would lyx use it, and should I care?

Re: confusion about IEEEtran vs. ieee bib

2014-03-06 Thread stefano franchi 
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm using ieeetr bib option in lyx, which uses ieeetr bib style.

 I'm using texlive on fedora 20.  I also have a package:

 rpm -ql  texlive-biblatex-ieee
 /usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee
 /usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee/lppl1.3.txt
 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.bbx
 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.cbx
 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.bbx
 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.cbx


 What is this,

Well, these are two biblatex styles for ieee (cbx files are the
citation styles, and .bbx files are the style for the references
section). If you use standard bibtex you can safely ignore them. You
probably have one or more  .bst files in your installation (perhaps
ieeetr.bst) that governs formatting under bibtex. Should you decide to
use biblatex instead, you would probably use the styles you listed.



 how would lyx use it

See the wiki page on biblatex on how to use it from within lyx.
Support is currently only partial. That means yo uneed to load
bibalatex (with the required styles) and the .bib file  manually from
the preamble. You can insert citation directly with LyX interface,
unless you want to do fancy things.

 and should I care?

I'm afraid that's up to you to decide...;-)


Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

confusion about IEEEtran vs. ieee bib

2014-03-06 Thread Neal Becker 
I'm using ieeetr bib option in lyx, which uses ieeetr bib style.

I'm using texlive on fedora 20.  I also have a package:

rpm -ql  texlive-biblatex-ieee
/usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee
/usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee/lppl1.3.txt
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.bbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.cbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.bbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.cbx

What is this, how would lyx use it, and should I care?

Re: confusion about IEEEtran vs. ieee bib

2014-03-06 Thread stefano franchi 
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm using ieeetr bib option in lyx, which uses ieeetr bib style.

 I'm using texlive on fedora 20.  I also have a package:

 rpm -ql  texlive-biblatex-ieee
 /usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee
 /usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee/lppl1.3.txt
 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.bbx
 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.cbx
 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.bbx
 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.cbx


 What is this,

Well, these are two biblatex styles for ieee (cbx files are the
citation styles, and .bbx files are the style for the references
section). If you use standard bibtex you can safely ignore them. You
probably have one or more  .bst files in your installation (perhaps
ieeetr.bst) that governs formatting under bibtex. Should you decide to
use biblatex instead, you would probably use the styles you listed.



 how would lyx use it

See the wiki page on biblatex on how to use it from within lyx.
Support is currently only partial. That means yo uneed to load
bibalatex (with the required styles) and the .bib file  manually from
the preamble. You can insert citation directly with LyX interface,
unless you want to do fancy things.

 and should I care?

I'm afraid that's up to you to decide...;-)


Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas AM University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org

confusion about IEEEtran vs. ieee bib

2014-03-06 Thread Neal Becker 
I'm using ieeetr bib option in lyx, which uses ieeetr bib style.

I'm using texlive on fedora 20.  I also have a package:

rpm -ql  texlive-biblatex-ieee
/usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee
/usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee/lppl1.3.txt
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.bbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.cbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.bbx
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.cbx

What is this, how would lyx use it, and should I care?

Re: confusion about IEEEtran vs. ieee bib

2014-03-06 Thread stefano franchi 
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:
> I'm using ieeetr bib option in lyx, which uses ieeetr bib style.
>
> I'm using texlive on fedora 20.  I also have a package:
>
> rpm -ql  texlive-biblatex-ieee
> /usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee
> /usr/share/doc/texlive-biblatex-ieee/lppl1.3.txt
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.bbx
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee-alphabetic.cbx
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.bbx
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/latex/biblatex-ieee/ieee.cbx
>

> What is this,

Well, these are two biblatex styles for ieee (cbx files are the
citation styles, and .bbx files are the style for the references
section). If you use standard bibtex you can safely ignore them. You
probably have one or more  .bst files in your installation (perhaps
ieeetr.bst) that governs formatting under bibtex. Should you decide to
use biblatex instead, you would probably use the styles you listed.



> how would lyx use it

See the wiki page on biblatex on how to use it from within lyx.
Support is currently only partial. That means yo uneed to load
bibalatex (with the required styles) and the .bib file  manually from
the preamble. You can insert citation directly with LyX interface,
unless you want to do fancy things.

> and should I care?

I'm afraid that's up to you to decide...;-)


Cheers,

Stefano


-- 
__
Stefano Franchi
Associate Research Professor
Department of Hispanic Studies Ph:   +1 (979) 845-2125
Texas A University  Fax:  +1 (979) 845-6421
College Station, Texas, USA

stef...@tamu.edu
http://stefano.cleinias.org