Re: how to really deal with figures?
Baruch Even I'm working on InsetGraphics, a rewrite of FigInset. Dekel Tsur The external inset will not work with pdflatex. I Does this mean that LyX 1.2 will not support pdfTeX??? Baruch Even Actually the InsetGraphics will have better support, the Baruch Even External Inset is something different than InsetGraphics. Baruch Even [...] Baruch Even I believe that for 1.2.0, the InsetGraphics will be ready Baruch Even for prime time and this will support pdflatex better. Thank you for the explanation! Now I am very relieved :-) I must admit that I misunderstood the situation. Regards Marcus
Re: how to really deal with figures?
Baruch Even I'm working on InsetGraphics, a rewrite of FigInset. Dekel Tsur The external inset will not work with pdflatex. I Does this mean that LyX 1.2 will not support pdfTeX??? Baruch Even Actually the InsetGraphics will have better support, the Baruch Even External Inset is something different than InsetGraphics. Baruch Even [...] Baruch Even I believe that for 1.2.0, the InsetGraphics will be ready Baruch Even for prime time and this will support pdflatex better. Thank you for the explanation! Now I am very relieved :-) I must admit that I misunderstood the situation. Regards Marcus
Re: how to really deal with figures?
> > Baruch Even > I'm working on InsetGraphics, a rewrite of FigInset. > > Dekel Tsur > The external inset will not work with pdflatex. > I > Does this mean that LyX 1.2 will not support pdfTeX??? Baruch Even > Actually the InsetGraphics will have better support, the Baruch Even > External Inset is something different than InsetGraphics. Baruch Even > [...] Baruch Even > I believe that for 1.2.0, the InsetGraphics will be ready Baruch Even > for prime time and this will support pdflatex better. Thank you for the explanation! Now I am very relieved :-) I must admit that I misunderstood the situation. Regards Marcus
Re: how to really deal with figures?
* Marcus Beyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010210 22:18]: Baruch Even I'm working on InsetGraphics, a rewrite of FigInset. Dekel Tsur The external inset will not work with pdflatex. Does this mean that LyX 1.2 will not support pdfTeX??? Actually the InsetGraphics will have better support, the External Inset is something different than InsetGraphics. IG will have support for bitmap images by auto-converting them to something that the used layout program can use. That is when using pdflatex it will take whatever image format that you gave it and convert it to PNG for inclusion, if you'd use latex it will convert it to EPS. The last thing missing to replace the older FigInset is inline viewing, and this is being worked on. I believe that for 1.2.0, the InsetGraphics will be ready for prime time and this will support pdflatex better. The External Inset is an altogether different beast, it is intended to allow inclusion of external materials, like a datestamp or database information, or anything else that is external to LyX itself. It has superior support for auto-conversion and inclusion, for example it will do a better job at including xfig images than the InsetGraphics. At a later version External Inset and InsetGraphics might be merged so that the EI will have the inline rendering and image controls (resizing and co) of InsetGraphics, this will lead to better support of external material inclusion. -- Baruch Even http://baruch.ev-en.org/
Re: how to really deal with figures?
* Marcus Beyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010210 22:18]: Baruch Even I'm working on InsetGraphics, a rewrite of FigInset. Dekel Tsur The external inset will not work with pdflatex. Does this mean that LyX 1.2 will not support pdfTeX??? Actually the InsetGraphics will have better support, the External Inset is something different than InsetGraphics. IG will have support for bitmap images by auto-converting them to something that the used layout program can use. That is when using pdflatex it will take whatever image format that you gave it and convert it to PNG for inclusion, if you'd use latex it will convert it to EPS. The last thing missing to replace the older FigInset is inline viewing, and this is being worked on. I believe that for 1.2.0, the InsetGraphics will be ready for prime time and this will support pdflatex better. The External Inset is an altogether different beast, it is intended to allow inclusion of external materials, like a datestamp or database information, or anything else that is external to LyX itself. It has superior support for auto-conversion and inclusion, for example it will do a better job at including xfig images than the InsetGraphics. At a later version External Inset and InsetGraphics might be merged so that the EI will have the inline rendering and image controls (resizing and co) of InsetGraphics, this will lead to better support of external material inclusion. -- Baruch Even http://baruch.ev-en.org/
Re: how to really deal with figures?
* Marcus Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010210 22:18]: > > Baruch Even > I'm working on InsetGraphics, a rewrite of FigInset. > Dekel Tsur > The external inset will not work with pdflatex. > > Does this mean that LyX 1.2 will not support pdfTeX??? Actually the InsetGraphics will have better support, the External Inset is something different than InsetGraphics. IG will have support for bitmap images by auto-converting them to something that the used layout program can use. That is when using pdflatex it will take whatever image format that you gave it and convert it to PNG for inclusion, if you'd use latex it will convert it to EPS. The last thing missing to replace the older FigInset is inline viewing, and this is being worked on. I believe that for 1.2.0, the InsetGraphics will be ready for prime time and this will support pdflatex better. The External Inset is an altogether different beast, it is intended to allow inclusion of external materials, like a datestamp or database information, or anything else that is external to LyX itself. It has superior support for auto-conversion and inclusion, for example it will do a better job at including xfig images than the InsetGraphics. At a later version External Inset and InsetGraphics might be merged so that the EI will have the inline rendering and image controls (resizing and co) of InsetGraphics, this will lead to better support of external material inclusion. -- Baruch Even http://baruch.ev-en.org/
Re: how to really deal with figures?
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 11:34:12PM +0100, Marcus Beyer wrote: Baruch Even I'm working on InsetGraphics, a rewrite of FigInset. Dekel Tsur The external inset will not work with pdflatex. Does this mean that LyX 1.2 will not support pdfTeX??? How did you conclude that ? LyX 1.2 will actually have better support for pdfTeX.
Re: how to really deal with figures?
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 11:34:12PM +0100, Marcus Beyer wrote: Baruch Even I'm working on InsetGraphics, a rewrite of FigInset. Dekel Tsur The external inset will not work with pdflatex. Does this mean that LyX 1.2 will not support pdfTeX??? How did you conclude that ? LyX 1.2 will actually have better support for pdfTeX.
Re: how to really deal with figures?
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 11:34:12PM +0100, Marcus Beyer wrote: > > Baruch Even > I'm working on InsetGraphics, a rewrite of FigInset. > Dekel Tsur > The external inset will not work with pdflatex. > > Does this mean that LyX 1.2 will not support pdfTeX??? How did you conclude that ? LyX 1.2 will actually have better support for pdfTeX.
Re: how to really deal with figures?
Baruch Even I'm working on InsetGraphics, a rewrite of FigInset. Dekel Tsur The external inset will not work with pdflatex. Does this mean that LyX 1.2 will not support pdfTeX??? Marcus http://www.Stormlight.de/lyx_de.html
Re: how to really deal with figures?
Baruch Even I'm working on InsetGraphics, a rewrite of FigInset. Dekel Tsur The external inset will not work with pdflatex. Does this mean that LyX 1.2 will not support pdfTeX??? Marcus http://www.Stormlight.de/lyx_de.html
Re: how to really deal with figures?
Baruch Even > I'm working on InsetGraphics, a rewrite of FigInset. Dekel Tsur > The external inset will not work with pdflatex. Does this mean that LyX 1.2 will not support pdfTeX??? Marcus http://www.Stormlight.de/lyx_de.html
Re: how to really deal with figures?
On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 12:56:56AM +0200, Baruch Even wrote: - figures render and scale correctly in the LyX GUI - 'View - DVI' works correctly - 'View - PS' works correctly - 'View - PDF (pdflatex)' works correctly If you agree to lose rendering and scaling in the gui you can use the new external inset, it will accept your .fig file and will convert it by itself into PNG or EPS for inclusion into the document when you export or preview. The external inset will not work with pdflatex.
Re: how to really deal with figures?
On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 09:51:37PM +0100, Friedemann Baitinger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am having real problems with integrating figures into LyX documents. If I include them as .eps files, then for instance "View - PDF (pdflatex)" does not work. If I leave the .eps extension away, then the figures are not rendered correctly in the LyX GUI, and the "View - DVI" causes Latex to hang in the background for way too long and eventually aborts with 50 error boxes, however, the "View - PDF" obviously works this way. (I am using xfig to create the figures and then fig2dev commandlines to generate .eps and .pdf out of the .fig files) What errors are you getting ?
Re: how to really deal with figures?
On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 12:56:56AM +0200, Baruch Even wrote: - figures render and scale correctly in the LyX GUI - 'View - DVI' works correctly - 'View - PS' works correctly - 'View - PDF (pdflatex)' works correctly If you agree to lose rendering and scaling in the gui you can use the new external inset, it will accept your .fig file and will convert it by itself into PNG or EPS for inclusion into the document when you export or preview. The external inset will not work with pdflatex.
Re: how to really deal with figures?
On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 09:51:37PM +0100, Friedemann Baitinger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am having real problems with integrating figures into LyX documents. If I include them as .eps files, then for instance "View - PDF (pdflatex)" does not work. If I leave the .eps extension away, then the figures are not rendered correctly in the LyX GUI, and the "View - DVI" causes Latex to hang in the background for way too long and eventually aborts with 50 error boxes, however, the "View - PDF" obviously works this way. (I am using xfig to create the figures and then fig2dev commandlines to generate .eps and .pdf out of the .fig files) What errors are you getting ?
Re: how to really deal with figures?
On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 12:56:56AM +0200, Baruch Even wrote: > > - figures render and scale correctly in the LyX GUI > > - 'View -> DVI' works correctly > > - 'View -> PS' works correctly > > - 'View -> PDF (pdflatex)' works correctly > > If you agree to lose rendering and scaling in the gui you can use the > new external inset, it will accept your .fig file and will convert it by > itself into PNG or EPS for inclusion into the document when you export > or preview. The external inset will not work with pdflatex.
Re: how to really deal with figures?
On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 09:51:37PM +0100, Friedemann Baitinger wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I am having real problems with integrating figures into LyX documents. > If I include them as .eps files, then for instance "View -> PDF > (pdflatex)" does not work. If I leave the .eps extension away, then > the figures are not rendered correctly in the LyX GUI, and the "View -> > DVI" causes Latex to hang in the background for way too long and > eventually aborts with >50 error boxes, however, the "View -> > PDF" obviously works this way. (I am using xfig to create the figures > and then fig2dev commandlines to generate .eps and .pdf out of the .fig > files) What errors are you getting ?
how to really deal with figures?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am having real problems with integrating figures into LyX documents. If I include them as .eps files, then for instance "View - PDF (pdflatex)" does not work. If I leave the .eps extension away, then the figures are not rendered correctly in the LyX GUI, and the "View - DVI" causes Latex to hang in the background for way too long and eventually aborts with 50 error boxes, however, the "View - PDF" obviously works this way. (I am using xfig to create the figures and then fig2dev commandlines to generate .eps and .pdf out of the .fig files) So here my questions: o What is the recommended package to create figures (boxes, circles, lines) wih LyX? o Is it possible to setup a document such that all of the following works?: - figures render and scale correctly in the LyX GUI - 'View - DVI' works correctly - 'View - PS' works correctly - 'View - PDF (pdflatex)' works correctly PS: I am using LyX 1.1.6 but the same problems were already there in previous versions, in fact I have upgraded to 1.1.6 hoping that the problems may have been fixed. - -- Friedemann Baitinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baiti.net/fb/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6fxJb8ZparKdkcvIRAocYAJ9sltgYOuzWbtbHf3ju9GR48rqr0QCgi1f8 iuznXzJIGc7/HrkIaC7TcHA= =NDvs -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: how to really deal with figures?
* Friedemann Baitinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010206 00:33]: So here my questions: o What is the recommended package to create figures (boxes, circles, lines) wih LyX? o Is it possible to setup a document such that all of the following works?: - figures render and scale correctly in the LyX GUI - 'View - DVI' works correctly - 'View - PS' works correctly - 'View - PDF (pdflatex)' works correctly If you agree to lose rendering and scaling in the gui you can use the new external inset, it will accept your .fig file and will convert it by itself into PNG or EPS for inclusion into the document when you export or preview. PS: I am using LyX 1.1.6 but the same problems were already there in previous versions, in fact I have upgraded to 1.1.6 hoping that the problems may have been fixed. I'm working on InsetGraphics, a rewrite of FigInset. It will probably be ready for 1.2.0 and will support the above requirements, it will take quite a few image formats (EPS, PNG, JPG, GIF) and convert them as needed for inclusion into the document. The problem is actually with the underlying LaTeX engine, the dvips engine accepts only EPS images, and pdflatex accepts PNG or PDF images but not EPS images. Essentially, LyX will need to convert the image to the required format. I already have the code needed to auto-convert the images, but the inline viewing code still has problems. -- Baruch Even http://baruch.ev-en.org/
how to really deal with figures?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am having real problems with integrating figures into LyX documents. If I include them as .eps files, then for instance "View - PDF (pdflatex)" does not work. If I leave the .eps extension away, then the figures are not rendered correctly in the LyX GUI, and the "View - DVI" causes Latex to hang in the background for way too long and eventually aborts with 50 error boxes, however, the "View - PDF" obviously works this way. (I am using xfig to create the figures and then fig2dev commandlines to generate .eps and .pdf out of the .fig files) So here my questions: o What is the recommended package to create figures (boxes, circles, lines) wih LyX? o Is it possible to setup a document such that all of the following works?: - figures render and scale correctly in the LyX GUI - 'View - DVI' works correctly - 'View - PS' works correctly - 'View - PDF (pdflatex)' works correctly PS: I am using LyX 1.1.6 but the same problems were already there in previous versions, in fact I have upgraded to 1.1.6 hoping that the problems may have been fixed. - -- Friedemann Baitinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baiti.net/fb/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6fxJb8ZparKdkcvIRAocYAJ9sltgYOuzWbtbHf3ju9GR48rqr0QCgi1f8 iuznXzJIGc7/HrkIaC7TcHA= =NDvs -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: how to really deal with figures?
* Friedemann Baitinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010206 00:33]: So here my questions: o What is the recommended package to create figures (boxes, circles, lines) wih LyX? o Is it possible to setup a document such that all of the following works?: - figures render and scale correctly in the LyX GUI - 'View - DVI' works correctly - 'View - PS' works correctly - 'View - PDF (pdflatex)' works correctly If you agree to lose rendering and scaling in the gui you can use the new external inset, it will accept your .fig file and will convert it by itself into PNG or EPS for inclusion into the document when you export or preview. PS: I am using LyX 1.1.6 but the same problems were already there in previous versions, in fact I have upgraded to 1.1.6 hoping that the problems may have been fixed. I'm working on InsetGraphics, a rewrite of FigInset. It will probably be ready for 1.2.0 and will support the above requirements, it will take quite a few image formats (EPS, PNG, JPG, GIF) and convert them as needed for inclusion into the document. The problem is actually with the underlying LaTeX engine, the dvips engine accepts only EPS images, and pdflatex accepts PNG or PDF images but not EPS images. Essentially, LyX will need to convert the image to the required format. I already have the code needed to auto-convert the images, but the inline viewing code still has problems. -- Baruch Even http://baruch.ev-en.org/
how to really deal with figures?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am having real problems with integrating figures into LyX documents. If I include them as .eps files, then for instance "View -> PDF (pdflatex)" does not work. If I leave the .eps extension away, then the figures are not rendered correctly in the LyX GUI, and the "View -> DVI" causes Latex to hang in the background for way too long and eventually aborts with >50 error boxes, however, the "View -> PDF" obviously works this way. (I am using xfig to create the figures and then fig2dev commandlines to generate .eps and .pdf out of the .fig files) So here my questions: o What is the recommended package to create figures (boxes, circles, lines) wih LyX? o Is it possible to setup a document such that all of the following works?: - figures render and scale correctly in the LyX GUI - 'View -> DVI' works correctly - 'View -> PS' works correctly - 'View -> PDF (pdflatex)' works correctly PS: I am using LyX 1.1.6 but the same problems were already there in previous versions, in fact I have upgraded to 1.1.6 hoping that the problems may have been fixed. - -- Friedemann Baitinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://baiti.net/fb/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6fxJb8ZparKdkcvIRAocYAJ9sltgYOuzWbtbHf3ju9GR48rqr0QCgi1f8 iuznXzJIGc7/HrkIaC7TcHA= =NDvs -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: how to really deal with figures?
* Friedemann Baitinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010206 00:33]: > > So here my questions: > > o What is the recommended package to create figures (boxes, circles, > lines) wih LyX? > > o Is it possible to setup a document such that all of the following > works?: > > - figures render and scale correctly in the LyX GUI > - 'View -> DVI' works correctly > - 'View -> PS' works correctly > - 'View -> PDF (pdflatex)' works correctly If you agree to lose rendering and scaling in the gui you can use the new external inset, it will accept your .fig file and will convert it by itself into PNG or EPS for inclusion into the document when you export or preview. > PS: I am using LyX 1.1.6 but the same problems were already there in > previous versions, in fact I have upgraded to 1.1.6 hoping that the > problems may have been fixed. I'm working on InsetGraphics, a rewrite of FigInset. It will probably be ready for 1.2.0 and will support the above requirements, it will take quite a few image formats (EPS, PNG, JPG, GIF) and convert them as needed for inclusion into the document. The problem is actually with the underlying LaTeX engine, the dvips engine accepts only EPS images, and pdflatex accepts PNG or PDF images but not EPS images. Essentially, LyX will need to convert the image to the required format. I already have the code needed to auto-convert the images, but the inline viewing code still has problems. -- Baruch Even http://baruch.ev-en.org/
