Re: Python (was Shortcuts under MacOs Sonoma)

2023-11-09 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 09.11.2023 um 11:24 schrieb Isaac Oscar Gariano :
> 
> Interestingly I've never had this problem on windows as LyX comes with a 
> python in it's installation directory.

Hi Isaac,

Python was an integral component of macOS for ages. Therefore no need to bundle 
it with LyX. In general is the distribution of 3rd party software inside the 
bundle debatable.

> Perhaps the MacOS version should do the same, or at the very least give a 
> very clear error message.

The new LyX version 2.4 has implemented this „feature“.

BR, Stephan

> It might be worth opening a bug report for this. (I've also had LyX tell me 
> it can't find the a LaTeX class, when I definitely had LaTeX installed 
> properly; I can't remember what the cause of it was though, probably my fault 
> for not building LyX properly).
> — Isaac Oscar Gariano​
> From: lyx-users  on behalf of Daniel CLEMENT 
> via lyx-users 
> Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2023 11:13 PM
> To: Dr Eberhard W Lisse 
> Cc: LyX 
> Subject: Re: Python (was Shortcuts under MacOs Sonoma)
>  
> Yes, I had seen this thread and I had reviewed it.
> 
> What I didn’t expect, was that the upgrade would suppress something!
> 
> I don’t know how Python was present before the upgrade (builtin?) However, I 
> have installed the Python3 pkg from the official Python website before I 
> could read your advice.
> 
> Let’s see if that persists across the next upgrades!
> 
> BR - Daniel
> 
> > Le 8 nov. 2023 à 19:16, Dr Eberhard W Lisse  a écrit :
> > 
> > This has been discussed here a number of times in the not so
> > distant past.
> > 
> > I think you need to install the X-Code command line tools to
> > get /usr/bin/python3 again but I use Homebrew's python and
> > that survives OS Upgrades.
> > 
> > greetings, el
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 07/11/2023 15:12, Daniel CLEMENT via lyx-users wrote:
> >> Thanks for your reply Isaac.
> >> 
> >> The user directory is: ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3/ 
> >> 
> >> That sounded correct. 
> >> 
> >> So I investigated a bit more on the Python side.  It was
> >> definitely a Python issue.
> >> 
> >> I still can hardly believe it, but it seems that the upgrade
> >> had completely stripped my system of any Python.  I
> >> (re)installed it from the official site, and all the LyX
> >> shortcuts got working again.  And the reconfigure function,
> >> too.
> >> 
> >> So, problem solved for now. BR, Daniel
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Re: Python (was Shortcuts under MacOs Sonoma)

2023-11-09 Thread Isaac Oscar Gariano
Interestingly I've never had this problem on windows as LyX comes with a python 
in it's installation directory. Perhaps the MacOS version should do the same, 
or at the very least give a very clear error message.  It might be worth 
opening a bug report for this. (I've also had LyX tell me it can't find the a 
LaTeX class, when I definitely had LaTeX installed properly; I can't remember 
what the cause of it was though, probably my fault for not building LyX 
properly).
— Isaac Oscar Gariano​

From: lyx-users  on behalf of Daniel CLEMENT 
via lyx-users 
Sent: Thursday, 9 November 2023 11:13 PM
To: Dr Eberhard W Lisse 
Cc: LyX 
Subject: Re: Python (was Shortcuts under MacOs Sonoma)

Yes, I had seen this thread and I had reviewed it.

What I didn’t expect, was that the upgrade would suppress something!

I don’t know how Python was present before the upgrade (builtin?) However, I 
have installed the Python3 pkg from the official Python website before I could 
read your advice.

Let’s see if that persists across the next upgrades!

BR - Daniel

> Le 8 nov. 2023 à 19:16, Dr Eberhard W Lisse  a écrit :
>
> This has been discussed here a number of times in the not so
> distant past.
>
> I think you need to install the X-Code command line tools to
> get /usr/bin/python3 again but I use Homebrew's python and
> that survives OS Upgrades.
>
> greetings, el
>
>
>
> On 07/11/2023 15:12, Daniel CLEMENT via lyx-users wrote:
>> Thanks for your reply Isaac.
>>
>> The user directory is: ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3/
>>
>> That sounded correct.
>>
>> So I investigated a bit more on the Python side.  It was
>> definitely a Python issue.
>>
>> I still can hardly believe it, but it seems that the upgrade
>> had completely stripped my system of any Python.  I
>> (re)installed it from the official site, and all the LyX
>> shortcuts got working again.  And the reconfigure function,
>> too.
>>
>> So, problem solved for now. BR, Daniel
> [...]
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Re: Python (was Shortcuts under MacOs Sonoma)

2023-11-09 Thread Daniel CLEMENT via lyx-users
Yes, I had seen this thread and I had reviewed it.

What I didn’t expect, was that the upgrade would suppress something!

I don’t know how Python was present before the upgrade (builtin?) However, I 
have installed the Python3 pkg from the official Python website before I could 
read your advice.

Let’s see if that persists across the next upgrades!

BR - Daniel

> Le 8 nov. 2023 à 19:16, Dr Eberhard W Lisse  a écrit :
> 
> This has been discussed here a number of times in the not so
> distant past.
> 
> I think you need to install the X-Code command line tools to
> get /usr/bin/python3 again but I use Homebrew's python and
> that survives OS Upgrades.
> 
> greetings, el
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/11/2023 15:12, Daniel CLEMENT via lyx-users wrote:
>> Thanks for your reply Isaac.
>> 
>> The user directory is: ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3/ 
>> 
>> That sounded correct. 
>> 
>> So I investigated a bit more on the Python side.  It was
>> definitely a Python issue.
>> 
>> I still can hardly believe it, but it seems that the upgrade
>> had completely stripped my system of any Python.  I
>> (re)installed it from the official site, and all the LyX
>> shortcuts got working again.  And the reconfigure function,
>> too.
>> 
>> So, problem solved for now. BR, Daniel
> [...]
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Python (was Shortcuts under MacOs Sonoma)

2023-11-08 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
This has been discussed here a number of times in the not so
distant past.

I think you need to install the X-Code command line tools to
get /usr/bin/python3 again but I use Homebrew's python and
that survives OS Upgrades.

greetings, el



On 07/11/2023 15:12, Daniel CLEMENT via lyx-users wrote:
> Thanks for your reply Isaac.
> 
> The user directory is: ~/Library/Application Support/LyX-2.3/ 
> 
> That sounded correct. 
> 
> So I investigated a bit more on the Python side.  It was
> definitely a Python issue.
> 
> I still can hardly believe it, but it seems that the upgrade
> had completely stripped my system of any Python.  I
> (re)installed it from the official site, and all the LyX
> shortcuts got working again.  And the reconfigure function,
> too.
> 
> So, problem solved for now. BR, Daniel
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