Re: A slash o ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-04 Thread ehud.kap...@gmail.com
When I type Bro{\o}sted I get the right character. The {..} is ERT, of 
course.


On 02/03/2011 03:12 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Also sprach Kenward Vaughan:

The space worked fine.  Should that always be done with ERT?

To terminate a command, if no other termination is done. In your case, LaTeX
thought you meant the command \onsted (which could very well be meant), and
failed, because no such command existed. If another command follows (Br\o\ss),
not termination is needed. You can also terminate by braces (Br{\o}nsted or
Br\o{}nsted), but this affects the kerning, so the space is suggested.

Jürgen


--
Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.
Jules and Doris Stein /Research to Prevent Blindness /Professor
*Director*, Center of Excellence for /Computational  System neuroscience,/
The Friedman Brain Institute, MSSM
*Director*, The laboratory of /Visual  Computational Neuroscience/
Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical  Structural Biology
The Mount Sinai School of Medicine
One Gustave Levy Place
New York, NY, 10029


Re: A slash o ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:
 When I type Bro{\o}sted I get the right character. The {..} is ERT, of 
 course.

To see what I mean when I say the braces affect the kerning, compare

1. V\AA V

2. V\AA{}V

3. V{\AA}V

You will see that the kerning is only good in the first case. In the second 
case, the Å and the second V are badly kerned, in the third case, all three 
characters are badly kerned.

Jürgen


Re: A slash o ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-04 Thread ehud.kap...@gmail.com
When I type Bro{\o}sted I get the right character. The {..} is ERT, of 
course.


On 02/03/2011 03:12 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Also sprach Kenward Vaughan:

The space worked fine.  Should that always be done with ERT?

To terminate a command, if no other termination is done. In your case, LaTeX
thought you meant the command \onsted (which could very well be meant), and
failed, because no such command existed. If another command follows (Br\o\ss),
not termination is needed. You can also terminate by braces (Br{\o}nsted or
Br\o{}nsted), but this affects the kerning, so the space is suggested.

Jürgen


--
Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.
Jules and Doris Stein /Research to Prevent Blindness /Professor
*Director*, Center of Excellence for /Computational  System neuroscience,/
The Friedman Brain Institute, MSSM
*Director*, The laboratory of /Visual  Computational Neuroscience/
Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical  Structural Biology
The Mount Sinai School of Medicine
One Gustave Levy Place
New York, NY, 10029


Re: A slash o ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:
 When I type Bro{\o}sted I get the right character. The {..} is ERT, of 
 course.

To see what I mean when I say the braces affect the kerning, compare

1. V\AA V

2. V\AA{}V

3. V{\AA}V

You will see that the kerning is only good in the first case. In the second 
case, the Å and the second V are badly kerned, in the third case, all three 
characters are badly kerned.

Jürgen


Re: A "slash o" ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-04 Thread ehud.kap...@gmail.com
When I type Bro{\o}sted I get the right character. The {..} is ERT, of 
course.


On 02/03/2011 03:12 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Also sprach Kenward Vaughan:

The space worked fine.  Should that always be done with ERT?

To terminate a command, if no other termination is done. In your case, LaTeX
thought you meant the command \onsted (which could very well be meant), and
failed, because no such command existed. If another command follows (Br\o\ss),
not termination is needed. You can also terminate by braces (Br{\o}nsted or
Br\o{}nsted), but this affects the kerning, so the space is suggested.

Jürgen


--
Ehud Kaplan, Ph.D.
Jules and Doris Stein /Research to Prevent Blindness /Professor
*Director*, Center of Excellence for /Computational & System neuroscience,/
The Friedman Brain Institute, MSSM
*Director*, The laboratory of /Visual & Computational Neuroscience/
Depts. of Neuroscience, Ophthalmology, Chemical & Structural Biology
The Mount Sinai School of Medicine
One Gustave Levy Place
New York, NY, 10029


Re: A "slash o" ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-04 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
ehud.kap...@gmail.com wrote:
> When I type Bro{\o}sted I get the right character. The {..} is ERT, of 
> course.

To see what I mean when I say the braces affect the kerning, compare

1. V\AA V

2. V\AA{}V

3. V{\AA}V

You will see that the kerning is only good in the first case. In the second 
case, the Å and the second V are badly kerned, in the third case, all three 
characters are badly kerned.

Jürgen


Re: A slash o ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Also sprach Kenward Vaughan:
 The space worked fine.  Should that always be done with ERT?

To terminate a command, if no other termination is done. In your case, LaTeX 
thought you meant the command \onsted (which could very well be meant), and 
failed, because no such command existed. If another command follows (Br\o\ss), 
not termination is needed. You can also terminate by braces (Br{\o}nsted or 
Br\o{}nsted), but this affects the kerning, so the space is suggested.

Jürgen


Re: A slash o ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-03 Thread Julien Rioux

On 03/02/2011 3:12 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Also sprach Kenward Vaughan:

The space worked fine.  Should that always be done with ERT?


To terminate a command, if no other termination is done. In your case, LaTeX
thought you meant the command \onsted (which could very well be meant), and
failed, because no such command existed. If another command follows (Br\o\ss),
not termination is needed. You can also terminate by braces (Br{\o}nsted or
Br\o{}nsted), but this affects the kerning, so the space is suggested.

Jürgen



I'm curious... how does {} affect the kerning?
Is one of {\o} or \o{} preferable?

The space is problematic when processed by bibtex:
J. N. Br\o nsted will become nsted, J. N. B.

--
Julien



Re: A slash o ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Julien Rioux wrote:
 I'm curious... how does {} affect the kerning?

Because TeX does not treat the two characters as a pair for proper kerning.

 Is one of {\o} or \o{} preferable?

No.

 The space is problematic when processed by bibtex:
 J. N. Br\o nsted will become nsted, J. N. B.

Try {Br\o nsted}

Jürgen


Re: A slash o ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Also sprach Kenward Vaughan:
 The space worked fine.  Should that always be done with ERT?

To terminate a command, if no other termination is done. In your case, LaTeX 
thought you meant the command \onsted (which could very well be meant), and 
failed, because no such command existed. If another command follows (Br\o\ss), 
not termination is needed. You can also terminate by braces (Br{\o}nsted or 
Br\o{}nsted), but this affects the kerning, so the space is suggested.

Jürgen


Re: A slash o ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-03 Thread Julien Rioux

On 03/02/2011 3:12 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Also sprach Kenward Vaughan:

The space worked fine.  Should that always be done with ERT?


To terminate a command, if no other termination is done. In your case, LaTeX
thought you meant the command \onsted (which could very well be meant), and
failed, because no such command existed. If another command follows (Br\o\ss),
not termination is needed. You can also terminate by braces (Br{\o}nsted or
Br\o{}nsted), but this affects the kerning, so the space is suggested.

Jürgen



I'm curious... how does {} affect the kerning?
Is one of {\o} or \o{} preferable?

The space is problematic when processed by bibtex:
J. N. Br\o nsted will become nsted, J. N. B.

--
Julien



Re: A slash o ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Julien Rioux wrote:
 I'm curious... how does {} affect the kerning?

Because TeX does not treat the two characters as a pair for proper kerning.

 Is one of {\o} or \o{} preferable?

No.

 The space is problematic when processed by bibtex:
 J. N. Br\o nsted will become nsted, J. N. B.

Try {Br\o nsted}

Jürgen


Re: A "slash o" ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Also sprach Kenward Vaughan:
> The space worked fine.  Should that always be done with ERT?

To terminate a command, if no other termination is done. In your case, LaTeX 
thought you meant the command \onsted (which could very well be meant), and 
failed, because no such command existed. If another command follows (Br\o\ss), 
not termination is needed. You can also terminate by braces (Br{\o}nsted or 
Br\o{}nsted), but this affects the kerning, so the space is suggested.

Jürgen


Re: A "slash o" ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-03 Thread Julien Rioux

On 03/02/2011 3:12 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Also sprach Kenward Vaughan:

The space worked fine.  Should that always be done with ERT?


To terminate a command, if no other termination is done. In your case, LaTeX
thought you meant the command \onsted (which could very well be meant), and
failed, because no such command existed. If another command follows (Br\o\ss),
not termination is needed. You can also terminate by braces (Br{\o}nsted or
Br\o{}nsted), but this affects the kerning, so the space is suggested.

Jürgen



I'm curious... how does {} affect the kerning?
Is one of {\o} or \o{} preferable?

The space is problematic when processed by bibtex:
"J. N. Br\o nsted" will become "nsted, J. N. B."

--
Julien



Re: A "slash o" ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Julien Rioux wrote:
> I'm curious... how does {} affect the kerning?

Because TeX does not treat the two characters as a pair for proper kerning.

> Is one of {\o} or \o{} preferable?

No.

> The space is problematic when processed by bibtex:
> "J. N. Br\o nsted" will become "nsted, J. N. B."

Try {Br\o nsted}

Jürgen


Re: A slash o ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Kenward Vaughan wrote:
 Being a perfectionist, I'd love to get the name Bronsted properly
 spelled, with a slash through the o.  Using LyX, I've inserted \o in
 ERT, but get an undefined control sequence error:
 
 
  ...Define a \inputencoding{latin1}{Br\onsted
   }\inputencoding{latin9}-L
 owry

You need to terminate the macro by a space, i.e.: Br\o nsted. Or insert the 
real character via Insert  Special Characters  Symbols.

Jürgen


Re: A slash o ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Kenward Vaughan wrote:
 Being a perfectionist, I'd love to get the name Bronsted properly
 spelled, with a slash through the o.  Using LyX, I've inserted \o in
 ERT, but get an undefined control sequence error:
 
 
  ...Define a \inputencoding{latin1}{Br\onsted
   }\inputencoding{latin9}-L
 owry

You need to terminate the macro by a space, i.e.: Br\o nsted. Or insert the 
real character via Insert  Special Characters  Symbols.

Jürgen


Re: A "slash o" ?? Cannot get it...

2011-02-02 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Kenward Vaughan wrote:
> Being a perfectionist, I'd love to get the name Bronsted properly
> spelled, with a slash through the o.  Using LyX, I've inserted "\o" in
> ERT, but get an undefined control sequence error:
> 
> 
>  ...Define a \inputencoding{latin1}{Br\onsted
>   }\inputencoding{latin9}-L
> owry

You need to terminate the macro by a space, i.e.: Br\o nsted. Or insert the 
real character via Insert > Special Characters > Symbols.

Jürgen