Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-29 Thread gordon_cooper 

 It makes no difference Wolfgang, I passed that hurdle several
years ago. It just takes longer to achieve things!

Gordon
Tauranga N.Z.




On 28/10/13 22:31, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

This might sound queer to most of you, but wait until you are 80!

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-29 Thread gordon_cooper 

 It makes no difference Wolfgang, I passed that hurdle several
years ago. It just takes longer to achieve things!

Gordon
Tauranga N.Z.




On 28/10/13 22:31, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

This might sound queer to most of you, but wait until you are 80!

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-29 Thread gordon_cooper 

 It makes no difference Wolfgang, I passed that hurdle several
years ago. It just takes longer to achieve things!

Gordon
Tauranga N.Z.




On 28/10/13 22:31, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

This might sound queer to most of you, but wait until you are 80!

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-28 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 
On Sunday 27 October 2013 20:27:48 Philipp Gröne wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I've been not at my computer since Wednesday evening, and read your
 mails in a time-reversed order. After my first shock I very glad that
 you managed to fix it, I would have had a quite guilty conscience if
 I'd managed to break your operating system remotely and then going of
 for a prolonged absence.

I am sorry, Philipp, it is all my fault, and I am extremely thankful for 
all the help I get on this list. In most cases it is due to my ignorance as 
far as linux is concerned (which does not mean I am better in other OSs, in 
fact I am and never had used any other OS except the Atari). 

I did learn the hard way to save my work frequently and do not loose much 
in this way even after unexpected crashes. And LyX is remarkable in saving 
the ~lyx files almost always. I even learned to run last week LinuxMint in 
addition to my Debian on the same PC, since Mint seems to be faster in 
providing new versions. This might sound queer to most of you, but wait 
until you are 80!

Wolfgang

 
 As far as I know the gnome-dependencies installed with Lyx stem from the
 recommended installation of evince, which is the standard-PDF-reader
 under gnome, therefore using gnome-dependencies.
 
 This can be avoided by using the -r suffix to apt-get install.
 
 I'm writing this response to the list because I've struggled with that
 myself - why the rec for evince in the Debian package?
 I really would prefer no recommendation for a PDF-viewer, assuming that
 every user who uses Lyx has the PDF-viewer of his choice already
 installed. (In my case, zathura - evince is lightweight indeed, even
 considering the gnome-dependencies, but zathura is even more
 lightweight.)
 
 Greetings!
 Ph.
 
 On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 18:05:07 +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann
 
 engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
  On Wednesday 23 October 2013 15:16:23 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  Hello, bad news
  
  
  
  I tried to update as suggested by Philipp using the synaptic command,
  
  but got after a long time of retrieving and installing packages many
  
  errors which I had collected in a reply mail (gnome -but I use kde
  ...).
  
  In trying to send it it turned out that the KMail was not working
  
  (could not find the mail provider). So I restarted the PC with the
  
  result that it freezes at the login Menu (user, password) and I can
  
  not move the mouse anymore, ctr alt del does not work. I could try to
  
  use a knoppix dvd for recovery, but do not know what to do. So may be
  
  I should ask somebody from the Linux User Group Tuebingen for help.
  
  I am writing this from my notebook.
  
  
  
  Wolfgang
  
  Sorry for this Mail. I have gone into the recovery mode and checked
  various things. Starting the PC again brought me back to x windows
  screen.
  Synaptics told me there are defect packages which were repaired.
  Afterward I was able to install the 2.0.6 lyx.
  
  
  I guess, what happens was that in
  sudo synaptic update
  I might not have waited long enough ...
  
  Anyway it is now working again and I can use now the lyx2.0.6.
  
  Thanks for the help and sorry for the noise.
  
  
  Wolfgang

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-28 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 
On Sunday 27 October 2013 20:27:48 Philipp Gröne wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I've been not at my computer since Wednesday evening, and read your
 mails in a time-reversed order. After my first shock I very glad that
 you managed to fix it, I would have had a quite guilty conscience if
 I'd managed to break your operating system remotely and then going of
 for a prolonged absence.

I am sorry, Philipp, it is all my fault, and I am extremely thankful for 
all the help I get on this list. In most cases it is due to my ignorance as 
far as linux is concerned (which does not mean I am better in other OSs, in 
fact I am and never had used any other OS except the Atari). 

I did learn the hard way to save my work frequently and do not loose much 
in this way even after unexpected crashes. And LyX is remarkable in saving 
the ~lyx files almost always. I even learned to run last week LinuxMint in 
addition to my Debian on the same PC, since Mint seems to be faster in 
providing new versions. This might sound queer to most of you, but wait 
until you are 80!

Wolfgang

 
 As far as I know the gnome-dependencies installed with Lyx stem from the
 recommended installation of evince, which is the standard-PDF-reader
 under gnome, therefore using gnome-dependencies.
 
 This can be avoided by using the -r suffix to apt-get install.
 
 I'm writing this response to the list because I've struggled with that
 myself - why the rec for evince in the Debian package?
 I really would prefer no recommendation for a PDF-viewer, assuming that
 every user who uses Lyx has the PDF-viewer of his choice already
 installed. (In my case, zathura - evince is lightweight indeed, even
 considering the gnome-dependencies, but zathura is even more
 lightweight.)
 
 Greetings!
 Ph.
 
 On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 18:05:07 +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann
 
 engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
  On Wednesday 23 October 2013 15:16:23 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
  Hello, bad news
  
  
  
  I tried to update as suggested by Philipp using the synaptic command,
  
  but got after a long time of retrieving and installing packages many
  
  errors which I had collected in a reply mail (gnome -but I use kde
  ...).
  
  In trying to send it it turned out that the KMail was not working
  
  (could not find the mail provider). So I restarted the PC with the
  
  result that it freezes at the login Menu (user, password) and I can
  
  not move the mouse anymore, ctr alt del does not work. I could try to
  
  use a knoppix dvd for recovery, but do not know what to do. So may be
  
  I should ask somebody from the Linux User Group Tuebingen for help.
  
  I am writing this from my notebook.
  
  
  
  Wolfgang
  
  Sorry for this Mail. I have gone into the recovery mode and checked
  various things. Starting the PC again brought me back to x windows
  screen.
  Synaptics told me there are defect packages which were repaired.
  Afterward I was able to install the 2.0.6 lyx.
  
  
  I guess, what happens was that in
  sudo synaptic update
  I might not have waited long enough ...
  
  Anyway it is now working again and I can use now the lyx2.0.6.
  
  Thanks for the help and sorry for the noise.
  
  
  Wolfgang

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-28 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 
On Sunday 27 October 2013 20:27:48 Philipp Gröne wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I've been not at my computer since Wednesday evening, and read your
> mails in a time-reversed order. After my first shock I very glad that
> you managed to fix it, I would have had a quite guilty conscience if
> I'd managed to break your operating system remotely and then going of
> for a prolonged absence.

I am sorry, Philipp, it is all my fault, and I am extremely thankful for 
all the help I get on this list. In most cases it is due to my ignorance as 
far as linux is concerned (which does not mean I am better in other OSs, in 
fact I am and never had used any other OS except the Atari). 

I did learn the hard way to save my work frequently and do not loose much 
in this way even after unexpected crashes. And LyX is remarkable in saving 
the ~lyx files almost always. I even learned to run last week LinuxMint in 
addition to my Debian on the same PC, since Mint seems to be faster in 
providing new versions. This might sound queer to most of you, but wait 
until you are 80!

Wolfgang

> 
> As far as I know the gnome-dependencies installed with Lyx stem from the
> recommended installation of evince, which is the standard-PDF-reader
> under gnome, therefore using gnome-dependencies.
> 
> This can be avoided by using the -r suffix to apt-get install.
> 
> I'm writing this response to the list because I've struggled with that
> myself - why the rec for evince in the Debian package?
> I really would prefer no recommendation for a PDF-viewer, assuming that
> every user who uses Lyx has the PDF-viewer of his choice already
> installed. (In my case, zathura - evince is lightweight indeed, even
> considering the gnome-dependencies, but zathura is even more
> lightweight.)
> 
> Greetings!
> Ph.
> 
> On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 18:05:07 +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann
> 
> <engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 23 October 2013 15:16:23 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> >> Hello, bad news
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I tried to update as suggested by Philipp using the synaptic command,
> >> 
> >> but got after a long time of retrieving and installing packages many
> >> 
> >> errors which I had collected in a reply mail (gnome -but I use kde
> >> ...).
> >> 
> >> In trying to send it it turned out that the KMail was not working
> >> 
> >> (could not find the mail provider). So I restarted the PC with the
> >> 
> >> result that it freezes at the login Menu (user, password) and I can
> >> 
> >> not move the mouse anymore, ctr alt del does not work. I could try to
> >> 
> >> use a knoppix dvd for recovery, but do not know what to do. So may be
> >> 
> >> I should ask somebody from the Linux User Group Tuebingen for help.
> >> 
> >> I am writing this from my notebook.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Wolfgang
> > 
> > Sorry for this Mail. I have gone into the recovery mode and checked
> > various things. Starting the PC again brought me back to x >windows
> > screen.
> > Synaptics told me there are defect packages which were repaired.
> > Afterward I was able to install the 2.0.6 lyx.
> > 
> > 
> > I guess, what happens was that in
> > sudo synaptic update
> > I might not have waited long enough ...
> > 
> > Anyway it is now working again and I can use now the lyx2.0.6.
> > 
> > Thanks for the help and sorry for the noise.
> > 
> > 
> > Wolfgang

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-27 Thread Philipp Gröne 

Hello!I've been not at my computer since Wednesday evening, and read your mails in a time-reversed order. After my first shock I very glad that you managed to fix it, I would have had a quite guilty conscience if I'd managed to break your operating system remotely and then going of for a prolonged absence.As far as I know the gnome-dependencies installed with Lyx stem from the recommended installation of evince, which is the standard-PDF-reader under gnome, therefore using gnome-dependencies.This can be avoided by using the -r suffix to apt-get install.I'm writing this response to the list because I've struggled with that myself - why the rec for evince in the Debian package?I really would prefer no recommendation for a PDF-viewer, assuming that every user who uses Lyx has the PDF-viewer of his choice already installed. (In my case, zathura - evince is lightweight indeed, even considering the gnome-dependencies, but zathura is even more lightweight.)Greetings!Ph.On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 18:05:07 +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 15:16:23 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 Hello, bad news
 
 I tried to update as suggested by Philipp using the synaptic command,
 but got after a long time of retrieving and installing packages many
 errors which I had collected in a reply mail (gnome -but I use kde ...).
 In trying to send it it turned out that the KMail was not working
 (could not find the mail provider). So I restarted the PC with the
 result that it freezes at the login Menu (user, password) and I can
 not move the mouse anymore, ctr alt del does not work. I could try to
 use a knoppix dvd for recovery, but do not know what to do. So may be
 I should ask somebody from the Linux User Group Tuebingen for help.
 I am writing this from my notebook.
 
 Wolfgang

Sorry for this Mail. I have gone into the recovery mode and checked various things. Starting the PC again brought me back to x windows screen. 
Synaptics told me there are defect packages which were repaired. Afterward I was able to install the 2.0.6 lyx.

I guess, what happens was that in 
sudo synaptic update 
I might not have waited long enough ...
Anyway it is now working again and I can use now the lyx2.0.6.
Thanks for the help and sorry for the noise.

Wolfgang

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-27 Thread Philipp Gröne 

Hello!I've been not at my computer since Wednesday evening, and read your mails in a time-reversed order. After my first shock I very glad that you managed to fix it, I would have had a quite guilty conscience if I'd managed to break your operating system remotely and then going of for a prolonged absence.As far as I know the gnome-dependencies installed with Lyx stem from the recommended installation of evince, which is the standard-PDF-reader under gnome, therefore using gnome-dependencies.This can be avoided by using the -r suffix to apt-get install.I'm writing this response to the list because I've struggled with that myself - why the rec for evince in the Debian package?I really would prefer no recommendation for a PDF-viewer, assuming that every user who uses Lyx has the PDF-viewer of his choice already installed. (In my case, zathura - evince is lightweight indeed, even considering the gnome-dependencies, but zathura is even more lightweight.)Greetings!Ph.On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 18:05:07 +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 15:16:23 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 Hello, bad news
 
 I tried to update as suggested by Philipp using the synaptic command,
 but got after a long time of retrieving and installing packages many
 errors which I had collected in a reply mail (gnome -but I use kde ...).
 In trying to send it it turned out that the KMail was not working
 (could not find the mail provider). So I restarted the PC with the
 result that it freezes at the login Menu (user, password) and I can
 not move the mouse anymore, ctr alt del does not work. I could try to
 use a knoppix dvd for recovery, but do not know what to do. So may be
 I should ask somebody from the Linux User Group Tuebingen for help.
 I am writing this from my notebook.
 
 Wolfgang

Sorry for this Mail. I have gone into the recovery mode and checked various things. Starting the PC again brought me back to x windows screen. 
Synaptics told me there are defect packages which were repaired. Afterward I was able to install the 2.0.6 lyx.

I guess, what happens was that in 
sudo synaptic update 
I might not have waited long enough ...
Anyway it is now working again and I can use now the lyx2.0.6.
Thanks for the help and sorry for the noise.

Wolfgang

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-27 Thread Philipp Gröne 

Hello!I've been not at my computer since Wednesday evening, and read your mails in a time-reversed order. After my first shock I very glad that you managed to fix it, I would have had a quite guilty conscience if I'd managed to break your operating system remotely and then going of for a prolonged absence.As far as I know the gnome-dependencies installed with Lyx stem from the recommended installation of evince, which is the standard-PDF-reader under gnome, therefore using gnome-dependencies.This can be avoided by using the -r suffix to apt-get install.I'm writing this response to the list because I've struggled with that myself - why the rec for evince in the Debian package?I really would prefer no recommendation for a PDF-viewer, assuming that every user who uses Lyx has the PDF-viewer of his choice already installed. (In my case, zathura - evince is lightweight indeed, even considering the gnome-dependencies, but zathura is even more lightweight.)Greetings!Ph.On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 18:05:07 +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann <engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de> wrote:
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 15:16:23 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> Hello, bad news
> 
> I tried to update as suggested by Philipp using the synaptic command,
> but got after a long time of retrieving and installing packages many
> errors which I had collected in a reply mail (gnome -but I use kde ...).
> In trying to send it it turned out that the KMail was not working
> (could not find the mail provider). So I restarted the PC with the
> result that it freezes at the login Menu (user, password) and I can
> not move the mouse anymore, ctr alt del does not work. I could try to
> use a knoppix dvd for recovery, but do not know what to do. So may be
> I should ask somebody from the Linux User Group Tuebingen for help.
> I am writing this from my notebook.
> 
> Wolfgang
 
Sorry for this Mail. I have gone into the recovery mode and checked various things. Starting the PC again brought me back to x windows screen. 
Synaptics told me there are defect packages which were repaired. Afterward I was able to install the 2.0.6 lyx.
 
I guess, what happens was that in 
sudo synaptic update 
I might not have waited long enough ...
Anyway it is now working again and I can use now the lyx2.0.6.
Thanks for the help and sorry for the noise.
 
Wolfgang

lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 
Hello,
I am still trying to install lyx2.0.6
I am on debian wheezy and use an amd64 PC

I am told in
http://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/lyx/download

Download-Seite für lyx_2.0.6-1+b1_amd64.deb für AMD64-
Rechner

to add in

/etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main 
which I did. 
My /etc/apt/sources.list is

deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/updates main non-free 
contrib
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main

Question 1: Is this correct or do I miss something?
Question 2: Why do I get this from synaptic:
Fehlschlag beim Holen von 
ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources  
Datei konnte nicht heruntergeladen werden; Server meldet: 
»/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources: No such file or directory 
Question 3: Why does synaptic not show the desired lyx version, but only 
2.0.3?

Wolfgang

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Philipp Gröne 

Hi there!Try thisdeb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-freedeb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-freedeb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-freedeb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-freedeb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-freedeb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-freedeb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main non-free contribin your /etc/apt/sources.list.This was generated by http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ , a pretty cool site which will generate you a /etc/apt/sources.list .Are you aware about the Debian release policy?Your are mixing two versions of Debian, stable (i.e. Wheezy) and unstable (i.e. Sid).The Packages in Wheezy won't get any updates except security fixes, while Sid contains packages which are developed continously - this means, more bugs, but also newer version numbers.I don't know how to do this in synaptic, but you need to specify the version APT should get a given package from. Else it will use the default which is wheezy(stable) in your case.So try the following commands:sudo synaptic updatesudo synaptic -t unstable install lyxHope this helped.Greetings!Ph.P.S.: Is there a reason why you use stable? I've found Debian testing (Jessie) stable enough for everything I want to do. (I've never run into a bug). Then you won't have the issue of outdated packages.On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:36:14 +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
Hello,
I am still trying to install lyx2.0.6
I am on debian wheezy and use an amd64 PC

I am told in
http://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/lyx/download

Download-Seite für lyx_2.0.6-1+b1_amd64.deb für AMD64-Rechner

to add in

/etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main 
which I did. 
My /etc/apt/sources.list is

deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/updates main non-free contrib
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main

Question 1: Is this correct or do I miss something?
Question 2: Why do I get this from synaptic:
Fehlschlag beim Holen von ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources  Datei konnte nicht heruntergeladen werden; Server meldet: »/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources: No such file or directory 
Question 3: Why does synaptic not show the desired lyx version, but only 2.0.3?

Wolfgang

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 10:57:52 Philipp Gröne wrote:

Thanks, Philipp

for your extensive explanations and proposals.
Interesting, this list:
 This was generated by http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ , a pretty cool site
 which will generate you a /etc/apt/sources.list .
However, I am ignorant as far as 
repository name, description, repository homepage, How to, PPGkeys is 
concerned
APT URL xxrepository.com %r main contrib
what would I use for repository?

Is the created sources.list of the site mentioned mailed to me?

For the time being I used your proposed
 sudo synaptic update
and wait until it is done before I come to 
 sudo synaptic -t unstable install lyx

Wolfgang

 Hi there!
 
 Try this
 
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
 
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib
 non-free
 
 deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
 
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main non-free contrib
 
 in your /etc/apt/sources.list.
 
 This was generated by http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ , a pretty cool site
 which will generate you a /etc/apt/sources.list .
 
 Are you aware about the Debian release policy?
###
yes
 
 Your are mixing two versions of Debian, stable (i.e. Wheezy) and
 unstable (i.e. Sid).
 The Packages in Wheezy won't get any updates except security fixes,
 while Sid contains packages which are developed continously - this
 means, more bugs, but also newer version numbers.
 
 I don't know how to do this in synaptic, but you need to specify the
 version APT should get a given package from. Else it will use the
 default which is wheezy(stable) in your case.
 
 So try the following commands:
 
 sudo synaptic update
 sudo synaptic -t unstable install lyx
 
 Hope this helped.
 
 Greetings!
 Ph.
 
 P.S.: Is there a reason why you use stable? I've found Debian testing
 (Jessie) stable enough for everything I want to do. (I've never run into
 a bug). Then you won't have the issue of outdated packages.
 
#
actually not. Just: Never change a running system. 
But I need lyx2.0.6 since I have documents made with it and it is not in 
stable.

lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 

Hello, bad news

I tried to update as suggested by Philipp using the synaptic command,  
but got after a long time of retrieving and installing packages many  
errors which I had collected in a reply mail (gnome -but I use kde ...).
In trying to send it it turned out that the KMail was not working  
(could not find the mail provider). So I restarted the PC with the  
result that it freezes at the login Menu (user, password) and I can  
not move the mouse anymore, ctr alt del does not work. I could try to  
use a knoppix dvd for recovery, but do not know what to do. So may be  
I should ask somebody from the Linux User Group Tuebingen for help.

I am writing this from my notebook.

Wolfgang

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 10:57:52 Philipp Gröne wrote:

Thanks, Philipp

for your extensive explanations and proposals.
Interesting, this list:
 This was generated by http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ , a pretty cool site
 which will generate you a /etc/apt/sources.list .
However, I am ignorant as far as 
repository name, description, repository homepage, How to, PPGkeys is 
concerned
APT URL xxrepository.com %r main contrib
what would I use for repository?

Is the created sources.list of the site mentioned mailed to me?

For the time being I used your proposed
 sudo synaptic update
and wait until it is done before I come to 
 sudo synaptic -t unstable install lyx

Wolfgang

 Hi there!
 
 Try this
 
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
 
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib
 non-free
 
 deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
 
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main non-free contrib
 
 in your /etc/apt/sources.list.
 
 This was generated by http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ , a pretty cool site
 which will generate you a /etc/apt/sources.list .
 
 Are you aware about the Debian release policy?
###
yes
 
 Your are mixing two versions of Debian, stable (i.e. Wheezy) and
 unstable (i.e. Sid).
 The Packages in Wheezy won't get any updates except security fixes,
 while Sid contains packages which are developed continously - this
 means, more bugs, but also newer version numbers.
 
 I don't know how to do this in synaptic, but you need to specify the
 version APT should get a given package from. Else it will use the
 default which is wheezy(stable) in your case.
 
 So try the following commands:
 
 sudo synaptic update
 sudo synaptic -t unstable install lyx
 
 Hope this helped.
 
 Greetings!
 Ph.
 
 P.S.: Is there a reason why you use stable? I've found Debian testing
 (Jessie) stable enough for everything I want to do. (I've never run into
 a bug). Then you won't have the issue of outdated packages.
 
#
actually not. Just: Never change a running system. 
But I need lyx2.0.6 since I have documents made with it and it is not in 
stable.

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 15:16:23 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 Hello, bad news
 
 I tried to update as suggested by Philipp using the synaptic command,
 but got after a long time of retrieving and installing packages many
 errors which I had collected in a reply mail (gnome -but I use kde ...).
 In trying to send it it turned out that the KMail was not working
 (could not find the mail provider). So I restarted the PC with the
 result that it freezes at the login Menu (user, password) and I can
 not move the mouse anymore, ctr alt del does not work. I could try to
 use a knoppix dvd for recovery, but do not know what to do. So may be
 I should ask somebody from the Linux User Group Tuebingen for help.
 I am writing this from my notebook.
 
 Wolfgang

Sorry for this Mail. I have gone into the recovery mode and checked various 
things. Starting the PC again brought me back to x windows screen. 
Synaptics told me there are defect packages which were repaired. Afterward 
I was able to install the 2.0.6 lyx.

I guess, what happens was that in 
sudo synaptic update 
I might not have waited long enough ...
Anyway it is now working again and I can use now the lyx2.0.6.
Thanks for the help and sorry for the noise.

Wolfgang

lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 
Hello,
I am still trying to install lyx2.0.6
I am on debian wheezy and use an amd64 PC

I am told in
http://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/lyx/download

Download-Seite für lyx_2.0.6-1+b1_amd64.deb für AMD64-
Rechner

to add in

/etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main 
which I did. 
My /etc/apt/sources.list is

deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/updates main non-free 
contrib
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main

Question 1: Is this correct or do I miss something?
Question 2: Why do I get this from synaptic:
Fehlschlag beim Holen von 
ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources  
Datei konnte nicht heruntergeladen werden; Server meldet: 
»/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources: No such file or directory 
Question 3: Why does synaptic not show the desired lyx version, but only 
2.0.3?

Wolfgang

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Philipp Gröne 

Hi there!Try thisdeb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-freedeb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-freedeb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-freedeb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-freedeb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-freedeb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-freedeb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main non-free contribin your /etc/apt/sources.list.This was generated by http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ , a pretty cool site which will generate you a /etc/apt/sources.list .Are you aware about the Debian release policy?Your are mixing two versions of Debian, stable (i.e. Wheezy) and unstable (i.e. Sid).The Packages in Wheezy won't get any updates except security fixes, while Sid contains packages which are developed continously - this means, more bugs, but also newer version numbers.I don't know how to do this in synaptic, but you need to specify the version APT should get a given package from. Else it will use the default which is wheezy(stable) in your case.So try the following commands:sudo synaptic updatesudo synaptic -t unstable install lyxHope this helped.Greetings!Ph.P.S.: Is there a reason why you use stable? I've found Debian testing (Jessie) stable enough for everything I want to do. (I've never run into a bug). Then you won't have the issue of outdated packages.On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:36:14 +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de wrote:
Hello,
I am still trying to install lyx2.0.6
I am on debian wheezy and use an amd64 PC

I am told in
http://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/lyx/download

Download-Seite für lyx_2.0.6-1+b1_amd64.deb für AMD64-Rechner

to add in

/etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main 
which I did. 
My /etc/apt/sources.list is

deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/updates main non-free contrib
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main

Question 1: Is this correct or do I miss something?
Question 2: Why do I get this from synaptic:
Fehlschlag beim Holen von ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources  Datei konnte nicht heruntergeladen werden; Server meldet: »/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources: No such file or directory 
Question 3: Why does synaptic not show the desired lyx version, but only 2.0.3?

Wolfgang

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 10:57:52 Philipp Gröne wrote:

Thanks, Philipp

for your extensive explanations and proposals.
Interesting, this list:
 This was generated by http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ , a pretty cool site
 which will generate you a /etc/apt/sources.list .
However, I am ignorant as far as 
repository name, description, repository homepage, How to, PPGkeys is 
concerned
APT URL xxrepository.com %r main contrib
what would I use for repository?

Is the created sources.list of the site mentioned mailed to me?

For the time being I used your proposed
 sudo synaptic update
and wait until it is done before I come to 
 sudo synaptic -t unstable install lyx

Wolfgang

 Hi there!
 
 Try this
 
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
 
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib
 non-free
 
 deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
 
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main non-free contrib
 
 in your /etc/apt/sources.list.
 
 This was generated by http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ , a pretty cool site
 which will generate you a /etc/apt/sources.list .
 
 Are you aware about the Debian release policy?
###
yes
 
 Your are mixing two versions of Debian, stable (i.e. Wheezy) and
 unstable (i.e. Sid).
 The Packages in Wheezy won't get any updates except security fixes,
 while Sid contains packages which are developed continously - this
 means, more bugs, but also newer version numbers.
 
 I don't know how to do this in synaptic, but you need to specify the
 version APT should get a given package from. Else it will use the
 default which is wheezy(stable) in your case.
 
 So try the following commands:
 
 sudo synaptic update
 sudo synaptic -t unstable install lyx
 
 Hope this helped.
 
 Greetings!
 Ph.
 
 P.S.: Is there a reason why you use stable? I've found Debian testing
 (Jessie) stable enough for everything I want to do. (I've never run into
 a bug). Then you won't have the issue of outdated packages.
 
#
actually not. Just: Never change a running system. 
But I need lyx2.0.6 since I have documents made with it and it is not in 
stable.

lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 

Hello, bad news

I tried to update as suggested by Philipp using the synaptic command,  
but got after a long time of retrieving and installing packages many  
errors which I had collected in a reply mail (gnome -but I use kde ...).
In trying to send it it turned out that the KMail was not working  
(could not find the mail provider). So I restarted the PC with the  
result that it freezes at the login Menu (user, password) and I can  
not move the mouse anymore, ctr alt del does not work. I could try to  
use a knoppix dvd for recovery, but do not know what to do. So may be  
I should ask somebody from the Linux User Group Tuebingen for help.

I am writing this from my notebook.

Wolfgang

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 10:57:52 Philipp Gröne wrote:

Thanks, Philipp

for your extensive explanations and proposals.
Interesting, this list:
 This was generated by http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ , a pretty cool site
 which will generate you a /etc/apt/sources.list .
However, I am ignorant as far as 
repository name, description, repository homepage, How to, PPGkeys is 
concerned
APT URL xxrepository.com %r main contrib
what would I use for repository?

Is the created sources.list of the site mentioned mailed to me?

For the time being I used your proposed
 sudo synaptic update
and wait until it is done before I come to 
 sudo synaptic -t unstable install lyx

Wolfgang

 Hi there!
 
 Try this
 
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
 
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib
 non-free
 
 deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
 
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main non-free contrib
 
 in your /etc/apt/sources.list.
 
 This was generated by http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ , a pretty cool site
 which will generate you a /etc/apt/sources.list .
 
 Are you aware about the Debian release policy?
###
yes
 
 Your are mixing two versions of Debian, stable (i.e. Wheezy) and
 unstable (i.e. Sid).
 The Packages in Wheezy won't get any updates except security fixes,
 while Sid contains packages which are developed continously - this
 means, more bugs, but also newer version numbers.
 
 I don't know how to do this in synaptic, but you need to specify the
 version APT should get a given package from. Else it will use the
 default which is wheezy(stable) in your case.
 
 So try the following commands:
 
 sudo synaptic update
 sudo synaptic -t unstable install lyx
 
 Hope this helped.
 
 Greetings!
 Ph.
 
 P.S.: Is there a reason why you use stable? I've found Debian testing
 (Jessie) stable enough for everything I want to do. (I've never run into
 a bug). Then you won't have the issue of outdated packages.
 
#
actually not. Just: Never change a running system. 
But I need lyx2.0.6 since I have documents made with it and it is not in 
stable.

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 15:16:23 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
 Hello, bad news
 
 I tried to update as suggested by Philipp using the synaptic command,
 but got after a long time of retrieving and installing packages many
 errors which I had collected in a reply mail (gnome -but I use kde ...).
 In trying to send it it turned out that the KMail was not working
 (could not find the mail provider). So I restarted the PC with the
 result that it freezes at the login Menu (user, password) and I can
 not move the mouse anymore, ctr alt del does not work. I could try to
 use a knoppix dvd for recovery, but do not know what to do. So may be
 I should ask somebody from the Linux User Group Tuebingen for help.
 I am writing this from my notebook.
 
 Wolfgang

Sorry for this Mail. I have gone into the recovery mode and checked various 
things. Starting the PC again brought me back to x windows screen. 
Synaptics told me there are defect packages which were repaired. Afterward 
I was able to install the 2.0.6 lyx.

I guess, what happens was that in 
sudo synaptic update 
I might not have waited long enough ...
Anyway it is now working again and I can use now the lyx2.0.6.
Thanks for the help and sorry for the noise.

Wolfgang

lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 
Hello,
I am still trying to install lyx2.0.6
I am on debian wheezy and use an amd64 PC

I am told in
http://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/lyx/download

Download-Seite für lyx_2.0.6-1+b1_amd64.deb für AMD64-
Rechner

to add in

/etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main 
which I did. 
My /etc/apt/sources.list is

deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/updates main non-free 
contrib
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main

Question 1: Is this correct or do I miss something?
Question 2: Why do I get this from synaptic:
Fehlschlag beim Holen von 
ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources  
Datei konnte nicht heruntergeladen werden; Server meldet: 
»/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources: No such file or directory 
Question 3: Why does synaptic not show the desired lyx version, but only 
2.0.3?

Wolfgang

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Philipp Gröne 

Hi there!Try this deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-freedeb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-freedeb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-freedeb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-freedeb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-freedeb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-freedeb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main non-free contribin your /etc/apt/sources.list. This was generated by http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ , a pretty cool site which will generate you a /etc/apt/sources.list .Are you aware about the Debian release policy?Your are mixing two versions of Debian, stable (i.e. Wheezy) and unstable (i.e. Sid).The Packages in Wheezy won't get any updates except security fixes, while Sid contains packages which are developed continously - this means, more bugs, but also newer version numbers.I don't know how to do this in synaptic, but you need to specify the version APT should get a given package from. Else it will use the default which is wheezy(stable) in your case.So try the following commands:sudo synaptic updatesudo synaptic -t unstable install lyxHope this helped.Greetings!Ph.P.S.: Is there a reason why you use stable? I've found Debian testing (Jessie) stable enough for everything I want to do. (I've never run into a bug). Then you won't have the issue of outdated packages.On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:36:14 +0200, Wolfgang Engelmann <engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de> wrote:
Hello,
I am still trying to install lyx2.0.6
I am on debian wheezy and use an amd64 PC
 
I am told in
http://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/lyx/download
 
Download-Seite für lyx_2.0.6-1+b1_amd64.deb für AMD64-Rechner
 
to add in
 
/etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main 
which I did. 
My /etc/apt/sources.list is
 
deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/updates main non-free contrib
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main
 
Question 1: Is this correct or do I miss something?
Question 2: Why do I get this from synaptic:
Fehlschlag beim Holen von ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources  Datei konnte nicht heruntergeladen werden; Server meldet: »/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources: No such file or directory 
Question 3: Why does synaptic not show the desired lyx version, but only 2.0.3?
 
Wolfgang
 

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 10:57:52 Philipp Gröne wrote:

Thanks, Philipp

for your extensive explanations and proposals.
Interesting, this list:
> This was generated by http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ , a pretty cool site
> which will generate you a /etc/apt/sources.list .
However, I am ignorant as far as 
repository name, description, repository homepage, How to, PPGkeys is 
concerned
APT URL xxrepository.com %r main contrib
what would I use for repository?

Is the created sources.list of the site mentioned mailed to me?

For the time being I used your proposed
> sudo synaptic update
and wait until it is done before I come to 
> sudo synaptic -t unstable install lyx

Wolfgang

> Hi there!
> 
> Try this
> 
> deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> 
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib
> non-free
> 
> deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
> 
> deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main non-free contrib
> 
> in your /etc/apt/sources.list.
> 
> This was generated by http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ , a pretty cool site
> which will generate you a /etc/apt/sources.list .
> 
> Are you aware about the Debian release policy?
###
yes
> 
> Your are mixing two versions of Debian, stable (i.e. Wheezy) and
> unstable (i.e. Sid).
> The Packages in Wheezy won't get any updates except security fixes,
> while Sid contains packages which are developed continously - this
> means, more bugs, but also newer version numbers.
> 
> I don't know how to do this in synaptic, but you need to specify the
> version APT should get a given package from. Else it will use the
> default which is wheezy(stable) in your case.
> 
> So try the following commands:
> 
> sudo synaptic update
> sudo synaptic -t unstable install lyx
> 
> Hope this helped.
> 
> Greetings!
> Ph.
> 
> P.S.: Is there a reason why you use stable? I've found Debian testing
> (Jessie) stable enough for everything I want to do. (I've never run into
> a bug). Then you won't have the issue of outdated packages.
> 
#
actually not. Just: Never change a running system. 
But I need lyx2.0.6 since I have documents made with it and it is not in 
stable.

lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 

Hello, bad news

I tried to update as suggested by Philipp using the synaptic command,  
but got after a long time of retrieving and installing packages many  
errors which I had collected in a reply mail (gnome -but I use kde ...).
In trying to send it it turned out that the KMail was not working  
(could not find the mail provider). So I restarted the PC with the  
result that it freezes at the login Menu (user, password) and I can  
not move the mouse anymore, ctr alt del does not work. I could try to  
use a knoppix dvd for recovery, but do not know what to do. So may be  
I should ask somebody from the Linux User Group Tuebingen for help.

I am writing this from my notebook.

Wolfgang

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 10:57:52 Philipp Gröne wrote:

Thanks, Philipp

for your extensive explanations and proposals.
Interesting, this list:
> This was generated by http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ , a pretty cool site
> which will generate you a /etc/apt/sources.list .
However, I am ignorant as far as 
repository name, description, repository homepage, How to, PPGkeys is 
concerned
APT URL xxrepository.com %r main contrib
what would I use for repository?

Is the created sources.list of the site mentioned mailed to me?

For the time being I used your proposed
> sudo synaptic update
and wait until it is done before I come to 
> sudo synaptic -t unstable install lyx

Wolfgang

> Hi there!
> 
> Try this
> 
> deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> 
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib
> non-free
> 
> deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
> 
> deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main non-free contrib
> 
> in your /etc/apt/sources.list.
> 
> This was generated by http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ , a pretty cool site
> which will generate you a /etc/apt/sources.list .
> 
> Are you aware about the Debian release policy?
###
yes
> 
> Your are mixing two versions of Debian, stable (i.e. Wheezy) and
> unstable (i.e. Sid).
> The Packages in Wheezy won't get any updates except security fixes,
> while Sid contains packages which are developed continously - this
> means, more bugs, but also newer version numbers.
> 
> I don't know how to do this in synaptic, but you need to specify the
> version APT should get a given package from. Else it will use the
> default which is wheezy(stable) in your case.
> 
> So try the following commands:
> 
> sudo synaptic update
> sudo synaptic -t unstable install lyx
> 
> Hope this helped.
> 
> Greetings!
> Ph.
> 
> P.S.: Is there a reason why you use stable? I've found Debian testing
> (Jessie) stable enough for everything I want to do. (I've never run into
> a bug). Then you won't have the issue of outdated packages.
> 
#
actually not. Just: Never change a running system. 
But I need lyx2.0.6 since I have documents made with it and it is not in 
stable.

Re: lyx2.0.6

2013-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann 
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 15:16:23 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> Hello, bad news
> 
> I tried to update as suggested by Philipp using the synaptic command,
> but got after a long time of retrieving and installing packages many
> errors which I had collected in a reply mail (gnome -but I use kde ...).
> In trying to send it it turned out that the KMail was not working
> (could not find the mail provider). So I restarted the PC with the
> result that it freezes at the login Menu (user, password) and I can
> not move the mouse anymore, ctr alt del does not work. I could try to
> use a knoppix dvd for recovery, but do not know what to do. So may be
> I should ask somebody from the Linux User Group Tuebingen for help.
> I am writing this from my notebook.
> 
> Wolfgang

Sorry for this Mail. I have gone into the recovery mode and checked various 
things. Starting the PC again brought me back to x windows screen. 
Synaptics told me there are defect packages which were repaired. Afterward 
I was able to install the 2.0.6 lyx.

I guess, what happens was that in 
sudo synaptic update 
I might not have waited long enough ...
Anyway it is now working again and I can use now the lyx2.0.6.
Thanks for the help and sorry for the noise.

Wolfgang