Re: font mystery

2016-11-13 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2016-11-11, Neal Becker wrote:
> I've written several IEEE publications using lyx.  They only accept .dvi 
> (not pdf).

> When I'm writing I use:
> settings/fonts/non-tex (all defaults)
> and
> settings/output/pdf(luatex)

> When I submit 
> uncheck: settings/fonts/non-tex
> settings/output/dvi(luatex)

> The results look very different.  The 2nd (submit) version has much heavier 
> font, especially the title.  Actually, I think it looks more readable.

> I have no idea why.

With non-tex fonts, you are overriding the document class default font
settings. non-tex fonts by default use the Unicode-encoded version of
LatinModern.

AFAIK, IEEE document classes set some Times-like 8-bit fonts. These are also
used with DVI(LuaTeX) unless you use fontspec (via the "non-TeX fonts"
setting).

G√ľnter



font mystery

2016-11-11 Thread Neal Becker
I've written several IEEE publications using lyx.  They only accept .dvi 
(not pdf).

When I'm writing I use:
settings/fonts/non-tex (all defaults)
and
settings/output/pdf(luatex)

When I submit 
uncheck: settings/fonts/non-tex
settings/output/dvi(luatex)

The results look very different.  The 2nd (submit) version has much heavier 
font, especially the title.  Actually, I think it looks more readable.

I have no idea why.



Re: Font mystery

2007-01-23 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Paul == Paul A Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Paul Hi all, I've got a recurring issue with LyX 1.4.3-4 (and -5, I
Paul think). It manifests as LyX displaying the wrong glyphs for some
Paul symbols in math insets (although math preview converts them
Paul correctly). For instance, the integral sign displays as a
Paul capital R. Uninstalling and reinstalling the Bakoma4LyX fonts
Paul cures the problem, and previously I've blamed this (possibly
Paul incorrectly) on the fonts that install with LyX. However, it
Paul happened again today, and I have not updated LyX on my laptop
Paul recently. Sure enough, deleting the eight TrueType font files in
Paul the Bakoma4LyX package and then reinstalling them cured the
Paul problem. However, before I did that I ran file comparisons
Paul between the ones in the Bakoma4LyX archive and the ones in the
Paul Windows font directory, and they were identical!

I thought the fonts were installed in LyX' font/ subdirectory. Are you
really supposed to install them globally too?


LyX 1.3.x required global installation.  Somewhere around LyX 1.4.2, LyX 
started providing them in a font/ subdirectory, but that's when I 
started getting display adventures.  So I deleted the LyX font/ 
directory and reinstalled globally.



Could it be that the problem occurs when you run two instances of LyX
simultaneously? Then quitting one of them would unregister the fonts.


That happens on rare occasions (when I double-click a document before 
remembering that LyX is already open), but the display problem occurs 
with just one version running.  I did a font reinstall yesterday that 
'fixed' the display.  Today it's back to being screwed up, and I don't 
think I have run two instances of LyX simultaneously in the interim. 
Even if the fonts are unregistered, shouldn't starting LyX (with no 
other instances running) reregister them?


Thanks for the idea,
/Paul



Re: Font mystery

2007-01-23 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Paul == Paul A Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Paul Hi all, I've got a recurring issue with LyX 1.4.3-4 (and -5, I
Paul think). It manifests as LyX displaying the wrong glyphs for some
Paul symbols in math insets (although math preview converts them
Paul correctly). For instance, the integral sign displays as a
Paul capital R. Uninstalling and reinstalling the Bakoma4LyX fonts
Paul cures the problem, and previously I've blamed this (possibly
Paul incorrectly) on the fonts that install with LyX. However, it
Paul happened again today, and I have not updated LyX on my laptop
Paul recently. Sure enough, deleting the eight TrueType font files in
Paul the Bakoma4LyX package and then reinstalling them cured the
Paul problem. However, before I did that I ran file comparisons
Paul between the ones in the Bakoma4LyX archive and the ones in the
Paul Windows font directory, and they were identical!

I thought the fonts were installed in LyX' font/ subdirectory. Are you
really supposed to install them globally too?


LyX 1.3.x required global installation.  Somewhere around LyX 1.4.2, LyX 
started providing them in a font/ subdirectory, but that's when I 
started getting display adventures.  So I deleted the LyX font/ 
directory and reinstalled globally.



Could it be that the problem occurs when you run two instances of LyX
simultaneously? Then quitting one of them would unregister the fonts.


That happens on rare occasions (when I double-click a document before 
remembering that LyX is already open), but the display problem occurs 
with just one version running.  I did a font reinstall yesterday that 
'fixed' the display.  Today it's back to being screwed up, and I don't 
think I have run two instances of LyX simultaneously in the interim. 
Even if the fonts are unregistered, shouldn't starting LyX (with no 
other instances running) reregister them?


Thanks for the idea,
/Paul



Re: Font mystery

2007-01-23 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

"Paul" == Paul A Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Paul> Hi all, I've got a recurring issue with LyX 1.4.3-4 (and -5, I
Paul> think). It manifests as LyX displaying the wrong glyphs for some
Paul> symbols in math insets (although math preview converts them
Paul> correctly). For instance, the integral sign displays as a
Paul> capital R. Uninstalling and reinstalling the Bakoma4LyX fonts
Paul> cures the problem, and previously I've blamed this (possibly
Paul> incorrectly) on the fonts that install with LyX. However, it
Paul> happened again today, and I have not updated LyX on my laptop
Paul> recently. Sure enough, deleting the eight TrueType font files in
Paul> the Bakoma4LyX package and then reinstalling them cured the
Paul> problem. However, before I did that I ran file comparisons
Paul> between the ones in the Bakoma4LyX archive and the ones in the
Paul> Windows font directory, and they were identical!

I thought the fonts were installed in LyX' font/ subdirectory. Are you
really supposed to install them globally too?


LyX 1.3.x required global installation.  Somewhere around LyX 1.4.2, LyX 
started providing them in a font/ subdirectory, but that's when I 
started getting display adventures.  So I deleted the LyX font/ 
directory and reinstalled globally.



Could it be that the problem occurs when you run two instances of LyX
simultaneously? Then quitting one of them would unregister the fonts.


That happens on rare occasions (when I double-click a document before 
remembering that LyX is already open), but the display problem occurs 
with just one version running.  I did a font reinstall yesterday that 
'fixed' the display.  Today it's back to being screwed up, and I don't 
think I have run two instances of LyX simultaneously in the interim. 
Even if the fonts are unregistered, shouldn't starting LyX (with no 
other instances running) reregister them?


Thanks for the idea,
/Paul



Font mystery

2007-01-22 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Hi all,

I've got a recurring issue with LyX 1.4.3-4 (and -5, I think).  It 
manifests as LyX displaying the wrong glyphs for some symbols in math 
insets (although math preview converts them correctly).  For instance, 
the integral sign displays as a capital R.  Uninstalling and 
reinstalling the Bakoma4LyX fonts cures the problem, and previously I've 
blamed this (possibly incorrectly) on the fonts that install with LyX. 
However, it happened again today, and I have not updated LyX on my 
laptop recently.  Sure enough, deleting the eight TrueType font files in 
the Bakoma4LyX package and then reinstalling them cured the problem. 
However, before I did that I ran file comparisons between the ones in 
the Bakoma4LyX archive and the ones in the Windows font directory, and 
they were identical!


So it appears that rather than fixing overwritten files, the act of 
reinstallation is perhaps just causing something in memory to be 
refreshed (?).  If so, what's getting clobbered, and by what?  Is it a 
LyX issue, or is some other application screwing up one of the fonts (in 
memory only)?  Or is this some Windows pathology?


Any thoughts?

/Paul



Re: Font mystery

2007-01-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Paul == Paul A Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Paul Hi all, I've got a recurring issue with LyX 1.4.3-4 (and -5, I
Paul think). It manifests as LyX displaying the wrong glyphs for some
Paul symbols in math insets (although math preview converts them
Paul correctly). For instance, the integral sign displays as a
Paul capital R. Uninstalling and reinstalling the Bakoma4LyX fonts
Paul cures the problem, and previously I've blamed this (possibly
Paul incorrectly) on the fonts that install with LyX. However, it
Paul happened again today, and I have not updated LyX on my laptop
Paul recently. Sure enough, deleting the eight TrueType font files in
Paul the Bakoma4LyX package and then reinstalling them cured the
Paul problem. However, before I did that I ran file comparisons
Paul between the ones in the Bakoma4LyX archive and the ones in the
Paul Windows font directory, and they were identical!

I thought the fonts were installed in LyX' font/ subdirectory. Are you
really supposed to install them globally too? 

Could it be that the problem occurs when you run two instances of LyX
simultaneously? Then quitting one of them would unregister the fonts.

JMarc


Font mystery

2007-01-22 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Hi all,

I've got a recurring issue with LyX 1.4.3-4 (and -5, I think).  It 
manifests as LyX displaying the wrong glyphs for some symbols in math 
insets (although math preview converts them correctly).  For instance, 
the integral sign displays as a capital R.  Uninstalling and 
reinstalling the Bakoma4LyX fonts cures the problem, and previously I've 
blamed this (possibly incorrectly) on the fonts that install with LyX. 
However, it happened again today, and I have not updated LyX on my 
laptop recently.  Sure enough, deleting the eight TrueType font files in 
the Bakoma4LyX package and then reinstalling them cured the problem. 
However, before I did that I ran file comparisons between the ones in 
the Bakoma4LyX archive and the ones in the Windows font directory, and 
they were identical!


So it appears that rather than fixing overwritten files, the act of 
reinstallation is perhaps just causing something in memory to be 
refreshed (?).  If so, what's getting clobbered, and by what?  Is it a 
LyX issue, or is some other application screwing up one of the fonts (in 
memory only)?  Or is this some Windows pathology?


Any thoughts?

/Paul



Re: Font mystery

2007-01-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Paul == Paul A Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Paul Hi all, I've got a recurring issue with LyX 1.4.3-4 (and -5, I
Paul think). It manifests as LyX displaying the wrong glyphs for some
Paul symbols in math insets (although math preview converts them
Paul correctly). For instance, the integral sign displays as a
Paul capital R. Uninstalling and reinstalling the Bakoma4LyX fonts
Paul cures the problem, and previously I've blamed this (possibly
Paul incorrectly) on the fonts that install with LyX. However, it
Paul happened again today, and I have not updated LyX on my laptop
Paul recently. Sure enough, deleting the eight TrueType font files in
Paul the Bakoma4LyX package and then reinstalling them cured the
Paul problem. However, before I did that I ran file comparisons
Paul between the ones in the Bakoma4LyX archive and the ones in the
Paul Windows font directory, and they were identical!

I thought the fonts were installed in LyX' font/ subdirectory. Are you
really supposed to install them globally too? 

Could it be that the problem occurs when you run two instances of LyX
simultaneously? Then quitting one of them would unregister the fonts.

JMarc


Font mystery

2007-01-22 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Hi all,

I've got a recurring issue with LyX 1.4.3-4 (and -5, I think).  It 
manifests as LyX displaying the wrong glyphs for some symbols in math 
insets (although math preview converts them correctly).  For instance, 
the integral sign displays as a capital R.  Uninstalling and 
reinstalling the Bakoma4LyX fonts cures the problem, and previously I've 
blamed this (possibly incorrectly) on the fonts that install with LyX. 
However, it happened again today, and I have not updated LyX on my 
laptop recently.  Sure enough, deleting the eight TrueType font files in 
the Bakoma4LyX package and then reinstalling them cured the problem. 
However, before I did that I ran file comparisons between the ones in 
the Bakoma4LyX archive and the ones in the Windows font directory, and 
they were identical!


So it appears that rather than fixing overwritten files, the act of 
reinstallation is perhaps just causing something in memory to be 
refreshed (?).  If so, what's getting clobbered, and by what?  Is it a 
LyX issue, or is some other application screwing up one of the fonts (in 
memory only)?  Or is this some Windows pathology?


Any thoughts?

/Paul



Re: Font mystery

2007-01-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Paul" == Paul A Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Paul> Hi all, I've got a recurring issue with LyX 1.4.3-4 (and -5, I
Paul> think). It manifests as LyX displaying the wrong glyphs for some
Paul> symbols in math insets (although math preview converts them
Paul> correctly). For instance, the integral sign displays as a
Paul> capital R. Uninstalling and reinstalling the Bakoma4LyX fonts
Paul> cures the problem, and previously I've blamed this (possibly
Paul> incorrectly) on the fonts that install with LyX. However, it
Paul> happened again today, and I have not updated LyX on my laptop
Paul> recently. Sure enough, deleting the eight TrueType font files in
Paul> the Bakoma4LyX package and then reinstalling them cured the
Paul> problem. However, before I did that I ran file comparisons
Paul> between the ones in the Bakoma4LyX archive and the ones in the
Paul> Windows font directory, and they were identical!

I thought the fonts were installed in LyX' font/ subdirectory. Are you
really supposed to install them globally too? 

Could it be that the problem occurs when you run two instances of LyX
simultaneously? Then quitting one of them would unregister the fonts.

JMarc