Re: Beamer/Lyx bullets

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

016-10-19 11:17 GMT+02:00 UD :

> Thanks a lot, Jurgen-- I was reluctant to get into defining new Beamer
> templates, but it looks as if that is what was needed.  I guess one has to
> become a more experienced Beamer user to venture into this kind of template
> creation.
>
Yes, it is definitely an advanced task.

It would be great if Lyx allowed you to do that from its settings menu--
> you had mentioned that it works in the article class, but I guess it would
> have to be extended to the presentation class.
>
It'll be doable for normal itemize labels, but rather hard to implement for
your use case, the toc, I fear.


> Anyway-- your modification did the trick, and I am grateful.
>

You're welcome.

Jürgen


> Yours,
>
> Ehud Kaplan
>
>
>
>
> On 10/18/2016 06:09 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
>
> 2016-10-18 16:46 GMT+02:00 UD :
>
>> I am trying to get a table of contents slide (this is a presentation
>> class) in which each level (section, subsection, subsubsection, etc.) has
>> its own bullet shape.  For instance: Sections will have a ball, subsectons
>> will have a triangle, subsubsection an asterisks, etc.
>> So far, nothing that I had tried did it.
>>
>
> How about the attached?
>
> Jürgen
>
>
>> Ehud Kaplan
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Beamer/Lyx bullets

[UD]

  
  
Thanks a lot, Jurgen-- I was reluctant to get into defining new
  Beamer templates, but it looks as if that is what was needed.  I
  guess one has to become a more experienced Beamer user to venture
  into this kind of template creation.  It would be great if Lyx
  allowed you to do that from its settings menu-- you had mentioned
  that it works in the article class, but I guess it would have to
  be extended to the presentation class. 
Anyway-- your modification did the trick, and I am grateful.
Yours,
Ehud Kaplan




On 10/18/2016 06:09 PM, Jürgen
  Spitzmüller wrote:


  

  2016-10-18 16:46 GMT+02:00 UD :

   I am trying
to get a table of contents slide (this is a presentation
class) in which each level (section, subsection,
subsubsection, etc.) has its own bullet shape.  For
instance: Sections will have a ball, subsectons will
have a triangle, subsubsection an asterisks, etc.   
So far, nothing that I had tried did it.
  


  How about the attached?

  
  Jürgen
   

   Ehud Kaplan


   
  

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Re: Beamer/Lyx bullets

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2016-10-18 16:46 GMT+02:00 UD :

> I am trying to get a table of contents slide (this is a presentation
> class) in which each level (section, subsection, subsubsection, etc.) has
> its own bullet shape.  For instance: Sections will have a ball, subsectons
> will have a triangle, subsubsection an asterisks, etc.
> So far, nothing that I had tried did it.
>

How about the attached?

Jürgen


> Ehud Kaplan
>
> --
>
>


Charles-University-November-2016-Beamer.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Beamer/Lyx bullets

[UD]

  
  
I am trying to get a table of contents slide (this is a presentation
class) in which each level (section, subsection, subsubsection,
etc.) has its own bullet shape.  For instance: Sections will have a
ball, subsectons will have a triangle, subsubsection an asterisks,
etc.   
So far, nothing that I had tried did it.
Ehud Kaplan 

On 10/17/2016 12:57 PM, Jürgen
  Spitzmüller wrote:


  Am Montag, den 17.10.2016, 12:16 +0200 schrieb UD:

  
As you can see from the attached files, this too fails to produce
what I 
wanted, which is described completely in the previous postings.

  
  
The settings work exactly as advertised.

Please describe more precisely what you are actually trying to achieve.

Jürgen


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Re: Beamer/Lyx bullets

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Montag, den 17.10.2016, 12:16 +0200 schrieb UD:
> As you can see from the attached files, this too fails to produce
> what I 
> wanted, which is described completely in the previous postings.

The settings work exactly as advertised.

Please describe more precisely what you are actually trying to achieve.

Jürgen

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Re: Beamer/Lyx bullets

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Montag, den 17.10.2016, 03:27 +0200 schrieb UD:
> I am not using itemize subitem explicitly
> anywhere 
> here-- I am creating a table of contents with section, subsection, 
> subsubsection-- Lyx is dong the rest.  

It would be easier to help you if you would give such important
information right from the beginning (or even better, provide a minimal
example file). The toc is not an itemize list.

Try
\setbeamertemplate{section in toc}[circle]
\setbeamertemplate{subsection in toc}[ball]

If this does not what you want, please provide a minimal example lyx
file.

Jürgen

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Re: Beamer/Lyx bullets

[UD]

Hi Jurgen,

I tried the ones that failed AFTER trying the ones you suggested, but 
all failed. I have put the statement in the Latex preamble under 
Document/settings.  I am not using itemize subitem explicitly anywhere 
here-- I am creating a table of contents with section, subsection, 
subsubsection-- Lyx is dong the rest.  I know it should be doable, since 
I have seen presentations with the correct appearance, but I do not have 
the Lyx/Latex source for those.


Thanks for your help,

Ehud Kaplan



On 10/16/2016 07:11 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Am Sonntag, den 16.10.2016, 18:52 +0200 schrieb UD:

As mentioned in my original post, I want the bullets for the
section,
subsection and subsubsections to be all different from each other
(each
level should have its own bullet shape in the table of contents).  I
tried to put in the Latex Preamble:


\setbeamertemplate{section subsection}[triangle]

or


\setbeamertemplate{section subsection}[circle triangle]

and

\setbeamertemplate{subsection}[triangle]

but evidently this syntax is wrong, since it did not work.

Yes it is wrong. As I wrote in my first reply, the templates are called
"itemize item", "itemize subitem" and "itemize subsubitem" (not
"section subsection"). So:

\setbeamertemplate{itemize item}[triangle]

\setbeamertemplate{itemize subitem}[circle triangle]

etc. should do.

Jürgen


--
Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.
Jules and Doris Stein Research to Prevent Blindness Professor
Director, Center of Excellence for Computational & System neuroscience,
The Friedman Brain Institute, ISMMS
Director, The laboratory of Visual & Computational Neuroscience
Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical & Structural Biology
The Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai
One Gustave Levy Place
New York, NY, 10029
USA

Re: Beamer/Lyx bullets

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Sonntag, den 16.10.2016, 18:52 +0200 schrieb UD:
> As mentioned in my original post, I want the bullets for the
> section, 
> subsection and subsubsections to be all different from each other
> (each 
> level should have its own bullet shape in the table of contents).  I 
> tried to put in the Latex Preamble:
> 
> 
> \setbeamertemplate{section subsection}[triangle]
> 
> or
> 
> 
> \setbeamertemplate{section subsection}[circle triangle]
> 
> and
> 
> \setbeamertemplate{subsection}[triangle]
> 
> but evidently this syntax is wrong, since it did not work.

Yes it is wrong. As I wrote in my first reply, the templates are called
"itemize item", "itemize subitem" and "itemize subsubitem" (not
"section subsection"). So:

\setbeamertemplate{itemize item}[triangle]

\setbeamertemplate{itemize subitem}[circle triangle]

etc. should do.

Jürgen


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Re: Beamer/Lyx bullets

[UD]

As mentioned in my original post, I want the bullets for the section, 
subsection and subsubsections to be all different from each other (each 
level should have its own bullet shape in the table of contents).  I 
tried to put in the Latex Preamble:



\setbeamertemplate{section subsection}[triangle]

or


\setbeamertemplate{section subsection}[circle triangle]

and

\setbeamertemplate{subsection}[triangle]

but evidently this syntax is wrong, since it did not work.


Thanks for the explanation about the Lyx behavior.

Yours,

Ehud


On 10/16/2016 06:38 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Am Sonntag, den 16.10.2016, 18:34 +0200 schrieb UD:

Hi Jurgen,

Thanks for the suggestion.  I tried that, and several variants of
it,
following the examples in the manual, but they all failed.

What exactly did you do, and what do you want to achieve?


I wondered why Lyx seems to offer the facility to do that from its
menu
(Document/Settings/Bullets), but fails to do so.   What am I missing?

These settings are simply not compatible with beamer's interface, which
is very much specific. They should probably be greyed out (but then,
they work with beamer-article).

Jürgen


Thanks,

Ehud Kaplan
  


--
Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.
Jules and Doris Stein Research to Prevent Blindness Professor
Director, Center of Excellence for Computational & System neuroscience,
The Friedman Brain Institute, ISMMS
Director, The laboratory of Visual & Computational Neuroscience
Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical & Structural Biology
The Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai
One Gustave Levy Place
New York, NY, 10029
USA

Re: Beamer/Lyx bullets

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Sonntag, den 16.10.2016, 18:34 +0200 schrieb UD:
> Hi Jurgen,
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion.  I tried that, and several variants of
> it, 
> following the examples in the manual, but they all failed.

What exactly did you do, and what do you want to achieve?

> 
> I wondered why Lyx seems to offer the facility to do that from its
> menu 
> (Document/Settings/Bullets), but fails to do so.   What am I missing?

These settings are simply not compatible with beamer's interface, which
is very much specific. They should probably be greyed out (but then,
they work with beamer-article).

Jürgen

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ehud Kaplan
> 

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Re: Beamer/Lyx bullets

[UD]

Hi Jurgen,

Thanks for the suggestion.  I tried that, and several variants of it, 
following the examples in the manual, but they all failed.


I wondered why Lyx seems to offer the facility to do that from its menu 
(Document/Settings/Bullets), but fails to do so.   What am I missing?


Thanks,

Ehud Kaplan



On 10/15/2016 09:06 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Am Samstag, den 15.10.2016, 07:35 +0200 schrieb UD:

I am using Lyx (2.2.1) to create a presentation with the Copenhagen
theme.  The bullets appear identical at all levels, and when I change
them using the Document/Settings/Latex Preamble/Bullets dialog, I see
no change in the appearance of the bullets at the various levels
(Section, subsection, etc.).  I would like the second level bullets
to appear differently than the top level, but I seem unable to do
that.  I tried it also with the Berkeley theme, with the same
disappointing results.
Can anyone help?

You have to fiddle with the so-called beamer templates. E.g.

\setbeamertemplate{itemize subitem}[triangle]

or

\setbeamertemplate{itemize subitem}{--}

See the beamer manual, sec. 12.1, for details.

Jürgen


Thanks,


--
Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.
Jules and Doris Stein Research to Prevent Blindness Professor
Director, Center of Excellence for Computational & System neuroscience,
The Friedman Brain Institute, ISMMS
Director, The laboratory of Visual & Computational Neuroscience
Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical & Structural Biology
The Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai
One Gustave Levy Place
New York, NY, 10029
USA

Re: Beamer/Lyx bullets

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Samstag, den 15.10.2016, 07:35 +0200 schrieb UD:
> I am using Lyx (2.2.1) to create a presentation with the Copenhagen
> theme.  The bullets appear identical at all levels, and when I change
> them using the Document/Settings/Latex Preamble/Bullets dialog, I see
> no change in the appearance of the bullets at the various levels
> (Section, subsection, etc.).  I would like the second level bullets
> to appear differently than the top level, but I seem unable to do
> that.  I tried it also with the Berkeley theme, with the same
> disappointing results. 
> Can anyone help?

You have to fiddle with the so-called beamer templates. E.g.

\setbeamertemplate{itemize subitem}[triangle]

or

\setbeamertemplate{itemize subitem}{--}

See the beamer manual, sec. 12.1, for details.

Jürgen

> Thanks,

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Beamer/Lyx bullets

[UD]

  
  
I am using Lyx (2.2.1) to create a presentation with the Copenhagen
theme.  The bullets appear identical at all levels, and when I
change them using the Document/Settings/Latex Preamble/Bullets
dialog, I see no change in the appearance of the bullets at the
various levels (Section, subsection, etc.).  I would like the second
level bullets to appear differently than the top level, but I seem
unable to do that.  I tried it also with the Berkeley theme, with
the same disappointing results. 
Can anyone help?
Thanks,


-- 
Ehud Kaplan,