Re: Character spacing in Lyx

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-02-01, Thomas Hedden wrote:
 I am using Lyx 1.6.5 on Linux and want to apply, to some text, a character
 attribute that is variously referred to as character spacing,
 intercharacter spacing, inter-character spacing, or merely spacing,
 and possibly other names as well. When used on pairs of characters,
 it is also referred to as kerning. This attribute is widely used in
 typography,

The  s p a c i n g  you look after is most probable the highlight
method while kerning is most often used for a different feature
(making, e.g., AV coming somewhat together).

My dictionary says:  gesperrt; gesperrt gedruckt :: spaced out.

 A few cryptic posts I have read refer to a package called soul, but it
 does not come up when I query for lyx in the package manager
 (using Fedora 11). 

soul is a LaTeX package that supports this. Spacing is, however, not
directly supported by LyX. You will have to read its documentation and
use ERT (raw latex code) in your document.

The natural way for LyX support would be to write a module (modeled
after semantic.module) and post it to wiki.lyx.org.

Günter

Re: Character spacing in Lyx

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-02-01, Thomas Hedden wrote:
 I am using Lyx 1.6.5 on Linux and want to apply, to some text, a character
 attribute that is variously referred to as character spacing,
 intercharacter spacing, inter-character spacing, or merely spacing,
 and possibly other names as well. When used on pairs of characters,
 it is also referred to as kerning. This attribute is widely used in
 typography,

The  s p a c i n g  you look after is most probable the highlight
method while kerning is most often used for a different feature
(making, e.g., AV coming somewhat together).

My dictionary says:  gesperrt; gesperrt gedruckt :: spaced out.

 A few cryptic posts I have read refer to a package called soul, but it
 does not come up when I query for lyx in the package manager
 (using Fedora 11). 

soul is a LaTeX package that supports this. Spacing is, however, not
directly supported by LyX. You will have to read its documentation and
use ERT (raw latex code) in your document.

The natural way for LyX support would be to write a module (modeled
after semantic.module) and post it to wiki.lyx.org.

Günter

Re: Character spacing in Lyx

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-02-01, Thomas Hedden wrote:
> I am using Lyx 1.6.5 on Linux and want to apply, to some text, a character
> attribute that is variously referred to as "character spacing",
> "intercharacter spacing", "inter-character spacing", or merely "spacing",
> and possibly other names as well. When used on pairs of characters,
> it is also referred to as "kerning". This attribute is widely used in
> typography,

The  s p a c i n g  you look after is most probable the "highlight
method" while kerning is most often used for a different feature
(making, e.g., AV coming somewhat together).

My dictionary says:  gesperrt; gesperrt gedruckt :: spaced out.

> A few cryptic posts I have read refer to a package called "soul", but it
> does not come up when I query for "lyx" in the package manager
> (using Fedora 11). 

soul is a LaTeX package that supports this. Spacing is, however, not
directly supported by LyX. You will have to read its documentation and
use ERT (raw latex code) in your document.

The "natural" way for LyX support would be to write a module (modeled
after semantic.module) and post it to wiki.lyx.org.

Günter

Character spacing in Lyx

[Thomas Hedden]

I am using Lyx 1.6.5 on Linux and want to apply, to some text, a character
attribute that is variously referred to as character spacing,
intercharacter spacing, inter-character spacing, or merely spacing,
and possibly other names as well. When used on pairs of characters,
it is also referred to as kerning. This attribute is widely used in
typography,
and is available in both Microsoft Word and in OpenOffice.org Writer.
When applied to some text, for example test text, it could spread the
text out like this t e s t   t e x t. Of course this effect can be imitated
as I did here, by inserting spaces between the letters. But doing this
changes the text. That is, instead of test text, it would then become
t[space]e[space]s[space]t[space][space][space]t[space]e[space]x[space]t.
I find this unacceptable. I have searched in the user interface and the
manual, and cannot find any information about this.
A few cryptic posts I have read refer to a package called soul, but it
does not come up when I query for lyx in the package manager
(using Fedora 11). I have also heard suggestions about writing a Latex
script or something like that.
Does anyone know whether this feature is supported and how to apply
this attribute to text?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Tom

Re: Character spacing in Lyx

[stephen's mailinglist account]

On 1 February 2010 17:37, Thomas Hedden tho...@hedden.org wrote:
 I am using Lyx 1.6.5 on Linux and want to apply, to some text, a character
 attribute that is variously referred to as character spacing,
 intercharacter spacing, inter-character spacing, or merely spacing,
 and possibly other names as well. When used on pairs of characters,
 it is also referred to as kerning. This attribute is widely used in
 typography,
 and is available in both Microsoft Word and in OpenOffice.org Writer.
 When applied to some text, for example test text, it could spread the
 text out like this t e s t   t e x t. Of course this effect can be imitated
 as I did here, by inserting spaces between the letters. But doing this
 changes the text. That is, instead of test text, it would then become
 t[space]e[space]s[space]t[space][space][space]t[space]e[space]x[space]t.
 I find this unacceptable. I have searched in the user interface and the
 manual, and cannot find any information about this.
 A few cryptic posts I have read refer to a package called soul, but it
 does not come up when I query for lyx in the package manager
 (using Fedora 11). I have also heard suggestions about writing a Latex
 script or something like that.
 Does anyone know whether this feature is supported and how to apply
 this attribute to text?
 Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
 Tom

My first instinct is to ask why, since the underlying typesetting
engine kerns automatically? To quote one text based on the kerning
pairs defined in the font metrics file

Presumably you are trying to alter what LaTeX does by default.  You
could apparently alter these kerning pairs if that is what you want to
do for the whole document.  For odd cases you can use some ERT
(\kern+1pt) between letters - substitute unit as appropriate.

Otherwise look up documentation for LaTeX packages on CTAN (for
example soul: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/soul/
)


-- 
Stephen

Character spacing in Lyx

[Thomas Hedden]

I am using Lyx 1.6.5 on Linux and want to apply, to some text, a character
attribute that is variously referred to as character spacing,
intercharacter spacing, inter-character spacing, or merely spacing,
and possibly other names as well. When used on pairs of characters,
it is also referred to as kerning. This attribute is widely used in
typography,
and is available in both Microsoft Word and in OpenOffice.org Writer.
When applied to some text, for example test text, it could spread the
text out like this t e s t   t e x t. Of course this effect can be imitated
as I did here, by inserting spaces between the letters. But doing this
changes the text. That is, instead of test text, it would then become
t[space]e[space]s[space]t[space][space][space]t[space]e[space]x[space]t.
I find this unacceptable. I have searched in the user interface and the
manual, and cannot find any information about this.
A few cryptic posts I have read refer to a package called soul, but it
does not come up when I query for lyx in the package manager
(using Fedora 11). I have also heard suggestions about writing a Latex
script or something like that.
Does anyone know whether this feature is supported and how to apply
this attribute to text?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Tom

Re: Character spacing in Lyx

[stephen's mailinglist account]

On 1 February 2010 17:37, Thomas Hedden tho...@hedden.org wrote:
 I am using Lyx 1.6.5 on Linux and want to apply, to some text, a character
 attribute that is variously referred to as character spacing,
 intercharacter spacing, inter-character spacing, or merely spacing,
 and possibly other names as well. When used on pairs of characters,
 it is also referred to as kerning. This attribute is widely used in
 typography,
 and is available in both Microsoft Word and in OpenOffice.org Writer.
 When applied to some text, for example test text, it could spread the
 text out like this t e s t   t e x t. Of course this effect can be imitated
 as I did here, by inserting spaces between the letters. But doing this
 changes the text. That is, instead of test text, it would then become
 t[space]e[space]s[space]t[space][space][space]t[space]e[space]x[space]t.
 I find this unacceptable. I have searched in the user interface and the
 manual, and cannot find any information about this.
 A few cryptic posts I have read refer to a package called soul, but it
 does not come up when I query for lyx in the package manager
 (using Fedora 11). I have also heard suggestions about writing a Latex
 script or something like that.
 Does anyone know whether this feature is supported and how to apply
 this attribute to text?
 Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
 Tom

My first instinct is to ask why, since the underlying typesetting
engine kerns automatically? To quote one text based on the kerning
pairs defined in the font metrics file

Presumably you are trying to alter what LaTeX does by default.  You
could apparently alter these kerning pairs if that is what you want to
do for the whole document.  For odd cases you can use some ERT
(\kern+1pt) between letters - substitute unit as appropriate.

Otherwise look up documentation for LaTeX packages on CTAN (for
example soul: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/soul/
)


-- 
Stephen

Character spacing in Lyx

[Thomas Hedden]

I am using Lyx 1.6.5 on Linux and want to apply, to some text, a character
attribute that is variously referred to as "character spacing",
"intercharacter spacing", "inter-character spacing", or merely "spacing",
and possibly other names as well. When used on pairs of characters,
it is also referred to as "kerning". This attribute is widely used in
typography,
and is available in both Microsoft Word and in OpenOffice.org Writer.
When applied to some text, for example "test text", it could spread the
text out like this "t e s t   t e x t". Of course this effect can be imitated
as I did here, by inserting spaces between the letters. But doing this
changes the text. That is, instead of "test text", it would then become
"t[space]e[space]s[space]t[space][space][space]t[space]e[space]x[space]t".
I find this unacceptable. I have searched in the user interface and the
manual, and cannot find any information about this.
A few cryptic posts I have read refer to a package called "soul", but it
does not come up when I query for "lyx" in the package manager
(using Fedora 11). I have also heard suggestions about writing a Latex
script or something like that.
Does anyone know whether this feature is supported and how to apply
this attribute to text?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Tom

Re: Character spacing in Lyx

[stephen's mailinglist account]

On 1 February 2010 17:37, Thomas Hedden  wrote:
> I am using Lyx 1.6.5 on Linux and want to apply, to some text, a character
> attribute that is variously referred to as "character spacing",
> "intercharacter spacing", "inter-character spacing", or merely "spacing",
> and possibly other names as well. When used on pairs of characters,
> it is also referred to as "kerning". This attribute is widely used in
> typography,
> and is available in both Microsoft Word and in OpenOffice.org Writer.
> When applied to some text, for example "test text", it could spread the
> text out like this "t e s t   t e x t". Of course this effect can be imitated
> as I did here, by inserting spaces between the letters. But doing this
> changes the text. That is, instead of "test text", it would then become
> "t[space]e[space]s[space]t[space][space][space]t[space]e[space]x[space]t".
> I find this unacceptable. I have searched in the user interface and the
> manual, and cannot find any information about this.
> A few cryptic posts I have read refer to a package called "soul", but it
> does not come up when I query for "lyx" in the package manager
> (using Fedora 11). I have also heard suggestions about writing a Latex
> script or something like that.
> Does anyone know whether this feature is supported and how to apply
> this attribute to text?
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> Tom
>
My first instinct is to ask why, since the underlying typesetting
engine kerns automatically? To quote one text "based on the kerning
pairs defined in the font metrics file"

Presumably you are trying to alter what LaTeX does by default.  You
could apparently alter these kerning pairs if that is what you want to
do for the whole document.  For odd cases you can use some ERT
(\kern+1pt) between letters - substitute unit as appropriate.

Otherwise look up documentation for LaTeX packages on CTAN (for
example soul: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/soul/
)


-- 
Stephen