Re: Conversion to doc via pandoc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19/04/12 13:29, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Rainer M Krug wrote: >> $ xhtml2odt -i AS_BC_manuscrip.xhtml -o AS_BC_manuscrip.odt Tidy could not >> clean up the >> document, aborting. Conversion failed. $ >> >> So it is not as robust as pandoc - at this point vote for pandoc. Tests will >> be ongoing. > > Point for sure, but most important is how good are these guys at preserving > structure, > formats, bibliography, foot/margin notes, math of _correct_ xhtml file... > > If you have some time to make more detailed comparison of nowadays tools > ->odt/doc transition > for LyX document (having main features cited above) I'm sure many people > around would be happy > to read the results (perhaps wiki page would be appropriate). Would be very useful - but at the moment absolutely no time. I just made the other comparison, as I was looking for a useful converter and I found pandoc wich is working very nicely with the document. But I will put it into my TODO list. Cheers, Rainer > > Pavel - -- Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany) Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology Stellenbosch University South Africa Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44 Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98 Fax : +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44 Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44 email: rai...@krugs.de Skype: RMkrug -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+P+0UACgkQoYgNqgF2egoYqgCdF4432l7EBARf9EeCmQ0Tk/ts XzQAn2xbKuE9RVzmFrN9VEzjhX1uv1nQ =7wxa -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Conversion to doc via pandoc
Rainer M Krug wrote: > $ xhtml2odt -i AS_BC_manuscrip.xhtml -o AS_BC_manuscrip.odt > Tidy could not clean up the document, aborting. > Conversion failed. > $ > > So it is not as robust as pandoc - at this point vote for pandoc. Tests will > be ongoing. Point for sure, but most important is how good are these guys at preserving structure, formats, bibliography, foot/margin notes, math of _correct_ xhtml file... If you have some time to make more detailed comparison of nowadays tools ->odt/doc transition for LyX document (having main features cited above) I'm sure many people around would be happy to read the results (perhaps wiki page would be appropriate). Pavel
Re: Conversion to doc via pandoc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17/04/12 17:15, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Rainer M Krug wrote: >> Well - LibreOffice gives an error when trying to open the xhtml file, and I >> can't open it in >> my browser either (seems to be corrupt for this document?). Another >> document, produces an >> empty output when opening the xhml in LibreOffice. > > From what I know and tried on OpenOffice xhtml import never really worked and > it seems no > better with OpenOffice: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36977 > > Interesting comparison would be between pandoc and http://xhtml2odt.org/ if > someone wants to > take the step. Try on the document which produces a non-clean xhtml: $ xhtml2odt -i AS_BC_manuscrip.xhtml -o AS_BC_manuscrip.odt Tidy could not clean up the document, aborting. Conversion failed. $ So it is not as robust as pandoc - at this point vote for pandoc. Tests will be ongoing. Rainer > >>> There's no reason we couldn't add this as a converter. File a bug to remind >>> me if you >>> like. >>> >> >> I t'll add it top #6042 as Liviu pointed out. >> >> Would be great if pandoc converter could be added, as it seems to be quite >> robust in handling >> even corrupt xhtml files.o > > We already produced patch, but nobody wanted to test them (hint hint). > > Pavel - -- Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany) Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology Stellenbosch University South Africa Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44 Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98 Fax : +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44 Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44 email: rai...@krugs.de Skype: RMkrug -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+OZ8sACgkQoYgNqgF2egqx5wCeI3ZMG7krAAjz4+jgVj1Sa5yl MgYAnR6LmTVUBMcFu09XM6Nlrfn66g/u =goAW -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Conversion to doc via pandoc
Rainer M Krug wrote: > Well - LibreOffice gives an error when trying to open the xhtml file, and I > can't open it in my > browser either (seems to be corrupt for this document?). Another document, > produces an empty > output when opening the xhml in LibreOffice. >From what I know and tried on OpenOffice xhtml import never really worked and >it seems no better with OpenOffice: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36977 Interesting comparison would be between pandoc and http://xhtml2odt.org/ if someone wants to take the step. > > There's no reason we couldn't add this as a converter. File a bug to remind > > me if you like. > > > > I t'll add it top #6042 as Liviu pointed out. > > Would be great if pandoc converter could be added, as it seems to be quite > robust in handling even > corrupt xhtml files.o We already produced patch, but nobody wanted to test them (hint hint). Pavel
Re: Conversion to doc via pandoc
On 04/17/2012 03:04 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16/04/12 22:42, Richard Heck wrote: On 04/16/2012 09:07 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I just discovered pandoc, and I use it to convert to odt format (and then in OpenOffice to doc). The conversion goes LyX -> LyXHTML -> odt I defined the following format: \format "odt lo" "odt" "Libreoffice writer" "" "libreoffice" "libreoffice" "document,menu=export" and the following converter: \converter "xhtml" "odt lo" "pandoc -o $$o $$i" "" How much better is this than simply exporting LyXHTML and then opening the resulting file in LibreOffice? Well - LibreOffice gives an error when trying to open the xhtml file, and I can't open it in my browser either (seems to be corrupt for this document?). Another document, produces an empty output when opening the xhml in LibreOffice. There are definitely still bugs in the exporter, especially with more complicated documents. I think longer term maybe HTML5 would be a better target, as it's more robust. Richard
Re: Conversion to doc via pandoc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16/04/12 22:53, Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Richard Heck wrote: >> There's no reason we couldn't add this as a converter. File a bug to remind >> me if you like. >> > I guess #6042 [1] serves for this purpose. > > Liviu > > [1] http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6042 Thanks - aded to the ticket. Rainer - -- Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany) Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology Stellenbosch University South Africa Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44 Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98 Fax : +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44 Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44 email: rai...@krugs.de Skype: RMkrug -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+NGJYACgkQoYgNqgF2egqlTgCfQDkVbdIo4B0QoINjaD+gjRTK YM4AnjdM4gGmJYMnyAD/TwBsDhblBHBN =6ufA -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Conversion to doc via pandoc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16/04/12 22:42, Richard Heck wrote: > On 04/16/2012 09:07 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi >> >> I just discovered pandoc, and I use it to convert to odt format (and then in >> OpenOffice to >> doc). >> >> The conversion goes LyX -> LyXHTML -> odt >> >> I defined the following format: >> >> \format "odt lo" "odt" "Libreoffice writer" "" "libreoffice" "libreoffice" >> "document,menu=export" >> >> and the following converter: >> >> \converter "xhtml" "odt lo" "pandoc -o $$o $$i" "" >> > How much better is this than simply exporting LyXHTML and then opening the > resulting file in > LibreOffice? Well - LibreOffice gives an error when trying to open the xhtml file, and I can't open it in my browser either (seems to be corrupt for this document?). Another document, produces an empty output when opening the xhml in LibreOffice. > > There's no reason we couldn't add this as a converter. File a bug to remind > me if you like. > I t'll add it top #6042 as Liviu pointed out. Would be great if pandoc converter could be added, as it seems to be quite robust in handling even corrupt xhtml files. Cheers, Rainer > Richard > - -- Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany) Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology Stellenbosch University South Africa Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44 Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98 Fax : +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44 Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44 email: rai...@krugs.de Skype: RMkrug -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+NFhoACgkQoYgNqgF2egqObQCcCsJmRnC8Udzc02mPbbZneODq zGIAn0cbjUXODB9r4DXgLTkdLNndMGgf =f0y3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Conversion to doc via pandoc
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Richard Heck wrote: > There's no reason we couldn't add this as a converter. File a bug to remind > me if you like. > I guess #6042 [1] serves for this purpose. Liviu [1] http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6042
Re: Conversion to doc via pandoc
On 04/16/2012 09:07 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I just discovered pandoc, and I use it to convert to odt format (and then in OpenOffice to doc). The conversion goes LyX -> LyXHTML -> odt I defined the following format: \format "odt lo" "odt" "Libreoffice writer" "" "libreoffice" "libreoffice" "document,menu=export" and the following converter: \converter "xhtml" "odt lo" "pandoc -o $$o $$i" "" How much better is this than simply exporting LyXHTML and then opening the resulting file in LibreOffice? There's no reason we couldn't add this as a converter. File a bug to remind me if you like. Richard
Conversion to doc via pandoc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I just discovered pandoc, and I use it to convert to odt format (and then in OpenOffice to doc). The conversion goes LyX -> LyXHTML -> odt I defined the following format: \format "odt lo" "odt" "Libreoffice writer" "" "libreoffice" "libreoffice" "document,menu=export" and the following converter: \converter "xhtml" "odt lo" "pandoc -o $$o $$i" "" The format is very nice to work with, and I had no luck with the normal mk4ht way, as it resulted in a corrupt odt document, while the pandoc route worked nicely. OK - tables and pictures need to be manually adjusted, but the text was exported very nicely. I tried to go LyX -> LaTeX -> odt, but the result was not as useful. Cheers, Rainer - -- Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany) Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology Stellenbosch University South Africa Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44 Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98 Fax : +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44 Fax (D):+49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44 email: rai...@krugs.de Skype: RMkrug -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+MGasACgkQoYgNqgF2egpL9wCfbZfmBs3qdzFxvhYzFLt2ivab IGoAnRjvjiBKr5sgyw2sCfTmLsU5H95i =ttIF -END PGP SIGNATURE-
