Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-10 Thread Alan Tyree
And my grandfather said "Not one of them ever dies. " On Sun, 10 Oct 2021, 7:06 pm Steve Litt, wrote: > Alan Tyree said on Sun, 10 Oct 2021 08:06:24 +1100 > > >Oh, Steve, how I wish that were true! > > > >What really happens is that they see a word they would like to > >emphasise, so they use

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-10 Thread Steve Litt
Alan Tyree said on Sun, 10 Oct 2021 08:06:24 +1100 >Oh, Steve, how I wish that were true! > >What really happens is that they see a word they would like to >emphasise, so they use direct formatting to do it. No need to use a >style when you only want to change one word, right? Then another

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-09 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sun, 10 Oct 2021, Alan Tyree wrote: Pretty soon you have 15 different fonts on every page, because if you give these people 15 fonts, they will use them all. Alan, In the 1980s when desktop page layout applications came out for DOS many people bought them and advertised themselves as

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-09 Thread Alan Tyree
Oh, Steve, how I wish that were true! What really happens is that they see a word they would like to emphasise, so they use direct formatting to do it. No need to use a style when you only want to change one word, right? Then another word. Then a paragraph. And this one page should be different

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-09 Thread Steve Litt
Alan Tyree said on Fri, 8 Oct 2021 12:44:22 +1100 >I know that this is preaching to the choir here, but I wondered if >anyone had a strategy that convinced others to work with styles. Have them write a book without styles, then show them what styles do for them, and they'll use styles for the

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-08 Thread John White
On Friday, October 8, 2021 12:14:12 AM PDT Charlie wrote: > Wolfgang Engelmann informed me regarding: Re: LibreOffice to > LyX on Fri, 8 Oct 2021 08:18:55 +0200 > > > > Everybody has Word and how difficult can it be? > > > > not me > &

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-08 Thread Charlie
Wolfgang Engelmann informed me regarding: Re: LibreOffice to LyX on Fri, 8 Oct 2021 08:18:55 +0200 > > Everybody has Word and how difficult can it be? > not me > Wolfgang Replied thus: Or me. What is it? Charlie East Gippsland Wildlife Re

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-08 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am 08.10.21 um 07:38 schrieb Dr Eberhard Lisse: Everybody has Word and how difficult can it be? not me Wolfgang Indeed it is very easy to write poorly looking documents in (Word and) LibreOffice. LaTeX enforces a lot of things, and this one of the reasons why you really have to try hard

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-07 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Everybody has Word and how difficult can it be? Indeed it is very easy to write poorly looking documents in (Word and) LibreOffice. LaTeX enforces a lot of things, and this one of the reasons why you really have to try hard to write poorly looking documents, though I have seen many determined

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-07 Thread Alan Tyree
Good point about systems allowing direct formatting Virgil. It should be prohibited. I didn't know that AbiWord had the lockdown feature ("lockdown" being the trendy word in Oz these days!), but it is a good idea. AbiWord is still available, the latest release for Linux was in July of this year.

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-07 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 10/7/2021 9:44 PM, Alan Tyree wrote: Why is it so hard to get people to use styles? I worked recently with a friend to convert his Word document into an ePub. My advice is don't ever, ever do this! Even though I had advocated the use of styles, he had spent hours using direct formatting.

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-07 Thread Alan Tyree
Why is it so hard to get people to use styles? I worked recently with a friend to convert his Word document into an ePub. My advice is don't ever, ever do this! Even though I had advocated the use of styles, he had spent hours using direct formatting. And it is not just amateurs. I write for a

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-07 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 10/7/2021 2:50 PM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: Virgil, how could that work in ANY program ("dorward" compatibility)? But it's Open Source, just pull the latest version once out of beta. No doubt that is an easy solution with FOSS. But I recall a time when I once upgraded LyX on my Linux

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 07/10/2021 à 14:05, Virgil Arrington a écrit : I learned that, to be truly compatible, I had to not only use the same program as my colleague, but also the same version. This is even true with different versions of LyX. Every new release seems to change the source file format just enough

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-07 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Virgil, how could that work in ANY program ("dorward" compatibility)? But it's Open Source, just pull the latest version once out of beta. The next one is rumored to support DocBook so you can get inti evenmore trouble :-)-O el On 2021-10-07 14:05 , Virgil Arrington wrote: [...] This is

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-07 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 10/6/2021 11:14 PM, Steve Litt wrote: After importing my 300 page book from MS Word to LibreOffice, I looked extensively in the menu system, in the help docs, and on the Internet to resolve my magically changing styles problem, all to no avail. LibreOffice is just fine if you don't use

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-06 Thread Saša Janiška
On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 23:14:10 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: Hello from Croatia and thank you for very informative and inspiring thread? > LibreOffice is just fine if you don't use styles, but who would not > use styles when working with a large document? > > Working with LibreOffice reminds me of

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-06 Thread Steve Litt
Virgil Arrington said on Tue, 5 Oct 2021 13:24:04 + > LibreOffice makes learning new things much >easier than LyX/LaTeX. Generally speaking, every LO function can be >found by exploring its extensive menus and/or toolbars. Like a >multiple choice test, the right answer is somewhere on the

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-06 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 10/5/2021 6:07 PM, Charlie wrote: Nor can I say sticking with all the eggs in one program basket is necessarily a good thing. But someone once said, "Linux, the lifetime learning experience" In my autumn years; believe this to be correct, and find it keeps my mind active. I began using

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-06 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Charlie, you are welcome. I have 2 years and 3 months on the clock :-) and I am probably going to start learning Python then, when I will not need 30 years worth of perl scripts any longer for day-to-day :-)-O el On 06/10/2021 00:07, Charlie wrote: [...] I would like to thank you

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-06 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
On 05/10/2021 22:51, Virgil Arrington wrote: On 10/5/2021 2:45 PM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: [...] Actually constant misunderimprovements are one of the mistakes one often makes in presentations. I suspect you're right, but I just can't leave things alone. Once of my CPD/CME presentations

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-05 Thread Charlie
Virgil Arrington informed me regarding: Re: LibreOffice to LyX on Tue, 5 Oct 2021 16:51:44 -0400 > On 10/5/2021 2:45 PM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: > > Virgil, > > > > I have shortened and reformatted slightly for ease of reference. > > > > Actua

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-05 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Virgil, I have shortened and reformatted slightly for ease of reference. On 2021-10-05 15:24 , Virgil Arrington wrote: [...] Unlike our good Dr. E.L., I can't leave my slide designs alone. [...] Actually constant misunderimprovements are one of the mistakes one often makes in

RE: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-05 Thread Virgil Arrington
On October 4, Charlie wrote: > However, if I read this correctly Beamer is fine, even good. > However, your problem stated above, seems to be that you have to > do a lot of searching, reading and learning to get it to do > more than what is standard and easy? > Isn't that what you have to do if

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-04 Thread Charlie
Virgil Arrington informed me regarding: RE: LibreOffice to LyX on Mon, 4 Oct 2021 12:55:34 + > But, I usually find myself getting very frustrated when I want to > change some design detail. It often requires a Google search to learn > the right LaTeX command t

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-04 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Steve, I do all my slides in Beamer. I have settled on a modified metropolis theme and that works very well and I haven't changed that in years years. I am a fan of 10-20-20 and bullet points and do my tables and graphs usually with knitR. If you have a clean pandoc template you can

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-04 Thread Steve Litt
Virgil Arrington said on Mon, 4 Oct 2021 12:55:34 + >On the flip side, I have had to learn that LO Impress doesn’t like >having slide formats changed *after* the presentation substance has >been composed. While my styles haven’t suddenly changed on me, I have >learned that changes made to

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-04 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 12:55:34PM +, Virgil Arrington wrote: > On October 3, Steve Litt (on the LyX User > List) wrote: > > > Several times, on long wordprocessing documents, I personally have had > > LibreOffice writer styles spontaneously change. At one

RE: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-04 Thread Virgil Arrington
On October 3, Steve Litt (on the LyX User List) wrote: > Several times, on long wordprocessing documents, I personally have had > LibreOffice writer styles spontaneously change. At one point my > personal problem with LibreOffice style prevented me from

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-04 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
It would probably easier to translate from LyX/LaTeX to LibreOffice/Word/RTF, but I have no idea (and of course no interest whatsoever) to find out (how to template the front page and page numbering. But, it is probably not worth the effort to even try :-)-O there must be gazillions of ugly Word

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-04 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
This list should be kept free from responses such as the one below because for many people they just do not care. Abstain from trying to continue stupid flame wars. el On 01/10/2021 19:07, Tobias Hilbricht wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 30.09.2021, 21:38 -0400 schrieb Steve Litt: [...] This

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-03 Thread John White
We do everything in lyx, even one page letters, except that some courts require that submitted orders be in doc format (in case the judge wants to edit). For those docs we use libreoffice. John On Sunday, October 3, 2021 3:31:47 PM PDT Steve Litt wrote: > Tobias Hilbricht said on Fri, 01

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-03 Thread Steve Litt
Tobias Hilbricht said on Fri, 01 Oct 2021 19:07:02 +0200 >Am Donnerstag, den 30.09.2021, 21:38 -0400 schrieb Steve Litt: >> >> converting to LyX, the answer is don't. LibreOffice is a bug ridden >> program that tries to be all things to all people and fails >> miserably. >> You need a 170 IQ and

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-01 Thread Tobias Hilbricht
Am Donnerstag, den 30.09.2021, 21:38 -0400 schrieb Steve Litt: > > converting to LyX, the answer is don't. LibreOffice is a bug ridden > program that tries to be all things to all people and fails > miserably. > You need a 170 IQ and a doctorate to be able to deal with the quirky, > often

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-01 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
To go into even more detail: Look on CTAN for letterhead templates, of which they are galore. Then refine to those that do this in KomaScript and find one that is as close to your ideas as possible. This (probably a letter class options file *.LCO, the name of which you then add to LyX's

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-09-30 Thread Steve Litt
Osman Kemal Kadiroğlu said on Thu, 30 Sep 2021 08:21:46 + >Hi, > >I am a bit inexperienced LyX user. I have a letter format with a >header and a graphical signature created with LibreOffice. How can I >convert it to a LyX letter template? > >Best regards > >Osman Kemal Kadiroğlu If you're

Re: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-09-30 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
You can't. Ad you should not :-)-O You need to create the header manually with KomaScript, which has a gazillion possibilities, and then you can save the signature image and add that image to the signature field. el On 30/09/2021 10:21, Osman Kemal Kadiroğlu wrote: Hi, I am a bit